walnutqueen April 5, 2014 Share April 5, 2014 The whore with the heart of gold. I love her foul mouth and prickly disposition as much as I love her fierce loyalty. Link to comment
Wilowy April 5, 2014 Author Share April 5, 2014 Her Grandma Groundhog analogy had me rolling! Also loved how she was with Sophia, and her friendship with Alma. Hell, I loved her with everyone! Especially Sol... 1 Link to comment
walnutqueen April 5, 2014 Share April 5, 2014 Especially with Sol, yes - but her relationship with Al Swearengen was so much more fascinating to watch. I do think those two were the star-crossed lovers, in some strange way. Link to comment
Wilowy April 5, 2014 Author Share April 5, 2014 They were both such damaged people. In a way, though, before everyone else got there... Al was like the head figure of the men in the camp, and Trixie was in charge of the whores, so they had kind of a king/queen dynamic going on. A very crude, bottom-feedery kind of hierarchy, but still. I liked how he came to grips with her being with Sol, though. That scene where he bemusedly watches them off the balcony as they are making their way down the thoroughfare holding hands, Trixie in her new dress? I've never loved Al more. 1 Link to comment
Wilowy April 6, 2014 Author Share April 6, 2014 When we first see Trixie, she's hysterical and in a pathetic state, having just killed some cocksucker john who was beating her, and cowering in fear as to what Al may do to her. By show's end, she's all up in everyone's business, and practically running the camp with Al, while learning accounting at the Hardware store. Finds a best friend in the camp's leading businesswoman: And she gets WAY better hair: Of all the women in the camp, she's one I admire the most. She takes all life dishes out, is terrified of it actually, but never lets it stop her. 2 Link to comment
walnutqueen April 6, 2014 Share April 6, 2014 Of all the women in the camp, she's one I admire the most. She takes all life dishes out, is terrified of it actually, but never lets it stop her. And she does it all with the most fanfuckingtastic foul mouth. I love her. 2 Link to comment
walnutqueen April 15, 2014 Share April 15, 2014 I was just watching the scene where Trixie returns to Al at 2am after overdosing. She lays the gold nugget on the bedstand (just like she'd laid the gun there previously), and when he grabs her arm and forces her to show him the needle track, she slaps him, continues undressing, and gets into bed Not one word was spoken in that scene, yet Trixie and Al can communicate just as easily with words as without. They truly understand each other at a deep level. Link to comment
Catherinewriter April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Trixie to the world in general, after Sol asks her if she wants help with her decimals: "Tread lightly, those who live in hope of pussy." Also hee 4 Link to comment
Wilowy April 29, 2014 Author Share April 29, 2014 I was just watching the scene where Trixie returns to Al at 2am after overdosing. She lays the gold nugget on the bedstand (just like she'd laid the gun there previously), and when he grabs her arm and forces her to show him the needle track, she slaps him, continues undressing, and gets into bed Not one word was spoken in that scene, yet Trixie and Al can communicate just as easily with words as without. They truly understand each other at a deep level. See I see that as her meekly coming back to his bed with a peace offering. Like: Yeah, fucker, I'm back and I'm fucking sorry. The fact she slaps him is nothing to either of them, except Trixie reclaiming her side of his bed. She lies down with an expression of fear, like 'what if he doesn't accept me back?'. I see the slap as false bravado on her part, and Al, wanting things normalized, goes along. They DO speak each other's language, but I don't think either of them believes they are on even ground. 1 Link to comment
Catherinewriter April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 The other thing she does, which I missed in the original showings, is bring back that huge chunk of gold. I'm trying to remember if this is the first time Al knows that Alma's claim is a keeper. Or did he already know it? If not, then Trixie is really betraying Alma. I hate to think that. Does anyone remember one way or the other? Link to comment
walnutqueen April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Al knew. Remember he sent Dan to lead Ellsworth & Bullock to the area of her claim where the gold vein was when they first went to check it out? Link to comment
Catherinewriter April 29, 2014 Share April 29, 2014 Okay, except I thought he (Al) was also still trying to find out how rich it was. So Trixie didn't betray her, that's good to know. I have a problem with her not getting away from Al (she could have done it with Sol if she didn't want to do it alone), but that's my problem. Link to comment
Wilowy April 29, 2014 Author Share April 29, 2014 Had Sol tried to take Trixie away from the very beginning, I have no doubt Al would have killed her, or made Sol pay him an astronomical sum for her. Al softened towards the two of them by the end, but at first? He saw Sol as usurper, as far as Trixie was concerned. I think Sol was hugely instrumental in his own quiet way, in getting Al to see Trixie as a person, instead of property. 1 Link to comment
Kel Varnsen August 27, 2015 Share August 27, 2015 I watched the season 2 two part premiere last night and realized something I am not sure I noticed before. In the scene where Seth goes to get his badge/gun and hat back Charlie/Jane and Sol are backing him up, and Trixie has a rifle at the other side of the street. It is never really spelled out, but I am pretty sure she has the rifle pointed at Bullock. That way if things started to go south she could shoot him before anyone else got hurt. Especially since she spent the rest of the episode complaining about how much of a selfish idiot Seth is, plus there is the fact that there are people on both sides she cares about (obviously not Bullock though). Link to comment
FormerMod-a1 July 2, 2016 Share July 2, 2016 I love that she's the one that finally decided to try to kill Hearst. Too bad she only hit his shoulder. 2 Link to comment
nyxy July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 Though the post about Trixie's gun is from a year ago, I just wanted to say I don't think she pointed it at Bullock in that scene. I think her primary goal is to protect Sol, so she's there as backup if gunfire ensues. Targeting Seth won't accomplish anything surely. I was rooting for Trixie throughout the series but got so angry with her at the very end. She really fucked up. She didn't intend the outcome, and wasn't the person responsible for the evil in general, but still it was through her thoughtlessness that someone else had to pay. Bullock managed to control himself. She couldn't. 1 Link to comment
Kel Varnsen July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 13 hours ago, nyxy said: Though the post about Trixie's gun is from a year ago, I just wanted to say I don't think she pointed it at Bullock in that scene. I think her primary goal is to protect Sol, so she's there as backup if gunfire ensues. Targeting Seth won't accomplish anything surely. It has been awhile since I thought of this but who else would she be aiming at? There is no way ever she is going to be able to bring herself to shoot Al, and probably not Dan either. And throughout the series she hated Seth and his temper/attitude. Shoot Seth before things escalate and he shoots anyone else and no one she actually cares about gets hurt. 1 Link to comment
nyxy July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 (edited) Good point. It's pure speculation on my part but since she is the one who roused Sol, armed him, and got him over there, she's done it to support Seth. Why else would she want Sol there? She knows that no matter what the risk is to him, Sol will shoot Al if Al hits Seth. No way would Sol ever shoot Seth if Al got hit. So the fact that she brings Sol over suggests to me that if asked to choose, she'll chose the Seth/Sol team over Al. I think what she was trying to guard against was the contingency of Al shooting Seth; Sol trying to shoot Al in retaliation and then being outgunned; Sol having to confront Al all by himself or with only Charlie and Jane for back up. I think she's joining the team of Sol-Charlie-Jane-Seth here. I agree she was royally pissed off at Seth, but I also think when it comes to absolute morality, which matters to Trixie, she knows that Seth is on the right side of things and Al isn't. In this case, as she and we find out later, Al has chosen for practical purposes to forge an alliance with Seth & be on the right side morally. At this point no one knows that Al is ready to forge that alliance. She still might not have a problem standing with Al if it were a confrontation between Al and Seth. But Sol's presence means she has thrown in her lot with Seth and Sol. And the really interesting thing to me is that she is the one who brought Sol into the pic, knowing he's going to support Seth, and knowing also that he will endanger himself in so doing. If she was prepared to turn the gun on Seth, I don't see why she would wake up a medicated and woozy headed Sol and bring him into this very dangerous scene. I also always saw her irritation at Bullock as the kind that people who are on the same side of things develop toward each other. She dislikes him because his friends, esp Sol, are endangered as a result of the choices Seth makes. Seth's sanctimoniousness annoys the heck out of her, and she knows that his friends will jump to protect him (as Charlie and Sol have while the shootout was going on). But maybe she's also seeing that his friends would support him even if he doesn't ask for their help- he certainly didn't in this episode. In fact he tried to dissuade them. So because Trixie does have some sense of fairness she probably recognizes that Seth can't be blamed for his friends' decision to stand up for him. Disliking Seth doesn't mean abandoning the side he's on. I think her extreme irritation at Seth is the kind that comrades within the same team might develop toward each other while reluctantly conceding that they share the same goals/moral outlook, etc. I don't see any other reason for her to wake up Sol when he is woozy-headed with meds and doesn't even know that Seth is planning to commit a suicide-by-Al in going back to Al for the badge and gun. And after waking Sol, she arms him, and brings him to the confrontation- and they all think it could go down badly; no one knows that Al will make a peace offering. Trixie cares a lot for Sol, so for her to bring him into danger means she thinks that this is the only right thing to do. And given that she is tacitly admitting that Seth is on the right side of morality. On a personal level she might be more attached to Al than to Seth but I think the whole moral situation matters to Trixie, and if principles and ethics were involved, she'd choose Seth/Sol over Al. She knows how much evil Al is capable of & when necessary she has taken personal risk (and paid for it) by acting against Al. For example, she feels very responsible for Sophia and she knows what Al was planning for Sophia and Alma (and she explicitly defied his instructions to her). She paid for that defiance. So she is willing to stand up to Al in a way that none of his other followers are. It's hard for me to imagine Dan ever going against Al, even when he's horrified at what Al is asking him to do- eg Dan crying when he's asked to kill Sophia but then going along. Except for one crucial exception, and that is Jen, Charlie also goes along with Al's plans. In contrast, Trixie defies Al all the time. I think this standoff in season 2 episode one established once and for all that she would take an unequivocal stand against Al if necessary. All the above is JMO- and it's all speculation. I've watched the episodes recently but only once, so I could be wrong on many details! Apologies if that's the case. Edited July 16, 2016 by nyxy Link to comment
nyxy July 28, 2016 Share July 28, 2016 On July 16, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Kel Varnsen said: It has been awhile since I thought of this but who else would she be aiming at? There is no way ever she is going to be able to bring herself to shoot Al, and probably not Dan either. And throughout the series she hated Seth and his temper/attitude. Shoot Seth before things escalate and he shoots anyone else and no one she actually cares about gets hurt. Kel, I'm here to eat humble pie and say I was wrong and you are right.Her gun is pointed at Bullock. But now none of her actions make sense to me P- waking up Sol,etc. this question also just came up on the S2e2 thread. It does leave a few qns in the air imo. On another note, I apologize to all for the repetition in my post. I wrote that post twice thinking the first version was lost when it seemed to have blipped off my screen. I guess it didn't. Then the two versions blended. And it's too late to go back and edit. Sorry folks. Link to comment
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