Demented Daisy
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8 minutes ago, Idahoforspn said:
Creative writing could have kept DemonDean in fanfiction without making HIM a joke.
I was responding to catrox's suggestion that they make Sam summoning Demon Dean into "the best running joke in the entire series". So, yes, IMO, it would have made Demon Dean into a joke, which I find highly distasteful.
I am grateful that the storyline was kept to 3 episodes. Always have been, always will be.
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I don't understand why people are blaming the Lucifer storyline for Mark Sheppard's departure from the show.
Isn't it possible that they have known for months that Sheppard wanted to leave, which was the catalyst for the continued Lucifer storyline? Isn't it possible that Pellegrino was elevated to regular as a replacement after the fact instead of before?
Isn't it possible that Jared, Jensen, and Misha have kept mum about Sheppard leaving the show because they feel hurt? Maybe they didn't want him to go and don't want to make him look like a bad guy for wanting to move on?
Long story short (too late!), it's way, way, way too early to know what happened.
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18 hours ago, catrox14 said:
This would have been AWESOME.
Or the reverse, demon!Dean didn't want to hunt and he'd keep being summoned by Sam LOL. They could have put demon!Dean into Fan Fiction by having Sam summon him right when he's in the middle of singing karoake. This could have been the best running joke in the entire series.
As a Dean fan, I would have absolutely HATED that. Making a joke of Dean being a demon, his greatest fear? Makes my stomach turn. Talk about disrespecting the character....
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Once they got the bunker, I always thought that Kevin (instead of being on Garth's boat) and Castiel (instead of being... wherever he was) should have been holed up in a quiet corner, away from prying eyes, doing research. Then it would be much (IMO) more natural for Sam/Dean to stroll into the kitchen/living area and say something like, "That guy won't stop until he's found what he's looking for." Or something else that would indicate that Sam/Dean was just talking to said person off-camera. I've also thought that, during these world-ending crises, they should move everyone into the bunker, but perpetually off-screen. Just makes more sense to me that way, instead of Sam and Dean hopping in the car and driving three states over to talk to someone. *shrug*
But the show hasn't listened to me about that stuff before. Why start now? ;-)
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I'd say so. ;-)
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The name Jack has a lot of evil connotations as well: Jack the Ripper, Springheel Jack, Jack Torrance (The Shining), Jack Frost....
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12 hours ago, CluelessDrifter said:
Yeah, I do. It was completely genuine.
Okie dokie. You asked for it. ;-)
Sam is very much like me. I, too, was considered the "smart" younger sibling, the one who was expected to do so much (my father once suggested I go to the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland and become the first female Navy Admiral *eye roll*), who became a disappointment when I dropped out of college, got married, and had a kid. I was the one who rebelled against my parents plans for me.
So, yeah, when I started watching SPN, Sam bored me. I knew that story. I knew what choices he would make, how he would lash out at John, blah blah blah. Dean was more a mystery to me. Plus, he made me laugh. That's always a good thing in my book. :-)
Years later, Dean is still my favorite, but Cas is getting closer to taking that spot. Dean doesn't make me laugh as much as he used to. Plus, he's straying awfully close to "alpha male moron" in recent seasons. IMO, of course.
ETA re: flaws
While Dean is my favorite character, I don't pretend his flaws don't exist. Nor do I excuse them. Nor do I get angry when the writers use those flaws to forward the story. It's all part of storytelling and having flawed heroes as the main characters. I do not believe that Sam or Dean are "Mary Sue"s. I think the story would suffer immensely if they were.
For context, I "blame" Dean for taking the Mark of Cain. I don't "blame" the writers because Dean is flawed. I need Dean to be flawed for him to be a compelling character. The characters have to make mistakes for decent storytelling. I would get so bored if Dean did the right thing or made the right decision every time; never got knocked down in a fight; or never got outwitted by a bad guy. Where's the dramatic tension in a story like that? Yes, I know that Dean will "win" in the end, but how does he get there? That's the story I want to see.
Honestly, I don't get the concept of "blaming" the writers when Dean makes a mistake. I get blaming the writers when the writing is bad, but Dean being human, with human flaws, is not bad writing, IMO.
17 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:Of course I don`t think Dean is propped, not even if I squint really, really hard.
I don't think either character is "propped". To be propped, one must not be able to stand on one's own. I would never say that about Sam or Dean's characters.
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24 minutes ago, CluelessDrifter said:
I don't know that it's necessarily balanced, but what I would like to know is what it is that draws us to one or the other. There has to be some kind of reason why we sympathize with one more than the other, why we write flaws in one off as writing fails instead of intrinsic parts of the character, deny that said flaws even exist, defend the flaws, or accept the flaws and love the characters despite them.
Do you really want to know? If you really want to know, I'll tell you why I prefer Dean over Castiel over Sam. If it was rhetorical, I'll go back to packing. :-)
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Never mind. I don't want to get dragged into this argument.
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I feel bad for Ruth. All this talk of Mark and Misha and she's been (pretty much) ignored....
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Still no clue.
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The spin off should be called "Everybody Loves Baby". ;-)
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2 hours ago, RulerofallIsurvey said:
After 13 seasons, is there really such a thing as a casual fan any more? ;)
I could make that argument work the other way too. A true casual viewer (if such a thing exists for SPN) imo probably wouldn't tune in primarily for the secondary characters, especially since there is no guarantee of seeing them week to week, so it would be harder to get invested in them that way. Therefore, the death of Crowley wouldn't make much difference. ::shrugs::
That would be my husband. :-D If we watch live, he watches with me. If we dvr it, he's good with me telling him what happened. He still hasn't seen a complete season since 6.
That being said, if Jodi dies, he has repeatedly said that would be the end of the show for him. ;-)
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More anecdotal evidence about Mark Sheppard:
While talking to my sister about the finale, she made a comment that Mark had mentioned at a few cons over the past few years (she regularly goes to the Nashville cons and has been to the Dallas a couple of times) that he would like to go back to Dr. Who. *shrug*
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3 hours ago, catrox14 said:
I just don't understand why Jensen would put the Brewery over directing an episode
Because the brewery is (potentially) a long-term investment that's much closer to home? That could still be around once he stops show biz, so he needs to focus on its launch?
Just a thought.
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1 hour ago, DittyDotDot said:
Table for three?
Four!
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No idea.
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Correct!
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Yes: T, R, I, L, M, E, C
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Heck. Excelsior!
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Incredible! Lucky! Marvelous!
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Sorry had to pick up my daughter at the airport. :-)
Tremendous!
D'oh!
Remarkable!
Sorry.
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Nothing? C'mon, somebody ask for a letter! It's a good puzzle, I promise! :-)
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It's kind of my thing. ;-)
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“Bitch” Vs. “Jerk”: Where We Discuss Who The Writers Screwed This Week/Season/Ever
in Supernatural
Starts on page 23 of the Bitterness thread. BTW, I'm not doing the rest of season 12. I'm not doing any additional seasons. I don't need the stress. Sorry to everyone who enjoyed my analyses.