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Shadows, angles, and hair covering it - she looks pretty much the same from her recent posts on FB

Well I think the reality is that she has very limited choreography that she can do. What I did find "nice" in this video that the couple minutes of dancing at the end was uncut. Usually her videos are spliced together. It blows my mind when she does the "sit up" and smiles like it was an accomplishment.

Will was not the trainer shown last year. :)

It still looks so.... disheveled to me. Maybe it is because it is intended to look like folks are off of the street and you do not need to do anything special to work out. Which is a pretty decent message but I fail to see what a super morbidly obese woman who obviously can't control her own lifestyle can teach me (other than never get that big)

At first I thought it was just an editing ploy - but then I remembered in season 1 her dad basically forced her to clean out her filthy car. Then I saw the stains on the floor board and I realized, yup just like in most things in her life she is beyond lazy.

*LOL* I was trying to figure out... so why should be proud of her? Because she bought only one massive cookie? or because she had only eaten a little bit so far? I also gagged looking at the bottom of her truck floor. So you have milky coffee beverages just sitting in a hot car? Are you that pathetic and lazy you can't empty the trash from your car?

This is why I use small bowls and small plates to eat my meals. I also use smaller spoons so I don't shovel food in my gullet like we saw with Whitney. Next, measuring cups and measuring spoons are some of my best friends. Tonight I had some home made mac and cheese - I measured out 2/3 of a cup of the dish and then had 2/3 of a cup of soup. I ate slowly and I was super full. I do the same with the milk in my coffee, cheese, etc. It is amazing how just changing your portion sizes works - my mom has a lot of mobility issues due to needing both a hip and knee replacement (this week she has not been able to do any of her workouts - using a seated desk sized elliptical machine since her knee break broke and we are waiting for a new one to come in) but she has still managed to lose 3 pounds in the past 2 weeks.

I believe you are right. I used to watch another reality show, Dance Moms, and when one of the moms started sued the show or Abby Lee a copy of her agreement with Lifetime was made public (it was a few years old). I calculated early on that the moms were bringing in a heft 6 figure salary NOT to mention the other "perks" (the signings, the events and appearances). I imagine for someone like Whitney who has been barely making any kind of living this is the best ride EVER. 6 months filming being made to feel like she is a star, special paid appearances, selling her book, appearances on various television news channels, etc. This is like winning the lottery for her. So sure, every once in awhile you will be made to look like an idiot or hypocrite, but the blindness sheep who follow you can be told that it was an unfair edit, that people are so mean to you, that you get constantly bullied, blah blah blah. So if Whit is getting paid anything like the woman from Dance Moms - here is a breakdown of "fees" and payments Episodic Fees: 6935.00 per episode (for Dance Moms this could be up to 26 episodes so a total of 180,310 Specials Episodes: 10,000 per each "special" (aka reunions Lump Sum Completion Cycle Bonus: 40,000 Lump Sum Completion Cycle Bonus the next season: 60,000 One Day Holiday Special 12,500 Clothing Allowance: 3,500 Babysitting Allowance: 300.00 weekly (even though Whitney doesn't have a kid I thought this was interesting to add so people could be aware of ALL the types of payments that can be in this type of contract) Licensing Fees for Merchandise, etc: 1% of 100% gross revenues So if you add up these fees, this Dance Mom was making well over 300k for 2 seasons (probably more since Season 3 and Season 4 had more than 26 episodes). So although we don't know what Whitney is making we do know she recently bought the house used in filming (she advertised this on her FB) and being familiar with the area I imagine that house was anywhere from 220k-290k which would require her making more than a few thousand to be able to purchase that on her own. Suffice it to say, Whitney is making more money (even if she is no where making as much as what we saw from the Dance Moms contract) than what she would conceivably be able to make in ANY job based on her skill set and lack of real career focus since graduation.

So I posted this in another thread, but I read a thread not too long ago on Reddit asking people who have worked on reality shows how real or unreal they were... buried in the comments was the following: "Some experience with a show that portrays a very large woman doing all kinds of active, artistic, and fun things. Some of it is actually true but they have to edit out some really crazy looks people give and even some mean comments by passerbies. They also said she was not as popular as the show made it seem as everyone was being paid to treat her affectionately and kind when really people thought of her as disgusting and ridiculous." So I think between the post that Kerryn had to delete about Whit smoking a full pack a day and being told by several people in production as well as how Whit is the literal and figurative cash cow makes me think that TLC crew really finds her gross and unlikable as well as many of her "friends"

Remember we see an edited 40 min or so that is probably out of hours of footage. Whitney is like any other reality star. She needs the paycheck. So she is going to go along with out any of the scenarios. I imagine she thought this was her "moment" to show how hateful so many people are towards her and didn't really know how it was going to be edited at the end of the day.

Due to PCOS I have an endocrinologist so I know with all of my thyroid tests that my thyroid is functioning well. What I did pay for our of pocket was having my RMR metabolic rate measured at an athletic lab. Based on my weight, height, and age my predicted RMR was a few hundred points higher than what is reality. I now know my RMR is quite a bit lower than things like Myfitnesspal and other calculators say so I had to re-arrange what I consumed in the day. I also work out with a heart rate monitor so I know the reality of what I really burn at the gym or any other excercises. The machines at the gym and online calorie excercise logs vastly overestimate how many calories I REALLY burn. I.e. I do not burn over 500 calories in a 1/2 hour on the elliptical it is really around half of that. I lose weight consistently about a pound a week on average. It is not fast and I have changed a lot more about my eating habits. I practice portion control, intermittent fasting (helps to burn fat reserves) and eating slower (stomach has opportunity for my brain to know I'm full). I don't refuse any type of food but I don't seek out higher carb or higher fat foods either.

Seeing how she eats the cake (and even to a lesser degree the birthday dinner) and even the times she is sitting in her car eating - she reminded me of My 600 lb Life. To me that shoveling and just GET IN MY MOUTH NOW mentality is so indicative of a binge eating disorder. No wonder why she is hungry, your stomach never gets a chance to tell your brain HEY I AM FULL! It takes supposedly around 15 minutes for that to register. Interestingly, I failed to see my own fatlogic for YEARS until one day something clicked while I was watching My 600 Lb Life. I saw how grotesque (there is really no other word) those people were when they were eating. It was almost as if they were eating on a conveyor belt - a constant circle of food in the gullet and more on the fork before they had even chewed the mouthful that they already had. I realized shockingly I did that too. I CONSUMED my food with a viciousness that I had never realized. Now my heaviest I was 288 lbs and I thought I was constantly eating at that weight. I can't fathom how much someone that is 350+ is eating. I realized that when I was eating out with friends, I could NEVER finish my meal it was because I spent so much more time socializing and talking to where my belly could tell me I was full. Seeing it so exaggerated on shows like My 600 Lb Life made me really examine myself. I couldn't hear it from other people. I had to REALIZE it. Now, I adhere to very strict portions. I force myself to put my spoon down after each bite and to just chew and swallow before quickly shoving more in my mouth. Now I get full. I don't binge any longer. I *get* where Whitney is at. She doesn't want to acknowledge that her being close to 400 lbs is REALLY HER. You can try to pretend all day long it is PCOS or whatever else, but the reality is that PCOS and even hypothyroidism is NOT going to pack on well over 200 lbs of excess weight. I wish she would see the light. I was there for a few years. My PCOS was my excuse as to why I just couldn't lose weight when in reality my behavior was so much more the problem.

I will say I also wonder. I was looking through her instagram and some of season 1 photos - she looks heavier to me but I wonder if it is because this season she really doesn't seem to put much of an effort into her appearance. She is constantly in work out clothes, sweaty and greasy - no make up. I mean I am about to head out for a violin lesson all sweaty and in workout clothes but I also just finished an hour workout with my trainer and then some cool down exercises afterwards so I am running very short on time. It is not my "standard" for how I dress out in public all the time.

FYI not radio station interns but numerous production assistants on the actual show. :) aka people who are around Whitney for good chunks of the day filming.

Lord she looks horrific. I guess being super morbidly obese is fabulous. I will say this episode was a little more draggy than others. Even if Lennie's house is on the way to her internship, the way she kept OVER AND OVER saying how it was on the way made it sounds like she was more nuts. I love Will Powell - I am half tempted to find out if I can figure out what he charges for some sessions!

I think media plays a huge role not in weight as much as painting a very unrealistic view of women and men period. The airbrushing, the smoothing of any cellulite, normal skin rolls, etc. It is all the problem of making people think if I get to almost the underweight BMI i will be as smooth and flawless as Giselle. No, you won't because you don't have the perpetual Photoshop brushes walking with you each step. Even with the plus size models you see such as Tess Holiday the amount of editing to make the photo is unreal. So it happens big or small. And since that is not so obvious, it makes it seem like oh if I eat 2 egg whites a day and work with a trainer then I too can look like Jennifer Anniston.

I don't think it is socially programmed as much as it is programmed as a base instinct. People are attracted to healthy looking people. From a heterosexual standpoint at a very instinctual level men are attracted to healthy women who can best procreate. A malnourished female is no more attractive to the average man than a morbidly obese woman - why? because neither one is healthy. I remember the nasty flack that gone thrown to Calista Flockhart during her days of Ally McBeal. People constantly talked about her weight, how she must be anorexic, etc - she did actually admit to going through a bout of anorexia during the filming of that series. I think thinner people also get as much comments made to them but I think it is somehow more acceptable. I have a friend who has always been close to underweight her entire life (with no boobs and no butt). She has no eating disorder, she runs A LOT, and yet people have constantly tried to intervene or made very rude comments to her. The same with a previous coworker (although based on my understanding she did have some disordered eating patterns). How many times have people said about models or some actresses to eat a sandwich or a burger? I go back to being more acceptable to make comments towards the thinner because their lives may NOT be impacted physically as an obese person. Being thin, you are not going to struggle with clothes options (everyone struggled with finding something flattering for their shape but the thin undoubtedly have an easier ability to try MANY more stores than say an obese person), they are not going to get a stink eye on an airplane because they may spill in someone's seat, the doctor may not completely think of weight as one of the first issues with a medical exam. Going back to the healthy piece, especially with everything we know in the modern society (I say this because maybe in the Amazon or some remote sub-Saharan village there may be people who do not understand long term impacts to health of being way too overweight), someone who is packing on an extra 50+ lbs is not going to appeal to the inner base instinctual preference for healthier. If we completely ignore the comorbidities to obesity that people dislike talking about (heart disease, diabetes, some cancers, nasty things such as pseudo tumorcerebi) and just look at the impacts to joints, you can't hide your head in the sand and pretend that obese individuals present the vision of healthy or if they are "healthy" at this point in time that that "health" will continue onward without any impacts as the person ages. Just like, no one is going to look at for the most part a starving Calista Flockhart in the height of her Ally McBeal days and think she is the vision of health either.

You can eat anything but it is all in moderation. Yesterday my mom wanted fried chicken. Well we just didn't eat anything else during the day and I got us 4 chicken fingers, french fries, and a biscuit. I even had a donut. We don't eat like that everyday - when I calculated the calories it was about 1400 calories total. In my past, I would have eaten that for dinner, still had some lunch, probably some breakfast, and definitely a calorie drink from like Starbucks. I have a baby foal who I visit daily to instill some small doses of training (how to get rubbed, how to have her feet picked up, how to get used to clippers, etc) and it is wicked hot outdoors. So sometimes for lunch instead of eating like a lunch lunch, I grab an ice-cream soft-serve cone that is 260 calories. It cools me down and it is filling to me. So the same applies to pizza, pasta, etc. You can have ANY of it but you should measure the portion, be cognizant of how much you are eating and budget for it. It is ironically how I have seen my thin friends eat throughout our relationships.

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I think she can squeeze into a 3x that has a lot of spandex in it, but if she had to put on some pants that were a true 22-24 that didn't have the bulk of material being spandex she would NOT fit in them. In season 1 or 2 she had her hips measured and her measuring tape couldn't even stretch across them it was well over 70 inches if I recall. Her waist was also quite bit. I can say at 5'3" and when I was at my heaviest I wore a size 22-24 and my absolute heaviest I have EVER been was 288. Whitney is not the average obese person - she is definitely in the super morbidly obese category which is why I think she goes more to the specialized store when shopping versus the local Lane Bryant, etc.

You can usually find gyms, wellness centers, athletic labs, etc who will test BMR. I had mine tested locally at a lab that caters to athlete performance and nutrition (aka registered dietitians work there). I believe it cost $60.00 and took around 30 minutes (about 20 minutes wearing this mask and sitting and just breathing in a darkened room - the mask reminds me of what you see fighter pilots wear so it covered the mouth and nose). I also got a one on one session with the dietitian to talk about results and what maybe I should do differently if anything. It was well worth the cost since the calculators online are just a smoothed over average for people and not unique to you. Similar to BMI - you can get an approximate from a calculator but if you really want to know your true BMI then a DEXA scan is the most accurate. Fasting took probably about a week or so to get used to it. Dr. Jason Fung also mentions you can consume like a bone broth or something with very few calories if you have some issues in adjusting. I personally didn't need to do that except on the rare occasions when I had a coffee with milk.

My thought is that she dresses in all of those clothes because it is hard for her to find clothes that actually have to "fit." I am thinking at her size she can't fit into any off the rack even at a store like Lane Bryant so she may have more limited options to get clothes that do not stretch and need to be fitted. Some capri workout pants or spandex pants can stretch so much more than a pair of dress pants or khakis (similar to how she couldn't get any khaki shorts when working for the Grasshoppers) or even wear the largest baseball shirt that they had for her closed. (If you notice on the show she had it open as it didn't fit and had a similar colored shirt underneath).

Absolutely. I don't say I follow a diet, I will eat anything. I don't intentionally go after carbs daily (aka if I had a choice I would choose something other than a starchy carb) but I do not avoid them. I don't avoid anything. I eat them in a controlled portion manner. I am not going to go out and buy a huge muffin but if I did have that I sure as heck wouldn't eat the same size lunch and dinner that I would normally have. People who do some drastic "diet" for the weight loss and then think they can go back to eating the way they did before will pack on pounds super fast. Making a lifestyle change and making healthy choices every single day will keep weight off for a lifetime.

It is honestly not that hard. I think for me I always found that if I ate breakfast it was as if I revved up my hunger - I wanted to eat more and more throughout the day. I would then eat lunch, snack on some nuts or cheese, and then dinner, and then maybe some dessert. Whereas now, I don't *feel* that way. Like today, my mom had asked if we could get some fried chicken from a local place (they give you some french fries, with 4 tenderloins, and a biscuit). I also had a donut someone had given me - that was all I ate and even 9 hours later I feel absolutely stuffed. I remember when I could eat SO much more than that.

Well, I took the study with a grain of salt. How many of us are losing weight like the Biggest Loser, where many of those contestants supposedly were encourage to reduce to even less than 1200 calories a day and workout hours and hours during the day? Not to mention that these individuals could not maintain that level of athleticism/working out alone nor could many of them REALLY continue to eat as they had. What concerns me is that people will think "oh well it is impossible to lose weight and keep it off so why bother." Similar to how people think if you don't eat all throughout the day you are going to go into "starvation mode." If human beings were that frail to go into starvation mode, then it is pretty amazing we have made it to the year 2016 as a species since how would a human being be able to access stored fat and energy in order to seek more food in times of famine or need to hunt for more food? So I took the study to mean that if you do some significant starvation, fad diet, with crazy levels of burning the few calories you get you can TRULY damage the body. Something else, although people say they "eat" healthy there is a difference between "eating healthy" and eating at a calorie deficit. These people were not continuously monitored in a metabolic lab with their diets as carefully tracked so similar to how Whitney swears she doesn't eat all the time, I don't think we can confidently say how many calories they were truly maintaining a day post their appearance on the tv show. I don't know if I have metabolic damage but I did have my BMR tested within a lab setting and although the anticipated results based on the various calculators out there had me having a suggested BMR anywhere from 1600-1900 calories a day, my real measured BMR was 1409. If I solely relied on the online calculators I would be potentially be eating at a higher amount daily (combined with my workouts) that I would not be getting a true caloric deficit to lose weight. One thing that has helped me is the combined research that Dr. Jason Fung has been analyzing and reporting. Basically, I follow an intermittent fasting plan and portion control. I only eat during the hours of 1pm - 8pm - there is at least one day a week where I fast from one dinner to the next (aka almost 24 hours). A "snack" may be an apple but in general I do not snack. I measure portions and I do at least a 45 min workout 5-6 days a week. Basically the idea with intermittent fasting is to open the body stores of fat to be used as energy which keeps the metabolism from not being damaged. Here is a really good article where he addresses the Biggest Loser study. https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fix-broken-metabolism/ I did find during my BMR test that I am fat burning during fasting so it seems to be working for me. I have also found it has helped to break a lot of my previous food binging issues. My stomach literally can't hold the volume it used to when I would eat almost all day. I don't feel "hungry" because I have two larger meals versus trying to eat smaller bites throughout the day. Once I got used to it, I have a tremendous amount of energy (I actually workout while fasting) and my body is so much better now telling me "hey I am hungry" or "I am really thirsty."