Bishop

Regarding Nikolas/Britt/Liz: Liz can't say "boo" to Nikolas because she told him she wasn't interested in him and moved on to Ric when she very easily could have had Nikolas. So she can't be telling anyone what they can or can't do. Nikolas is in love with two women, and admitted as much. He doesn't get a pass because he doesn't know about Britt's plan with Spencer (a ridiculous writing plot point, btw). He has a mind, and he could say "no," and he not only didn't say no, he went for it. You can't blame that on Britt. Lastly, Britt is not self-aware. How can she not know that this isn't going to end well? I think Britt has such low self-esteem that she will take whatever crumbs she can get. Let's face it, with Obrecht and Faison as parents, she doesn't have good role models to look up to, and her mother encourages her scheming (as does Brad). It doesn't let Britt off the hook by any means, but I get her motives. Carly and Sonny: Sorry, but I like them together. They work. They make sense because because they are so selfish and dysfunctional that they actually compliment each other. I also think MB and LW have great chemistry and they seem to enjoy their scenes together. Nina/Franco: They work for me too because they have no baggage together and are essentially new characters in scenes together. I think RH and MS have chemistry as well, but I don't want her to continue to eat the show alive. Nathan/Dante/Lulu/Maxie - I love this foursome, and I love the friendships and the romantic pairings. More please. Michael/Tracy/Ned - I love anything where Michael isn't sucked under by the horrible Kiki Jerome. So his scenes with Tracy were great because he didn't back down and the secret about Fluke and Tracy trying to take over ELQ was thwarted (for now). It thought the scenes with Michael and Tracy were good. Now I just need more of Ned and Michael to plot against Fluke, and I'll be happy. I like seeing more of ELQ and the Quartermaines. I am also liking the Ned and Olivia pairing, btw. Morgan/Rosalie and Ava/Kiki - those scenes bored me.

I think that guy was shooting and killing anyone that had the illness, which is why he shot that woman. I beleive that the dead guy in the machine shop was only dead a short while since the gunmen were still outside. So if he had the illness, it would still be airborne. I mean when the Nathan James crew went aboard the Italian ocean liner, there were a lot of dead people, and they still had to wear their masks. Also, did the wife (what's her name?) see the dead body? I got the impression that she didn't realize it was there, but only that the audience saw him.

I seem to recall that there was an attraction/connection at one point between Karen and Ben, and she kissed him. So the spike technology with the emotions and the super powers has been shown in previous episodes. I tend to agree that I don't see why the story has to make Maggie a part alien character, but maybe it's an effort to not isolate Ben so much. He is definitely the outsider of the brothers. I'm beginning to wonder if Hal is going to be the Mason to die this or next season. I don't mind the triangle right now because it hasn't interfered with the storytelling. After Hal caught them kissing, he punched his brother, and the two were back to working together to dig out the beamer - and neither wanted to discuss it with Tom. Typical brother reactions. I'm sure the Espheni and the Volm have/will compensate for a moon that circles the Earth. If they can accomplish space travel and sophisticated weaponry, a revolving moon won't stymie them. Well it is kind of nutty from the human perspective. I thought the scene played out well because none of the 2nd Mass are astronauts nor have they ever traveled beyond the confines of the planet. So even though they are being invaded by aliens, it is a bit crazy to think that they can go to the moon and battle the aliens there. At the same time, as you clearly stated, Tom and the 2nd Mass are standing amongst a partly operational spacecraft that DOES move in and out of orbit, and they are among space allies that landed a big ass spaceship just a few months earlier. I guess at some point, the show would have to move to expand the fight to beyond Earth's boundaries, and if it's just to the moon, I'm okay with that. Sci-fi shows have always had this problem. No show has ever been able to survive it completely because logic and science has to be stretched at times to make the stories work, and I'm okay with that. I don't watch these shows because they are so realistic in every aspect. I watch them for the human element, frankly. Is this something that could happen, and if it did happen, would the characters react (mostly) in a similar way. I think Falling Skies has done it fairly well. I believe these characters and their motivations. The 2nd Mass does come across as a scrappy, bite and claw kind of resistance movement rather than a super efficient, polished fighting military machine, and I think the former makes them much more interesting. Well said. That's how I took the scene as well. Tom asked him how he could betray his people the way he did, and as you stated, I think he had to believe the propaganda because he knows he turned in his own mother. At the end, I think he knew that he had done wrong because his final moments were like a confession. I hadn't taken it that way until you said it, but that's exactly what he was doing. He confessed his sin to Tom, and it seemed like he wanted forgiveness for it. It made the character go from a cliche villain into a sad human being that I felt empathy for, and it was reflected in Tom's reaction as well.

I don't see Chandler as vying for Dr. Scott's heart. He's clearly loyal to his wife and family, and he hasn't made a move in Rachel's direction (even Tex commented on that). If anything, I would say that Dr. Scott has a thing for the Captain. She worries about him, and when he was missing on the island (when getting the monkeys) and when he was lost at sea, her response was "Where's the Captain?" not "Where's Tex and the Captain?" She tends to seek him out. Just something I noticed. I think Chandler certainly sees her as an attractive, competent, very intelligent woman, but he is all about his wife and family, and I like that, and I like that Rachel respects it. There is no flirting going on between them, but I think she likes him. Yeah, I think the producers/writers have to see the chemistry between the two characters and the actors. So I don't think the Captain's wife is long for this world, and frankly, the show doesn't need her. I also don't know how the show is going to weave in one or both of Chandler's kids into the story, but then again, Topher's daughter is on the ship as well. So maybe the Last Ship will become a safe harbor of sorts for families since it looks like the general population is going to be a violent place to live. Maybe Chandler's father will survive and look after the brood and be there as counsel for Chandler (similar to Jericho). I'm guessing the show is still trying to figure it all out. LOL, I did notice those similarities with Pope and Tex, but Tex is more lovable. I like that both shows follow each other. One is an apocalyptic show with the chaos happening now, and the other is a post-apocalyptic show. I love them both. I got a friendly vibe from the hug as well. Like I said, both are respecting the boundaries, but I don't blame them for the hug. They have both been through the ringer for the last few months. People have died, been captured, been shot, etc., and they've finally found a cure that literally save the world. It was an emotional moment. I liked it. I can tell you what I don't want to see, however, and that's two women being jealous over the Captain or fighting. We don't need a triangle. I say kill off the wife because we have not bonded with her as a character, and let the story progress with Chandler and Dr. Scott. I think Chandler needs to lose someone, since everyone else has lost someone. It's similar to the Tom Mason situation on Falling Skies. His whole family is still intact, and on The Last Ship, the same is true of Captain Chandler. So it's necessary sometimes to shake up the main characters and raise the stakes. I can't believe we are already at the season finales of these shows. The summer went fast!

He only became a spy for the Russians because they took his family. It's why he told Slattery that he would help him as long as he killed Ruskov when it was all over. He never sold out his family to the Russians. They kidnapped his family and used them to get Quincy to do what they wanted. It's why Quincy was so angry at Chandler when he thought he had gotten his family killed.

I wasn't too sure about the power source being on the moon, but if you really think about it: If you're an alien race trying to take over a planet, and the humans you are fighting have no way to get to the moon, and they keep destroying stuff you bring to earth, I think I would put my power source on the moon too. Sounds logical to me. As for Tom's plan, yeah it's crazy, but he's also right that they don't have the time or resources to go from Espheni ghetto to Skitter farm and free pockets of humans. They need to take out the whole thing in one run. In addition, the 2nd Mass DOES have access to a beamer AND the Volm, who are quite accustom to interstellar travel. So that actually works for me. I mean I'd rather throw everything into one crazy plan with the help of a superior alien ally then try and keep fighting my way from skirmish to skirmish. The 2nd Mass is now down to a handful of people, and even Tom and Anne mentioned that they don't know how much time they have left - ultimately. So why not go all in with a crazy but-it-just-might-work, kind of plan. I agree that the Tom and Anne parts were the best, and I like that both actually had good arguments. I always found Tom and Anne's relationship to be the most credible and adult on Falling Skies. They act the way I expect adults to act, and their arguments and reconciliations are organic to me. I am glad that they finally got married. It was time. I actually like the Ben/Maggie relationship. I feel bad for Ben because he's been an outcast for so long, and he can't help it if he's attracted to Maggie. He didn't act on his feelings for her at all or go behind Hal's back. Even last night, Maggie kissed him, but I'm proud of him for not pursuing her further when he realized her new found attraction for him was all based on the new alien transplant in her spikes. He immediately shut her down. Good for him. Yeah, the Matt and Mira thing was a set up that we saw a mile away, but I was happy to see Tom, Weaver, and Anne recognize the lie immediately. I get why Matt didn't see it. He's 13, and he wants to believe his friend wasn't changed. I was a bit surprised to see Tom shoot and kill a kid, but hey, they were shooting at him. I also enjoyed how Tom and Anne joked at the end about how crazy it was for her to just go out there with a target on her back, no weapon, in order to save Tom. Yeah, sometimes you'll risk everything to save the person you love. I bought it. I also enjoyed Cochise and Shaq in this episode, and hope they survive. Sunday is my favorite night of television: The Last Ship, then Falling Skies, then the Strain. Great night of summer television for me.

I'm not. The Last Ship is really about how to do you rebuild a world after a plague that eliminates 80% of the world population. I'm glad they found the cure by the end of the season because now it's about building a society and traveling to other countries to provide the cure as well. This show can go on for a number of years. No, the virus was always airborne. The crewman from the Nathan James fell down a flight of stairs cracking his mask, and he also touched the dead body and was physically exposed to the man's fluids. It was a double-whammy of death. Even if he had not gotten the blood on him, he was exposed the minute his mask was compromised. As I understand it, the vaccine and the cure are one in the same. The cure is in the blood stream of all the survivors as their bodies create antibodies that is fighting off the infection. She injected the six with the vaccine, but it didn't work at first because she forgot that the virus had been weaponized using the human gene from Neal. That's why the monkey was fine - no human weaponized gene. With the human gene in their bodies, the virus began turning on the human cells. So by using the primordial sample, which did not contain Neal's human genome, and injecting that into the five survivors, it masked Neal's human gene, and allowed the antibodies in the five remaining survivors to fight the virus and kill it. Now they are all immune. Does Dr. Scott even need the vaccine? Wouldn't anyone who is injected with the vaccine and the primordial strain be a carrier of the cure? If so, then people (and other nations) can just take a survivor from the Nathan James and use their blood to create the vaccine, no? My guess is that before the Nathan James lands in the US, everyone will have been vaccinated and built up an immunity, making each member of the crew a walking vaccine. That's the way I understood it anyway. I did too. He is very much the Captain around his crew, but around Dr. Scott (and Tex), he's able to lower his defenses because they are not Navy. I think that's also why the wife may be infected. The show would be crazy not to tap into the chemistry between Chandler and Dr. Scott (and Eric Dane and Rhona Mitra). My guess is that the wife will ultimately die, but his kids will survive. I can cut the wife a little slack because she has to feed the kids, and the chances of them NOT getting sick is getting slimmer and slimmer. She can wipe down as many things as she wants, but the chances of getting the disease when everyone has it, AND you have to hunt for supplies, makes your prospects of remaining untouched more difficult. I don't think the wife was expecting armed men to storm the store, which made her be more careless, but who is to say that she didn't wipe everything down? She was still out and about and could have gotten infected from any number of things. Even the grandfather could have been infected just by being around that guys house. A simple mask covering his face while he spray painted the house with a red "x" isn't really going to save him. I have really enjoyed this show a lot this summer.

I believe Rhona Mitra stated in an interview regarding that scene that Rachel is not accustom to guns, and she was simply inexperienced. This is why after she killed the guy that she was in a bit of shock. Chandler had to talk her down a bit and that was realistic to me. I know we see a lot of gun battles and killing, but if you've never actually blown a guy's head off, it's going to shock you and put you in a bit of a panic. Throw in that she's a doctor too, who usually takes care of people, she was out of her element. I'm glad the scene wasn't played like "Yeah, no big deal. I took out a bad guy." I like Dr. Scott a lot. She got the job done that she was sent to do: 1) get the message to Chandler; 2) keep the Russians occupied; and 3) use the gun when and if necessary. I don't agree with this. How is the husband responsible for what happened to his wife? I'm not a big Quincy fan, but he tried desperately to ave his wife and child, and it doesn't make him less of a man because he was unable to do it. As for the wife, I don't think she'll ever tell her husband. I wouldn't tell him (and I'm a woman). I'd keep it to myself and lie to him. (I'm not sure how much the daughter understood.) I was happy to see Chandler go back for the wife and daughter because as a husband and a father of a daughter himself, there was no way he was going to leave her with Ruskov. I think Chandler also suspected what was happening when he saw them at the table. Maybe. Ruskov clearly has this idea of what women should be, considering how he treated Quincy's wife. I think Rachel played that scene perfectly because she didn't hesitate. The minute she saw Chandler, she made her move which didn't allow for any dialogue or awkward conversation. In that regard, I found it realistic. She acted as if she was so happy to see him, that she kissed him, and that's how Ruskov took it. Tex did too. If Rachel had waited and allowed conversation to take place, it would have been more awkward for her to squeeze in a kiss that would be believable. By kissing him immediately, there was no time for any one to really react or deny or question anything. Chandler was also smart in staying focused. When they were pulled apart, they exchanged looks with each other - not of love - but of mission accomplished. It's one of the very few times when a kiss has been used to pass something to someone where it felt realistic and organic. I always chuckle when a woman kisses a guy tied to a chair and NO ONE notices her passing him something in his hand. That's much more suspicious to me. This kiss between Chandler and Rachel worked, and I liked that the two of them were all business even afterwards. I guess we'll see if it's even mentioned in the next episode.

Yes we do. And I have no interest AT ALL in a Jason recast, especially when there is no need whatsoever for the character to return. When AJ was around? Yeah, it would have been great. Now? Not so much, and if the rumors are true as to who will be playing Jason - it's going to be even more horrible.

Today was good for the most part, although the three-way with the guys is getting ridiculous. RC thinks he's cute, and he really isn't. I loved Olivia telling Carly the cold, hard truth about Franco. I think RC just got tired of trying to spin his crap and is finally admitting that it was an epic fail. The life raft is finally in the water. Cranco is ending, and I don't even mind that Carson is restarting. The truth is that Carly and Sonny DO get each other. Killing people, covering it up, being ridiculously hypocritical? Yep, they are a match made in heaven. Franco actually works with Nina because they don't know each other, and they are both crazy. I thought Britt was great today. I think she should throw as much cold water on the horrible Niz pairing as she deems necessary since we know that the only reason Elizabeth is giving Nikolas the time of day is because Ric is gone and Nikolas is showing interest in Britt again. I don't care if Britt is being underhanded. Go for it! The wedding fiasco? I loved that too, but I am not happy that Mac got shot, and RC had BETTER NOT kill off Mac. At the rate that RC likes to kill off GH characters, he does have me a little worried. Afterall, RC has to make room for his next newbie: Jason Morgan even though he won't resemble Jason at all when RC is done with him. Hence the "newbie" title.

Chad does not look 15, and even when he started, he looked 18. Drew looked like he was barely in his teen years, and he was almost the same size as Kristina (in height, build, and baby face). Chad looks young, but he looks like an adult. I can buy him as a 23 year old, but Drew never could have pulled off 18. He would have been a good match, frankly, for Kristina or Molly had he not been cast as Sonny's son. I'm afraid of that happening too, and I really can't take Dante and Lulu in anymore baby/surgery storylines. Please save us all - and them! Nathan and Britt are my favorite newbie characters. They are the only ones that worked (apart from Julian and Ava). I think Nathan and Maxie will be fun together because Maxie is a firecracker, and she gets into trouble while Nathan is so straight laced. Just wait until he finds out who his father probably is, and wait until Britt finds out too.

And that's when I think the character finally got interesting. Drew Garrett could only play rage, and he was screaming his lines all the time. I actually couldn't stand the character because of it. He was also very slight in build and looked like he was perpetually 15 years old. So I was very happy for the change to CD, and he's done a good job when paired with the right people - and KA ain't it. RC is going to completely change and destroy every remnant of Jason Morgan that is even remotely familiar to the audience just so he can put someone new in the role and make that person the new "newbie." As far as I'm concerned, Jason Morgan died on the pier, and this "new" character is just the latest newbie on RC's list of toys. There was no reason AT ALL to bring back Jason Morgan. RC just wants another triangle, a soap star from another show that he can brag about landing, and a new character that he can completely change and mold so that the audience can't even recognize the character any more.

I like that Chandler goes on the missions. No it's not realistic, but this is a sort of post-apocalyptic scenario. I think a guest star had mentioned that the show is kind of Star Trek at sea, which I actually like frankly. As for the Russian captain dismissing Chandler for going on the mission, I thought it was amusing when he told Chandler that his "hubris would lead to his downfall." A bit of foreshadowing for the Russian Captain since it was HIS hubris and smugness that resulted in the destruction of his vessel and his Patient Zero escaping and infecting his entire ship - all while drinking his tea out of delicate porcelain tea cup.

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I think Chandler and Tex looked like they had been lost at sea for a while. They were both sunburned, and their lips were dried and white. They both could barely stand when they first brought onto the deck of the Russian ship, and even as the episode progressed, they still looked terrible. So kudos to the actors and the makeup department. That was very believable to me. I do like the buddy relationship between Chandler and Tex, and you're able to get better dialogue between them because Tex is not a navy sailor. So technically, he doesn't have to do anything Chandler tells him to do, but he does because he respects the Captain, and vice versa. Also, Tex can say things to Chandler that his crew can't technically say to him, which I also like. The kiss took my by surprise until I realized what was probably happening, and was later confirmed. I think Eric Dane and Rhona Mitra played that scene perfectly because it wasn't overdone and no lovey-dovey eye gazes. I DO think that Dr. Scott is attracted to the Captain (she worries about him too much), but she also is respectful of the fact that he's a married man, and I like that Tom does not send any mixed signals. I appreciate that the writing isn't playing that triangle angle. I do wonder how long Chandler's wife is going to last, however, because I do see actor/character chemistry with Chandler/Scott. I was happy that Chandler rescued the wife and daughter. He felt guilty for leaving them behind the first time, and since he has a wife and kids himself, he can empathize with what's-his-name was going through with having his wife as a prisoner on board the Russian ship. Throw in Ruskov's comments that the wife should be grateful that he didn't feed her to his crew, and it pretty much told Chandler what he would leave them to if they were left behind. Also, Chandler didn't have to deviate much from the escape plan to get to the officer's quarters. I liked that the show stated that Ruskov had given the wife and daughter his first officer's quarters, and then said the guy's name. That's how Chandler was able to find the room. The reunion between the family at the end was very touching. I also thought it was realistic that not everyone survived the escape. Rosetti dying was necessary in that there HAD to be a least one casualty. As for the Russians, there was only so much that scenario could be played out from episode to episode, and Dr. Scott was right when she told Slattery that Ruskov would follow them to the ends of the earth. I think that was largely why Slattery chose to destroy the Russian ship rather than just get his people off the vessel. I don't think it's the last we've seen of Ruskov, however. Patient X is still alive and has actively infected the entire Russian vessel. I can see Ruskov saving himself and getting off the ship somehow only to return later and seek revenge on Chandler at some point next year. I do hope he shows up again. I would like the show to also move beyond just showing events on the USS Nathan James and show what is actually happening back in the US (and around the world). It looks like the promos are showing that, and I think that's a good thing for the show. There's only so much you can show from the ship's perspective. In many ways, The Last Ship can go on for a number of years because even once they find a cure, 80% of the world's population is gone. So anarchy and the destruction of governments exist all over the world. It is, in many ways, an apocalyptic survival story about rebuilding.

CD is a good looking guy, and he only became a boring character once he was permanently joined to KA's Kiki of Suck. First it was as Starr Manning and that snorefest of an insta-romance, but it really got 1,000 times worse when CD got another year in character prison when he was stuck with KA as Kiki Jerome. Nothing can survive that particular vortex of suck. Even Morgan, who was much more interesting away from her, has become boring again watching him scrape paint off a wall at the brownstone with Kiki at his side and then having her - inexplicably - smack in the middle of the Alice crisis. I swear RC has no idea what to do with Kiki except interchange her with Michael and Morgan and then insert her into any scenes where both brothers exist. It looked to me like Levi struck Nathan on the side of the head and knocked him out. He seems to knock out everyone, but it doesn't bother me that Levi got the jump on Nathan because Levi clearly has a criminal past. This isn't his first day at the rodeo. The fact that he had a gun tells me that he's accustom to using violence. Nathan had no idea the extent of Levi's lies - including his false Aussie accent (kudos to the actor who plays Levi, btw). Nathan's size or the fact that he's a cop doesn't mean he can't get knocked down. Like I said, Levi clearly has a past in this sort of thing, and let's face it, the only reason that RC wrote Levi getting the drop on Nathan was to drag out the wedding drama.

No, you understood it just fine. That's what I saw too. Tom flat out admitted that he loses hope all the time, and he gets himself (his sons and the 2nd Mass) through by lying to himself all the time. I think Weaver does the same too. I thought the episode was good. It really showed a large portion of the remaining characters and gave time to each character in turn. We got the Hal/Maggie relationship, and I totally get why Hal would ignore Maggie's claims and want to save her. Maggie forgave him in the end, but not before punching him. I loved Anne's little jab about "I guess they're back to normal." (something like that). I liked the Ben/Lexi conversation, and how Ben finally sees his sister for what she is. I think the show needed to show the Mason family trying to believe in Lexi before giving up on her. It would have been very out of character for Tom, Ben, Matt, etc. to just turn their back on Lexi from the get go. Ben had faith that he could talk his sister down, but after seeing into her mind, and seeing that she has fully embraced her Espheni side, he abandoned her and told his father the same. I get why Anne wants to still believe in Lexi, since she didn't actually see what Ben saw at that processing plant, but I was glad that Tom isn't drinking the kool-aid. He acknowledged that Lexi had turned her back on her people, and that he and Anne owed it to the people who had not turned their back on humanity. Pope and Sarah were okay. I like Pope, but I'm not really embracing Sarah. She just seems like a side-kick character for Pope. Then again, i do like the fact that Pope has someone to bounce he feelings off of beyond his biker friends (who I think are all dead now). Lastly, it was good to get some backstory on Dingaan, which helps flesh out his character more. I know some commented on getting tired of seeing characters getting injected, morphed, or infected, but from what Eick was saying about the Espheni race, in general, the Espheni are completely obsessed with genetics and biotechnology. Everything about them is about those two elements. Their ships are bio technology, and their soldiers are genetically altered species from various worlds. So in that regard, it makes sense that there is a constant interaction and cross mutilation of the various species. I mean that's essentially what Lexi was showing Ben. It's how Anne is able to manipulate the medical equipment to take care of Maggie. It's how Tom was able to trip the hatch door to the beamer. It's all about genetics and biology.

Exactly. I don't think the show is suppose to be a super intelligent, realistic show. It's a summer popcorn show that I am enjoying. Yeah, if you pick it apart too much, it will collapse at the seams, but it's still entertaining. I agree with your analogy of "Sea Trek." Realistically, Captain Chandler would never go on any of the away missions, but then it would bore me if he was always on the ship. My favorite characters are Chandler, Tex, Slattery, and the Doc. I like the Chaplain too. So I can suspend disbelief as Chandler goes on more and more away missions. I'm fine with it. I do see that Doc Rachel is falling for the Captain, although he is not reciprocating. I like that too. There has to be some emotional beats in a story like this, and so I'm fine with the various interrelationships, as long as it doesn't devolve into soapyness. I've enjoyed the epsisodes thus far. It's good not to overthink them and just go for the ride. Count me in also as the girl's name being Patrice - regardless of what closed-captioned said. Her name was repeated several times, and each time, I heard "Patrice." That's a two-syllable name as compared to "Beatrice" which is three syllables. I'm not saying I'm right, but I'll stick with Patrice until the next episode and hope they clarify the name.

You seem to watching this only from the point of view of a science fiction show and not from the character's perspective (which is fine, but that's now how I watch it). Yes, Tom said he would deal with it, but Lexi started to walk away and then SUDDENLY killed Lourdes. No one, including Pope, was able to stop her. Could Tom have gone after Lexi? Sure, but do you really think he could have killed her? Are you saying that Tom should have killed Lexi while she was still in the cocoon? Yeah, maybe he should have, but he was hoping that she wouldn't be dangerous. Remember Ben? Remember how people were reacting about him? Should Tom have killed Ben too? I get the logic of your argument, but to completely dismiss the emotional connection of the characters ignores what is driving Tom in the first place. ALSO, Dan Weaver, Tom's most trusted friend, told Tom to stand by Lexi. So is Weaver wrong also or is it just Tom that's always wrong? My point is that the story is much more about fathers and daughters (both Tom and Weaver) and what they are willing to sacrifice to save them. Sometimes you want to believe your child isn't going to be an alien-hybrid murderer. Now Tom (and Weaver) know better. Hal wasn't all that keen on killing Karen, remember? And she did TONS of stuff to hurt the 2nd Mass and the Masons. Yet he wavered over and over again, and Tom killed her (and Maggie). It's why Hal was so pissed off at his father. It's hard to kill people you are emotionally connected to. Killing Lexi is not an easy task because it IS Tom's child, and he's got Anne and Ben and Weaver telling him to give her a chance. So would I listen to Pope and his constant "Let's kill people" mantra or would I listen to the people I trust? The bottom line is that Tom did give Lexi a chance, and she failed that test. Now if he is able to subdue Lexi (a big if), and then lets her go again, then yes, he'd be dead wrong. I believe that information was given to Hal, not Tom, and Hal never once shared that information with Tom or Weaver. So Tom and Weaver can't be blamed for information they didn't have. Also, I think it was Shaq who gave Hal that information, not Cochise. I agree with you on this point. Frankly, I'd rather Lexi turn evil and have the 2nd Mass take her out. Wouldn't that be a nice change for the usual sci-fi hybrid baby trope?. I have a feeling we're not going to get that, however. It would be a bold move for Eick to just let her embrace her Espheni side rather than watch the Masons try to find that sliver of humanity still left in her. I just hope the show doesn't devolve into the Lexi Show. I haven't seen that happen yet. Lexi's story is much more related to Anne than the rest of the characters.

It didn't strike me as "Yeah, I'm so glad to see you" either. There was a disconnect between Robin seeing Patrick, and I didn't feel anything from her that she was glad to see him. I mean she hadn't seen him in months right? Prior to that, give or take, she hadn't seen him in years. I can completely understand why Patrick feels like he doesn't matter to Robin. That came across loud and clear in yesterday's episode. Like I said, if the situation were reversed, and Patrick treated Robin like that, many people would be livid at how horribly he was treating Robin. If Robin loves Patrick and misses him and wants to be with him, it would be nice to see it, either in her facial expressions or her at least hugging him. We got nothing.

There is no excuse for Robin's lack of focus because she's telling Patrick that she wants to be with him but she can't be with him, and yet when she finally sees him in the flesh, her reaction is "Why are you here?" Contrast that reaction with how she was when she was still believed dead and she saw Patrick and Emma and her mother and Mac at the Nurses Ball. She was desperate to see them and she watched that video over and over again because she did miss them. Yesterday, she was annoyed. That's how it seemed to me. At this point, the marriage is over. She certainly put that nail in the coffin, and so if she's committed to Jason at this point, then that's fine, but Patrick has no reason at this point to stick around. Robin didn't show even an ounce of joy at seeing Patrick. Because it's a false argument, and Robin has much more power than she realizes. If Victor could find another doctor, he would have already. He needs Robin. So no, I don't believe that Victor would kill Robin or her family because if that happens, then Robin has no incentive to help Victor anymore. HOWEVER, if it's true that Victor has threatened Robin, and she is afraid, that still doesn't explain her lack of empathy for Patrick or the loss of his child. It's not Patrick's fault his child died either, and wanting to have the person you love most with you at such a difficult time is not unreasonable. I had more of an issue with Robin's lack of emotion with Patrick. I certainly had no problem with what Patrick was saying to her. Robin DOES care more about Jason than her family right now because she CHOSE him over her family. She just got back to her daughter after being "dead" for two years and then she leaves again to save Jason. When Patrick calls to tell her that Emma was in a car accident, Robin tells him that she can't leave that she's getting close to a breakthrough with Jason. When Gabriel dies, and Emma is upset that she lost her little brother, Robin still won't come home. So yeah, I can see why Patrick thinks that Robin cares more about Jason than her family. At first, I'm guessing that Patrick believed she couldn't get away, but now he finds out that she's only an hour away? At least TRY to make contact. How do you know she can't leave? Patrick and Sam got in with no problem. Just a few references and an ID card. She could have at least TRIED to call Patrick. That's the bigger sticking point for me. Maybe she can't leave, but she can't try to get a message to Patrick? The problem with this current storyline with Patrick and Robin is that I don't see any of the desperation to get to her family like she had when she was believed dead. Robin looks very content with her work and not so much with seeing Patrick. That's what I saw yesterday, and that's what Patrick saw too. True, but she's also not the prisoner that we all suspected either. She's walking around a medical facility, no guards at all, and that anyone can get into (see Patrick and Sam), and she's only an hour away. As for the Victor argument, I would have gone to Nikolas. Like I said earlier, Robin does have some wiggle room to negotiate because Victor DOES need her. Her skills are what's going to revive his family, and let me ask this: If Victor is going to allow Jason to live after he is "awakened," won't that expose Victor anyway? I mean, unless he plans on killing Robin, Patrick, and Jason - the three people who knows what he was doing - wouldn't the sudden arrival of Helena and Stavros make the rest of PC ask tons of questions? I mean the more you poke holes in the logic of this storyline, the more the storyline begins to sink. I don't think that the Robin has NO negotiating room. She does. She simply hasn't used it, and considering that she was kept captive for two years already, I would expect her to be much more feisty than she is with Victor. I think you can negotiate with Victor because she's the only person who can do what he needs to be done. Yesterday came across as her enjoying the work she was doing rather than being forced to do the work. I didn't see desperation or fear in Robin yesterday, not to get out, not to see her family, nothing. She seemed annoyed that Patrick was interrupting her work.

I don't agree. Robin is the only person who can bring back Victor's precious family, and he knows it. Robin has room to negotiate, and she could demand to see Patrick once a week. I did think she was being held against her will and unable to reach out to anyone, but not after yesterday. Yesterday showed that wasn't the case at all, which is WHY Patrick was so livid. No that was after she chose not to return home after Emma's accident. Patrick was taking Robin's calls, and he was trying to call her himself, leaving messages. His final straw was when Emma had her accident, and Robin wouldn't come home and then when Gabriel died and Robin wouldn't come home. After that, he was done. She had made her choice, and then YESTERDAY, he finds out that this whole time she's only been one hour away. Yeah, I'd be pissed too. I didn't see fear at all. I saw irritation because her questions were not fear based. If she was afraid for Patrick or even herself, she would have said "Patrick, it's not safe for you here. If they find you, they'll hurt you." I mean she had plenty of time to tell him to leave or to ask why he was there or how he got there and "Why are you with Sam?" So she had plenty of time to tell him what the danger, if any, was all about. She didn't. I got the distinct impression that she was annoyed because she was close to having a breakthrough with Jason, and Patrick was mucking it up.

It is stunning to me that Patrick is viewed as the bad guy in this because Robin's actions were beyond the pale. I'm not even much of a Patrick fan, but this "Patrick is a jerk and I want him to die" is laughable. I have several problems with this stuff, but these are them in a nutshell: 1. RC deserves all the blame for this crap because as one poster above rightly stated, when Robin left, it was under the impression that she was being held as some kind of prisoner somewhere and that she had no choice. But that's not exactly how it played out yesterday, which is WHY Patrick was upset. So was I. 2. Robin DOES have a choice. This idea that she has no choice is BS. If I were Patrick, her husband, the guy who cried and became a drug addict over the loss of his wife, was suddenly playing second fiddle to the previous boyfriend, I'd be pissed. Wouldn't Robin be too? Patrick HAS been supportive of Robin's decision to leave. He did't like it, but he accepted it. What Patrick is having a problem with since that time is a) Robin didn't feel the need to come home after his daughter was in a car crash (or at least demand to Victor that she be allowed to see Emma); and b) that she felt no compunction to reach out to Patrick after Gabriel died. Tack on that she's been only ONE HOUR away this WHOLE time, and my head would have exploded too. Which leads me to my next point. 3. How is Patrick a bad guy for fathering Gabriel when he thought his wife was DEAD!!! He didn't cheat on her! Heck, Mac, Maxie, and Anna were fine with Patrick marrying Sabrina. So how is Patrick a bad guy for being upset that his wife was not there to help him get through the pain of losing Gabriel? Would it have been better if Patrick didn't need Robin and just needed to lean on Sabrina? He didn't. He needed Robin, which is why when Sam stepped in to fill the gap, Patrick was grateful. 4. Robin also left Patrick with ALL the questions that Emma and Anna have about Robin's sudden and mysterious need to go off and help "other people" when she just got home. Patrick has covered for her. Heck, he's lying to Sam for her. Patrick, imo, has done absolutely nothing wrong. Robin is off trying to save Jason (which is noble), but she's also going to wake up a pair of psychopaths. How is that a good thing? Patrick has been left at home to keep Robin's lie from her family and to raise Emma on his own. During that time, he and his daughter were in a car crash, he lost his son, and now he lost his job. I don't think Patrick even bothered to tell her that last part because she didn't seem to care yesterday about anything except "Why are you here?" and "You have to leave." WTF?? She hasn't seen the guy in a number of months, and KNOWS that he's been through a trauma, and THAT'S her response? I would love to know what the reaction would be if it were the reverse. What if Patrick was off saving his first love and Robin was left home with her daughter and a tragedy struck, and the first time Robin sees Patrick his response is "What are you doing here? Go home." I do blame RC overall for this mess because he's not even trying to write Robin's reactions in a plausible way, but that certainly doesn't mean that Patrick is the villain in contrast. He isn't. His reactions were my reactions, which was basically, WTF?

That's fine, but that's your opinion, not the audience's. The way you made your statement implied that the audience (the rest of the viewers) shared your opinion. We don't. Some do, of course, and probably in this forum, but not in others. That's the point I'm trying to make. It's no big deal. I know people who love the characters, some who love SOME of the characters, and others who hate everything, which is the same for how people feel about other shows. I agree with you that Lexi, the alien baby hybrid that grows at a ridiculous rate, was a stupid writing choice, but it's done. I don't think the show has taken a nosedive because of it. I love the fact that the 2nd Mass is on the move again and actually fighting the enemy and not having council sessions in Charleston. I also think there has been better focus on all the characters this year. We're seeing a different side to Ben, Pope, even Hall. But that's not what happened. Tom made no guarantees, and he said as much. He promised that if she came out of the cocoon dangerous, he would deal with her, but didn't she prevent everyone from trying to stop her, if I remember correctly? Even Pope couldn't kill her. I watch Falling Skies through a different lens. I don't watch it as a pure science fiction show, but rather what would I do in those situations and how would I react in those situations. Yeah, it's easy to say "Kill the alien hybrid baby," but it's completely different when that hybrid is your child (much like Ben, who turned out fine), and then you have your "wife" and your young son asking you to continue to believe in her. So you have one group screaming for her blood and the other pleading for mercy. As a human being, those are not easy choices. I had no problem with Tom's actions. Weaver's would have been exactly the same had it been Jeannie in that cocoon. LOL, well at least your honest about it. I'm not hate-watching at all. If I don't like a show, I just don't watch it. Why waste my time? I actually don't have a problem with Anne's actions. I did in the beginning of the season because she was way too commando for me. But Anne's tunnel vision regarding Lexi is the fact that Lexi is her last existing blood relative on the entire planet. Tom still has family; Anne doesn't. If Tom were to lose Lexi, he'd still have three sons. Anne only has Lexi, and you couple that with the fact that Anne watched her young son die, and that's going to add another layer of trauma for her. Is she being smart about Lexi? Logical? No, but there are plenty of people who don't react logically towards their children and are just afraid to lose them. I got the impression from Sunday's episode that Anne is still very much on the "We have to save Lexi" bandwagon (along with Ben) while Tom is starting to waver. Hal isn't on that bandwagon at all, and I think he would kill Lexi if the had the chance. He doesn't really look at her like a sister the way Ben does. BSG had it's own very big flaws over time, but I am happy with the direction that Eick has taken the show. I think it's much richer and more like Falling Skies seasons 1 and 2 this year. I actually enjoyed the fact that he broke up the 2nd mass and put them in different places this season because it allowed those characters to grow separate from the other characters. So for instance, usually Tom is the commanding voice for his son's actions, but this season, Hal, Ben, and Matt had to think for themselves, and make their own choices. I liked that. I notice now that Tom doesn't even try to reign in Hal or Ben. Only Matt he still regards as a kid and protects him as such, which is why he went after Matt. Yet, surprisingly, he didn't go after Ben when he took off after Lexi. I also like seeing Pope have someone else to play off of in Sarah, rather than just railing against everyone. Lastly, I like the dynamic right now between Ben and Maggie. I'm not saying I need to see a love story or anything, but I just like how things have changed up a bit and we get to see things from a new perspective. I agree. Lexi is completely manipulated by Geminus, and he's been able to manipulate her from the very beginning. I view Lexi as someone who has been brainwashed, and that's why I feel that Ben is the right person to help deal with her since he is also part-alien. I think Lexi's story will ultimately involve helping the humans to defeat the Espheni. Yeah, it's predictable, but I'm hoping that Falling Skies ends on a message of hope and not doom and gloom. I want the survivors of the 2nd Mass to be in a better place at the end of the series finale.

I am completely on Team Patrick in today's episode. Robin had absolutely no emotional reaction to seeing Patrick today. None. She wasn't even really angry, more like irritated. Patrick, like the rest of us, thought Robin had been whisked away to the Greek island. Instead, she's only an hour away, and she has made no attempt at all to see him or contact him, and it doesn't look like she cares to do so. I had no problem with Patrick telling Robin that she wasn't there for him when his son died. It's not like he knew that Robin was still alive when he got involved with Sabrina or that he cheated on Robin. Robin wasn't there during the aftermath of Emma's accident either or during the endless barrage of Emma's questions or her pain about losing her mother AND a brother. All Robin could stammer out was "Why are you here? You have to leave. How did you find me?" You would think that if she hadn't seen her husband for months, she might . . . I don't know, HUG HIM! Be happy to see him. Robin was pretty heartless today, but I blame RC because he writes all couples crappy. I am so sick of NIna. She is on 24/7. So it's officially the Nina Show. It wouldn't be so bad if Nina actually had a tie to a GH character, but she doesn't. She is just some newbie character that's obsessed with Silas, who to me, is still a new character. So I don't really care if Nina is obsessed with Silas and then wants to get revenge on Kiki. THE most pointless character currently on GH, and that's saying a lot. I can only hope she kills Kiki. The Niz/Brik storyline is beyond ridiculous. RC has regurgitated the last storyline he just told for these three. I mean, literally, the last storyline. He just swapped out AJ for Ric, but it's the same story: Liz doesn't want Nikolas. She chooses another man, and he then moves on to Britt. Liz loses said man, and now she's alone. She sees Nikolas with Britt, and then suddenly, Liz wants Nikolas back. Oh, and Britt has a secret that Liz unmasks. Ugh. Meanwhilte, I'm STILL waiting for Michael to find out about Sonny and Carly's lie so that he can disown both of them and rip them to pieces verbally. Nope. Instead, it's Nina, all day, every day. I am not enjoying GH so much lately, and it's because of retread storylines and way too many newbie storylines that are just boring. OH! And the fact that RC is devoting tons of airtime to a tween quadrangle. Yep, that's a major storyline, folks.

He hasn't, and if you're not watching the episodes, that's probably why you're confused. In fact, Weaver called all the military shots last night, not Tom. Tom basically said to Dan that "this" (meaning a battle) was his wheelhouse, and Tom sat down, and Weaver decided the strategy. It was a good strategy and probably would have worked successfully to the end had he anticipated a blown gas line. So no, Weaver did not turn leadership over to Tom. Tom and Weaver work together; they always have. How do you know what the 'audience' thinks? I don't agree with you at all. I like every main character. Now I like some much more than others, but I don't hate any of them. The noble characters ARE noble but flawed like any human being, and contrary to what I read all the time here, Tom and Weaver work together as a team. They always have (except for season one when Weaver was in charge). Tom took over as temp leader when Weaver got sick, but they are equals. Also, no one told or insisted that the 2nd Mass has to listen to Tom (or Weaver). Pope could have left a LONG time ago. Anyhoo, last week's episode was better than Sunday's episode but only because it had more emotional heft for me. I did enjoy this past episode, but I would have preferred a much better ending for Tector who chose to do what he did. Tom never asked him to take his place. Tector made a choice, and I love that he would risk his life for his family. I feel that Tector would have made the exact same decision had it been Weaver, btw. I just feel that Tector should have had a more awesome death. I also feel bad that Lourdes had devolved into a less than likeable character. I didn't hate her, but she was becoming annoying. I wasn't expecting to lose her just yet. I also will miss Dr. Kadar, but he had served his purpose up to this point. I was watching some of the interviews at Comic-con site regarding Falling Skies, and Eick mentioned when asked about the science fiction post apocalyptic nature of Falling Skies, that he considered it a family drama more than a post apocalyptic show. This just affirms what I suspected in that the show is about a family, whether it's the Masons or the 2nd Mass, and their family drama just happens to take place during an apocalypse. Lastly, regarding Tector's shot of Scorch, he made the shot, but it looked like the shot grazed him in the neck - not a kill shot. Considering that Tector was using a very old gun, hitting his target at all was impressive. I will miss him the most of all the people lost on Sunday. Next week looks intense, and there's only five episodes left for the season. That went fast.