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  1. 1 hour ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    The show very much wants viewers to think of Kelly's quest to help the people of the Heights as a noble crusade that was unfairly downplayed by the rest of the heroes, when it would have been a perfectly reasonable position for the Super Friends to explicitly say, "It's a sad thing that the 100 or so people are suffering, but they are getting the best medical care possible and the search for Nxy is a priority."

    Except it was not such a priority that they it needed all hands on deck. Nxy was not immediately causing an issue right then and there. Even Kelly mentioned that in the episode.

    No one is saying abandon the search for Nxyly, but at least send someone over to take a look. Especially when Kelly was raising the alarm that there was something going on there that conventional science couldn't explain.

     

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    The show implicitly portrays it as wrong that the rest of the Super Friends do not share Kelly's passion for focusing on the people of the Heights and that they didn't listen to her pleas to do something. What is worse IMO is that it's not really clear what the Super Friends were supposed to have been doing instead of looking for Nxy. 

    If for example, Brainy had spared a few minutes to go down there, they would have figured out the issue with Rankine much faster than they did.

     

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    Helping these 100 people in National City means that they aren't helping starving kids elsewhere or doing any of a number of other options. 

    I would appreciate this argument more if Kara hadn't already made a commitment to be there for those people just earlier.

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  2. 1 hour ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    It's usually good to see Dig, and they seem to be strongly hinting he will become a Green Lantern at some point. 

    On one hand, Dig seems to have put that whole thing away based on everything he's said over all the Arrowverse shows. On the other hand, worlds await. Time will tell.

     

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    I hate that the show portrays Kelly as being right that the lives of the, let's say 100 people who were being treated for a mysterious disease are automatically more crucial than oh, about the rest of creation in multiple dimensions who are threatened if Nxy manages to collect her set of Macguffins. Or even assuming that she doesn't, who are threatened that she might continue to wreak havoc if she just retains her ordinary power level. 

    The show never said that. As you yourself pointed out, one or two folks could have been diverted to go to the hospital. Kara just some episodes ago, made a commitment to do better for those same people, that's the least she could have done.

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  3. Wow, this was quite the episode. Making Yolanda think she sent Henry to burn in hell is one hell of a twisted way to break her. Seeing her guilt and suffering just keep ramping up over the episode was heartbreaking. She didn't deserve that. Now I'm really feeling worried for poor Beth.

     

    3 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

    Man, are Ca-, uh, people of a particular denomination good at self-flagellation. And Yolanda's parents are really no help.

    I haven't seen an on screen Catholic self-flagellate like that since Charles Cox.

     

    3 hours ago, cambridgeguy said:

    Courtney really should have asked Pat to stop by for the group scene.  An experienced voice may have been able to keep things from spiraling out of control, especially if one of the original JSA or Seven Soldiers killed a baddie back in the day.  

    Yolanda and Courtney were keeping this a secret from Pat.

     

    2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

    I wondered if the episode was just one mindgame for little evil kid Eclipso.

    Undoubtedly.

     

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    Instead of going to the confessional, maybe go to the school counsellor and ask for a referral to a therapist.  The priest can't do much except to actually leave the booth and maybe counsel her and help her get the help she needs.

    Then her parents would get involved, which she understandably wouldn't want.

     

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    The mom telling folks not to call, having her quit the job, etc. is wrong. What are they going to do? Move to a new town?

    They probably want the same thing as before, Yolanda going to school and back, no friends, no church, no social life.

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  4. 2 hours ago, DanaK said:

    At the same time, it’s hard for superheroes to focus on local issues when they’ve got big bad supervillains to fight, so Kelly practically screaming at them to listen to her very local concerns when they are in the middle of finding and fighting a supervillain just seemed like odd positioning to me

    They could have divided their resources more efficiently though.

    Was the entire team necessary to go look for debris? Couldn't Supergirl or Dreamer have put in a little facetime, especially since she was literally just doing social media blasts about how important the people there are and helping out Orlando, not to mention the fact that she bears some culpability in the building's collapse.

     

    1 hour ago, Lantern7 said:

    Man. That was heavy. Quick question . . . the councilwoman's name wouldn't happen to have been "Karen," would it?

    It was Rankine, which contains all the letters for Karen.

     

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    "That building brings Kara joy? Gone. Screw you!" I get Kelly's exasperation, especially when she saw the footage of Supergirl playing with the giant cat and the news anchors having fun with it.

    It wasn't just Kara and friends either. Andrea was more interested in covering traffic than a building collapse.

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  5. Wow, Eclipso came and he did not disappoint. I feel sorry for Isaac, kid had literally no dog in this fight and he died because Cindy lied to him. Hell, I even feel sorry for Cindy, she didn't deserve whatever hell she was dropped into. 

    Mike has a serious point though, with all the kidnapping he could use a STRIPE of his own. Maybe Zeke can put a flaming chainsaw on his 🤣

     

    3 hours ago, kirinan said:

    The violence is over the top, and it's been unrelentingly dark. 

    Really? This show is sunshine and rainbows compared to some real dark stuff.

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  6. 8 hours ago, AAEBoiler said:

    This show is just giving me whiplash from last week's "Anthology of Horror" to this week's backdoor pilot to next week having Archie back in the trenches in World War 1 again. A few episodes ago Jughead got in a semi that we thought was the Trash Bag killer but then he keeps showing up as if nothing's happened. This season is an absolute mess!

    Aside from obvious backdoor pilot-ness of this episode, I get the feeling it was aired out of order.

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  7. A great episode, with Josie calling out in everyone in Riverdale for their shit being a particular highlight. I especially liked how she just straight up told Hiram he was a little bitch. He deserved that. I had completely forgotten about Jughead robbing Pops or Cheryl sending Josie a pig's heart (why?) but it's good that Josie didn't let that slip on by.

    I howled when Betty was all "Let's save Riverdale together!" and Josie just replied that they didn't even talk in school slow your roll.

    Seeing the Pussycats reunite was amazing. It's so weird to see young adults on this show who actually have their lives together, not the spiralling mess of the Core Four.

    I would really love to see a show where Josie and the Pussycats tour the nation, and get involved with weird voodoo stuff. Please make it happen, CW!

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  8. On 9/4/2021 at 6:12 PM, AuntieMame said:

    As for Bill’s non apology apology, I really appreciated other posts here about why that non apology is such bullshit and so offensive. BUT, BUT, but, I thought the reason for the apology being needed was a ton of ridiculous nonsense. The very definition of tempest in a teapot. It wasn’t offensive. Bill was saying nazism was absurd and ridiculous and in the course of lecturing with an engagement he hadn’t shown in a while. 

    For me, the issue was not so much Bill's gaffe with the Nazi salute, but how his lazy, privileged way of dealing with the issue escalated it far more than it needed to go.

    All he had to do at the start was sign the HR letter, lay low for a few weeks to a month (and use that time to get his shit together) and that would have been the end of the matter. But he refused because he thought the students would "smell the bullshit", so he goes up there and gives a insincere apology and guess what, the students smelled the bullshit and the whole thing went from bad to worse. 

    Bill is the reason it became such a big issue, no one else. Literally everyone warned him about it too, but he ignored them because he felt he could just snap his fingers and make it go away.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Jediknight said:

    Please let Artemis see right through Cindy.  Let her join the young JSA.  Perhaps Pat and Barb could let her stay with them, since her foster family seems to only care about the money.

    On one hand Crusher and Paula are members of the ISA, on the other hand they are good parents, and I liked them with Pat and Barb.  Gonna suck that they won't reappear.

    Sportsmaster and Tigress have been promoted to series regulars, so we'll be seeing them again

     

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  10. 17 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

    Uh, Ellen? I don't think your rehab is working. Seeing how angry she was getting not even a couple of weeks out of rehab just shows that it was really no true help to her and she's really going to need to find some anger management classes on top of therapy on top of rehab. Obviously, seeing her ex husband has triggered her, but shouldn't rehab have taught her how to handle situations when they're stressful? Her go-to emotion is clearly anger and she went there again quite quickly here. She half apologized but it didn't really seem to mean much. Not that Paul is much better; he may not have been abusive but he was completely absent and he needs to atone for that as well. They both ARE shitty parents and both need to be held equally accountable, not joking around with each other at the conference or whatever. 

    I actually appreciated that Ellen didn't magically become a better person after a few weeks away. She's still fucked up, but at least she has some ability to realize that about herself now.

     

    15 hours ago, possibilities said:

    It was bizarre that the council was debating an all or nothing proposal of infrastructure vs stimulus. Also, while I'm not opposed to some direct payout, calling it stimulus is weird because there's nothing to say Greylock needs stimulus. 

    That's pulled from the headlines plots for you. I will suppose that the flood probably hurt some folks who were already hurting though.

     

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    Sarah on the hot mic? Hooboy. Where would TV be without the hot mic to drive plot?

    Who knows? Worse stuff happens in real life with some disturbing Zoom fails, so all I did with this reveal was laugh.

     

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    Grover and his movies, Corinne with her students, and the extremely mature and competent teens of the week, are like they're from a different show. I wonder if they do it on purpose: a few sane kind of easy subplots, and a lotta angsty drama in the foreground.

    Where would the CW be without drama?

     

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    I lost sympathy for Adam this week. It started last week, but this time he crossed a lne. he needs anger managment as much as anyone. He's not wrong to be upset but he's hurting Josh, and he's acting badly. At the same time, so is Corinne who still hasn't really come clean with him, and so is Bro with the Fists. None of these people are acting like reasonable adults. But it irks me that I think the show is trying to make me hate Adam so they can ge rid of him and make way for the gross adventures of Corinne and Danny who are also not great examples.

     

    Ditto. Guy was already going to far with the Sarah thing last week, it just escalated. I can fully understand wanting to leave Corinne, but this revenge thing where you steal her kid from her? That's just disgusting.

  11. 1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

    Probably not going to see her son the day after she got out of rehab was the best course of action. You know, maybe give him more than a few hours to process her return before bombarding him in public to put on an apology that seems to make HER feel better more than him.

    Seems like the people at the rehab centre who let her go probably did so WAY too early. 

    This is a case where the need for drama on TV outweighs what's the right thing to do, I suppose. 

     

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    Obviously, Sarah needed to bring the situation down before it got violent. Telling Adam that she'll have him arrested is not a good way to get the situation to calm down.

    I didn't read that scene as Sarah threatening to have him arrested so much as if he punched someone on a public road in broad daylight he was gonna get arrested regardless.

     

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    And also, as much as I get that Sarah is Corrine's best friend and not Adam's, telling the guy who was wronged that she was on the cheater's side? Again, not exactly a way to de-escalate the situation.

    She said that to him after Danny had already walked away and the situation was already calmed down. 

     

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    But I think Sarah has not been acknowledging fully the actions of Corrine being completely wrong. It's good for her to be supportive, but it's also good to not handhold her and imply that Corrine did nothing wrong. She keeps trying to protect Corrine, but Corrine is an adult who can handle whatever repercussions that come her way. Sarah has basically interjected herself into a situation when she should be stepping back. 

    The same thing happened with AJ. This group of friends seem very ride or die for each other.

  12. 14 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

    With how Sarah 100% defended Danny and made Adam the bad guy during their meet-up (she spoke very softly to Danny and was gentle with him, but she was more brash and curt with Adam, even threatening to arrest him for punching her brother)

    That's not how I read the incident with Adam, Danny and Sarah at all. Adam was the one who almost escalated things to violence on first sight and Sarah was the one that shut that down for both their own goods and she even made sure to tell Adam that she was on Corinne's side in this incident.

     

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    Adam has every right to say "hey, I think the entire Cooper family is the problem here". Because he really isn't wrong. And I get that him offering up an ultimatum is wrong, because he can't control who Corrine sees and all that. But he also can't help how he feels.

    I get why he feels this way, but once you're at the point where you're trying to control who your SO can meet, that's the stage where you need to let the relationship end imo.

     

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    Not to mention the look he gave Adam when they met up, as if HE was wronged and as if HE had a reason to punch Adam after Adam threatened to hit him. Buddy, you caused this upon yourself. Adam has every right to hate you. Obviously, violence isn't the answer, but Danny practically snarling at Adam's response was not the right call.

    Danny did bring this on himself, but he seemed very apologetic when first confronted. His tone only kind of changed when Adam threatened violence.

     

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    Maya's storyline was actually very touching. Of course she sees the best in her mother, even though her mother clearly had more than one bad day out of 10. I mean, not having food in the house for a week at one point? Having screaming matches with her boyfriend? And god knows what else she did? It sounds like she had at least a couple of bad days, not just one. 

    I wonder if Maya's mom is going to end up moving to Greylock or if this is the end of this particular plot?

     

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    Grover still remains awesome, especially with his dog, and it was nice seeing him interact with AJ.

    Grover is really becoming the standout of this show.

     

    57 minutes ago, possibilities said:

    I think it was wrong for mom to force herself on Danny. Even moreso that she did it in a public place where he would be creating a scene if he didn't give in to her and let her speak to him, and where his response was going to happen without any privacy. I have found it helpful to hear people acknowledge how much they fucked up, but the number one rule when you've been violent is not to force yourself on anyone anymore, for any reason. Any kind of rehab that didn't teach her that, is quite ridiculous.

    This. She really shouldn't have done that in a public place. Perhaps she wanted (or was even advised in rehab to) avoid going to his motel room since she was already told not to return or use Sarah as vehicle for a meeting, but surely there was a better way.

     

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    They seem to be glossing over dad abandoning them. I think it's fine for Sarah to treat him like any other asylum seeker. But the whole "bygones!" attitude toward him as a father strikes me as some serious bullshit. Though, she has the same attitude toward her abusive mother, so it's in character. I just think the show is endorsing it too strongly.

    She seems to be trying to fix their relationship in private but amongst others her attitude towards him hasn't changed much so I'm not sure if she's simply keeping perspective on him or keeping things private or simply fronting to her friends.

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  13. 30 minutes ago, ruby24 said:

    Is this actually true? The actors object to their characters getting back together?

    This can definitely happen on shows and has affected them before, but I didn't know that was the case here. Do we know this for certain?

    I don't know anything for sure, of course, but Cole Sprouse and Lili Reinhart broke up in real life, so that could be a factor.

  14. 18 minutes ago, swanpride said:

    There is no reason to think that T'Challa would be treated any differently than him.

    The context is different. Yondu feels guilty about Peter since he kidnapped him to get killed by his father like all the rest of his siblings, so the relationship took on a different note because of Yondu displacing those feelings onto Peter, what with the threatening to eat him and such.

    No such feelings there with T'challa who made a good first impression on Yondu by acting calm and talking about his desire to explore.

     

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    Or that he would somehow get the nickname Quill claimed for himself mostly out of sentimental reasons. 

    This is fair, but I imagine T'challa told them about being a lord, and what with the part about him traveling through space the name stuck.

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  15. On 8/13/2021 at 2:10 PM, tennisgurl said:

    Tabitha and Jughead might have a thing now, but we all know Bughead will rise again, no matter how nasty their offscreen breakup was. 

    People seem to think this way, but if the two of them are really against it, can it still be done?

     

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    I cant blame him for not wanting to get into the middle of Veronica's soon to be messy divorce from her cartoon villain soon to be ex, but he is being a bit pedantic about signing the divorce papers when its clear that Veronica's marriage is over in every meaningful way. This is the line that shall not be cross? Really? 

    I thought Archie was cautious about Chad using the infidelity to strengthen his case in court re: the divorce.

  16. Wonderful premiere! Courtney and Mike being hyper into the superhero business makes sense. Doing something that really has an impact can be addicting. 

    Again, Beth needs better parents. My heart goes out to that kid. She's trying so hard but her parents just...don't care. Normally this is where a kid would act out but Beth just tried harder instead. God bless that child!

    Speaking of God, it's good that the show remembered that Yolanda is a practicing Catholic. It's really something so rare to see on Tv these days. The Brainwave thing is really weighing on her.  

    Rick and that teacher though. I wouldn't do another test like that either, that teacher was out of line. Pity Rick's uncle is trash so he won't stand up for him. I'm interested to see where this Grundy thing is going to go.

    And we finally have a Green Lantern on the CW! Sorry Dig, you were too slow off the mark to be number 1. This is why you don't ignore the Guardian's calls!

     

    18 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

    Poor Pat. He really wanted that two-week getaway.

    Is it just me, or should Pat and the rest of them just have gone on the vacation and left Courtney some money to feed herself or something? 

    Girl's old enough to fight crime, she can survive 2 weeks alone, right?

     

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    Cindy's back! Question: how come nobody thought to seal up the secret entrance to ISA HQ?

    To be fair, they'd have to take down the wall to seal that door. I think they've destroyed enough school property for one year.

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  17. This show is always so great! I love that they delving into what gives a small town its character and identity. It's always the people living there that make a town what it is. Edge's dad must be the nastiest ex ever. He actually put himself into poor Lara's grandkid. That's a nasty form of revenge.

    Poor Jon. Guy was just having a good day for a change when this happens. Not only is his brother gone, he's gonna feel guilty that this happened because of him. Let this boy be happy, show!

     

    17 hours ago, bettername2come said:

    Like yes, they shouldn't be daydrinking at 14 and ignoring Grandpa's calls but it's believable. 

    Pretty sure they're 16-17, but yeah, their stupidity is so believable it hurts.

     

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    And Sam, why are you telling either of the boys to grab the gun? You know perfectly well only one of them has any business handling kryptonite weaponry. 

    Sam was too injured to shoot and if someone has to hold that thing, better it be Jon.

     

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    Which Flash villain do we think is that girl's dad?

    Whoever it is, hope they're not in Barry's secret prison. Though Iron Heights doesn't seem like much of an improvement...

     

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    In fairness, he can't do that yet. Though Dad should totally give him a lift. 

    Based on how Superboy works, he may never be able to .

     

    16 hours ago, dwmarch said:

     A couple of episodes ago when Jon was getting interrogated by Miss Mixed Messages he could have told her something similar. Dude is in the military and takes that stuff seriously. He doesn't gossip about it at the dinner table.

    Lois would rip him a new ass if he told her that.

  18. 13 minutes ago, possibilities said:

    I am not opining on what immigration policy they should have adopted, but I find it to be bizarre that Sarah thought the only option was to vote for "open borders with a background check and 1 week probation" or "closed borders". 

    Also, what is the point of the background check if finding something doesn't disqualify someone? Did they write rules for what is or is not disqualifying?

    I guess they just wanted to raise the issue of how hard it is to agree on rules, without sweating the details.

    Immigration policy is way too complicated to be boiled down into a single TV episode, so I'll give them a pass on that.

     

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    I liked the art show. Do not think it was okay to submit his work without his permission, and would not forgive that so easily. But I liked the advice Grover gave about having an independent art show and not to internalize the opinions of people whose biases are not worthy of respect.

    I mean, did you see the scene where they showed the sort of stuff that was made it into the art show? There was actually a photo of a flower of a vase! And they had the nerve to call his art tedious!

     

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    Also liked AJ with her dad.

    Nice to see her doing something that wasn't related to Sarah or having an affair.

  19. To the surprise of absolutely no one at all, Danny and Corrine started cheating. I mean, really, they were emotionally cheating for a while now, it just moved to the physical. Grover saw it and tried to head it off, but alas, it was too late. Danny's confession about why he left Corinne was pretty heartfelt. Luke Mitchell is good at scenes like that, I think.

    I really like that the show dipped its toes a bit into the idea of black therapists. There not being a black therapist for 100 whole miles for Grover to talk to felt very real. His reluctance at accepting the therapy was as well. I like it was AJ that helped him with that.

     

     

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  20. On 7/21/2021 at 2:14 PM, possibilities said:

    It's not Sarah's fault that the winners were mostly all people in her friend and family zone, and she did a pretty good job of staying out of the election. But I agree that having opponents will make the situation more realistic.

    It's not her fault, but it doesn't mean good things for the country itself.

     

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    I don't think her brother will support her all the time, and the teenager is clearly not her fan anymore (what a brat!), but in politics the optics are significant, and governing is tough even in the best of circumstances.

    Her brother will support her for a quid pro quo. I don't think Maya's a brat because she upset she nearly got deported, but she's clearly not 100% Team Sarah anymore either.  Sarah seems to feel guilty about it, so she should really leverage that to get some stuff passed as soon as possible.

  21. Sad to see Corinne lost, but I guess there would be no point to a 5 person council if Sarah had 3 votes locked in. This arrangement has a lot of potential for future storylines, since Sarah is gonna have to compromise a lot more to get anything done.

    That Farnsby lady is annoying, but she's likely the best politician we've seen on the show (including the actual state governor) so Sarah should watch herself.

    AJ's relationship really imploded there. It was sad to watch.

    3 hours ago, Athena5217 said:

    I really hate this storyline with Sarah and the reporter, but not because of Grover. Sarah was way too forgiving of being compared to a dictator. Has Sarah had anyone tortured or murdered? Has she banned any religions? Tried to take over any neighboring countries? Then maybe the comparisons were a bit unfair and frankly insulting to people who suffered under dictators like Idi Amin and Mao Zedong. But does Sarah the history teacher point out any of this to him? Nope! Like so many women in literature, TV and movies, she proceeds to fall for the man who has treated her badly. What a great message for girls watching this show. 

    I get what you're saying but awkward word choice aside, he had a point about Sarah basically running the country without any oversight. She doesn't even listen to anyone who isn't her friend, family member or student.

  22. Someone in the writer's room must really like Power Rangers... The speedsters arriving in a flash of lightning, Godspeed's whole Rita act and the clones were basically Putties.

    They must  have been saving their budget for this, because the action was pretty good. The lightsaber duel was a great highlight.

    I howled when Barry schooled Thawne and told him that he just plain outranks him now.

    I had no idea Bart's actor had any singing experience so I was floored when he started singing. He's really, really good!

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  23. Whoa, John went full-on Laughing Magician mode this episode. This almost felt like it could have been an issue of Hellblazer. I don't dislike the lighter Constantine this show has created, but seeing some classic stuff mixed in was very nice. 

    It was also great to see OZ (can't believe no one thought of that before now) Zari around, though I do wish the joy would just bite the bullet and keep both Zaris around instead of this back and forth. Pregnant Mick continues to be a hell of a thing.

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  24. 13 hours ago, anamika said:

     I mean, yeah we can come up with irrationality as a reason for many plot points, but Kyle and Lana could have easily countered those accusations with rationality. The townspeople think so highly of Kyle - a guy who likes his alcohol - that they got into Edge's weird machine to get their brains biologically altered because Kyle vouched for him? Without even checking with Kyle on this? That was their choice.

    And it's not like Lana did not try to keep Emily away or Lois barged into their meeting and told everyone that Edge is a baddie - they didn't want to listen at that point because they were as desperate as Kyle for those jobs. Again, something that Kyle and Lana can easily bring up.

    It just seems like a badly thought out plot point to give the Cushings something to do this episode. And if they are going to use this to push Kyle to do something bad, then yeah. And that removing the graffiti scene really felt out of place in this episode, along with the missing daughter that they remembered by the end.

     

    You can't counter emotion with reason. These people are angry and scared, of course they're going to gravitate to blaming the nearest person that they can and that's Kyle and Lana. It doesn't matter what they say to defend themselves. Maybe once people calm down they'll change their minds.

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