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SrPab

SrPab

How close is TCTM to being 2X Platinum in the U.S.? How close is Pentatonix to Gold status in the U.S.? I would think TCTM has now sold over 1.5M album-equivalent units, while Pentatonix has sold around 400,000 album-equivalent units.

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GirlvsTV
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My big issue with that NY Times review is that I don't think the album should be reviewed as an 'acappella' album at all. PTX made a pop album full of songs intended to attract mainstream radio play.

Geeze
Geeze

Avi's new video Quarter Past Four  I read into it why he's stepping back.

debbydeb
debbydeb

@SrPab, yes the whole CASA facebook group discussion baffles me too. It reminded me in the visual art world they're squabbling about Contemporary Art when it first arrived too. But really, for a cont

Sharpie66

Sharpie66

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Just guesstimating from the sales figures for TCTM this past month, I think that it's probably around 1.7-1.8 million? It was at 1.1 million at the end of 2014, and has sold 140,000 for each of the past two weeks, plus another 100,000 the week before that. And I'm sure that at least a few rebels bought it outside of December! So, even if it doesn't get to 2X platinum this year, it definitely will next year.

 

As for Pentatonix, its first week sales were, what, 85,000? And it's probably averaged about 20,000-30,000/week after that for the past 5 weeks, so it's maybe around 250,000 by now? If so, it's halfway to a gold certification.

 

ETA: SrPab, where did you see the 400,000 sales figure? If that's correct, that's much better than I was guessing!

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Sharpie66

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They were saying in an interview how they're singing two songs this year, but they sang two songs last year, too, albeit in two completely different time slots. I'm going to be out of town and at a party tomorrow night, so I'll be missing seeing them. I'm sure I'll be able to see it on YouTube, though!

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SrPab

SrPab

I based my numbers on "feel". As such, I feel better in saying TCTM has sold around 1.5M - 1.75M to-date. As for Pentatonix...it sold just under 100,000 units (i.e., pure sales plus streaming) in its debut week in mid-October.

 

All of my touchy-feely numbers are predicated on physical CD sales and paid downloads + streaming equivalents. I may have guesstimated more optimistically for Pentatonix. But then again, my gut also tells me a TCTM halo effect could have spurred additional sales of their other albums--especially since others have reported that some/all of their EPs and albums charted back into BB200 and the iTunes main U.S. chart.

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Kromm

Kromm

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Okay, from what i've seen (I didn't see it on the day but today via YouTube), the New Year's Day song wasn't even performed on the Seacrest New Year's Show. Wow. Missed opportunity. I don't get it in the least.  You have a song about New Years. On a show about New Years. Airing on New Years... and at least pretending hard it was being done on New Years (even if apparently those LA remotes weren't). And someone (to be fair we don't know if it was on PTXs end or the producers) decides they shouldn't do that song. Weird. Unless they just haven't rehearsed the song live enough (since you know... it's probably only applicable to sing at all from lets say Christmas Day to Jan 1).

 

What got done were admittedly mediocre (for PTX) performances of Can't Sleep Love and Cracked. The noise level was just too brutal in that venue for those performances to be anything else but mediocre. 

 

Honestly, even though the live version of CSL IS typically better than the recorded one, I still really am sick of seeing them do it live now. 

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Sharpie66

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That's a great song, SrPab--thanks!!

 

Chart update (sorry for the delay, I was on vacation in Florida until last night):

 

Top 200 Albums:

TCTM: #23 (#4 last week)

Pentatonix: #31 (#13)

 

Holiday charts are done until the end of the year. Pentatonix didn't drop nearly as badly as I feared it would--#31 is quite respectable, IMO! Next week should be interesting to see where it ends up.

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ptxnewsandstuff

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I keep forgetting that Pentatonix literally came out 2 months ago. They're still promo-ing CSL and it's still hanging around on radio. Like all the performers on the NYE show, it was just another promotional gig. 

 

Oh and ICYMI: Pentatonix made into Forbe's 2016 30 Under 30. Another for the record books, 1st a cappella act on the list.

 + Forbes Q&A with PTX. Some interesting facts you might not know about them. Although the question about college debt was weird. Why would you need to know that?

 

Happy New Year!

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Kromm

Kromm

Oh and ICYMI: Pentatonix made into Forbe's 2016 30 Under 30. Another for the record books, 1st a cappella act on the list.

Okay... is that a thing? I mean that's not a sub-category that's probably ever existed to go on the list before. Who would have qualified?  Rockapella back in the 90s?

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Sharpie66

Sharpie66

FYI, Kevin's other group, Triptyq, whose first few songs I have really enjoyed, has their first EP going up for pre-order on Friday, with the first single and its video being available on that day as well.

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ptxnewsandstuff

ptxnewsandstuff

For those of us who can't see the Forbes article because we won't turn off our ad-blockers, would someone please explain what 30 under 30 means?

Straight from Forbes. "Presenting the Class of 2016: 600 of the brightest young entrepreneurs, breakout talents and change agents in 20 different sectors."

Amazing achievements, you've probably used one of their services.

 

Achievement unlocked for Kevin.

"I will never get over this. This is something I've dreamt about since college. Thank you @Forbes!"

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ToxicUnicorn

ToxicUnicorn

Thanks Sharpie66 and ptxnewsandstuff.  Kevin knew about this list in college???  I am feeling terribly outclassed.

 

Honestly, even though the live version of CSL IS typically better than the recorded one, I still really am sick of seeing them do it live now.

*whispers*  I would like a new cover right about now ...

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Sharpie66

Sharpie66

Heck, I would just like a new video off of the Pentatonix album, preferably for either "Misbehavin'" or maybe for "First Things First," which was a song that I didn't like so much on my first album listen, but it has really grown on me a lot!

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Kromm

Kromm

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Thanks Sharpie66 and ptxnewsandstuff. Kevin knew about this list in college??? I am feeling terribly outclassed.

He was in grad school, so college isn't that many years out for him.

And actually that list has been "famous" for quite some time. I can't put an exact number to it but I recall hearing about it at least a decade ago.

And really sometimes you get on it because of a right time/right place thing. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega are both on this year's list and if you really look at what they did, all it was is to act in one particular movie. Business-wise all they did was manage to get cast (this isn't to derive the job they did or anything like that--I'm just saying one route to get on the list is less about movers and shakers and more about a sudden rise in fame).

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Sharpie66

Sharpie66

Chart update:

 

Pentatonix: #35 (#31 last week)

TCTM: #144 (#23)

 

I am really amazed that Pentatonix is still doing so well! I thought it would drop really quickly once the Christmas season, and the coattails of TCTM, was over. It just might have the chance of going gold if it stays in the top 50 for a bit longer.

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Sharpie66

Sharpie66

This week's chart update:

 

Pentatonix: #50 (#35 last week)

 

Still holding on much better than I thought they would! I seriously was expecting sales to tank as soon as January began, but they're still in the mix.

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SrPab

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I've read some bits and pieces regarding RCA's intention to make PTX blow up globally. They'll be touring again this year, and I really do think they'll have concerts in countries they've never performed in.

 

I'm curious if it will be a full-fledged "world tour" -- something that spans 9-10 months of the year. Will they stop anywhere in Latin America (I think, yes)? Will they have concerts in Adelaide and Perth, Australia, besides revisiting Brisbane, Sydney, and Melbourne (perhaps)? Will they have stops in New Zealand (I'm unsure)? Is South Africa on their radar?

 

For that matter, are there any rumors about them having concerts in any of the Scandinavian countries (I know they've played in Copenhagen, Denmark), or the Baltic, or Russia? They've never had a concert stop in mainland China, Hong Kong or Taiwan.

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Kromm

Kromm

They've never had a concert stop in mainland China, Hong Kong or Taiwan.

Haven't they done other gigs in China though? Their version of the Sing-Off, as well as the Beijing Autoshow.

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Sharpie66

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Those were early in their careers. I would love to see what kind of audience they could pull now.

BTW, I had gotten away from watching PTX reaction vids on YT some time ago, but I just discovered this older guy who calls himself NearlySeniorCitizen who has become a huuuuge PTX fan through his reaction videos. His first one is Evolution of Music, and he watched it due to a rec from a viewer. He starts out saying, "I don't know what a Pentatonix is, but here goes!" then when they start, he's "Oh, it's a Capella!" and enjoys it a lot. What cracked me up was on his second vid, for the Michael Jackson video, when he says, "This would be perfect for me to smoke my pot to..."

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Kromm

Kromm

Those were early in their careers. I would love to see what kind of audience they could pull now.

Actually the Beijing autoshow was 2014. Before their biggest success it's true, but by definition probably not early in their career.

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SrPab

SrPab

I think the only season of The Sing-Off: China was based in Shanghai and, as noted above, the auto show was in Beijing. If they've performed in mainland China more than those two instances, then it was probably for private events.

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ptxnewsandstuff

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"...but Sony got a surprising lift from Pentatonix, who sold another million-plus following 2014’s 2 million-plus to establish a bona fide franchise—and they pulled it off without a radio hit, a rarity in today’s music business." - Hits Daily Double

 

Bunch of numbers & analysing but PTX, a very rare feat. Could we call them a franchise yet though? Know that their main goal for this year is to get a hit song, lets see what they can pull off this year.

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Kromm

Kromm

Great Scott! -- ever the delusional optimist with his tweet recognizing 10,000,000 million subs! Hee, VidStatsX shows it as a rounding error for Top 100 Most Subscribed YT Music Channels ;-)

Those numbers have already changed (both on the actual channel and the page you linked to).

BTW: I am kind of shocked that Skrillex is the #8 most subscribed channel, and had never even HEARD of Spinnin' Records (#7) before today. 

That last shows that as much as we act like the US is the whole world.. it's not. If you sort by most views and look at their videos, Spinnin' Records seems to be Eurotrash videoes. 

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Sharpie66

Sharpie66

When I Fall video is on YouTube:

Kevin's rap in the middle of the song is very self-referential, and an interesting take on where he is at in his life right now:

You're having visceral reactions to my poison being

This triptyq love just rushing through your heart IV

Another show, another city

Your rhythm hollow feeling empty???

Stranded

Feel this void without my queen

Mark my words PTX on the grind

Caught up with all these world tours

But that fame goes

You’re my Julie-O

Round and around I fall for you

Even though that your "ai" will "bu xia qu" (Chinese for your love will not continue)

If you are in the ring for another round let me know

We’ll call that a K.O.

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Geeze

Geeze

Just came off a self-imposed Pentatonix hiatus.  When I hit that first video, it was like coming up for air and discovering them all over again.  My ears love them more than ever.  The sounds............I'm a happy puppy.

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SrPab

SrPab

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Additionally, Pentatonix got the RIAA (U.S.) Gold album certification one year to the date of their Grammy win. An album of (mostly) original a cappella music selling 500,000 units + streaming equivalents in less than four months--how about that!

 

ETA: There are tweets floating about that their special guest for the upcoming tour is Us The Duo. I don't know if that means Us The Duo will open for them at every tour stop, or just select dates (perhaps only for U.S./Canada dates).

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