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All last year, Joy complained about Sara hitting her arm. Sara giggled and didn't stop. I'm sure that was the major reason... Joy got sick of being hit and even telling Sara about it repeatedly didn't stop it. So they moved Sara. I'm sure she's afraid of Whoopi and won't be smacking her.

I've been reading lately that Maria Sharapova has been making statements about Serena Williams that have coded racial language in them (just got back from vacation and haven't read the articles referenced). I wonder if someone will bring that up, and what her response will be?

Ah, Suzysite, that makes sense. It just seemed so belittling to see him all laid out like that. (As I said, my reaction to it surprised me, because I'm very pragmatic about death.) Maybe with so many people doing genealogical DNA tests these days, disinterring people will be much more rare in the future.

I lost the last minute of the show, but I saw that the ID of the corpse was indeed Holmes. Gotta feel a bit sorry for Jeff Mudgett, who can't theorize about positive DNA. I was a bit disturbed by seeing the corpse, to be honest. It not only seemed to diminish him (not why I was disturbed, but found my reaction interesting) -- but it seemed so unnecessary to take all his bones and reassemble them. If they were simply "fishing" for DNA, I wonder why complete disinterment was necessary.

In the early 1900s, some Chicago hood decided to steal Lincoln's body and hold it for ransom. It was protected by a single padlock in an above-ground sarcophagus. It never happened, but Robert Todd Lincoln decided to have his father's body encased in cement after that to prevent future idiots from stealing it.

I saw the female cop's disappointment in the recaps when the doctor/neighbor showed her all the bouquets of flowers. That was new to me. I am still giggling from parts of this episode. The stripper's amazement/lust that the gigolo "looked just like a weatherman or something!" And his complete honesty that his "powers' didn't work on a woman who was "more than a five."

I totally missed that. Thank you!

Yes, and it kind of screwed up the narrative at the beginning, where the vending machine guys talk. I enjoyed this episode. Maybe my expectations are getting lower, or it's getting better, but I LOL'd several times. My annoyance was that they didn't even bring out the guest book. I mean, if it's the name of the freakin' show, it needs to make an appearance, right?

Thank you for the family tree, Ananayel. Based on the paperback prices listed on Amazon, I should dig up my book and sell it!

I was trying to look up specifically how Jeff Mudgett is descended from Holmes. I didn't find that, but I did find that the recent exhumation (May 2017) of Holmes' body for DNA purposes was requested by three of his great-great-grandchildren, John, Richard, and Cynthia, all of California. It's very possible Jeff is a nickname for one of the men. If so, he is related to Holmes through his first wife, Clara Lovering. They had a son, Robert. Amazingly, she survived him and lived until 1956, dying at age 96. Interestingly, their son Robert died the same year.

My bet is that if the Devil in the White City movie ever gets made and is a hit, someone will pay the guy for the recordings. But this show is pretty low-rent in comparison.

Thank you, ZoqFotPik. I'm rooting for them, even though I don't like her much. Should be a fun arc.

I'm warming up to this show. I don't think it's one that I'll mourn when it's over, but it's quirky and a fun summer show. It took me a while to recognize Jaime Pressley without Joy's accent, as peeayebee said, but I thought she did a good job as a totally different character. I actually did laugh out loud when her character realized she had been cast as a porn MILF. Was anyone able to catch what the texts between the next-door neighbor and his wife were? I didn't feel like running up to the TV to try to read them. Annoying.

I warmed up to this episode more than the previous ones. It seemed to have the kind of goofy humor I remember from My Name Is Earl, well-intentioned people screwing up because they're basically screw-ups. I agree, this one just ended abruptly. And not to be overly analytical, but I was vaguely offended by Plan B being called a mini-abortion. Twice. As I understand it, it prevents ovulation or prevents implantation. Neither of which is an abortion. Was the boss the guy who played the detective in Dexter?

I'm really squeamish, so once that nasal probe came out, I did a lot of muting, which means I zoned out most of the last four minutes. The priest was the little boy? And this whole thing was an elaborate revenge plot?

I liked the interview with Tom Selleck, but I was greatly annoyed by BaWa. I started watching in 2007, so I wasn't around for the first years. But I found her trolling for compliments ("I'm such a bad journalist that I kept his secret!") and the way she kept interrupting Debbie extremely annoying. And Joy looked older than she does now. Funny to think she had already been living with Steve for nearly a decade when The View started. I wonder what BaWa thinks of Whoopi's getting up to fart mid-interview these days. Honestly, trade Whoopi for Meredith and it would be such an improvement.

Just curious. I didn't read BaWa's book. Did she mention Brooks by name or did people figure it out?

Have to say that last night's episode was a bit of a snooze. When the highlight is a concrete-encased dead pig....

Thank you! I would have forgotten. Looking forward to it!

I guess we are officially on hiatus. My DVR is set to record The View, The Talk, and Jeopardy, new eps only. My upcoming daytime schedule looks very weird without any new episodes showing. I shall work on getting the DVR down to single digit percentages before things start up again.

I'm not a prude, but I was shocked at some of the language. Most of it seemed unnecessary -- the "whee!" factor of getting away with something on basic cable. I loved My Name Is Earl and enjoyed seeing familiar faces, with more apparently coming in future episodes. I wasn't bowled over by these two episodes, but I've set up a series recording. Greg Garcia writing all ten episodes makes me want to watch.

Maxine Waters said something that made sense to me. At least it's a viable explanation for why Trump and everyone is allegedly so caught up with Russia. She said that she believes that Putin wants to get the sanctions lifted so he can drill into the Arctic. She said there were trillions of dollars that could be gained by that. That makes sense -- why there would be so much interest in getting an ally (or many allies) in the White House. Trump of course cannot get American banks to finance his projects, due to five previous bankruptcies, so he gets Russian financing. I don't know if it's true, this theory of hers, but it's the first time I've heard anyone put forth a theory about the why, rather than the what. I'm torn about Whoopi coming back. I've been very vocal that she drives me nuts in many ways -- the bathrobes, the bellowing of "Welcome to the View" so many times that I've taken to hitting the mute key the minute she appears, the accents, the "the thing is" hijacking of any differing opinions, the talking with her mouth full, the contrary "whatever view you happen upon" closing... oh, the list goes on. But in the pro column, this show is better with a steady cast. There isn't the nervousness, the adjusting. The one change -- Friday -- is okay because they all know Paula. We've all seen the train wreck seasons when no one has any idea who will walk out on a given day. And whatever else Trump has done, he has reenergized Whoopi. Stoned, bored, mocking Whoopi makes me want to throw a slipper at the TV. At least now, with someone to engage against, Whoopi is awake and in fighting form. (I'd still rather have Joy as moderator.) Happy break, y'all! (Evil Me wants to type that 30 times to do my Whoopi impression, but I will spare you.)

Could it be that they're going to have a week of boring pretaped shows, trying to fool us, and THEN announce they're on break?

Oh, man, this brought back a few days of grade school Chicago Civics lessons! Every CPS kid learns about this at some point, and usually it gets repeated in high school as well. I can't tell you the scientific details, but it has to do with a series of locks being built, and the Sanitary & Ship Canal being built alongside the River to divert water. If you've ever read Sara Paretsky, a lot of her books mention the Sanitary & Ship Canal on the South Side. Here's a "lite" version of the explanation. I am watching because I attended a reading Jeff Mudgett did a few years ago about discovering his ancestor was HH Holmes. Deep family secret. He does seem to have made his heritage his life's focus. I don't for a minute believe Holmes was Jack, but it's a fun summer show (gory photos notwithstanding). Chicago is fairly fascinated with its own mythology, so I would have loved to have them excavate the Post Office parking lot. My money is on Walter Sickert being the Ripper. Patricia Cornwell came up with some very convincing arguments. But as someone said above, I'm watching this for entertainment, not research.

MachineGunMouth Jedidiah actually described herself as "overly polite" and says she's annoyed by people "going on and on"? That's someone who has no self-awareness. When she gets into auctioneer mode and doesn't let anyone get a word in edgewise until she runs out of breath, someone needs to remind her of this.