Diapason Untuned
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I don't dislike any of the core four, but the problem with Bughead (mostly Betty) is that they don't seem to face any consequences for their actions. At least Varchie does, a little.
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10 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:
I still find it funny that we’re suppused to be all “Archie did good, pleading guilty, he’s so brave”.. when really he is a idiot. That’s probably what Mary and Fred we’re thinking: “why is our son an idiot?”
I wasn't thinking that Archie was brave, I was thinking that Archie felt guilty about the stuff he did (and let's be real, he did some messed up stuff) and wanted to be punished for it. It's dumb, but it's an understandable dumb, a dumb I can like.
8 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:That’s what I’ve been saying. Like others though I feel they are doing this because of Sabrina. But as I said when Sabrina got picked up I swear I remember reading that the shows would be existing in different universes. Guess that’s changed.
I hope the supernatural element isn’t really supernatural and is more of something Betty is hallucinating. Like for some reason I’m thinking Alice and Polly got to her pills and are drugging her and making her go crazy. And cult leader Edgar told them to do this. This might be a way of them to try and gaslight her into the cult.
They said the same thing about Arrow once upon a time. Like that show as well, I don't really mind it going supernatural, because I'm aware of it's roots.
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4 hours ago, Mellowyellow said:
I don't find the Nora is frosty to Iris storyline engaging at all. It's another crap thing to throw at Iris and Barry once again gets to be the adored parent even though he's not actually around. I am hoping the show will surprise me with a compelling reason as to why Nora is such a turd to her mum but my expectations are low at this stage.
There are only a few ways they can write to explain the relationship between Iris and Nora and none of it bodes particularly well for the ladies. Either Nora is a turd and her mum did nothing wrong which makes her ungrateful or we will be subject to a storyline where Iris fails as a mum in some way. Since I think Iris could/should be a great mum I find this most annoying. Especially when Barry gets idolised. I have always liked Barry, Grant makes him very likeable but this storyline for Iris is shit!
I think we're going to get an "Iris is super overprotective" storyline and this is what causes the fracture in their relationship. You won't need to worry about the show making Iris look bad.
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A nice new episode. I like that the show is a little more willing to poke fun at itself, that helps it out a lot.
Nora was a little overwhelming, but considering she was meeting her father for basically the very first time ever, it makes sense.
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A pretty nice episode, best one since Tales from the Darkside, I think. Just goes to show that Riverdale is at it's best when characters are friendly with each other amidst the madness.
But poor Midge! She was barely there, but I did like her a bit.
I don't what the show is doing with Chic.
It tries very, very hard to convince us that he's creepy and evil with dramatic shots and music, but then I remember that the guy hasn't actually been all that horrible.
I wondered if he was in on it with those guys, but if he were, would he have come back now? He could very well be the Black Hood or in league with him too. The show is just being so obvious that I wonder if it's a red herring. It would be funny if it turned out that Chic was just a damaged camboy drug dealer, and not a monster though.
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21 hours ago, xqueenfrostine said:
Is it though? They infected thousands of people against their will by purposefully contaminating a flu vaccine (for a deadly flu that they intentionally brought to Seattle!). If that's not bioterrorism, what is? I can hand wave the US government being willing to work with them for now until they come up with a better plan, but calling Fillmore Graves a terrorist force that has essentially taken control of Seattle is an entirely fair assessment.
I can buy Fillmore Graves being guilty of bioterrorism, yes, but what I don't buy is that they're holding Seattle against the will of the US government. Seems more likely to me that they've simply made a deal with the government to take over management of Seattle in lieu of a better solution. A fine distinction, perhaps, but a distinction all the same.
14 hours ago, AllyB said:All of this is why this was such a bad route for the plot to take. This is soooo much bigger than the writers seem to realise.
Rather than a bad or good route, I feel it's more of an inevitable route, considering the premise. The more zombies were revealed existing, the more implausible it becomes that they could remain undetected forever. Eventually the secret would have to come out. I actually applaud the show for taking the premise to the logical conclusion.
QuoteAnd since when was Ravi a creep who was all in for hearing about someone else's sex problems. He used to have a normal sense of human boundary.
I don't think he was interested in the sex part specifically, he was more interested in Clive, who in the past has volunteered mostly nothing of his personal life, and rebuffed most of Ravi's attempts to learn more, coming to him for personal advice.
QuoteAnd the Angus as a mad priest taking his ever increasing numbers of followers on murderous rampages in a city under a form of martial law yet is still going unnoticed was just so stupid.
Except it didn't go unnoticed. We literally saw a Fillmore Graves soldier witness them. We just haven't seen the blowback yet.
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6 minutes ago, Thrifty said:
Ravi didn't even mention the vaccine. And he hasn't mentioned it to anyone other than Liv. The CDC could probably use that information. Or the tens of thousands of humans trapped in the city. The army, for example, could use it to protect soldiers against the terrorists who have taken over Seattle.
Clive already knows about the vaccine, since he wasn't surprised by Ravi's naturist phase last week. The CDC must be working on a cure/vaccine already, and the current incarnation of Ravi's vaccine isn't useful anyway. And it's a bit much to call Fillmore Graves terrorists that have taken over Seattle. The government seems to be working with them out of pragmatism.
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9 minutes ago, Thrifty said:
I don't understand what that means. Why would a human force of trained soldiers be at a disadvantage?
Because they would get turned into zombies.
2 hours ago, Thrifty said:When Clive went to Ravi with his concerns about his sex life, I expected Ravi to bring up the vaccine he's been secretly hoarding for 3 months. Ravi is hands down my least favorite character for his utter selfishness.
Ravi's vaccine turns people into zombies sometimes, and Clive has been very clear that he doesn't want to be a zombie.
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The SHIELD team just stood around and did nothing to even try to go after HYDRA. Just a comment along the lines of...oh...it's HYDRA, well damn...then they just kicked the dirt and hung their heads down in shame for being such a sucky team.
Short of shooting the plane down, there was nothing they could have done to stop HYDRA from taking that guy, and it should be obvious why that would be a bad idea.
Eh, Quake could easily shoot the plane down. But they were in the middle of a City. That would not be good PR at all. Should probably have made that explicit - no need to have anyone even explicitly say it, just have a camera pan down and show houses below the hydra plane.
You'd think it should be self-evident why blowing a plane up over a city would be a bad idea...
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Someone upthread mentioned that these writers keep side-stepping the emotions. They do it all the time and it's frustrating. It's like they're afraid of emotions. They're certainly not afraid of drama, but they won't let their characters have authentic reactions.
I think they're afraid that if they have characters react too emotionally to stuff, they won't be able to plausibly write their way back from it.
Take the breakup. The whole thing had an air of inevitability to it, rather than something that happened by itself (though a case could be made about Barry's involvement there). If that really let it happen, how could they get them back together again? (which is pretty clearly going to happen)
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I don't think I've ever laughed this much during an episode of Arrow before, considering the material I don't think that's a good thing
Loved that Thea finally told Malcolm (again), what a scumbag he is. Can't believe he had the balls to spew half the crap that came out of his mouth.
The chip activating just in time for Felicity to walk away was hilarious. Gold star humour, which again probably wasn't what they were going for...
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Oh, one other thing I really hated tonight--Dottie, who took out Thompson in 0.5 seconds while handcuffed to a table like three episodes ago, now gets punked by him like a beginner? Come on, show. I know that people always have plot-convenient levels of fighting ability (see Peggy's mysterious healing powers between tonight's episodes!) but that was so unbelievable.
Last time Thompson was underestimating her in an attempt to one-up Peggy. This time he got her from behind and he was certainly not underestimating her, so I can buy it.
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I was just thinking this season needed an Ezekiel episode, and they delivered!
Really great stuff, especially turning the time loop into a game. They had me at the health pack...
I was hoping Ezekiel remembered and was just faking it -- and would still love it if that's the case -- but the look he gives at the end felt definite to me that he doesn't. He gets a wondering "could it be?" expression, followed by a "nah, no way" smirk . Granted, that's not dialogue. An acting/directing choice could be contradicted down the line.
To me it looked more like a "Should I really be doing this?", "Eh, whatever" look. Maybe because he's embarrassed he was a little too open?
Hopefully he does remember, in whatever way possible.
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Really? You know young people in this day and age who've been in love with one person since childhood, had no other relationship and ended up with that childhood crush?But again... is this really necessary? There actually are people who end up with just one person in their life (I've known several, actually).
Perhaps they think people already got the message in S1, so they don't need to spend time on it now.Two things:1. I do agree that it's egregious that they're pretending that it never happened. I think there needs to be SOME reference to it.
I think this goes back to #1 - this season it would make sense for Iris to catch feelings for Barry, but keep it in. But that apparently won't happen either.So - ugh - the writers are nuts.
You also have to remember that this is a supposed to be a long running show. They probably want to delay WestAllen for as long as possible.
I hear what you're saying but the writers simply telling us Barry and Patty are in a serious, meaningful relationship isn't enough. I don't see Barry and Patty as serious, because their scenes are meaningless, so this doesn't make me view Barry as more "experienced". This relationship could literally be happening completely off screen and the impact on the audience would be the same. IMO This relationship doesn't feel any more real than Barry and Becky Cooper in high school to me. lol So if the plan was to give Barry a serious gf so the audience will feel comfortable with him settling down with Iris next season, they failed, because I don't think people are going to feel any differently about Barry, Iris, or Westallen than they did before Barry/Patty.
Whatever you think of it, the fact is we are seeing Barry in a relationship. Seeing is believing.
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But the thing is Patty and Barry don't even have much of a relationship so I don't know what the audience is getting out of watching them. They went on the typical awkward first date, kissed a few times, but that's it. They don't even have great conversations. These writers have no idea how to write romantic pairings.
What the audience is supposed to get out of Barry/Patty is Barry getting experience in a relationship.
They go through the motions so that when WestAllen happens, Barry has emotionally matured from the kid who had a crush on her since forever.
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Yup. It's fucking WEIRD. I want to know what's going on behind the scenes now, because why the hell would a useless character like Patty suddenly be written in and given more screentime than Iris? This whole thing has been truly fucked up this season.
I think Patty's a stepping stone for Westallen.
They want to show Barry in a long term relationship with someone to give him some experience before the endgame, as it were.
I think the reason Iris hasn't been shown with Barry as much this season is because the showrunners think the relationship with Patty will pale if he's hanging around Iris a lot.
The biggest issue is that they can't seem to work Iris into the show without Barry around. They've been trying with the Linda scenes and the scenes with her mom, but they need to better.
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(And being a reporter was never a problem for including Lois Lane in plots.)
To be fair, Superman worked at the Daily Planet.
Barry spends most of his time either at STAR Labs or the police station.
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There was NO reason not to have her there when he woke up - or even Joe! NO REASON - not after she saw him get dragged like that.
I just assumed she and Joe weren't there because it was the middle of the day and they had to go to work.Cisco and Caitlin did say it was a while.
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I would argue it's more like they realized they were fucking up their own show and needed to "course correct" back to what actually was working in s1 and made it a good show. YMMV
Hey, first time poster here.
I think sticking too closely to Season 1 is what caused the problem with Katrina in the first place.
Season 1 Katrina was less a character, more a plot device, a mysterious figure that gave out info from Purgatory to move the plot along. When she finally got out of Purgatory, the writers didn't know what to do with her, which is why they continued along that vein with the ridiculous spying thing. When even that wore out and Katrina was finally dragged into the 21st century with the rest of the characters, she simply... flagged.
Unlike Ichabod, who was written as a man out of time making his way in our modern world, with everything that entailed, Katrina never moved past her original role from Season 1. We barely got to see the sort of offbeat quirkiness that, among other things, made Ichabod such a delight to viewers. Rather, the writers defaulted to the old standby of relationship drama, for the most part. We never got to see Katrina have a life.
it's a shame really, that could have been really fun.
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S03.E01: Chapter Thirty-Six: Labor Day
in Riverdale
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Because Hiram is running Riverdale. Why do you think Veronica begged him to put a stop to it?
Hiram would just keep putting Archie on trial over and over again until he got convicted or his life got wrecked.
I don't think she was hostile, just worried about Betty, which she had every right to be. If she expressed that in an angry way, it's understandable, considering Betty's obvious disdain for her lifestyle.