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Jessi is ridiculous!!!! Sal is really thinking with his little head and she will get what she wants from him, he will enjoy the attention and that is that. Why not be a gentleman sal, and keeo your mouth shut? Im sure its to justify his new relationship. How sad is thAt, he told his “ truth” to hurt her and it made him look way worse than shannon Oh im not nice lol. When she starting her leg lifting and all that wierd shit i hated her lol. yes danielle seems desperately unhappy. Somehow though they are making it work with all her craziness. Her mother is, well hubby, thats what you will get in several years.

Because her duplicity is on tv for all to see. Begging and belittling aven to marry her , how can tino watch and not be blindsided. At least gaby only has one guy so she she wont be shown lying through her teeth.

Jessi is as they say “ a lot” . I felt so bad for mallory, that had to be excruciating, esp because jessi was all about lifting her legs and making so strange gestures. I remember the ukelele but not mallory. I hope she finds someone but she needs to love herself first. Funny how shaina ducked out as soon as she thought she might be confronted- i wonder what happens when her new fiance watches it.i 100% beleive there was an affair . I hope natalie can heal, she seems so heartbroken.

Ok wow just saw them for the first time. Gabi really is so pretty and like you said, had a bit more weight on her. Im impressed that she juggled those 2 jobs . Funny we never saw clips of what rachel does. Fyi, what does rachel want to do in europe and what kind of contracting does he do?

Iyanna is wayyyyyy to needy and jarette is out of control. I don’t remember Mallory at all. Deepti and Kyle are so sweet.Danielle still grates on me and i just don’t like them together.

yet on the other hand if they duck out early, often they can get to paradise or even to be bachelor. I dont care if its scripted or not, tino who has always in my mind been her #1, has to listen to Rachel literally self destruct when Aven wont propose. yikes. and imagine if Aven gave in, and said yes I will propose and she goes on to pick Tino anyway. thats a truly horrible thing to do. as far as Gabys freak out, it seemed very scripted, these girls are reallly pressured to get that ring. its truly ridiculous

She was always identified as a “ flight instructor” So did anyone notice that gaby looked different? The fillers in her lips calmed down and now her teeth look ginormous. She looks so much better without the lips . never thought i would start the show living rachel disliking gabby and feeling 100% different now.

Yes i was actually surprised when she picked Ryan. Social media has completely ruined this show, there were some truly great seasons before people were trying to cash in. I loved Aaron burges season even tho he was a bit of a himbo. Andrew firestones season was amazing, ,those were the days when the lead was a mystery. I was always impressed that Ashley Herbert stayed a dentist.

Ok how does someone as young as gaby retire from nursing ? Most of my nurse friends have been working at least 29-30 years

There have been many leads that left the show dating and not engaged. I think the powers that be really wanted a double engagement. But to amp up the drama they discouraged the guys , or the guys were feeling trapped or wanting to be on bip. Im hate watching at this point Bob guiney told his final pick the ring was a “ promise ring” lol. They broke up a few weeks later .

I remember ali explaining all the travel and food and drink led her to gain weight at the end .

The saddest part is aven and even zach were so overly contrite in their “ apologies” and you know that was just for show . Rachel in particular really sees herself as blameless. Watching rachels actions in the prior clayton season, it is obvious she just wants an engagement to any warm body. as far as Gaby, she looked different - her lips looked smaller and her teeth looked bigger - am I nuts ? Lol. im starting to wonder if the producers take the guys for a chat and tell them how crazy an instant engagement is . While at the same time brainwashing the girls and saying it has to end in engagement. i had a friend who ditched her amazing boyfriend and immediately got engaged and married to someone else and 35 years later she is still sorry aboit it . You know, i used to watch bip for the sheer ridiculousness if it - but now that has even become a get engaged show. At least on that show they have the chance to leave together.

This may be as bad as when jogh found out andi slept with nick! Although chris and desiree made it, even watching desiree talk about brooks. I think tino is going to be livid . I also think shes a liar and aven was never her # 1, so she is no better than clayton.

Oh… wait didn’t Ben h do the unloveable thing? Gabys aunt is a doll.

Is gabys mom there? I must have missed introductions

Ok smart gabby, saying she only wanted the family to meet Erich which is not really the truth lol

And who could blame him? I really despise her after seeing this. Bunny boiler! Engagement at any cost, how sad And I’m sure producers want their double engagement ……. By the way gabby looks very good tonite

Wow good luck tino, this chick just wants a ring. So what if aven gave in… then she would still pick tino and aven would be devastated. Ugh Rachel !

I noticed Jesse even made a point to say when Zach decided to leave- Zach was a gentleman …… good for him😊 Producer manipulation. Imagine tino,s fury when he sees that her saying wanting to be engaged to essentially anyone- crazy!

ohhhh Lannies mother!!!!OH MY GOD.

I think he was her # 1 pick- i think she was reading a script from producer’s

Are you talking about michael from katies season? Rumors are bachelor was offered to a few who turned it down. I cant say i blame them.

Good point !!!

there have been other seasons where at this point the lead knows who it is and essentially tells them. There is NO reason for Gaby to drag Erich further in the process, hes the only one left and she loves him. I can only think the producers are making her do this . Rachel is a bitchy little actress with a fake smile and a very large ego. she told Aven she was falling in love with him and even said as he left "dont forget Im falling in love with you" this is EXACTLY what Clayton did . Im literally speechless

Zach somehow got to see thev” real rachel” now i understand , the way she said “ are you ok with everyting” was said in such a snotty fashion, it struck me how this role has gotten to her and she really thinks shes all that. She had me fooled too. Ugh.