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Here there be SPOILERS for S5.

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I found a delightful website for those who don't mind, nay, love spoilers.

 

The author, bless him, is up to S5, E5 and E6.

 

I put "spoilers" in the subject heading because -- if anyone else goes there and reads them -- we will be safe to discuss them here.

 

Website: https://wandywatson.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/spiral-engrenages-season-5-episodes-1-and-2/

 

Be sure to thank Wandy Watson.  You have to log in but he's probably one of the most courteous people on the whole Internet if experience tells me anything.  (He responds personally to every comment and is always polite and gracious.)

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I love spoilers so --- this is like an oasis in a desert for me.

 

If you read them, shapeshifter, I'll be here to discuss if I can be!  

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Just finished all 12 episodes of Saison Cinq.  Come on....there must be some Engrenages fans out there!  Come, let's talk.  This really is la français version of The Wire. Amazing amazing show.  When you get to the end of episode 12, you will need serious therapy. 

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On April 24, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Wilson Cat said:

Just finished all 12 episodes of Saison Cinq.  Come on....there must be some Engrenages fans out there!  Come, let's talk.  This really is la français version of The Wire. Amazing amazing show.  When you get to the end of episode 12, you will need serious therapy. 

No kidding. I yelled at the tv: "They ended it there!?"

One of my favorite shows for sure. I saw it was on hulu but recently subscribed to MHz Choice and watched it there. I had never heard of it but it's the perfect service for me. Anyhow, another great season. Though crushing loss of a main character. Ugh. 

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I love this show so damn much and have already watched the entire fifth season. It really is The Wire in Paris.

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When is season 6 scheduled for release, 2017? Does anyone know which month or season it is released in France? I sort of wish I hadn't started watching until it was out because the ending of this season is a bit much to wait out.

I'm torn as to how I feel about the show overall. I started it less than a week ago, and plowed through all 5 seasons with barely a rest, but it doesn't hold up like The Wire for me. There are similarities, but The Wire always accomplished its stories with quite a bit of subtlety, with attention spread out among many of the characters, and always with an eye toward realistic development. Spiral let me down with some of its "drama" this season - it made quick, cheap turns (and I'm not even thinking of Pierre). The Wire never would have had the pregnant woman running full force at a woman with a box cutter sticking out, and they would have put a tracker in a bag of real money (and had all exits covered from the drop-off scene) instead of hoping the sociopathic gang wouldn't kill the child after finding a bag of mostly paper. You don't really have to pay the ransom, but you do set it up so that you appear to and then make certain they can't go anywhere with it. Make them think they've gotten away with it, then strike -- that's the Wire way!

I guess there's enough of the show that I really love that I wish they would tighten up the character's and story lines. For instance, a woman drinking and smoking and working almost 24/7 with a placental abruption in her first trimester would not make it to the second trimester without major intervention. And wouldn't Gilou be fired for his 100th mistake that cost someone their life or a case?! I'm glad Tintin was around more and Laure finally let go whatever it was she was holding against him. 

The whole Jaulin plot was very odd. Even though he wasn't his wife and daughter's murderer, why was everyone walking on eggshells (and Roban essentially reprimanded) around him because he was only a wife beater and only caused the death of his lawyer? That's not innocent nor appropriate for the caretaker of a small child! The guy's entire reasoning for why he had ("understandably"???) killed Pierre, was that he never should have been in custody. Sorry, but as someone who thinks there are far too many people in prison, there was nothing crazy about him waiting there until more of the case was known, and certainly you don't get a pass for murder (even if he didn't pull the trigger, it was still all him) because you simply won't stand for being in jail. That's nuts! And why his son was happily reunited made no sense as an end point. He was still violent, unstable, filming porn, living in a hotel, made a habit of stealing money from his estranged wife, had killed someone more-or-less, and acted like a wronged brat throughout.

I know I'm hard on the show, but season 4 holds up better really jmho.

Speaking of The Wire & France, I just started season 2 of The Tunnel and did a true Scooby-doo "Huh?" at seeing none other than Lester!?!?!?!

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