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I think the backlash has more to do with how they were let go. If it had been Sarah's and Jessica's choice, while fans would have been sad, the anger would not be present. Stacy McKee was in charge for a season or two and turned the show into a mess. Krista was being lauded for righting the ship by quite a few fans during the beginning half of the season. The firings and Jaggie are what have mainly turned the tide against her.

My understanding is that Jerrika's new show was ordered straight to series. So it's a go for at least the first season.

This is a really good point. There is a lot more to diversity than what Grey's Anatomy portrays.

Well said.

You realize POC is different then using the term "colored" right? It feels like you're talking over POCs to prove a point. Alex had an arc and looks like he's getting another one. Owen has an arc that was interrupted by maternity leave for Caterina Scorsone. Riggs had an arc and it looks like it's coming back around. I believe his arc was interrupted by maternity leave for Ellen Pompeo. Interesting you mention Jessica Capshaw last year who was pregnant so that affected her storylines but what about Sara Ramirez (WOC) last season? She was woefully underused for no reason and then Callie was damaged by the custody battle that was used to prop up the other non-POC character in the battle. Jackson had one episode where he got something that was just for him. One. Most often this show uses it's POC characters to prop up the non-POC characters in my opinion. You disagree. I'm not sure why you're set on proving how I feel wrong, but ultimately it is the way I feel about this show.

But again the main focus of Richard's storyline is that he is being pushed aside for another non-POC character. If Minnick stays, what happens to Richard's role once he forgives Bailey which looks like it's coming. Bailey has been damaged badly by this storyline. Beyond the Japril centric episode and snarking at April what has Jackson had to do. Alex had a huge arc to start the season and if those Matthew Morrison pictures mean anything it looks like Alex will have an arc to end the season. Owen and Amelia have their arc which is continuing. Riggs started with his Meredith and Maggie triangle and then there was a lull but it looks like Meredith and Nathan are gearing up again. Beyond this current storyline with her mother what has Maggie had to do with regards to a storyline that was just for her? I'm sorry but your post is coming off as be happy with what you get which I'm sure isn't what you mean. While the cast may be diverse there is room for criticism in terms of how they are utilized.

Actually I kind of get what funnygirl is saying. Most of POCs that they hire now are one offs or have a finite shelf life. Maggie's mother and Wilmer's character were characters that would not go beyond their function. The main cast POCs don't seem to have a lot going on storywise. Bailey drops in as chief every so often, Richard is being shoved aside for another non-POC character, Maggie was set up to provide drama for Meredith and Nathan (she's finally getting a storyline but how long is that going to last once her mother dies?), Jackson only gets a story when there is a Japril centric episode, and Stephanie has been so under utilized Jerrika Hinton finally realized she deserves better. Most of the important storylines are centred around the non-POCs and it seems like the POCs are sacrificed to further those stories. That's just how it feels.

I agree it would be interesting, but I don't think that's where they're going. I think it's just another little argument for Lena and Stef to have to add drama to their relationship.

The only problem is she has also agreed to go along with the shady business of filing for a fake divorce to get out of a legit house sale. She's picking and choosing when integrity applys.

I watched the Stef/Lena integrity scene and was struck by a few things: -Stef is not wrong to want to do the right thing. -Lena is not wrong to want to limit the effect on the family and trying to find a different way to do the right thing. -I think Lena's own moments of compromised integrity (Jude, Brandon) weigh on her. -The main problem with it being a matter of integrity for Stef is that she is vulnerable to Detective Grey because she compromised her integrity for Mike. She's picking and choosing when integrity matters. -Remember when Lena quit because she wanted to defend Jude? Stef gave her a hard time for putting him before the rest of the family.

In terms of Lena's moral code, it's pretty much every character's moral code on this show. She may be the one who verbalized it but they've all done something in line with it. They all do what they have to do for family, be it blackmailing someone's birth father, taking your new foster brother and going to a former foster parent's house to save a brother, etc.

One thing I meant to comment on: Callie/AJ/Aaron - none of them were particularly great in this episode. AJ - I didn't like what he said, but I think it was more due to ignorance than being a hateful asshole. He needs to be educated on trans issues clearly. Aaron - was an asshole to AJ for the most part. He treated AJ poorly simply because AJ is dating the girl he likes. Callie - where do I begin? She allowed Aaron to treat AJ badly without a word. The only feelings she was concerned about were Aaron's. She outed Aaron to AJ. In what way is that okay and she did it in order to shame AJ about his behaviour. AJ was treating Aaron like just another guy. Callie revealing that information makes it seem like he is not just another guy. She's the one who made being trans an issue when it wasn't in any of AJ and Aaron's interactions before.

I'm wondering how Stef is going to react.

They never showed her telling Stef. They were pretty distracted by everything with the house so I think right now Lena is the only one who knows what Brandon did.

I'm actually okay with Lena telling Brandon, simply because she already knew the whole situation. Telling Stef and Mike would open up Brandon to not only learning he lost his dream but also recriminations from his other two parents at the same time. He did bring this all on himself but the gentlest way of finding out that Juilliard was gone was from the parent who had all the facts and wasn't going to go off on him. Having said that, Lena is going to have to explain how she already knew and didn't tell Stef.