SourWolf

The allegations have not been proven to be false. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/danny-masterson-rape-allegations No decision has been made yet. Instead, the case appears to have been stalled even though there is allegedly "overwhelming evidence."

Well then I guess we know their real reason for cancelling Hindsight. They wanted to free up the timeslot for another crappy reality show. It's quite idiotic they're claiming they had to cancel Hindsight because television is "over-saturated" with scripted shows when that's even more true for reality shows.

It shouldn't. Filming for season 2 won't start until next spring.

There's lots of scripted shows on other networks, but none on VH1 like you said. So their decision to cancel it is stupid when their statement said scripted shows are a part of their line up. What other scripted show do they have besides Hindsight? Their bajillion crappy reality shows don't count.

Agreed. I really hope Rachel wasn't playing Adam. Currently I still believe she has some redeeming qualities left, but if she slept with Adam just to manipulate him when she knows he considers her a friend I'm going to have a hard time rooting for Rachel from here on out.

This 100%. I just can't get on board with the Jeremy character period because they've failed to explain his point of view. It's hard to like to like somebody when you don't fully understand the reasons for their behavior. I get that Jeremy was supposedly "hurt" by Rachel because she appears to have commitment issues, but all I've seen of their relationship so far suggests to me that Jeremy is more concerned about his wants and needs over Rachel's. For the most part he acts completely disinterested in Rachel's life and what she's going through. She had a mental breakdown on the set of their show. He witnessed it himself yet he didn't even bother to go check up on her when she was away hiding from everybody. She was and still is dealing with some very heavy emotional and mental stuff in relation to her job, but does he act like he cares? No, in almost every interaction with her he's making it about himself. This is probably sounds a little weird, but Jeremy is the least likeable character to me. I think the show is trying to sell him as the "nice and dependable" ex-boyfriend and it's not working for me. He's more like that ex you dump for being a self-involved jerk. Yes, most of the other characters have technically done worse things than Jeremy, but they're at least self-aware of who they are. With Jeremy I feel like he thinks he's the nice supportive boyfriend. He's not.

I didn't misunderstand anything. I knew what you meant.

That's another thing we'll have to choose to agree disagree one because I don't agree with that comparison either. Chet was cheating on his new fiance of a day with a co-worker because he is and will always be a cheating sleazebag.. Rachel isn't in a relationship with anybody. Sure, sleeping with Adam (regardless of what her motivation was) is a bad idea that will probably lead to some consequences for herself if the network bosses or Chet find out, but she wasn't committing a personal betrayal to anyone by hooking up with him.

I guess we'll have to disagree on this because I can't buy that Rachel would go along with blackmailing Adam with a sex tape involving herself. She knows Adam well enough to realize he would never cooperate with her if he were to find out she was involved in a scheme to blackmail him. Adam also said to Anna in a previous episode that he knows there are cameras in their rooms. If he didn't want their hook up filmed, he would have made sure they were disabled first since he stated himself that he knows how to do that. And I disagree that Rachel is like Chet. Unlike most of her co-workers, she actually does feel guilty when she has to hurt someone in favor of the show. Chet and Quinn don't care period. Rachel has had moments where she has chosen the high road (like when she chose to protect Faith's sexuality. She even stood up to Chet when he wanted to us the footage). Quinn and and Chet would have never done that. They would have outed Faith on the show and wouldn't have felt the least bit sorry about it.

I don't think that's the case. Adam and Rachel are both aware that there are cameras in the guest rooms He even told one of the contestants (I think it was Anna) that he knows how to disable the cameras. Adam had already pretty much agreed to do Royal Love at that point so there was no need for Rachel to sleep with him to convince him to do it. Rachel and Adam have also formed a friendship. He sees her as a friend now and trusts her. If her sleeping with him was just another manipulation scheme to get him to do the spin-off show and he found out about it any chance of him trusting her about anything ever again would be completely destroyed. Heck, he'd probably even refuse to do Royal Love. I don't think she slept with him to gain any kind of leverage or power over him. When Rachel manipulates people she's usuall much smarter and smoother than that. Someone else here suggested the idea that Adam and Rachel are in cahoots together and wanted Quinn to find their sex tape. I find that more likely than Rachel playing Adam since he had already more or less said yes to the Royal Love idea after she told him her idea about the vineyard.

She's definitely aware that Chet's a horndog. Chet's soon-to-be ex wife is pregnant so she knows he was still sleeping with his wife while he was also sleeping with her. I think she got caught up in the moment when Chet proposed to her and hadn't had time to consider yet what their relationship would be like when they're married.

It didn't occur to me that Rachel was playing Adam. I thought sleeping with him was her just finally doing something about her growing attraction to him.

Yeah, I'm confused why Quinn sees the sex tape with Rachel as any sort of leverage against Adam. He's already had a sex tape released, was caught sexting his ex, and has been caught with hookers. If none of that embarrassed him then releasing another sex tape of him sleeping with a production crew member won't embarrass him either. Funnily enough, I was actually kind of shocked about Chet sleeping with the PA. I guess I should have seen it coming, but I thought he was really serious about wanting to make a commitment to Quinn. He chose to leave his wife for her which I never thought he'd do. I guess this goes show that Chet will always remain a cheating sleazebag no matter whom he's with.

I've seen both seasons of Challenge: Exes and I don't remember any of the former couples having a history of physical abuse against each other. With that said, The Challenge producers have definitely been known to invite back people who have attacked other competitors on the show. Years ago one of the cast members punched someone in the face and chased him around the house threatening to murder him. A couple seasons later both were paired together for the first "Rivals" season. They also keep inviting back Nia who attacked one of her female roommates on the Real World, tried to get one of her friends to beat up a male roommate, and sexually assaulted said male roommate on the last season of The Challenge. I don't watch The Bachelor so I don't know how similar it is to Unreal in terms of the behind the scenes stuff, but I feel like Unreal is a pretty realistic (and scary) representation of what occurs on The Challenge and Real World sets. There's two rape incidents that occurred during Challenge/Real World filming and in both cases the producers did not want to cooperate with the investigation. That's very eerily similar to Rachel and Quinn choosing not to be honest about the reason for Mary's suicide because they don't want to lose Everlasting.

Part of the reason I've had a hard time warming up to the Jeremy character is because I can't figure out what the writers are going for with him. Is he supposed to be unlikeable? If so they've done a great job because currently I hate him more than Chet. But Freddie Stroma called Jeremy the "nice guy" in one of his interviews. I don't know if that's his own interpretation or if he's been told by the show creators that Jeremy is supposed to be the good guy. I sure hope it's not the latter because I tend to find the majority if his interactions with Rachel quite appalling. He's either telling Rachel everything that's wrong with her or he's cheating on his fiance with her. Rachel needs to tell Jeremy to take a long hike off a cliff.