JapMo

I think if someone keeps having the same bad relationships with men, which Jessica said she has, you would think said person would do a little introspection and ask themselves why they keep hooking up with men that treat them badly. NOT go on a reality show and be paired up with a total stranger. I'm sure it would be an attractive thought to let someone else "scientifically" find your perfect mate, but after you think about it for awhile, no...that's not the way to do it.

Butterbean, you've said what I have thought since they stood on the altar (podium, whatever) and recited their vows. He looked sooo uncomfortable being in the spotlight. He wouldn't look in the camera, which made it look like he was avoiding Jessica. He does not seem like the typical reality show person who loves to air their dirty laundry in public. I think Vaughn was kind of like that. Also, I don't agree that he's not in to Jessica. It seems to me he really likes her. Ryan has got old school tendencies; probably inherited from his grandpa. He is very in to being the man who supports the woman. There's a lot of people who would laugh at that, but it's actually kind of sweet. There's not that many guys who think like that anymore.

I think she does have a soft spot....for Ryan. As goofy as it sounds, I believe these two have the most chemistry between them. Whether it's long-term or about to explode, I see that between them. I still hold to the belief Jaclyn is faking it and telling herself she's falling for Ryan R. And while RR has made many comments that she's very attractive and he wants to consummate the marriage, I still don't see anything more than that coming from him. Can't read Sean & Davina right now. They're both so unusual they might actually be good for each other. Yes, I agree that Jennifer is very feminine and demure. Which surprised me when I read (have not actually seen myself) that she puts a lot of suggestive pictures of herself on Instagram.

Yes, the familial connections with this group of people is kind of confusing. Ryan D idolizes his grandparents and only because she was at his wedding did we even know the mom was in the picture. Where's his real dad or stepdad? Maybe they just didn't want to be on camera. And then (to me) there was that confusing reaction Jaclyn and her sisters had when her father came in to her room right before she got married. She seemed so surprised...like she didn't expect him at all. Top it all off with Davina's family refusing to come to her wedding. Now that's the second time (Courtney being the first) that the family refused to see their daughter wed. It's not like they disapproved of the groom because they didn't know him. Most parents, even if they can't stand who their child is marrying will show up to support them on their wedding day.

If his mom is so normal, why wasn't she raising him? I say that because he has constantly talked about how his grandparents raised him...not babysat him every day while she was at work...but raised him. Where was she in this mix? I'm hoping they stay together, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it either way.

I'm waiting to see why he stormed out. I like them both and think they have a chance (yeah, I know...I'm one of the few), but Jessica has already confided that she has a pattern with men in her life that they cheat or don't treat her right, and I think she's kind of like Jaime (a la the cigarrette issue) that once something happens she blows it up in her head that 'oh, here we go again'.

Something sticks in my mind during her interview with the expert that she said she would NOT leave Manhattan. She was very emphatic about that.

If you're counting one of those 5 arguments as the closet incident, that was so insignificant I wouldn't even call it a difference of opinion. He said he'd like to take the whole closet and she made a choking/sarcastic laugh, and he asked why she was laughing and she just shrugged and then he said did she want some space too, and she wouldn't acknowledge him and it went on that way for maybe 15 seconds. I didn't think his demeanor or the way he sounded would warrant her to bite her tongue for fear of unleashing his anger.

Last time? Wasn't that the only time? One fight and now they're battling 24/7?

I, too, was startled that Jessica complained about the only thing she had in the closet was her wedding dress. I thought...how stupid if you didn't have a lot of space to put the one thing in there that you won't wear anymore. But then I remembered...she's a newlywed. Of course she would do that. It's still very important to her. Give it a few years and she'll realize it just takes up space. One of the posters above said this year seemed different - I agree. It just doesn't seem as interesting. I think it's the selections. They're all OK...but just lacking in something. I think I even like Vaughn & Monet more than any of these couples. I'm still rooting for them, but not as invested. Last year Jason & Courtney had such a sweet romance going on right away, and then you had Jamie being a total bitch to Doug so he was easy to root for. I just remember at the end of the show when they had to make their decisions, I was absolutely convinced Jamie was going to ask for a divorce. If you can call it a nail biter, that was what that was for me. For this year, it's kind of like they selected three strong, dominant people (Davina, Ryan D and Jaclyn) with 3 passive people (Jessica, Ryan R and although he can be pretty strong and dominant too, I'll put Sean in here too because he constantly self-analyzes himself and bends over backwards to be accommodating). And of those 3 passive people, it's like they're generic enough (especially Jessica and Ryan R) to be paired with probably a lot of people. Last year you had a real doormat in Doug, but Jamie, Vaughn and Monet were anything but. Jason and Courtney were so in sync with each other that I wouldn't call them passive or aggresive.

I do not know the man. I do not feel compelled to defend him. This is a show I like and have followed since day 1, and I like to interact with others who also follow the show. I enjoy reading comments on this board because it makes me think and read different opinions. In that vein, I realize most of the postings about him have been negative. That's fine...everyone is entitled to their own opinion. What bothers me is that so many posts are making the leap from what was actually shown on the TV to speculation and out and out declarations of pretty serious statements that include he's abusive, is not attracted to her, isn't ready for marriage, has checked out, thinks less of her because she slept with him right away, and more. And most salesman are considered sleazy...it's a perception that goes way way back to the snake oil salesman in the late 1800s and probably earlier than that. I worked in a casino dealing cards for 8.5 years. Many people thought that was immoral and sleazy. I tried to tell them it was not Mafia run anymore and everything is on the up and up, but they wouldn't listen.

The question I responded to said Ryan was an asshole about the whole closet thing. You're going all the way back to the honeymoon, which was 2 episodes ago, to validate that point. Two episodes ago he was, IMO (because I tend to shy away from generalizing that anyone else or everyone else agrees with a statement) immature and kind of a jerk. Again IMO, he's been decent the last two episodes. I did not hear him say "Why is that funny" (I actually thought he said "What's so funny" but I didn't tape it so I can't be sure) in a very defensive way. His voice didn't sound hard or angry or irritated to me...it sounded like a genuine question. And I didn't see any steamrolling going on when he suggested he take the entire closet. I thought it was a little selfish to even think that a woman wouldn't want at least 1/4th of the closet, but he is a little selfish but how many men aren't? That's something that can be fixed, and Jessica could have teased him and said "oh right, yeah...like I'm going to let you take the whole closet". And you are totally assuming that she didn't do it because there would have been a huge blowup. They have had one argument that we have actually seen, and though it was a doozy, it was over two weeks ago in show time. I don't think that should be held against him forever. And yes, I have seen the preview for next week. There is another argument, but are you inferring that it's automatically all his fault? The preview shows he's angry, but I didn't see anything that showed he was a bully. You're opinion of him is your own business, but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and although he was presented in a pretty damaging way on the honeymoon (a lot of it was his fault, I agree), he seems to have been trying very hard these last two weeks to be a good husband. If he had been dismissive of Jessica's apartment and said "I won't live here" some people on this site would have been screaming about it, but he was very accommodating and said he would have no problem living there. I think that shows unselfishness and an ability to compromise. I don't see an abuser or a bully. Maybe future episodes will show something different but for now that's how I see it. Why is working at Paychex a joke? It's gainful employment.

LOL, I can't stand how RR talks. Whenever he talks, it sounds like he's got a stopped up nose. Is that a NY accent? I'm from the Midwest, but the accents I've heard in movies and on TV don't sound so congested like he does. It drives me nuts.

I like Ryan and he's done nothing improper the last two episodes. The one that should flip soon is him...at Jessica. She's a whiner that already is convinced Ryan is going to turn out just like her other boyfriends so doesn't speak up for herself if she doesn't like what he is doing but rather, waits till he's not in the room and then complains to the camera. LOL about S&D's OVER-analyzing. Davina is trying to complain to Sean and he practically hands her the shovel and says "are you saying I just need to get out of my own way blah blah blah" and after a big long speech about it there's a pause, she looks relieved, and breathes out "Yes", as if that is really what she meant.

He asked her several times if she was OK with it. He didn't create a situation.....he explained that he has a lot of suits he wears for business. To me, business takes presidence over less formal wear for closet space IF you really wear the stuff all the time. If it's something you need for your job. We've all said he's a bit selfish and this would have been the point that (and maybe she did and we didn't see it) Jessica spoke up and said she'd need some of the closet too. But I shook my head when she didn't say anything to him but made a point to complain on camera. That's not the way to do it.

He absolutely did not get pissy. He said he would like to take all of the closet and she could take all of the dresser if that was OK with her, and she sort of snort/laughed. That's when he asked her, in a very non-threatening, non-abusive way, why she was laughing. She would not say she wasn't in favor of it and speak up...she just withdrew into herself and then expressed her anger in private on camera. I like Jessica, but I don't like the fact she's so quick to "categorize" Ryan, like 'oh that's what ex-boyfriend #2 used to do. And why is he an ass? He was perfectly willing to live in her apartment...she's the one who wasn't mature enough to handle it.

I can see JesRy and S&D at least making it thru the first 6 weeks and trying to make it work. But I believe that Jaclyn is not going to continue to fake how she feels about RyanR. In the previews for that final episode, he appears to me to be the most pissed off. And yes, I know they are all told not to give anything away, but there's just something in his look that says it all. Jaclyn made a BIG mistake telling him she wasn't attracted to him at the altar. Unlike Doug, who took constant abuse from ball buster Jaime because in his heart he really believed he could get her to come around, I don't think Ryan is going to give Jaclyn many chances. Once he feels sufficient time has passed that they should start becoming intimate and she pulls back, he's going to blow up.

I think that will actually be Jaclyn & Ryan R. Once he puts pressure on her to have sex, she's going to have to admit to herself that she just isn't in to him. I give her an "A" for effort, because it has to be an effort to be married to such a boring guy, but she's kidding herself that there's something between them.

I didn't find anything cold or unfeeling in the way he acted at his mom's house...or for the entire episode for that matter.

Did you forget that she didn't know she was marring into this family?

Ain't that the truth. Jamie should never have been selected as a candidate with her trust issues, and what was Jason even thinking making such a commitment when his mother was dying of cancer? Yes lucky for the experts, it all worked out. This year, however, their explanations of why they paired people together were doozies. I particularly shook my head at the bullying connection that they saw as something Davina and Sean had in common. And both Jamie AND Jessica's acting/modeling aspirations should have sent up red flags immediately.

"I think Ryan Douchebag/Jessica is the worst pairing because they are so obviously the complete opposite of each other. In this episode, there was a scene where Jessica was knocking on Ryan's door and he goes, "Who is it?" And she responds all exasperated with, "It's me; why can't you just look through the window?" She didn't even get the joke!" EXACTLY. It's a joke people say to each other all the time when they know who is on the other side of the door. I expected her to laugh. I didn't think she sounded exasperated but she seemed taken aback that he asked.

Finally, someone else who isn't totally turned off by him. I keep reading these negative posts about him, which is everyone's own opinion and I'm not saying anything against that, but I keep wondering what everyone else is seeing and I'm not. I don't think he's bad at all and I actually like them together and hope they work out. I would much rather see her with this Ryan than the other Ryan. There's a lot of baggage Jessica is carrying around from past relationships that she won't let go, and I hope she won't let that get in the way with Ryan. He's said over and over he's totally committed. I'm rooting for all the couples too.