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Donna: I'm going to go with, I think it's sophomore year? It's when she had the short platinum hair and they were doing sort of a club kid thing with her wardrobe. It's such a skanky look to begin with, but it kind of worked in its on strange way on TS. I don't think "natural beauty" is ever going to be her wheel house and this look at least showed off her long frame. Plus TS can actually do goofy well and you need a certain amount of goof to pull off the 1990s kinder-whore look with it just going into stripper territory all the time.
I particularly enjoyed the looks of utter shock on Joe's and other people's faces when they saw Donna's post-apocalyptic kinder-whore look in the Powerman 5000 video. What exactly is blowing your minds, here, people who see Donna every day? It's the same fit and cut as her normal wardrobe, just a few more rips and slightly cheaper fabrics.
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What the heck is a "quiver"? I'm not up on this religion of the Duggars and keep hearing the term "quiverful" and I've just wondered what a quiver could be.
It's the container an archer wears on her back to hold her arrows.
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As for "surprised Jill is all in" on the mascot thing. I doubt she has a choice. Even when people are just students at that type of school they often decorate their house in gear for the rest of their lives. He WAS the mascot.
I went to a very similar school in the same athletic conference, and YES. My husband is now a fan whether he likes it or not. If we had kids, there would absolutely be photos of them in the school's gear. It's practically a dominant genetic trait. I just hope that it's contagious enough to get Jill excited about seeing her kids actually *attend* these kinds of schools (preferably my alma mater because it is The Best).
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For those who didn't watch: nobody said "lesbian agenda" in this interview. I think some may have misunderstood Michelle blurting out "it was an agenda!" in reference to a person who is (maybe?) a lesbian, but that phrase was not actually uttered.
Now, "transgendered" (sic)? That's another story...
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So even if Jill was thinking about maybe considering talking to someone to learn how to imagine herself possibly wanting to think about some form of family planning, there's going to be lot less guilt-inducing scaremongering, and a lot more pragmatism. MAYBE she won't have 40 billion children?
Good lord, I hope you are right. It would be an actual victory if she and Derick chose to stop at just a few children (and even more so if Josh and Anna stop NOW). I would love it if the 19 Duggar children produced no more than 30 grandchildren altogether. Not because I'm some eugenicist weirdo; I just think every single one of them would benefit from a small, manageable family life after growing up in the monkey cage of the Tonitown Zoo.
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Cool how Megyn was covered up to her chin and speaking of hair, did she wear extensions for JB's benefit?
Funny enough, I noticed when she walked in the door that she was wearing very tight pants! The top was modest but the bottoms were flashy.
I'm not sure whether she has extensions, but I watched her show the other night and thought her hair looked good from the front, but mullet-ish in the back. Not sure what to make of that! Love how she keeps us guessing with that whole ensemble, though.
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Yeah there was some fuzzy math going on there too, ages and time elapsed, those pesky little details.
In one paragraph, JB confirmed that the events occurred in 2002-03, yet said that in 2003-04, those things happened "years ago." Um?
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They didn't. This time. But I was editorializing Michelle's previous bikini lawn mowing stance.
I don't think the Duggars have ever implied that their daughters were to blame for their own molestation. What we actually know and what they admit to is horrible enough; this seems like a bizarre addition, IMO.
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2. The girls were asleep. They totally didn't know they were violated until we told them. Then we explained to them that it was all their fault for being so enticing. While they were asleep. Of course. So I'm pretty sure it wasn't really their fault...since they were asleep. And unable to consciously make a choice to entice their brother with their feminity. I'm not making any sense. #DuggarLogic
I watched the interview but I didn't hear them say anything remotely like this.
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Thank you for the information, JocelynCavanaugh. I had no idea about Sabrina, and I have nothing but sympathy for her. I hope she is getting counseling and is doing well. I did not mean to be insensitive or mean spirited in the least. I don't follow these guys outside of the show, so I had no idea that she wouldn't be back or what she had been through.
I didn't think anyone was mean-spirited. In fact it was way less snark than average for PTV! I assume that poster is someone close to Sabrina or at least feels they are.
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Since other commenter kept it vague and scoldy, here's a quote from Sabrina I found on a celeb gossip site:
"Bottom line is, I was raped by someone I trusted and I tried to destroy myself because I didn't love me anymore I thought it was my fault," she wrote. "I let it control my life and ruin my life and I tried to heal the pain with substance abuse. Some other things happened as well and I'm still learning and growing and I have a long way to go. Please don't ask any more questions and if you don't have nothing nice to say then don't bother saying anything at all. THAT'S the truth."
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But they are political people, aren't they? Wasn't he a politician at one point? And he ran for US Senate and made his intolerant views public. And she lent her "personality" to rant against transgender people by phone. And Josh is behind the scenes politically. So she shouldn't go any softer on them than any other political personality.
You're right, they are or were politically active (albeit kind of bad at it). I was just thinking of them being in the role of concerned parents rather than running for office or lobbying.
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I agree that Kelly won't question them the way she sometimes questions politicians. And that's not just because they're conservatives rather than liberals. When she questions a politician, in a certain way it isn't personal. It's the same way that, in the old but not too old days, Orrin Hatch and Teddy Kennedy could be friends off the Senate floor. It's one thing to attack someone hammer and tongs over their professional and political beliefs and behavior. It's quite another thing to be so aggressive over something they do or believe in their personal lives.
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That's what I expect, anyway. I hope that I'm wrong.
This is a really good point. I've been rooting for Megyn, but with some reservations, and I think this is exactly why. I've seen her tear into a political guest, but by the end the "thanks/goodbye" part seemed genuinely friendly. Political folks can separate business and personal, but Jim Bob and Michelle probably can't (or won't). Also, the interview being on their turf will probably make it harder for her to go for the jugular. I hope she goes for it anyway, though. Surely she's seen how many people, even conservative evangelicals, don't want her to go easy on them.
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I agree they're bad actors. But some of them are definitely Amish. You can't fake that.
I didn't mean to imply they're not Amish. They're just terrible at acting out all the fake set-ups the producers apparently come up with.
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I've noticed a lot of people saying that because Megyn is a parent, they expect her to be tougher on the Duggars. I just wanted to chime in as someone who is not a parent, and does not plan to be one: I would be just as tough as anyone on a child molester or the people who covered for him. You don't have to have children to take this as seriously as it deserves. I expect Megyn to be tough on them because she is smart and assertive and has a sense of right and wrong (even if you disagree with her politics, which is fine, you can't really argue that she is "amoral"). There's no need to make this into one of those parents vs. non-parents things.
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This show is painfully fake, and they're all terrible actors, especially Mary. But I will totally keep watching. I grew up somewhere between Amish Country and the Jersey Shore, so unfortunately I find both of these terrible "reality" genres fascinating.
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TTC will never not mean "Trying To Conceive" to me based on its usage on other internet boards. Of course, it also applies to the married Duggars at any given point in time, so...
In the [However Many] Kids and Moving special, Michelle said that Jim Bob called the house a giant Tinker Toy project, so I assume that is where the nickname came from, but I also think of it as TontiTown House.
Those are all perfect! What a serendipitous title for that den of iniquity.
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Wait, TTH doesn't stand for tater tot house? What does it stand for, then?
Tinker Toy House, because it was built from a kit. But there's also TTC, tater tot casserole, so sometimes we get them mixed up.
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It kinda works either way... and it makes me want tater tots *real bad*. My local Sonic owes this forum!
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With all the reading of these threads that I've done lately, I have to say: I will never not read "TTH" as "Tater Tot House."
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I don't think Voddie has anything to do with Gothardism. He's a little more intellectual, if still culturally conservative. His degrees are from accredited schools/seminaries, and he's loosely affiliated with John Piper/Desiring God, which I think is more theologically grounded and less proscriptive (JMHO).
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Maci and Ryan were briefly engaged.
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I wasn't really talking about the fit, just addressing an earlier comment from someone else about how the Duggar girls seem to like striped maxi skirts so much. Guess I should've quoted it.
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You let the police come to you. You don't go to them. That's how headlines like this one get written.
I don't want to drag this out, but I disagree again. That's not necessarily common wisdom, certainly not to me (I don't typically have run-ins with the law so I don't have much sense of the strategies…) and probably not for a former state senator in small-town Arkansas. At the time, it may have seemed like a better move, and as others have noted, they may not have been thinking in terms of TLC and People Magazine at that point. JB may have wanted to nip it in the bud for any number of reasons, and we don't have enough information to be sure in any case.
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S04.E03: Jeremy London/David & Jackie Siegel
in Celebrity Wife Swap [V]
I'm not sure I understand why this is "awful." Facebook is a way to communicate with people who want to know what's going on in your life, even if it's bad news.
Jeremy tweeted that they were both devastated by the news.