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So sick of the f@#k ABC nonsense. F@#k Tim Allen. The show got cancelled in the first place because it was too expensive to keep making and Timbo refused to take a pay cut to keep his darling on the air or give the other actors a bump in pay. It wasn't cancelled cause of some right wing conspiracy. It came down to $$$ as always. Why do you think Eve and Ed are part time now? Why do you think OG Mandy left? If anyone really thinks it's because she had a scheduling conflict then they're as gullible as can be. But they had no problem securing Meathead and wife cause Timbo desperately wants this show to be All in the Family part 2. And God forbid Allen's good buddy Jay Leno not get his guest appearance fee. The character is SOOOO necessary and funny too. BTW I'm pretty sure it's the same staff, thus same writers. No one is sabotaging the show except Allen's greed. PS: If I remember correctly Allen was pissed at JTT when he left Home Improvement and they didn't talk for years. That's why JTT wasn't in that series finale.

I don't know who the bigger fool is....Cara Maria for pulling the poor me victim card on yet another season or the gullible fans who are buying it. Yes, Abe is an abuser. The same Abe who was engaged to bad ass Coral is an abuser. The same guy Coral is now tweeting is a great guy is physically abusive. The same Abe who CM is begging to get back together with while Abe is avoiding her like the plague is abusive. Too funny. Some people would believe the moon is made of cheese if said with enough conviction. How everyone can't see through CM at this point is astonishing. Multiple cast members of practically every season she's been on have said CM is the fake-ist person there. The only sorta friend she has is Laurel. If there is that much smoke, something is getting torched. EDIT: Before anyone asks: The engagement story comes from a youtube clip of a interview given years ago by Coral. When the interviewer asked how serious the relationship with Abe was she said something like, "knee dropping; ring popping." I took that to mean engaged.

What's the criteria for believing rumors online? It certainly isn't proof. These sources have offered not a shred of proof when they easily could. JerseyNurse couldn't post a pic of herself with Sean but she knows him and his mindset well enough to comment on his views on women, why he took his promotion, what went down with his baby, etc...especially now that she works elsewhere and has no fear of retribution of any kind? Let's also completely ignore the fact that each "insider" never gave a shred of proof (Which should be easy as pie in this day and age.) and ALSO got at least a few things wrong each. No one really knows what happened. Production is quiet and enjoying the attention, the girls are sticking together but they are friends repeating what they've told each other so they aren't that reliable. According to Teefus, 1 of them is the source of ALL these rumors. Meanwhile, the guys are keeping silent. The thing I find hilarious is that the NYC LAX "source" (Who went on to delete their account. Shocker.) said the guys were told by the producers to just go with it and not worry too much about the marriage thing. They were sold on opportunity and money. Let's say all the rumors are true for a minute. The guys were most likely under the impression the women were sold the show in the same way. The only thing Sean's critics have is the moving bit and the DUI which happened years ago in Florida. How that blew up into a probation violation is beyond me.

I don't see where you get that from. If Sean is only in it for sex why not hit the layup he has right in front of him. He doesn't even try with Davina, to the point that some think he's a closeted gay man. There are so many theories on this guy it's nuts. He's gay. No, he's axsexual. No, he's a playboy sexaholic. What the hell? I missed that part. She really does think she's better than others, doesn't she? Oh, Davina. We've seen your crazy twitter meltdowns. You're really not.

She knew all this on day 1? BS. You could make this argument if she was open to moving at first then got to know him and pulled back, but she didn't. She was stuck in cement from the jump. And yes he said he'd move but I doubt he considered said move would be 2+ hours away and his wife would be completely unreasonable at meeting him halfway. You are right about the temporary thing though. They only rented that apartment for the 6 weeks. Davina's plan was to move them into her real apartment and have Sean commute 4+ hours a day while working 12-16 hours. That is just insane. Your premise goes both ways BTW. If she wanted the marriage to work the bare minimum she could have done was offer to at least TALK about moving closer to NJ. She wouldn't even give him lip service. She was a brick wall on the subject. She wanted a husband who would move in to her apartment giving up his entire life and basically adopting hers. She wanted a pet not a husband. Get a cat, girl. Everyone else has one. I really think living on the UES is some kind of status symbol for her she is desperately clinging to. It probably was at the time. It took like 2 years to happen after all. How exactly did she act like someone who wants to be in a marriage? Name some sacrifices she made for the relationship. Hell, name 1. He moves for her and she makes the entire transition a nightmare for him. Granted he didn't handle it well at first but what stopped her from consoling him through his initial unease thus strengthening their bond? She expected an instant fairy tale husband that fell to his knees to please her every desire but wound up with a flawed person who has faults and desires of his own and she hated that. This was supposed to be about her, her, her. A husband who has his own issues. How weak (Her words.). She's way too old for that kind of nonsense. Actually forget the cat and get a dog. She's headed down the road to weird cat lady at the end of the block already. Time is not on her side.....especially, if she wants kids.

Sean isn't Doug's friend. Sean's brother is. Other than over children, marriages never work with dealbreakers involved.

Now that I think about it, I think you're right. They spent Christmas in NJ cause he had to work right before X-Mas. Was this before they got the temp apartment? I think it was. I don't think after they got the apartment she ever returned to NJ. Whatever. I'm over them. I believe that Sean got railroaded about a lot of this stuff but there is no way to verify or prove anything 1 way or the other. Meanwhile Davina and her buddy Chris are still twittering garbage, like compairing Sean to Caitlyn Jenner. So sick. So pathetic. So sad.

*Stacked his shifts so he works 3 16 hour days instead of 4 12 hours to spend an extra day in Manhattan with the wife. *Moved 2 hours plus away from his family. *Moved 2 hours plus away from his friends. (How messed up is it that the first time they visit Sean's "life" it is to go bowling on week 6 at the "Experts" recommending? And apparently that simple act so reinvigorated Sean that Davina immediately noticed a huge change in his demeanor) *Did all the commuting back and forth the whole 6 weeks. Why couldn't they spend 1 freaking night at his place in NJ and Davina commute to work? She can't even do 1 commute to make things easier on this guy over the course of 6 weeks? Really? Someone mentioned Davina owned her apartment, well he owned his house in NJ. Why does her stuff trump his? I also agree with the poster who said she knew of the promotion. She wasn't shocked, she was mad he was bringing it up. Anyway both are toxic together and will most likely divorce but they had huge potential if he had tried a little harder and she had tried....well at all. He's overcompensating. He doesn't want full control BUT she was so overbearing at first he reached too far. He's said he likes how she asserts herself at times he just wants to lead now and again too. What he wants is a 50/50 give and take, he just doesn't realize it fully yet. If they stay together I imagine he'll take full lead for a bit, realize that don't work either and then they will have to compromise somewhere in the middle. Maybe 50/50, 60/40...something like that.

But that's just your feelings on the matter....your opinion. I'm talking cold hard facts. We don't know what was in his heart when he compromised, BUT HE DID IT. SHE REFUSED. I'm taking all the emotion and opinion out of it and just looking at the facts as we know them because at the end of the day that is the only truth we really know. He tried, admitted his faults and she refused to do either everytime. Then she goes on a tirade on twitter blaming him for everything and taking no blame herself. Those are the facts that we've seen. Granted they were edited and pieced together on the show but they can't make a person look like a "villain" if said person doesn't give them ample footage to do so. She wanted him to do all the compromising while she did none on day 1. She had no clue if she'd love him then. Yeah, I know he said he was open to moving but a 4+ hour commute when he effects people's lives is a totally different ball game. Maybe he picked up on her refusal to budge on all things and then started going through the motions from there. BTW she could have clued him in to the fact she bought an apartment right before filming started that would tie them in as a couple to the UES but she didn't until after he said I do, and they had their honey moon. Did she plan on having that in her back pocket to use as an excuse if things failed? We'll never know. We do know that the UES was more important to her than her husband. She wouldn't even entertain the idea of moving. That never works in a marriage. If you aren't willing to go 50/50 on all things you're just asking for trouble. And she found it. Her friends joking about how she rarely gets 2nd dates in the opener was telling. Also, a blank LinkedIn page means squat. My friend's bro-in-law is a lawyer. The guy practically catalogued his rise from graduating high school to college, then law school on facebook but the second he got a good job he never updated his online profiles again. That doesn't make him a fake, he just has other more important uses of his time. As for the people who know him talking trash: A: I'd bet anything it's just one person probably with a grudge against the guy (Promotion rival?). B: Not once has any of these "people" proven their claims which in this digital age would be easy as pie to do. If you knew someone well enough to know all their faults to a T then you should have no trouble proving you know them. It's common sense. I could make 10 different profiles claiming I knew Ryan D and that he was a spouse beater, but that doesn't automatically make it true and should be taken with a huge grain of salt by all who read it. Why are you so sure these people are telling the truth when they never backed it up with any kind of facts? Why are so many willing to jump off the deep end into conspiracy land based on smoke and mirrors? Hell, maybe you're right about him but there is no real proof other than hunches. I'll stick to the facts we can ALL see and hear ourselves.

So? He admitted that and apologized for it. And as my old pappy used to say, "What has that got to do with the here and now?" He's compromised everytime and hse has yet to offer much less compromise something of her own. You can debate how hard Sean tried, but he tried. She never did. If she is set in her ways and refuses to budge on anything she'll never survive a relationship much less a marriage. maybe that's why her own friends said she can never make it to a second date in the show opener. Marriage is give and take, not take, take then whine about it. As for the promotion, it was a 2 year deal that started before he got involved with the show and he only got the offer after the show started according to Dr C. Although I'm sure there will be some out there who thinks the doctor is putting his rep on the line to cover for a Sean lie. Because that makes perfect sense. You're probably right about him saving this as a way out the past few weeks but I can't blame him for that at this point. Who wants to live their life with someone who demands everything but gives you nothing in return then complains about it? Her reactions on twitter shows what kind of person she is, live and edit free. If that is what she is comfortable showing all of us, imagine what she's hiding.

And it's not like her job could impact a person's well being in real time or anything. She's a glorified drug pusher. Excuse me. Pharma rep. :roll eyes here: She could move to the west side and save a ton of drama and commute time for Sean but she won't. It's like she defines her success by living on the UES.

WTF is Fox thinking? No Bauer, no buys.

lol Exactly. Thank you. I thought I was all alone on this island. Maybe he is trying to avoid conflict to look good on TV. He works in an ER for cripes sake. His reputation is essential in that field. Would you want your ER nurse to be known in a poor light from a reality tv show? I can't for the life of me understand why Davina is posting half the stuff she is on twitter. Did she retire recently or something? What doctor is gonna listen to a word she says when she's shown her inner crazy to everyone? I have no doubt she'll experience work related issues over this. Maybe she already has. Someone told her boy Chris to go silent and private real fast when the $#*! hit the fan last week. As for avoiding the conversation of moving, Davina has firmly said no to any and all compromises regarding leaving the UES. What's to talk about? You can't negotiate with someone who refuses to give an inch. So he tried moving (2 hours each way from his job/friends/family) and it didn't work out. I've personally known people who've moved for work related reasons to other states and they still are having trouble adjusting 3 and 4 YEARS later. He had 6 weeks. You can doubt how hard he tried, or for how long but I don't see how you doubt him on actually trying period, and/or being the only 1 in the relationship who was even willing to try to begin with. I just don't see how that is in dispute. I just can't fault the guy over the location stuff when he is dealing with patients lives and she could have moved anywhere in the world for the 6 weeks the show filmed. Her real apartment was being fixed up during this time. She was gonna have to get a temp apartment anyway so why did it have to be in the UES? 6 weeks living in NJ, or even half way while he dealt with people's lives while they get to know each other seems like common sense to me. Then after 6 weeks decide the living arrangements. Even if things went perfect those 6 weeks there is no guarantee they would have stayed together. Look at Ryan R and Jac. They bonded the most yet I doubt anyone would lay hard currency on them staying married at this point cause you just don't know.

Not to single you out but what's the reason for hating/distrusting him as much as some on the internet do? No one here knows him and yet he's accused of lying about his job and promotion (Which he didn't even tell us about to begin with. Dr. C did), he's being called things like a womanizer/liar/psychopath. Some of you act like Sean spends his free time perfecting liquid kryptonite so he can kill Superman. Everyone is so sure they got this guy pegged cause some "coworker" on another board "exposed him" but conveniently forget that coworker ran off never to be seen again the second people started questioning the story. Yet they still get all the trust and Sean is automatically the psychopath/womanizer/celebrity wannabe. Why? Cause he talks funny? I really don't get the reaction he evokes. I'll will say one thing for Sean though, he brings out the crazy in whoever knows/speaks of him. I thought Davina was in need of that midnight train to therapy-ville until I read some of his detractors online. Get in line kiddo. And the sad thing is the only proof they provide is their feelings. Not what they've seen on the show or via SM with their own eyes, just a general feeling they get. So, what if your feelings are wrong? How are you gonna feel then if Sean isn't this devil incarnate? I've always judged people by what I see and heard FROM THEM, not on hearsay. Judging a book by its cover never works out well IMO. While Sean may be off, he's a far cry from some manipulative psycho yet to hear some tell it you'd think he was this evil master mind who's been playing Davina since the honeymoon. What am I missing here? Am I the crazy one? I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe or something. Wow. Didn't know this. I've used the word "female" plenty in the past though not to dehumanize anyone. Thanks for the this. I never even thought about someone taking the word that way before. Lesson learned.

I'm really trying to see your point there but I just can't. She's done NOTHING to make that marriage work. NOTHING. Please list some ways she's compromised for her marriage. She hasn't Not 1 single sacrifice. Meanwhile, Sean moved 2 hours away from his life/friends/family/job and has stacked his shifts according to both Davina and Sean to spend more time with her. Let's map out how Sean's day would work if Davina got what she wanted for a second here. He works 3 days worth of 16 hour (stacked) shifts back to back. Davina wants him to perm move to the UES which would mean his week would consist of... 3 days of: Wake Up. 2 hour commute to NJ. 16 hour shift of work. 2 hour commute home. 4 hours to shower, eat dinner, sleep. Then 4 days to recover from that roller coaster while trying not to upset the princess by you know, catching up on his sleeping or something equally offensive in her eyes. 4 hours. That's a medical malpractice suit waiting to happen. Meanwhile she lives and works on the UES and commutes like 10 minutes every day and she doesn't have to worry about a mistake due to fatigue costing her a small fortune, her career and someone their life. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for her? Say what? I get that he said he would be ok with moving and changed his mind (People are allowed to do that, right?) but Jac and Ryan R said the same, yet when they were matched they COMPROMISED. Something Davina was dead set against from jump street. If I'm Sean and I know I could lose at least 2 hours off my commute if my wife would agree to moving out of the UES (Remember the apartment they are in is temp. Her real place is being renovated) even for just the 6 weeks to try things out and she refused I'd bail too. Not to mention doubt her commitment to the marriage and that refusal happened right after the honeymoon. Then to get raked over the coals about every little thing you say she takes the wrong way I don't blame the guy for putting his promotion first (A promotion that was 3 years in the making long before he thought about this show. Davina bought an apartment during this time too. Why isn't she expected to give up her new place just as much as he is the promotion?). That would be a tough decision if he was with someone he was sure of let alone the mess of contradictions that is Davina. Maybe I'm missing something but I've seen nothing to indicate Davina has tried to make the marriage work other than lip service. She talks a good game but has yet to back it up with a single action. If anyone can list the ways she has sacrificed for the marriage like Sean has I'd be interested in seeing them cause right now I see nothing from her but a steady stream of BS, blame and excuses. Don't even get me started on the childish SM stuff. Even the docs are sick of Davina at this point. She and her friend Chris insult Sean daily and the only time he's mentioned her was to defend her from nasty comments. And he's the bad guy? Seriously? He's off about some things I'll admit but he's not the bad guy here. Not even remotely. He tried which is a lot more than she did. Davina would be well advised to drop that loser friend too. Talk about pulling you down into the muck. Dang. With friends like that....