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Well it seems to me like reading the fb likes is pretty accurate (at least for the first two weeks I have done it) - two weeks ago, you could tell Charlie was heading for danger and last week it seemed certain and look. They pretty solidly indicated a lack of interest in his dances. I divided my votes between Charlie and Meryl from the beginning because I suspected this and want to watch both till the end. I feel very sad. Missed nearly all of last night's show because Buffalo wasn't coming in OTA (got Charlie's NY and Meryl's waltz and that's it), so no comments till I've had some catch up.

Bitsy, can you tell me her twitter address? Me TOO!

For those of you interested in where the facebook likes are sitting at right now: Meryl and Maks 4646 Amy and Derek 3016 James and Peta 2451 Candace and Mark 2167 Charlie and Sharna 1347 (Danica and Val) 1037 Charlie and Candace 2513 James and Amy 2272 Danica and Meryl 1243 Totals Meryl 5889 Amy 5288 James 4723 Candace 4680 Charlie 3860 (Danica) 2280

I vote online from Canada.

Was the stool really excellent or are you just cutting it slack because of what a great job it did considering it can't bend its legs or emote or move? Jokes aside - I thought Amy's AT was pretty good and I was really sorry that the stool move didn't work. Maybe not perfect score good, but in the show's scoring style definitely a 37 or 38. I also thought more notice should have been taken for the awkwardness in the lift with Charlie and Candace. I get the feeling that it was one of those nights where the rehearsal and the actual show were very different. The scores and comments go very whack when that happens.

I am no fan of Derek Hough (I am a reluctant fan of his choreo on occasion) and Amy is gutsy but not particularly likeable to me, yet I don't think she's being marked particularly unfairly for the most part. She should have been docked for the stool error tonight, except that I think it was Derek's fault, wasn't it? I didn't like Mark's opening song, but I didn't hate it either. As an opening NUMBER, I thought it was really fun and rewatched it instantly. Neither Tony nor Maks were dancing in it, is that right? Who all was dancing in it? I saw: Derek, Val, Henri, Artem and who else? Emma, Lindsay, Witney, Peta, Cheryl and who else? I defo think that James and Candace should have gone home before Danica on the dancing scale of things. Also, bring me a group of James, Peta, Candace, Mark, Danica and Val and VAL is the person I want to see dance. So that's just depressing. I agree with the comment that Charlie's 40 seemed like a pity 40 (or in fact, the 40 he deserved last week). ,

Yes, but the voting goes on ad infinitum or ad fb-apocalypse or whatever. So the number of likes for party anthem week counts my vote today if I didn't vote on one earlier. I don't think we could tell about the actual numbers unless somebody had been doing a comparable count - such as, what number of votes each package of stills got 24 hours after posting. And also, the person who's posting, would have be posting at the same interval post-show in each case to be more accurate. And we might have to have an idea of how many people were following the site each week as that number has to be changing too.

Not sure what thread to put this in because we're talking about this here... These are the fb scores from Party Anthem night: Meryl 6718 James 3263 Amy 2558 Charlie 2332 Candace 1885 Danica 1827 NeNe 610 Drew 489 I think I might be seeing the reason why the judges are trying to whip up the indignation over their treatment of Charlie.

I'm not the person who claimed that the fb likes seemed to be trending accurately this season. That would be Kirstyn on Afterbuzz. The Dancing with the Stars fb page has over 5 million likes itself, but I couldn't see a follower total. Every week they put up a still from each dance and everybody who is so inclined "likes" their favourite(s). https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152356638066740.1073741842.8214706739&type=1 You just look for the likes exactly where you would ordinarily look at them on any facebook pic.

On Afterbuzz, Kirstyn said that the DWTS fb page has been very accurate this season. If true, here are how those fb likes for each dance shake out (the first score is the number of likes for the individual dance, the second is for the group dance, the third is the total). I put them in order of who had the most popular individual dance, because I'm not sure how the group dance affects one's voting... Celeb Pair dance Group dance Total Meryl 3248 2129 5377 James 3109 909 4018 Candace 2115 2129 4244 Amy 1837 2129 3966 Danica 1311 2129 3440 Charlie 1291 909 2200 If Kirstyn's claim is correct, we look like we're in for an actually shocking elimination. I don't think I believe it.

As I said over on TWoP - wasn't Peta supposed to be the pinup girl from the garage James was working in? In which case, she was quite modestly dressed.

I really liked Ricky Martin as a judge. He was very genuine and he'd clearly been watching all season in preparation which was charming. I thought Charlie and Sharna's dance was fascinating. I'd like to watch it again -- it was one of the dances where I felt I was not completely understanding what I am seeing. I usually find that kind of dance to be very fun to re-watch.

I defo agree that Maks and Meryl were hard to see FAR TOO OFTEN because of all the dancers messing up the visuals.

Can this thread have "Latin Night" after the episode number? I find it really easy to find the right thread with the storybook name as well. Glad to see the end of NeNe - I don't think she treated Tony very well. Also I am just done with watching her dance. Both the team dances were pretty fun to watch.

Quotation above from Maks' thread - I always thought that Tony was weirdly quiet and did not project much personality at all. Couldn't understand his self-proclaimed moniker "Bad boy of the ballroom" or whatever. But as the seasons have progressed, Tony keeps showing more and more glimpses of his temper and ego that are not pretty. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for actually knowing who he honestly is, but it strikes me that his former quiet internality was a disguise. Of course, CAI is a complete jerk to him - WAY more than to anyone else. He looks fantastic in that outfit he's wearing tonight. Something has changed about how he presents himself. I wonder what's going on there.

Thanks for the informative link, Kromm. I've been hoping someone would save me from the ignominy of google searching this situation.

From what I remember of what I've read, Derek is specifically known for directing all the camera movements in his dances. It's one of his amazing talents.

Yeah - I thought James was terrible in hold and not much better than that out of hold. I loved the MSOD until the moment at the end where Derek stared into the camera like he was Satan's favourite spawn or something. Up until then, I was appreciating that Derek wasn't hogging all of the limelight. Glad Drew's gone - I found his packages with Cheryl to be deeply uncomfortable. I don't care what tptb say, he did not strike me as the entertainer of the show even once. Now get rid of Candace and NeNe and then James.

Dots and Stripes, After they saw dress rehearsal, I think that the judges intended to give Charlie 10s and Meryl 2 tens and 2 nines (in respect of moving along this season's story and because they thought it would be possible). When Charlie made the error (which I think probably had a lot more emotional impact in live studio than it did on tv), the judges made the choices they did leaving them to try to recapture the original plot line by marking Meryl down WAY more than she deserved. However, because of their inconsistency in their reaction to the error, the error itself has become more of a source of conversation than the intended Charlie/Meryl standings flip. Len is the canny one, publicity-wise. They were trying to go for this headline: "Meryl Davis slips to fifth; Charlie White earns a perfect 10" but with different numbers - Charlie was supposed to get the 40 they ended up giving James. No, I don't have any proof -- it's just the story I made up to fit the facts as they presented themselves to me.

I totally agree - I'm betting they'd planned to give him 10s after the dress rehearsal. Is that why they marked Meryl down? Seems like feeling they had to mark Charlie down might have blown their script..

I used to love Drew - Two things are turning me off. 1) Not his fault I suspect, but the judges doing the "most entertaining" showmanship line on him sounds like how he was pegged when cast -- he hasn't given them anything else to hang a hat on, so they stick with this line despite the fact that the only dance he's really shown any of that in was his dance with Witney and 2) his obliviousness to Cheryl's feelings is ridiculously tone deaf What is he thinking?

This is how I interpreted the Tony/NeNe sitch. Edit Monkeys surprised them by manipulating comments meant to be funny and twisting everything to look much more ill-humoured than it was. NeNe was blindsided because of how negative and unpleasant it appeared. She had trouble being the authentic character in the dance as a result (I think she went from totally shocked by the knowledge that tptb were happy to sacrifice her) which added to the feeling of unpleasant doom permeating the studio. She eventually clicked into the dance as done in dress rehearsal. Later, once she started crying. she was completely unable to stop due to the emotional shock of her package. How did you all see it?

I know we're doing things differently here, but I'm pretty sure that almost nothing counted as a spoiler for DWTS on TWoP. I liked it that way, myself.

Your opinion, legaleagle53, is why I suggested a separate thread for that purpose. Then, when there's an issue of b-on-b, those people who are interested can adjourn to another room. There have been many many times when I have wanted to discuss another's board's viewpoint on an issue -- maybe if we started it differently, and profitted from past experience, we might stay free to do so.

On AfterBuzz, Artem had some interesting remarks re: the differences between Val's AT with Meryl and Maks's foxtrot with same. He was completely blown away by the foxtrot. As was I. I love Val and barely like Maks, but I feel in my gut that foxtrot was better than it got credit for. I think Val and Meryl are more striking together and I'm sure they could develop chemistry if they thought it was appropriate to.