Brian Cronin

Is the OTEV curse still a thing?

It's just SO common it is hard for anyone to take it too seriously, ya know?

Tootie also cries on cue!

Oh man, it's great. Can you even IMAGINE a film that lets a little girl be a psychopath like Tootie? It's so cool. Margaret O'Brien is still alive. She was an amazing child actor.

Angela reminds me of the classic scene in Meet Me In St. Louis where Esther's boyfriend, John Truitt, saves Esther's psychopathic little sister, Tootie, from getting caught after she and her other sister, Agnes, threw a dummy in front of a Trolley car, hoping to cause a derailment (it didn't, but it DID break a cable) and for the trolley driver (and all the passengers) to think they just killed a person. John grabbed both of the little girls, and hid them in a woodshed to keep the cops from finding them (there's a great bit where Tootie later mocks his attempt to help, "As if the cops ever pay attention to little girls"). But Tootie bit him, and escaped. She ran home, (she bumped her face on something during all of the commotion) and to thank John for saving her and Agnes, she decided to tell her family that John beat her up for no reason in case he decided to tell everyone what she did. She would rather flip on her ally than risk him burning her, even though he obviously had no intent on betraying her trust. And when Agnes came home and revealed the truth, Tootie just kept on keeping on, no guilt or shame at all. So yeah, you did it, Angela, you earned the first (and presumably only) Meet Me In St. Louis comparison of the season!

I'm sure she didn't think Quinn would be dumb enough to nominate Joseph.

She really IS an amazing trainwreck of a player. That perfectly describes her gameplay, and it is SO MESSY, but SO WONDERFUL, as a result. I think I feel a Meet Me In St. Louis comparison coming...

Yep, she's smart enough to know she really, really didn't need to win HoH this week, and would have been better off NOT winning.

I don't mind "mean girl" stuff that much since it happens to EVERYONE who gets power in this game, but at the same time, yeah, it does make me want to see them deal with SOMEthing to mess up their power, just to see them play on their heels a bit. Chelsie is playing a marvelous game, but Chelsie, to me, was the most interesting when the game was flipped on her, and she fucking NAILED her reaction to the flip, and then got herself right back on top. That sort of badass shit is what I really admire in the greatest BB winners, and I think she's on track to become one of the all-time greats if she pulls this off (and it sure as heck looks like she will at the moment). She can lie like a sociopath, she can mist, she can expertly plan, she can win comps, she's got it all going for her, I'd just like to have her deal with some more adversity to show her amazing game some more. Derrick, for instance, didn't have to do shit for most of BB16. That dude freaked out if he was even in the VICINITY of MAYBE being the SLIGHTEST bit uncomfortable. And it sucked to watch, and it kept Derrick from truly being seen as one of the greats (as the greatest players dealt with adversity like champs). So I'm all for anything that makes Chelsie have to be a bit uncomfortable this week.

After seeing him interact with an actual good HoH, it just continues to amaze me just HOW much Quinn botched his HoH. All to suck up to a group that clearly sees him as essentially expendable. It's stunning just how bad his reads have been in the house. Chelsie is obviously planning a nice, normal HoH (granted, she didn't have AI Arena to deal with, but still), and not some moronic, shoot-yourself-in-the-foot HOH like Quinn and, to a certain extent, T'Kor.

Chelsie has always liked T'Kor, but in the end I don't think she cares THAT much about ANYone, really (which is part of what makes her so badass). But it would make no sense to nominate T'Kor now. As Chelsie noted, T'Kor just kept her off of the block, and is clearly devoted to her, it would be ludicrous to nominate her this week. So I don't think it shows that much one way or the other.

I actually like Chelsie winning this week. She was going to dictate who went out this week no matter what, but this way, she actually has to get her hands dirty a bit. Chelsie's an excellent player, and she'd be an excellent winner, but I always want people to be challenged, ya know? Cakewalks are boring AF.

I just love how bad Quinn is at this game. Nominating Joseph was so, so stupid. Honestly, while it probably won't hurt her, I think Chelsie has gotten a little high on the fact that she controls things, and burned Cam to get rid of Joseph and save Kimo, who she doesn't even care about either way, just sort of to show that she COULD.

You know, I've been getting a kick out of Leah's "femme fatale" game in the house, and using the fact that these dudes want to simp for her to get further in the game, but I was seeing someone online argue about how impressive that strategy is, and, like, I mean, it's FINE, but I don't think it's REMOTELY a WINNING strategy. It's fine for getting into the jury, and if that's what she's aiming for, then fair enough, but I don't think it's a strategy I would recommend overall.

I agree that I want Kimo safe the most, but I think Joseph being in there pissing people off is probably better than Rubina just sort of pleasantly BEING THERE (and I think Rubina is great, but she's pretty boring).

I totally agree at the time that my first reaction was "Tucker must have said something that likely wasn't racist but COULD be taken as racist, so they're covering his ass, and trying to shut this shit down before TMZ makes it a thing." I just think that usually there's SOME sort of follow-up, even if it's brief before the feeds cut out. Telling these people to never discuss something juicy is like herding cats. But it's fair, as you note, that perhaps they just drilled it into them BIG TIME that they better not say a WORD about it.

I'm not saying you're wrong at all, as yes, I could see that happening as well (basically, there's no way for a White person to complain about two Black women having a pact to not go against each other that's NOT going to sound sketchy when you say it out loud), but I just think that it it were Tucker who said it, it would have come up in one of the MANY Tucker-bashing sessions on Thursday and Friday after he was voted out. While with Leah, she's less of a presence, and so it could be swept under the rug much more easily. And with her, too, I'm sure it was just a misconstrued complaint about Chelsie being safe because of the pact rather than an actual slur or anything like that.

Really, good for Leah. If a dude wants to simp for you, go for it.

Chelsie reminds me of Derrick, in that everyone wants to work with her/him just...cuz. I guess she's really just THAT charismatic. Chelsie is fine with Quinn, but he's probably behind Cam, T'Kor, Makensy, and Leah on her list of people she'd protect. The more that I think about it, the fact that he nominated Joseph is just so, so fucking stupid by him. Quinn's reads are amazingly bad. The Cam thing is the crazy thing, though. She's been loyal to him since the VERY FIRST DAY, and very PUBLICLY so, and yet Quinn is, like, "I'm fine here."

What amuses me to no end is that I don't think Quinn really has ANY close allies left, right? Hasn't he basically alienated EVERYONE at one point or another? And the ones he's PRETTY good with have other allies who they're MUCH closer to. Like, for some reason, he thinks he has a solid trio with Cam and Chelsie, which is just MIND-BOGGLINGLY stupid. He thinks he is super close to Leah when he obviously isn't, he thinks T'Kor and Kimo are still with him when they're not. He thinks he is in good with Makensy when she could give two shits about him. He now spent this week burning two people who were pretty loyal to him (Kimo and T'Kor) and one guy who was FAIRLY loyal to him. He's really played a terrible, terrible HoH, and I am here for it.

I ADORE the fact that Quinn had to burn Joseph this week, and he's probably not even going, right?

Chelsie has always liked T'Kor, that was never an issue with T'Kor's devotion to her. It was about T'Kor being way MORE into T'Kor than Chelsie. Chelsie has always liked T'Kor fine, and would protect her as much as she could so long as it wouldn't interfere with her own game. The weird thing was that T'Kor would go BEYOND that.

I still imagine the gears in T'Kor's mind, a la Homer Simpson: "You could be in a women's alliance!" "Aw, a women's alliance, but I just want to protect Chelsie!" "A woman's alliance COULD protect Chelsie." "Explain how!" "Chelsie is a woman, therefore, she could be in your women's alliance." "Woohoo!"

That IS a really weird thing for Angela to say there, though, right?

Agreed, but I bet Leah just doesn't use it.