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1. Lorelai convinces voters to vote for Taylor 2. Luke is relieved when Lorelai thinks it was a really good kiss...and doesn't want to forget it. 4. Lorelai and Rory thaw their tension with "bark and cheese" conversation on phone. 6. Luke gets emotional while looking over his dad's boat 7. Luke and Lorelai dance "spazzy" together 8. Luke agrees that he was lost without Lorelai when she discovers a reggae CD in his truck...."you bet." 10. Lorelai proposes to Luke. 11. Lane telling Mrs Kim that the band had broken up and Mrs Kim helps them organise a tour. 12. Lane and Zach's awkward but sweet first date. 13. Luke tells Lorelai about the time they met and shows her the horoscope. 14. Luke builds Lorelai an ice rink as he doesn't want her to be grumpy about snow like he is. 15. Luke being so proud of Lorelai over the Dragonfly getting into the magazine. 19. Luke winks at the end of the defense of their relationship at the town meeting 20. Lorelai is happy to have someone to blame now for things like her mother calling 22. Luke blurts out his plan to kidnap Rory and bring her back home and to her senses 23. Rory and Richard saunter off together after pranking Logan with engagement bit 25. Sookies' face when she realizes Luke and Lorelai really kissed. 26. Luke's "all in" speech at Maisie's. 28. When Paris and Doyle realize they're right for each other at speed dating. 29. The way Richard and Emily begin to bond again, over the lost dog. 30. The moment Luke and Lorelai share backstage during Fiddler on the Roof. 34. Lorelai and Rory excitedly, gratefully reunite and hug after Rory returns from Europe Okay, so we're down to voting against just TWO! My votes: 10 and 26
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So 33 is gone, but we have a five--yes, FIVE!---way tie for that the remaining two spots: 3, 7, 11, 26 and 31. I'll end this after one person votes for the TWO of those five you want eliminated
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Updated list: Prue's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Phoebe's S1 hair and Paige's S4 hair have been spared, and the next round is open! We're still voting for the two you like most :)
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1. Lorelai convinces voters to vote for Taylor 2. Luke is relieved when Lorelai thinks it was a really good kiss...and doesn't want to forget it. 3. Lorelai comes home after and emotionally exhausting day (dropping adulterous daughter at the airport) and enjoys flirting with Luke on the phone. 4. Lorelai and Rory thaw their tension with "bark and cheese" conversation on phone. 6. Luke gets emotional while looking over his dad's boat 7. Luke and Lorelai dance "spazzy" together 8. Luke agrees that he was lost without Lorelai when she discovers a reggae CD in his truck...."you bet." 10. Lorelai proposes to Luke. 11. Lane telling Mrs Kim that the band had broken up and Mrs Kim helps them organise a tour. 12. Lane and Zach's awkward but sweet first date. 13. Luke tells Lorelai about the time they met and shows her the horoscope. 14. Luke builds Lorelai an ice rink as he doesn't want her to be grumpy about snow like he is. 15. Luke being so proud of Lorelai over the Dragonfly getting into the magazine. 19. Luke winks at the end of the defense of their relationship at the town meeting 20. Lorelai is happy to have someone to blame now for things like her mother calling 22. Luke blurts out his plan to kidnap Rory and bring her back home and to her senses 23. Rory and Richard saunter off together after pranking Logan with engagement bit 25. Sookies' face when she realizes Luke and Lorelai really kissed. 26. Luke's "all in" speech at Maisie's. 28. When Paris and Doyle realize they're right for each other at speed dating. 29. The way Richard and Emily begin to bond again, over the lost dog. 30. The moment Luke and Lorelai share backstage during Fiddler on the Roof. 31. Lorelai stopping Luke getting fined for parking his boat out on the road even though they are broken up at the time. 33. Logan's instinct is to confront his father for belittling Rory, but instead they share a long hug following Rory's foray into criminal activity 34. Lorelai and Rory excitedly, gratefully reunite and hug after Rory returns from Europe The next round is open, and we're still voting against three! My votes: 7. 10 and 26
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Updated list: Prue's short hair (S1) Phoebe's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's really flat, dully brown hair (S4) (I don't know how to explain her S4 hair, but I think it's by far her least flattering) Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's wig and Prue's bob are saved, and the next round is open! Just vote for the two you like most/dislike least :) My votes: Paige's S4 hair and Phoebe's S1 short hair (Compared to most other hair-related indignities that the show's stylists subjected Phoebe to, her S1 hair was fabulous!)
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5 and 24 have gotten the ax, but we have a three way tie for that final spot among 9, 31 and 33. The first person who swoops in to vote against ONE of those three will end this round :)
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7, 10 and 26
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1. Lorelai convinces voters to vote for Taylor 2. Luke is relieved when Lorelai thinks it was a really good kiss...and doesn't want to forget it. 3. Lorelai comes home after and emotionally exhausting day (dropping adulterous daughter at the airport) and enjoys flirting with Luke on the phone. 4. Lorelai and Rory thaw their tension with "bark and cheese" conversation on phone. 5. Logan leaves pics and gorilla mask for Rory after their stunt 6. Luke gets emotional while looking over his dad's boat 7. Luke and Lorelai dance "spazzy" together 8. Luke agrees that he was lost without Lorelai when she discovers a reggae CD in his truck...."you bet." 9. Paris and Nanny care for Doyle when he's sick. 10. Lorelai proposes to Luke. 11. Lane telling Mrs Kim that the band had broken up and Mrs Kim helps them organise a tour. 12. Lane and Zach's awkward but sweet first date. 13. Luke tells Lorelai about the time they met and shows her the horoscope. 14. Luke builds Lorelai an ice rink as he doesn't want her to be grumpy about snow like he is. 15. Luke being so proud of Lorelai over the Dragonfly getting into the magazine. 19. Luke winks at the end of the defense of their relationship at the town meeting 20. Lorelai is happy to have someone to blame now for things like her mother calling 22. Luke blurts out his plan to kidnap Rory and bring her back home and to her senses 23. Rory and Richard saunter off together after pranking Logan with engagement bit 24. Emily forgiving Lorelai relatively quickly for the article. 25. Sookies' face when she realizes Luke and Lorelai really kissed. 26. Luke's "all in" speech at Maisie's. 28. When Paris and Doyle realize they're right for each other at speed dating. 29. The way Richard and Emily begin to bond again, over the lost dog. 30. The moment Luke and Lorelai share backstage during Fiddler on the Roof. 31. Lorelai stopping Luke getting fined for parking his boat out on the road even though they are broken up at the time. 33. Logan's instinct is to confront his father for belittling Rory, but instead they share a long hug following Rory's foray into criminal activity 34. Lorelai and Rory excitedly, gratefully reunite and hug after Rory returns from Europe 16 is history as well, and the next round is open! We're still voting against THREE :) And a very, very happy birthday and many more to our "lulu" today---our fellow GG fan, not Kirk's girlfriend. ;)
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Updated list: Prue's short hair (S1) Phoebe's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Prue's ill-fitting "bob" wig (Pardon My Past) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's really flat, dully brown hair (S4) (I don't know how to explain her S4 hair, but I think it's by far her least flattering) Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's curly hair and Paige's red hair have been rescued from the indignity of being named our worst hairstyles, and the next round is open! We're still voting for the TWO we want to save, ie the ones we dislike least :)
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18 and 21 are history, but we have a tie between 16 and 24 for that third spot! Just vote for the one of those two you most want eliminated---I'll end this after just one vote :)
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Updated list: Prue's short hair (S1) Phoebe's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Piper's suddenly curly hair (Morality Bites and maybe a couple of other episodes too!) Prue's ill-fitting "bob" wig (Pardon My Past) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's really flat, dully brown hair (S4) (I don't know how to explain her S4 hair, but I think it's by far her least flattering) Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Paige's red hair So Piper's fringe/bangs of S1 and Paige's braids were deemed the 'best of the worst' :) Just vote for the two you like best/dislike least of the ones that remain! My votes: Paige's red hair and Paige's S4 hair
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18 (I actually like a few Logan scenes in S5, but this isn't one of them---somehow he comes off more as sleazy than genuinely 'comforting' and concerned to me!), 21, 26
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I'll go with Paige's red hair (which I really liked for some reason!) and Piper's fringe/bangs because I can pretty much never NOT love Piper's hair :)
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1. Lorelai convinces voters to vote for Taylor 2. Luke is relieved when Lorelai thinks it was a really good kiss...and doesn't want to forget it. 3. Lorelai comes home after and emotionally exhausting day (dropping adulterous daughter at the airport) and enjoys flirting with Luke on the phone. 4. Lorelai and Rory thaw their tension with "bark and cheese" conversation on phone. 5. Logan leaves pics and gorilla mask for Rory after their stunt 6. Luke gets emotional while looking over his dad's boat 7. Luke and Lorelai dance "spazzy" together 8. Luke agrees that he was lost without Lorelai when she discovers a reggae CD in his truck...."you bet." 9. Paris and Nanny care for Doyle when he's sick. 10. Lorelai proposes to Luke. 11. Lane telling Mrs Kim that the band had broken up and Mrs Kim helps them organise a tour. 12. Lane and Zach's awkward but sweet first date. 13. Luke tells Lorelai about the time they met and shows her the horoscope. 14. Luke builds Lorelai an ice rink as he doesn't want her to be grumpy about snow like he is. 15. Luke being so proud of Lorelai over the Dragonfly getting into the magazine. 16. Rory decides to jump after Logan's one less moment you haven't lived speech 18. Logan comforts Rory after Dean breaks up with her 19. Luke winks at the end of the defense of their relationship at the town meeting 20. Lorelai is happy to have someone to blame now for things like her mother calling 21. Rory invites Logan to dance 22. Luke blurts out his plan to kidnap Rory and bring her back home and to her senses 23. Rory and Richard saunter off together after pranking Logan with engagement bit 24. Emily forgiving Lorelai relatively quickly for the article. 25. Sookies' face when she realizes Luke and Lorelai really kissed. 26. Luke's "all in" speech at Maisie's. 28. When Paris and Doyle realize they're right for each other at speed dating. 29. The way Richard and Emily begin to bond again, over the lost dog. 30. The moment Luke and Lorelai share backstage during Fiddler on the Roof. 31. Lorelai stopping Luke getting fined for parking his boat out on the road even though they are broken up at the time. 33. Logan's instinct is to confront his father for belittling Rory, but instead they share a long hug following Rory's foray into criminal activity 34. Lorelai and Rory excitedly, gratefully reunite and hug after Rory returns from Europe 17, 27 and 32 are history, and the next round is open! We're still voting against three :)
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
amensisterfriend replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
From the S1 thread: Kohola, I'll take it a step further and say that while Logan was usually more mature, thoughtful and kind than Tristan (though that's a REALLY low bar, haha), I actually preferred Rory around Tristan for some bizarre reason :) Maybe it's because S1 was so extremely sweet, bordering on too precious and twee IMO, that Tristan's...Tristan-ness was more of an interesting tone-altering relief to me back in S1 than Logan's presence was in S5-S7. And Tristan brought out this sharp, assertive side of Rory that I actually enjoyed, while she too often seemed the opposite around Logan to me---blander, more unsure, more of a comparatively weak-willed follower who just sort of drifted along. Logan and his dynamic with Rory have always somehow seemed more interesting ideas on paper than they were in reality to me. As I've rambled about elsewhere, the actor's perpetual smirk and line deliveries made him seem smarmy, slick, arrogant and insincere to me even when we were clearly supposed to feel otherwise. I'm very glad that Rory never ended up dating Tristan, but---perhaps in part because they never dated!---I actually like her chemistry with Tristan/CMM more than her chemistry with Logan/MC. Then again, you guys know I have the UO that nearly ALL of the GG male characters were too unlikable and problematic for me to root for them as love interests :) (The female characters were obviously profoundly flawed too, often in that excessive exaGGerated GG-esque way, but in general the female characters on this show also had more consistent, salient strengths to at least partially mitigate and soften those flaws, at least to me!) -
Kohola, I'm responding in the UO thread---because I'm not only agreeing for the most part with your UO but adding an even more unpopular thought of my own :) Hope to see you guys there!
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Sure, let's eliminate the ones we like most/dislike since the goal this time is to find the worst of the worst rather than the best of the best :) Is that okay? Raven, feel free to revise your vote!
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Updated list: Prue's short hair (S1) Piper's fringe/bangs (S1) Phoebe's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Piper's suddenly curly hair (Morality Bites and maybe a couple of other episodes too!) Prue's ill-fitting "bob" wig (Pardon My Past) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's really flat, dully brown hair (S4) (I don't know how to explain her S4 hair, but I think it's by far her least flattering) Paige's braided pigtails (a couple of times in S4!) Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Paige's red hair ...something just occurred to me: are we eliminating the ones we hate most or the ones we dislike least?! If the goal to to end up with the worst hairstyle, should we be eliminating the ones we dislike least? I'm confusing myself... :)
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Oh, wow, I get so irrationally happy when people chime in with UOs! Raven, you should avoid housework more often---I loved reading your thoughts :) ITA that he was more likable around other sisters. Both Leo and Piper tended to be least likable and interesting around each other, at least IMO :) I'm obsessed with that episode---I've literally lost count of how many times I've watched it---and it's actually the most entertaining and enjoyable I ever found Leo! As you can probably see from my other posts, I agree with so much of this. I get why Piper is generally the most 'popular' sister among fans, and I'm usually one to love and relate to fiction's snarky introverts, but her nonstop complaining and criticizing just gets so tiresome to watch. She becomes just such a joyless downer of a character, and maybe I could have sympathized more if it were deliberately depicted as clinical depression---lord knows that's something I relate to---but instead it just seems like the acting and writing combined to make her such a perpetually prickly, malcontent nag in the name of becoming 'tougher' and more assertive or something, which never quite worked for me. I also agree that HMC tended to have this really clipped, snippy delivery that made her sound even more surly and never-not-annoyed than she might have otherwise (not unlike Shannen D. in a way, though I like Prue much more than Piper.) I do think HMC is good at portraying surprising emotional depth when the scene calls for it and do like and 'get' her more than I used to overall, but I'm definitely with you on the very UO that she's my least favorite sister...in part because of how much I love the others :) Which leads me to... Can I just say that it makes my day to find a fellow Phoebe fan?! As I mention way too often, I absolutely adore her. I love her even more in early seasons, but I can never truly dislike her. Her warmth, energy, and enthusiasm is a surprisingly big part of what makes this show such an infectiously enjoyable pleasure for me to watch. I do (mostly!) enjoy Cole and the Phoebe/Cole dynamic, though I've already confessed to enjoying him more when he's evil and/or crazy, but I'm among the few Cole/Phoebe fans who's glad they didn't end up together. As you noted, they had this toxic, unhealthy, obsessive dynamic, and I actually respect Charmed a lot for being among the very few shows to essentially be like 'yes, you can have this 'epic' love story with tons of passion, but it doesn't always end with the supposed good girl successfully reforming the bad boy and living happily ever after---sometimes even when there's a ton of passion and even love, the two people involved are not destined to end up together. I love Prue a whole lot as well, and her relationship with her sisters---and particularly Phoebe---will always mean way too much to me :) And while rewatching parts of S2 recently, I..disliked Jack less, so there's that ;) Seriously, I actually love the idea of Prue with someone like Jack---a lighthearted, benignly vain, funloving extrovert---but he just came off so smarmy to me for some reason. Yeah, I was surprised to realize recently that even though I prefer the auction house as a setting to her photography career, I love Prue more in S2 and S3 than I did in S1. I wish she'd been a journalist or photographer for a local paper---preferably the crime section. I just always adore the idea of Prue crusading against crime and injustice :) Heh---yeah, the actor is gorgeous (IMO, obviously) and there is something I sometimes find likable about him, but the acting can be very subpar :)
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She did! I think for this round people mostly just nominated hairstyles they didn't like, but if you don't like Paige's red hair, I can add it to the list :)
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Ha---I think that line is from the S5 monkey episode since Paige wasn't around yet in S2. But I love that this show has more than one 'monkey episode' to choose from :)
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I'm not sure I've ever seen hatred of Leo, just the idea that he was boring and poorly defined---and that his relationship with Piper became joyless and tiresome for many :) Is it unpopular to love that monkey episode from S2? I love that episode. Just watching the girls and Leo hold those monkeys is like an automatic mood lifter for me :)
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17, 26 (I know we're supposed to think it's sweet, but this scene makes me cringe---I don't know whether it's SP's delivery or the way LG, to me, looks mortified and deeply uncomfortable by his declaration rather than touched) and 32 (more mildly funny than awwww-worthy to me!)
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1. Lorelai convinces voters to vote for Taylor 2. Luke is relieved when Lorelai thinks it was a really good kiss...and doesn't want to forget it. 3. Lorelai comes home after and emotionally exhausting day (dropping adulterous daughter at the airport) and enjoys flirting with Luke on the phone. 4. Lorelai and Rory thaw their tension with "bark and cheese" conversation on phone. 5. Logan leaves pics and gorilla mask for Rory after their stunt 6. Luke gets emotional while looking over his dad's boat 7. Luke and Lorelai dance "spazzy" together 8. Luke agrees that he was lost without Lorelai when she discovers a reggae CD in his truck...."you bet." 9. Paris and Nanny care for Doyle when he's sick. 10. Lorelai proposes to Luke. 11. Lane telling Mrs Kim that the band had broken up and Mrs Kim helps them organise a tour. 12. Lane and Zach's awkward but sweet first date. 13. Luke tells Lorelai about the time they met and shows her the horoscope. 14. Luke builds Lorelai an ice rink as he doesn't want her to be grumpy about snow like he is. 15. Luke being so proud of Lorelai over the Dragonfly getting into the magazine. 16. Rory decides to jump after Logan's one less moment you haven't lived speech 17. Logan gives Rory the dress to maintain the integrity of the event 18. Logan comforts Rory after Dean breaks up with her 19. Luke winks at the end of the defense of their relationship at the town meeting 20. Lorelai is happy to have someone to blame now for things like her mother calling 21. Rory invites Logan to dance 22. Luke blurts out his plan to kidnap Rory and bring her back home and to her senses 23. Rory and Richard saunter off together after pranking Logan with engagement bit 24. Emily forgiving Lorelai relatively quickly for the article. 25. Sookies' face when she realizes Luke and Lorelai really kissed. 26. Luke's "all in" speech at Maisie's. 27. Sookie's "Norman Mailer, I'm pregnant!" discovery. 28. When Paris and Doyle realize they're right for each other at speed dating. 29. The way Richard and Emily begin to bond again, over the lost dog. 30. The moment Luke and Lorelai share backstage during Fiddler on the Roof. 31. Lorelai stopping Luke getting fined for parking his boat out on the road even though they are broken up at the time. 32. Lorelai calls Rory saying "I'm sorry" over and over just as Emily shows up at Asher's wake. 33. Logan's instinct is to confront his father for belittling Rory, but instead they share a long hug following Rory's foray into criminal activity 34. Lorelai and Rory excitedly, gratefully reunite and hug after Rory returns from Europe (RANDOM OBSERVATION: For all the understandable heat that Lorelai gets for certain aspects of her personality, one thing that stands out about her to me as we compose these lists is that she's really a very forgiving woman---more so than I would be and more than she usually gets credit for :)) You guys have outdone yourselves this time, coming up with arguably one of our best lists ever!!! Even someone as generally ambivalent about S5 as I am now feels inspired to rewatch large portions of that season. Did I repeat any? Exclude any? Screw up the numbering? Any and all of the above are highly possible with me, so just let me know. Meanwhile, feel free to start voting against THREE!
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Prue's short hair (S1) Piper's fringe/bangs (S1) Phoebe's short hair (S1) Prue's long blonde wig (Morality Bites) Piper's suddenly curly hair (Morality Bites and maybe a couple of other episodes too!) Prue's ill-fitting "bob" wig (Pardon My Past) Phoebe's blonde hair (S3) Phoebe's super spiral 'poodle' perm (parts of S3) Phoebe's reaaallly short, poorly cut bangs (S4) Phoebe's almost-no-hair-left hair of S6 Paige's really flat, dully brown hair (S4) (I don't know how to explain her S4 hair, but I think it's by far her least flattering) Paige's braided pigtails (a couple of times in S4!) Paige's unnaturally blonde hair (on and off!) Phoebe's wig from Oh My Goddess Phoebe's wig from All Halliwell's Eve Piper's wig from All Halliwell's Eve If you guys think of more, let me know! Meanwhile, feel free to start voting against TWO :)