mostlylurking

What an interesting question. It’s impossible to know of course, but I kind of feel like he wouldn’t have done as much damage as he’s doing this time around. He and his cronies have had four long years of resentment and hatred building up, and also four years to plan the most unhinged comeback ever. I don’t think certain people would have been in his cabinet had he won consecutive terms. And the best thing….he would be done and couldn’t run again.

Yep…..even if it isn’t just the fact that this sounds totally plausible is terrifying.

If this had happened during Biden's term Republicans would already be filing articles of impeachment because it happened on his watch. I know Dems are in the minority right now but they at the very least need to be on the record saying how careless and dangerous this was. Both things should be happening simultaneously. This is making me crazy. Dems should not be waiting for official orders, they should be out there loudly condemning this whether they have any authority to change things or not. They are still not getting it 🤦🏻‍♀️

I thought I’d add my little escapism viewing as well. I started watching Call the Midwife on Netflix which is excellent. I’ve also started watching classic Hallmark movies, the old ones are actually pretty good (nothing wrong with the new ones either for that matter). I saw a really good one with Keri Russell and Skeet Urlich today.

And it's been only 2 months. What will happen to our blood pressure during the next 4 years? I keep thinking this too. It’s only been two months. Surely he can’t keep up this pace of destruction…can he???

This is true and also infuriating. I live in a red state that voted progressively on many issues (abortion rights, legalizing marijuana among other things) but still went republican on the actual candidates. Why?

Once they started talking about rules, I started to think it was her. She’s all about rules. I think Allie asking out Molly “as friends” was adorable.

I listened to a podcast where some lady (single, mid thirties, childless) pretty much did exactly this and admitted it. She voted Trump because she worked in the auto industry and had just gotten laid off. She thought Trump would be best for her interests and acknowledged that was selfish. We are in a me culture and to heck with everyone else. Sad. I’ll drop it after this but this was kind of my point when I said I understood why people don’t vote. People are fucking exhausted and yes some don’t give a shit anymore. Yelling at them that they are stupid morons probably won’t help. But I honestly don’t know what will. Something that won’t ever happen here but probably would help with the political fatigue is to shorten the election cycle. I forget which country but somewhere in Europe they have limited campaigning for office to three months prior to the election. So they advertise and campaign and do all the things within that time frame. Here, it never ends. It is exhausting and sometimes people lose interest. Not saying that’s right, but it does happen and I don’t know what to do about it.

Yes, I think he would. He’s a man. He might be gay, but he’s still a man. I still think it will need to be someone more moderate to just give us the White House back and go from there. We have been set back decades which is devastating but burying our heads in the sand won’t help.

I wanted to get excited about him during the 2020 primaries but couldn't. There's just something about him that can't hold my interest. I feel the same. I like him and he’s from my home state. I actually met him once and he was very down to earth. But something about him is just very….meh. But he’s infinitely better than Schumer so there’s that.

That’s probably true. It’s not that she lacked substance, but there was just not enough time to build the case. I blame Biden and all of his apologists for not dropping out sooner, or better yet not running in the first place. That hurt her massively. I would love a progressive candidate and I would love a woman candidate. But look where we are. I think we are very far from someone like that.

Yikes. I don’t know if maybe you misunderstood what I said. My coworker didn't vote. She’s not surprised by any of the things Trump has said and done, which no one should be since he has shown us and never tried to hide what type of person he is. Somehow, people still seem surprised which baffles me. She just couldn’t bring herself to vote for the other side. That’s what I meant by not having “buyers remorse”. I did vote because I have a daughter and voted for who I thought was the lesser of the two evils. However I feel when people vote this way, not actually voting for someone but rather against someone else, they aren’t invested and easily swayed. I haven’t really been inspired to vote since Hilary in 2016. I still do it, but I understand why people don’t.

The actual people in power who refused to listen to the public.

I voted for Kamala although she lacked substance and I wasn’t happy about it. A better candidate in this climate would have been a middle of the road man. As a woman it pains me to say that but let’s be real that’s the country we are living in right now. I know people who didn’t vote at all and I don’t blame them. They don’t have buyers remorse, they knew Trump was a psycho. Put up someone that the public can get behind. Don’t blame people that didn’t vote because both candidates were shitty. Nothing but excuses, but I’m not surprised because as I’ve said multiple times on this forum the Dems are still playing politics as usual and don’t seem to realize the game has changed.

The number of people not voting especially in swing states decide elections. It happened in 2016 and 2024. There are no perfect candidates. I didn't like Biden but I voted for him because I didn't want Trump again. That is what you do. I know sometimes it seems like voting for the lesser of two evils but when one of the evils is an unhinged dictator I will be pick the lesser evil. I had this very same argument with my husband. He told me people who didn’t vote would be a vote for Trump. Excuse me but it’s not the public’s fault that we only have two choices, and it’s not the public’s fault the Democrats didn’t put up someone stronger. In my opinion it’s just another excuse for the Dems to say hey this isn’t our fault instead of digging deeper and finding out why people aren’t voting for them.