Small Talk: Take It Outside! Carryover Conversations

[Affogato]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

Since Grande herself hasn't really discussed it publicly, I don't think we can conclude she has PTSD anymore than we can diagnose diabetes or high blood pressure on sight.

Also she doesn’t owe is the details of why she is (thinner, heavier, anything) or of any treatment she receives for anything, and if she has hurt someone or been hurt the details of any apologies or conversations that were had. Nor do any other celebrities. If she has not told us her personal business it is likely a sign of mental health. 

[Raja]

50 minutes ago, tearknee said:

yeah, Manchester. she's mentioned it herself.

Perhaps the bigger attack by the crazy at the County Music festival in Las Vegas a few months later can be attributed to people forgetting 

[tearknee]

2 hours ago, Notabug said:

Since Grande herself hasn't really discussed it publicly, I don't think we can conclude she has PTSD anymore than we can diagnose diabetes or high blood pressure on sight.

She has.

 

[Notabug]

59 minutes ago, tearknee said:

She has.

 

Recently?  I haven't heard her discuss it publicly since fairly shortly after it happened.  As I recall, she was receiving help, and, just because there is no public discussion about her current state of mind doesn't mean that no one in her inner circle isn't helping her address the issue if needed.

We really don't know what problems Ariana may or may not be having as it is really none of our business.  

[tearknee]

All i knew was that she had mentioned it and i wasn't judging her. Given my own hell thanks to my mom and her Shirley Temple projection.

[Shrek]

On 3/2/2025 at 11:29 AM, tearknee said:

as with the attempt to force the term "sex worker" as all-purpose term (being a sex worker is a choice, being a prostitute is not), the disparagement of those who choose the prefix Mrs. (although even those that do,neglect how to use it properly today - except on wedding invitations) seems like a 'heroic' reversal of this (freedom just as planned):

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ResistanceAsPlanned

 

Who says being a prostitute isn't a choice because that's news to me & probably a lot of prostitutes who have made that choice?

[tearknee]

On 3/4/2025 at 8:57 AM, Shrek said:

Who says being a prostitute isn't a choice because that's news to me & probably a lot of prostitutes who have made that choice?

"sex worker" implies a universal free choice, which is the distinction I am making.

USian is another asininity from such people for it sounds as though it could be part of the vocabulary of a language from a pulp sci-fi or sci-fantasy. Though given its intellectuals pushing such things and not average ordinary people -- who live on Struggle Street and never UC Berkely or Oxbridge -- I'm not shocked.

[Makai]

On 3/3/2025 at 5:00 AM, tearknee said:

No one gives a shit about us who are the ex-jobbing kids of Tinseltown.

Even the handful that are stars.

People are worried about Ariana Grande's skeletal appearance right now and they know damn well that like the recently deceased Michelle Trachtenberg, Grande has PTSD - but no one is lifting a finger to give any practical help.

Wait, Trachtenberg had PTSD? It was reported that she recently had a liver transplant and it seems likely that was why her appearance had changed recently. There is no information available about the cause of her health issues or her cause of death. 

As for Ariana, I feel like “yes, and?” is her clearly saying she is over people commenting on her life. 

On 3/3/2025 at 12:53 PM, Notabug said:

Recently?  I haven't heard her discuss it publicly since fairly shortly after it happened.  As I recall, she was receiving help, and, just because there is no public discussion about her current state of mind doesn't mean that no one in her inner circle isn't helping her address the issue if needed.

We really don't know what problems Ariana may or may not be having as it is really none of our business.  

She talked about it last month during Oscar’s press and your recollection appears to be dead on. She describes it as something she dealt with in the past through extensive therapy. 

Edited Friday at 09:34 PM by Makai

[tearknee]

2 hours ago, Makai said:

Wait, Trachtenberg had PTSD?

Yes, hence her heavy drinking. This is related from Paul Petersen (who founded A Minor Consideration)

[Makai]

2 hours ago, tearknee said:

Yes, hence her heavy drinking. This is related from Paul Petersen (who founded A Minor Consideration)

All I can find is a facebook post that says nothing about heavy drinking. And reading that post made my opinion of Paul Petersen take a nosedive. As far as I can tell, Michelle did not talk about her health other than to tell people to stop speculating. Even if he has inside information, for him to post it is wildly inappropriate and exploitative. I can’t imagine any of the people he named would appreciate his post. 

He also misspelled Michelle’s name. 

Edited Yest. at 12:38 AM by Makai

[tearknee]

Petersen wouldn't just publish something without the family's permission IMO. Given how many of us "formers" are involved in AMC, they would have called him out as well if so.

[Makai]

9 hours ago, tearknee said:

Petersen wouldn't just publish something without the family's permission IMO. Given how many of us "formers" are involved in AMC, they would have called him out as well if so.

We clearly see it differently. I chose to believe what those celebrities have said publicly. I found the post to be exploitative. 

[tearknee]

9 minutes ago, Makai said:

We clearly see it differently. I chose to believe what those celebrities have said publicly. I found the post to be exploitative. 

Given how long AMC has been around and how many former child performers are part of it, i trust them.