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I think Emerson is a bit too much as the main villain of the season, mostly because I had also watched "Evil" (from the same creators as Elsbeth's -highly recommended) where he was also the main and very evil villain and I honestly think I see his "Evil" character every time he is on screen. It is like he crossed over from one show to another. I would much prefer he played a good guy and not Elsbeth's possible nemesis. Still, I liked her and Captain going together after the judge! Case of the week was quite amusing, especially since we all connected it to SVU and the victim to Dick Wolf. The creators of the show has a past of mocking TV trends. I remember in the "Good Wife" a show within the show "inspired" by the "True Detective". It was hilarious!

I don't know if it is the book's source material or the Tv writing (I have read that the show deviates from the books in some points) but the story is quite weak in season 2. Season 1 ended with a big revelation, the existence of multiple Silos. The main character manages to reach another silo and find a survivor and 6 episodes later we barely know anything more than the end of the first season. Cause Jules doesn't seem to care asking a single thing about the Silos. Yes, she wants to go back and save her Silo, but still, she has multiple opportunities to ask Solo for more info and she doesnt. As for Silo 18, the whole story desperately tries to make parallels with our world. The speech about "divide and conquer" is completely ridiculous cause this tactic cannot work in a place like Silo. In their need to talk about our society problems, the writers bend realism. A confined society that has NO way to "refresh" itself with outside help and new people, would not treat the Mechanical like expendable pariahs, or anyone else really. At this point even the fact that the Silo is at least 200years old and managed to survive is not believable. The only interesting thing we have learned this season was that the Vaults get power from an external source. That clearly means there is some kind of central control of the Silos. But instead of focusing in the mystery, we spend so much filler time with unrealistic rebellions and we have the main heroine doing practically nothing for whole 6 episodes with 4 remaining.

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Realism is not strong in this show (or any show recently). I mean the assistant gave the password to his boss on the phone, which is the biggest no-no on sharing passwords, especially when we have a legal firm and the owner.

cannot decide if I like this show or not.. I think I lean to the "no" side of the fence. I really like the 75old woman surviving in the big firm (although I doubt how realistic all this is). But, the whole daughter part of the story seems like it comes from a different show and apart from giving Bates the chance to shine, I just don't see it gluing to the rest of the show. Basically this show is just Bates. They bend common sense (like involving a kid into investigating who is responsible for his mother death) in order to accommodate Bates. Also, apart from Olympia, the rest of the cast/characters are not good (I guess also a choice so they wont take the spotlight from Bates). Especially the two younger lawyers who are really indifferent and boring. But this ends up being an issue, since we have scenes where Bates is amazing and all the rest is just "meh".

My guess that he wasn't among the people that were allowed in the vault, but someone put him there to save him. Or, he entered and let others die? Or maybe all these years of isolation just drove him a bit mad. I suppose we gonna see the vault in the next episode, he has to save Jules, and maybe learn more about him.

I so much enjoyed this episode! Big part for it that those two are a real couple and it was great watching them acting together. I guess it wasn't quite realistic, legally speaking, but it was so much fun I did not care at all. Plus her son is amazing and casting this actor was fantastic, he really looks like her son. For me, best episode of the series so far.

Let's spend plenty of this episode time on how the Mechanical ppl will escape (which ends up being so unrealistic that makes you wonder if anyone in the writers rooms has any knowledge of physics laws - those two should have been cut in half after than fall..). Let's spend more time with Bernard and Lucas discovering what we already know.. Let's spend one more episode on how Jules will make this suit. Which I suspect she will manage to finish 5 mins before the end of the season. They make this show like if it has a 25episodes season, filler time after filler time. I find myself whining about it this season.. when I was just praising it the previous one. So far, it is a disappointment...

I think like we are beating a dead horse here... but IMHO, the mistake you make is that you compare what has been happening to our society with the one of Silo, where the needs and the conditions are very peculiar. What happens in our world, cannot happen in Silo without having the later self-destruct. You cannot blame and punish people you desperately need to survive and you have no one to replace them with. The Silo has a history of at least 140 years. It is simply impossible to have lasted that long with treating the Mechanical this way. Silo cannot just be a microcosm of our current society.

with that logic/attitude/mentality the Silo(s) should had been destroyed/collapsed many many years ago. You resent what keeps you alive and you go after it, well then you die. So, in our story/universe, still doesn't make any sense.

Well, we do not know the bigger picture, like how people ended in the Silos, what kind of disaster happened, etc etc. But still, you are right, if you think it well, the whole thing is not realistic. As the "Judge" said, people are not meant to live in such places without horizons, so I can only guess they believe that ruling like this will keep them from trying to escape and have the Silo collapse. But still, applying draconian rules never managed to last long and at one point people will rebel. Since everyone's cooperation is needed for the Silo to survive, having a class system of upper levels and down deepers makes no sense. Rebellion is inevitable. And as you wrote, why not keep people up to date? Why they shouldn't know that there are more people out there patiently waiting for the air to clean? Why not allowing communication between the Silos, that would definitely made life a bit more tolerable? The whole thing seems more like an experiment of some kind (once?) lead by a lunatic or a cult leader.

I get what you say, but the circumstances are different in Silo. In our societies there millions eager to take the place of rebelling workers. There is a big pool of people in the lowest status to replace them. But not in Silo. And I think this is a big plot hole in the story and very poorly written. I guess they want to do parallels with our society but it is not realistic. When the survival of the Silo depends on everyone doing his/her job, you can't just treat whole groups of people like this. It is not that if the Mechanics go on strike are others ready to come in their place. The Silo existence relies on a very delicate balance with human resources extremely limited. Actually I find it weird that the Mechanical does not belong to the privileged classes of the Silo.

Of course this episode was really interesting, but I hate the pace of this show. A whole episode almost in real time while ppl from the mechanical are climbing upstairs. Which I wouldn't mind if the season was 15 episodes long.. aaaargh, it is like if they film it page by page from the book or something. And they want to end it in 4 seasons? yeah right! there is also something that is really bugging me (I quote myself from the Reddit sub): ok, I just don't get it: why is convenient to "blame the mechanical"? These people basically keep the Silo running. But it seems everyone treats them like they are expendable. Jules is gone, her shadow is dead and now Bernard wants to get rid of the head of the Mechanical and two of the best mechanics. Who on earth is gonna fix the generator if things go wrong? And who is gonna stop the people from the Mechanic to barricade and stop the generator again? What the raiders will do? kill them all and run the generator by themselves? I have no clue how this is addressed in the books, but for me it is a huge plot hole.

hmmm A Borg Queen in the new cast... might even watch it!

Boring and cliche and another trauma for one of our heroes. *yawn*