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  1. 11 hours ago, magdalene said:

    What M'Benga did here creates an eventual exit story for the character, which makes me sad as I really like him. I haven't seen much of original recipe Trek and I don't remember well what I have seen.  Next Generation was "my" Trek when I was a child. But I do know that they will eventually have a different doctor.  This is all getting bitter sweet for me.

    We know from TOS that at some point he goes to study on Vulcan (presumably leaving Enterprise to do so) and becomes an expert on Vulcan physiology (and my head canon is now he also goes there hoping to learn some emotional control practices to help with his PTSD).  He then later returns to Enterprise and serves as some kind of assistant to McCoy (we see M'Benga in two TOS episodes).

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  2. I saw this online elsewhere and thought it was a great point about Pike looking the other way at the end:

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    My take on the subject is that Pike’s own argument defeated itself. M’Benga, to me, was flat out confessing to Pike without precisely saying the words and Pike knew it. However, Pike’s argument is that a murderer going free if he does good things is superior to a murderer being punished.

    So, what the hell is his argument for arresting M’Benga then?

    M’Benga as a doctor who has saved countless lives and will save countless more. Arresting him would only stop him from doing so.

    So Pike had no choice but to leave in order not to be a monstrous hypocrite.

     

     

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  3. 49 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    What about Mariner makes her "uniquely not suited to live action Trek"?

    Agreed.  Her not fitting into SNW isn't animated vs. live-action.  It's "goofy show featuring unimportant characters" vs. "more serious show featuring important people who run the ship".

    I think she (and Boimler and the rest of them) would do fine in a live-action Lower Decks

  4. 8 hours ago, EllisCarver said:

    She's not suited for live action Trek because a "too cool for school" character would never work on the bridge. Which is what makes her perfect for the world of Lower Decks where that persona is perfectly acceptable.

    I don’t think it’s live action vs cartoon. I think it’s “lower decks mostly not too important people” vs “bridge crew who are the people running the ship”.

    So I think she’d be fine in a live-action Lower Decks. But not in a live-action (or animated) SNW.

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  5. 1 hour ago, greekmom said:

    Not going to watch next week's episode.

    Next week’s is NOT the musical. That’s S2E9 on Aug 3, from what I understand.

    42 minutes ago, tv-talk said:

    Why is that? I just saw the preview for the musical episode....uh yeah. Gotta say I was hoping for more of a season long arc with regards to the Gorn. Oh well.

    I’ll take cartoon crossovers and a musical episodes over some tiresome arc with the xenomorphs…I mean Gorn…any day and twice on Sundays.

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  6. I loved DS9.  It was my second favorite behind TOSSNW  is currently 3rd but may well move to #2 if it can keep things up.

    I can't really do rewatches.  Part of me wants to rewatch DS9, but I just cannot summon the energy (or time) to watch years of 26+ episode seasons.

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  7. 5 hours ago, marinw said:

    Oh Number One, when your Engineer gets a "funny feeling" or somesuch best to respect their instincts. Scotty and LaForge were (will be?)  great examples. There was that great talk between Geordi and Data in "The Defector" of how instinct and gut feelings are the result of all you experience and knowledge, not a contradiction to hard facts.

    Or Scotty in "That Which Survives".  Enterprise would have blown up if he didn't pay attention to his instincts.

    2 hours ago, Starchild said:

    One of my guilty pleasures is watching a reaction video on YouTube, where a young person who's never heard music from my generation listens to it for the first time. Their faces when they hear someone like Karen Carpenter for the first time is everything. And inevitably there's the comment about "no autotune back then."

    "Rainy Days and Mondays" reaction videos are awesome!

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  8. 1 hour ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    The other day someone quoted the notion "Vulcans don't lie" on another board I'm on. Well, TOS's primary example o a Vulcan , Mr. Spock, demonstrably lies quite a bit. Off the top of my head, pretending to be a human whose ears got caught in a rice-picker incident, claiming to be a trillium merchant, using the "Vulcan Death Grip" on Kirk, claiming someone has an insect on them before he nerve-pinched them, pretending that he had authorization to take Pike to Talos IV, pretending to be human again in STIV, lying to Starfleet in STVI. 

    Not to mention "The Enterprise Incident" where he did nothing but lie!

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  9. My issue, canon-wise, is that SNW makes the TOS versions of its characters look like incompetent fools.

    Like no one recognizing T'Pring in "Amok Time" or knowing Spock's relationship to her.  No one showing much of a reaction when they're told Kirk is fighting a Gorn (you know, this brutal race that the Federation is terrified of less than 10 years before "Arena"). No one knowing who Khan is in "Space Seed" until they look him up.  And so on.  It's either non-Prime, or they all get mindwiped just before Kirk takes over, or they're incompetent idiots.

    I can live with stuff like Spock and Chapel knocking boots at the end of "Charades".  He was still rattled from the whole de/re-Vulcanization process and the act itself doesn't contradict anything seen in TOS.

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  10. 57 minutes ago, Sandman said:

    But I agree; more and more, it seems the only way this show works, or at least, is enjoyable to me, is as an AU. 

    Bingo.  I've finally made that mental transition and I believe it will let me enjoy the show more.

    58 minutes ago, Sandman said:

    Korby does exist: Unless I’m mistaken, those were his principles of archeological medicine that Christine had to memorize. (Does that mean he and Christine are of different generations?)

    Certainly in "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" Korby was noticeably older than Chapel.

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    • I've made my peace with SNW not being in the Prime timeline, whatever the showwriters might (falsely) claim.
    • I loved the final seconds of the cold open! The reveal, the camera shot, the music. Very TOS-y vibes.
    • If a transporter can split Kirk into good and evil duplicates I can't really complain about aliens de-Vulcanizing Spock now can I?
    • Chapel, Chapel, Chapel. You never did try sulphur and heat did you. 😉
    • Apparently even aliens have lousy customer service call centers
    • Loved the scenes of the officers trying teach hu-Spock how to be Spock.
    • I wonder if those were the actual prosthetics that Peck wears.
    • No Pelia 😢
    • Some nice scenes between Spock and his mom, especially when he realizes what she's had to go through her whole time on Vulcan.
    • Not a fan of the Chapel/Spock love thang.
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  11. 50 minutes ago, PurpleTentacle said:

    The answer is that these writers don't give a fuck about canon.

    Well, that was crystal clear from the moment Chapel saw T'Pring or everyone saw the Gorn back in season 1.

    (Unless the crew all suffers traumatic brain injuries or gets memory-wiped right before Kirk takes over command of Enterprise.)

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  12. That struck me as the epitome of middle of the road Season 3 TOS:

    * Interesting concept
    * Good work from the primary guest star.
    * Enh to good work from the regulars
    * Some WTFs
    * Decently engaging in the moment
    * Totally falls apart once any thought/reflection is applied to it.

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  13. 9 hours ago, tv-talk said:

    That said though, yeah so much ridiculous stuff it required complete and total suspension of disbelief.

    This ep would have fit in perfectly in TOS season 3.

    1 hour ago, KeithJ said:

    So pretty much everything that happens to the ship happens during Alpha shift.  The other two shifts must be really really boring.

    Someone should do a show about that…

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  14. On 7/2/2023 at 11:07 AM, starri said:

    For my money, the best of the fan series was Star Trek: New Voyages and its successor Phase II. 

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    The production values were astonishingly high.  Enterprise even ended up borrowing some of their props for the Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly" and turned around and gifted them some of their props, including the pencil sketches of the previous Enterprises that were in Archer's ready room.

    Sadly, this all got squashed by CBS after a bunch of idiots decided to make a fan film that they could profit off of.

    While the fan production is sadly dead, thanks to an asshole grifter elsewhere with the initials A.P., New Voyages turned their sets, with the blessing of CBS/Paramount, into a tour you can visit in Ticonderoga, NY.

    On 7/2/2023 at 2:18 AM, SVNBob said:

    I was aware of Vic being problematic (at best). 

    That's putting it lightly!

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    So for me, ST Continues is a definite case of separating the art from the artist. 

    Yep. 

  15. Re: Rebecca vs Nate

    I think the big difference is that with 1st season Rebecca it was "it's not personal, it's just business".  With the attempted fake sex scandal thing she wasn't doing it with the goal of hurting Ted per se.  She wanted to hurt the team and Ted was just collateral damage.  Whereas Nate was very specifically trying to hurt Ted.

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