Mr. Sparkle May 18 Share May 18 (edited) Airs Sunday, May 18th. Negan tries something new with The Croat; Maggie travels into a dangerous, surprising place. Edited May 18 by Mr. Sparkle Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/
heisenberg May 19 Share May 19 (edited) For the first half I was off to the point to ask myself "should I quit?". Hershel storyline came in and it's getting intesting. My "Hearth" is back into it I guess.❤️🩹😆 Edited May 19 by heisenberg Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8665792
Jaundiced Eye May 19 Share May 19 I'm confused. Did I miss the part where Herschel somehow ended up with the crazy old woman? How did that happen, or did they not yet reveal the timeline? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8666275
gutbuster May 20 Share May 20 1 hour ago, Jaundiced Eye said: I'm confused. Did I miss the part where Herschel somehow ended up with the crazy old woman? How did that happen, or did they not yet reveal the timeline? Those were flashbacks to last season when Maggie went to Manhattan to search for Herschel in the first place. Herschel was kept by the old lady during that time. So now they're showing us a bit of what he went through and why he's acting kind of weird now. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8666389
Mr. Sparkle May 20 Author Share May 20 It was easy to see how the old lady manipulated Hershel and got into his head. This is definitely the most interesting part of the show. Negan and the Croat have potential. The mainlanders are all played by terrible actors. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8666446
nodorothyparker May 20 Share May 20 The tunnel o' walkers and walkers in the tall grass were nice set pieces but good gods are the mainlanders terrible at this. Bad Haircut is played by an actress who did well enough on Orange is the New Black but her line readings here are only slight less bad than her utter delusion that a bunch of conscripts who haven't managed to do much but get blown up or eaten can still really accomplish anything but continue to get blown up or eaten. Still don't understand how one old lady wields all this power over all these assorted lunatics and hangers on and frankly her neverending musings about art and culture are ringing tediously pretentious after watching her gut someone who did show a genuine love of art at the end of the world. But she does seem to know what to say to Herschel to get into his head, so maybe there's something there. The less said about the Central Park weirdos the better. At least we're not going to have to sit through some star-crossed teenage romance with zombies as I originally feared they were setting up, so that's something I guess. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8666503
Mr. Sparkle May 20 Author Share May 20 10 hours ago, nodorothyparker said: Bad Haircut is played by an actress who did well enough on Orange is the New Black but her line readings here are only slight less bad Yeah, I liked her on OITNB, but she's terrible here, even worse than the "Colonel," who I swear was the sheriff last season. It's telling that I have no idea what his name is. They got decimated just trying to get to the island, so the 15 or so that are left are going to fight everyone and take the methane? Sure, Jan. So obvious she's going to try to take power from the "Colonel," who will probably come over to the good guy's side. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8666688
nodorothyparker May 20 Share May 20 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr. Sparkle said: she's terrible here, even worse than the "Colonel," who I swear was the sheriff last season. It's telling that I have no idea what his name is. I only know his name is Armstrong from the wiki. He was the marshal sent to bring back Negan last season and was promoted to colonel because he claimed he caught and killed Negan, conveniently without being required to produce any proof. That should make for an awkward conversation should any of our mainlander crew survive long enough for the inevitable meetup. I still have no idea who the "good guys" are really supposed to be in this. That was one of the main problems with the marshal-now-colonel's story last season too. Were we even supposed to like him or was Negan right that he was just a dick? He was sent to bring in and/or execute Negan by the ambiguously shady New Babylon crew for what may have been some justified killings but whiffed on it while taking credit for it after hanging out with Negan a bit in the first NYC sojourn. Edited May 20 by nodorothyparker 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8667097
Mr. Sparkle May 21 Author Share May 21 Thanks. I remember the marshal looking for Negan, and that's about it. He was a dick last season, but it seems like he might be getting a redemption arc, with Bad Haircut being the villain. I have to assume Maggie is the good guy here, so whoever she happens to be aligned with is the "good side." Negan is as ambiguous as they want to make him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8667165
heisenberg May 21 Share May 21 On 5/19/2025 at 10:22 PM, nodorothyparker said: The tunnel o' walkers and walkers in the tall grass were nice set pieces but good gods are the mainlanders terrible at this. That's the part I hated the most. The second I saw them heading to that field I knew what was coming. I still haven't found the interaction with the tunnel and the walkers stuck in the foliage. On 5/19/2025 at 10:22 PM, nodorothyparker said: Still don't understand how one old lady wields all this power over all these assorted lunatics and hangers on and frankly her neverending musings about art and culture are ringing tediously pretentious after watching her gut someone who did show a genuine love of art at the end of the world. I know right? It would take two seconds to put her out but nobody seems to have the guts to do so, why? On 5/19/2025 at 10:22 PM, nodorothyparker said: But she does seem to know what to say to Herschel to get into his head, so maybe there's something there. Herschel could agree with her for a better world but I guess he will work out the rest by himself. I find it interesting to discover who he is after all those years beeing a side character beside his sister. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8667246
iarwain May 21 Share May 21 I'm a little curious when these Hershel flashbacks are supposed to be set. Is this before or after the Croat cut off his toe? Talk about playing good cop/bad cop. Also, are they trying to say that Hershel actually designed aspects of the city, like the bridges they built to get across from one skyscraper to another without having to go down to the ground? I don't get why Dama was playing Satie when she said last week she hated art from the past. Unless she just hates Bach specifically for some reason. Or maybe it was just background music. Oh well. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8667901
millennium May 23 Share May 23 Ugh. When did this become the Herschel show? The character is even duller than Glen, with a side of petulance. Dama's looking more and more like the Cryptkeeper. Hope Maggie's the one who gets to kill her because every time I see the old lady cozying up to Herschel I think "Save the Dama for your mama!" 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8669382
iarwain May 23 Share May 23 10 hours ago, millennium said: Dama's looking more and more like the Cryptkeeper. Hope Maggie's the one who gets to kill her because every time I see the old lady cozying up to Herschel I think "Save the Dama for your mama!" Maybe Negan and Maggie can do one of those "You kill my problem and I'll kill yours" types of deals. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153604-s02e03-why-did-the-mainlanders-cross-the-river/#findComment-8669696
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