KerleyQ
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Was it me, or was there some hint of them laying groundwork between Bridget and Finn? I'd love to have Bridget back full time, but not as the off ramp they use to get to the "twu wuv" of Steam.
I was legitimately shocked to see Stephanie, and a soap hasn't legitimately shocked me in quite some time. So, good on them for that. And now they've got me questioning my certainty that Eric isn't dying. SF coming back makes me think it is JMc's exit, but at the same time, it would be really shitty if they didn't also manage to get the rest of his kids back in town for it, too. I'd think most of the actors involved would be willing to come back even just for one day out of respect for him, even if they weren't thrilled with the show when they left.
I agree that this has been dragging and ridiculous at times, but I'm going to miss it when we get Liam back on screen four out of five days a week, being a gigantic asshole.
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I didn't think she had chemistry with TK, but I put that on him, because she had chemistry with everyone on the canvas but him. The only people TK has had chemistry with are DD, JMW (you could have had an inappropriate chemistry faceoff between Ridge/Steffy and Taylor/Thomas), and the actress who played Caroline (until the show decided they were bored with that pairing). I could have been all in on Taylor with Bill, Deacon, or Brooke.
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I'm no Taylor fan, but I would have much rather had them keep her around for Deacon and send Sheila off to jail.
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12 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:
I was kinda picking up a tiny hint of possibly Poppy making a play for Eric. Especially with the hard sell RJ and Luna were giving him about all of Eric's virtues, blah, blah, blah.
I was hoping they'd have her run into Thorne in the hall or something, and actually keep Winsor around for a while. And wouldn't Li's head just explode if her sister started dating one of the Forresters?
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4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
And unless Bell has retconned it, THORNE is Eric’s oldest and should have had the POA. Unless Eric gave it to Ridge out of misplaced guilt which makes no sense.
I hate to "to be fair" to these writers at all, but Ridge is the only one of Eric's kids who has been living in town the past several years (other than the brief, best forgotten Ingo stretch a while back). I can see choosing the only one of his kids who he knows would be able to get there ASAP if an emergency arose. I think I'm just grateful that he didn't give it to Brooke and put us all through Ridge and Donna arguing with each other at her to make the decision they want.
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4 hours ago, RuntheTable said:
At the least, Ridge could have called Thorne and Bridget and told them what was going on. As a doctor herself, maybe Bridget would have some knowledge of what Finn was talking about. Or, maybe she could have explained it a different way.
In any event, they should have both been called to the hospital to say goodbye to their father. And Eric's other three children should have been called and told as well; don't cell phones work on safari?
But Ridge is too busy making it all about him.
I truly don't know if I could ever forgive my brother if one of our parents was about to be taken off of life support, and he didn't give me a chance to come to the hospital to say goodbye first. I was so appalled that he wasn't calling any of them about the possible treatment or about taking him off life support.
Also, it shows who's "important" on this show that Bridget stopped Thorne, RJ, and Zende from going to the hospital, but she didn't make any real effort to stop Steffy.
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1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:
That said, if Finn pulls a last minute hat trick to save Eric, then good luck with him ever competing with that. May as well slink off to Genoa City at that point. 🤣
Seriously. As cheesy as it would be for Finn to save him with this experimental treatment, I will take it just to watch Liam have to deal with Steffy gushing about how her husband, the hero, brought her beloved grandpa back from the brink of death.
Are the hair people just cutting a little bit more off of Hope's hair every day now?
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2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:
I can’t honestly say that I will ever miss the Moss man and his unappealing head of hair, but at least his bad acting made me genuinely laugh out loud. TK’s Ridge has leaned into the arrogant, cold, smug, self righteous, imperious prick thing wayyyyy too far. I so hope Eric survives and Ridge has to eat shit when he won’t relinquish the CEO chair.
Even when TK was a much better actor than he's been on B&B, this was one of his major weaknesses. I suspect he's been going for Ridge being stoic and holding it all together for his father and family, but whenever TK tries to play something like that, he just comes across as a cold asshole. It was the same way when he was on AMC. Any time Zach needed to be stoic or serious, he came across as a condescending emotionless asshole. It really made a couple of already shitty storylines way worse.
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So, Eric can tell the nuance of some facial expressions to understand right away that he didn't actually win the showdown, but he's spent the past two episodes with his entire family very obviously holding back tears (and in some cases, not holding them back) and making proclamations like "you'll always be with me," and he can't put it together that they all know he's dying? Does Soap Opera Cancer make one selectively stupid?
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25 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
Yay for small favors, I guess? I mean here we have Eric, who's boinked all the Logan women, save Katie. That's creepy enough.
At one point, it seemed like they might go there with him and Katie, too, maybe a few years or so ago, when she bought the house next door.
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So, does the show just want to pretend that the whole Massimo is really Ridge's father thing never happened? I mean, I think it's great that, to Eric, Ridge has never been even an ounce less his son than he was before the reveal, because that is how it should be when you've raised someone. But, when they write in things like a "good genes," line between Steffy and Eric, it makes me wonder if we're just supposed to forget it ever happened.
I was just waiting for Eric to full on pass out and everyone having to pretend that it was something so completely normal and not at all a reason for concern. Maybe RJ and Katie could fake fainting, too, and everyone could be like "woo, it must be too warm in here."
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2 hours ago, Snaporaz said:
Oh my gods, Hope, what the...? I don't usually comment on hair or clothes, but that hair? Those clothes? She looks like she's on her way to a Moms4Liberty book-burning.
When I first saw her today, I wondered when they SORASed Hope to a middle age divorcee from the 80's.
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13 hours ago, smartyshorts said:
Forrester Creations might be even more poorly run than Dunder Mifflin. A fashion house that can only put out ...what? A dozen frocks at a time?
This bugs me so much. We're told how wildly successful Hope and Thomas are as a duo behind HFTF. If that's the case, shouldn't HFTF be not only self-sustaining, but also making a profit? How could it possibly be in the company's best interest to back away from that line? If nothing else, you'd think the profit from that line could help fund Eric's "grand farewell" line.
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12 minutes ago, La di Diva said:
Hey Show, what if you bring Throne back to work with Ridge and Steffy? Eric could ask Throne at the gala party to return to FC. Seriously the Ridge/ Thorne clashes could spice up the tired FC SLs. But please, give Thorne an office -- no more basement.
I don't know. First, we'll have to ask Ridge if Thorne counts as family.
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Through all those scenes in Eric's office, all I could keep thinking was "RJ, you can end this whole charade right now. Just send a quick text to your father telling him to come to Eric's office, pretending he has a work question for him."
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How has Eric not noticed how sentimental Ridge is being with him. How convenient for Eric, though, that he only has his coughing fits around the few people he knows know about his condition.
And I totally get the whole not wanting it to be all anyone focuses on and not wanting pity, but I will say that I would be so hurt if one of my parents knew they were dying and they hid it from me and just left their death to be a surprise to me. And I'd be angry if they told my son and told him not to tell me, so I wasn't even able to be there to support my son while he dealt with it.
On a related note, I think it would be hilarious if Eric somehow just keeps hanging in there, outliving his doctor's expectations, and all he can think to do is to keep designing "one last collection" over and over again.
On 11/27/2023 at 7:09 PM, CharlizeCat said:I consider Thomas just a junior varsity version of Sheila. It's an injustice that Thomas was never held accountable for the accident that led to the death of Emma. Sheila and Thomas may be on their best behavior right now, but I am just counting the days until one of them snaps.
While I was watching the Deacon/Hope scenes from yesterday, with all of Hope's insistences that Thomas isn't like Sheila, all I could think was how much I hope this is all actually leading to it finally coming out that Thomas ran Emma off the road. Why have him go that far back then if they never intended for it to be addressed?
And, come on, how can we have Deacon basically parroting Hope with his "Sheila isn't that person anymore" shit, and have Hope not have one single moment of "wait, is that how I sound?" reflection? The fact that Deacon's arguments to her were essentially the same arguments Hope has been giving to Brooke and Liam, has to be intentional, right? At some point that has to hit home for Hope, right? It can't be accidental that the two of them are saying all the same lines, can it?
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1 hour ago, SweePea59 said:
I'm getting more of a RJ is the new Liam vibe with his ridiculous wet cat facial expressions.
We'll know he's the new Liam if some other woman, maybe a couple years older than Luna, shows up in town, and it turns out, she's Poppy's daughter with the doctor, who she gave up for adoption (or she has some other kind of connection to Luna and Poppy), and she is also instantly smitten with RJ.
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I can't believe the show isn't taking their chance to have Eric preside over his last Thanksgiving, while he pretends he isn't dying, and the people who know pretend they don't know. And every time he coughs, half the table reacts like they just heard a gunshot.
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Is Zende going to be the new creepy Thomas? Personally, I wasn't seeing chemistry there, I was just seeing creepy. I keep thinking there has to be a decent age difference going on here if she's an intern, and he's been back a few years after already being married and divorced. So, add the age difference to him preying on her to get revenge on his cousin, and, well, ick. This entire storyline with Zende sucks. I hate that this is the reason they've decided to remember he exists.
And Ridge is just such an asshole. "Welp, my kids all know, so it's time to lock it down and start respecting dad's desire to keep it private again." Fuck right off with that.
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On one hand, Zende was wrong that Ridge had anything to do with RJ being Eric's sidekick. On the other hand, though, Ridge ended up proving Zende right when it comes to the idea that he thinks his kids are the more important grandchildren, when he nixed the idea of telling Zende about Eric. All of Ridge's kids know, including his stepdaughter. But telling one more person, who is also Eric's grandchild, would somehow be the straw that broke the camel's back in not adhering to Eric's wishes? Fuck that, Ridge.
Maybe I just don't understand how a fashion house works and all, but I'm doubting FC is the big important player in the industry we're supposed to believe it is when they can only sustain one line at a time. I thought HFTF was this hugely successful line, thanks to the unbeatable team of Hope and Thomas. But now it's just back burnered because they can't do both it and Eric's line, despite having more than enough designers in the company to handle both (and then some, since it seems like two is the absolute max they have working with any one line)? Also, if I understand things correctly, since Eric "won" the showdown, they're only producing his line, and not both his and Ridge's lines, right? So, even though the company is apparently in bad financial situation (despite all the raves about how insanely well the most recent HFTF line performed), they're not going to be producing the line that actually won the challenge (i.e. went over better with buyers)? How is this company still in business??
Please, show, do not make Bill Luna's father. We don't need that. It's perfectly fine to have a few characters on the canvas who aren't related to everyone else. She's related to Finn, so that already makes her Forrester adjacent. She doesn't need to be a Spencer, and Bill doesn't need one more kid he didn't get to raise. I mean, I think Bill as a girl dad would be kind of adorable and all, but Kelly is right there. (And I would full on cackle for fucking days if they retconned her away from Liam.)
Oh, and count me in on thinking RJ and Luna are kind of cute. No, they're not the best actors, but they're not terrible, and if they don't get better, the show can always sideline them away.
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2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:
Plus, I would bet cash money that Brad Bell has an intern replacing the names Steffy and Hope in years of scripts with Beth and Kelly. He’s original like that.
I'm surprised he hasn't gotten on top of creating a male Forrester baby who isn't biologically related to Beth or Kelly. Because we all know he's only interested in writing for the Forresters, Logans, and (sometimes) Spencers. And among those three families, the only shot of a boy who isn't genetically related to Beth and Kelly is a Forrester who isn't descended from Ridge, Rick, or Bridget. It's going to kill Brad to have to make the linchpin of his next generation eternal triangle someone from some other family. (Please don't be related to Sheila. Please don't be related to Sheila. Please don't be related to Sheila.) When they SORAS the girls, they're going to need Thorne to pop back in with some teenage son he never told anyone about.
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12 hours ago, Aymery said:
You'd think if he was dying they'd pull out all the stops and include Kristen, Felicia and Rick too. IIRC, the daughters and Tony did appear in that video tribute when Stephanie died. (Of course, no Ridge back then because they hadn't recast yet.)
I was not watching at that point, but damn, how badly must that bridge (no pun intended) have been burned, if RM wouldn't even make a cameo for Stephanie's death/SF's sendoff? Or if the show was so done with him that they didn't make the attempt, despite how shitty it makes the character look? Because, even though I wasn't watching then, I knew Ridge hadn't been there at all when his mother died, and it has been lingering in my mind while watching Ridge deal with Eric's impending death. Like I just can't fully buy how devastated Ridge is supposed to be about his father dying when he couldn't be assed to pop home to spend even an hour with his mother when she was dying. Maybe they could give us a scene where he confides in Brooke about how much regret he has about letting his own shit keep him away back then, and that going through this with his father now is almost like a double whammy, because he wasn't there then.
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Why don't Liam and Sheila just hook up, and they can wander around town peering into people's windows?
Thomas getting mad at Liam for stopping by when Beth isn't even there was basically game recognizing game. Thomas pulled that exact same shit all the time, using Douglas living there as his pretext.
When Thomas showed up outside the door and heard Hope saying she'd always love Liam, I was hoping we'd get a completely unexpected twist, and that Thomas would be affected by the combination of just hearing Brooke predict Hope would break his heart and now hearing Hope telling Liam she'd always love him, and he would just up and walk away without even making his presence known. I might have more trust in his "reformation" if he was able to truly walk away, without plotting anything, when he believed Hope would never be over Liam enough to love him the way he wants her to.
Also, I agree that Hope didn't mean that "love" the way he took it. She loves that he is devoted to her. But, now she's opened that door for him, and he thinks they're on the same page, which is only going to lead to psycho Thomas emerging at some point, when he realizes she doesn't feel the same way.
Given that Steffy and Thomas have turned Ridge and Brooke's relationship into this huge tortured history that traumatized their very existence, I think it's really kind of sweet how much Steffy seems to adore RJ. Hating him for simply existing as a result of that union would be on brand for how they write her when it comes to Brooke, so I like that the show didn't go that way.
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Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday, November 23:
Bold & Beautiful will air repeat episode in which Deacon and Sheila fantasize about their perfect Thanksgiving.
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B&B : In the Media!
in The Bold And The Beautiful
The show is awfully consistent at writing Taylor out in the worst possible ways. It's either fake deaths where she stays away from her children for years or she just randomly disappears one night in her nightgown.
What even was her last scene this time?