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5 hours ago, JenE4 said:
But I also don’t necessarily believe that one of the women “created a burner Facebook account” to bully Chloe. There are plenty of crazed fans out there, not to mention the 30 and under crowd would more likely bully over Instagram, Tik Tok, or X/Twitter. Leave the FB bullying to the Boomers and maybe Gen X.
Gen X here 🙂- There is a MAFS Facebook Group where someone with Emily's name has made comments defending herself..... So I assumed that Chloe was referring to Emily...
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On 4/19/2024 at 3:18 PM, Elizzikra said:
. As far as the one night stands, if your (fictional) spouse at first sight had a bunch of them but no serious relationship, is the concern that he would want to continue one night stands once he is in a relationship? Is it a fidelity concern? Would say two one night stands be more acceptable than 50? I am genuinely so curious about this now - not for you, specifically necessarily but what the questions are that people might have generally.
I think fidelity would be fair concern, but not the only one. Emily's lack of relationship experience played out pretty clearly on TV. By her own admission she's been ghosted a lot. She never actually had to break up with someone. The lessons learned in a break up are also important in developing stronger relationship experience. This was her first breakup. And she acted like some people do during their first breakup (refusing to accept what the other person has said, being overly obsessed and making the other person a villian, lashing out emotionally. The difference is most people are doing this in their mid teens, not 30.
After Emily's accident she confused Brennan's general concern for her well being for romantic interest. Even though he was clear he just wanted to be cordial with her. Made me wonder if she has any male friends, as she doesn't seem to know how to be friendly with an Ex or with men in general. Also may be why she accused Brennan on wanting her friend. Because she just doesn't have a healthy concept of male/female platonic interactions.
Emily was kissed in a club by a stranger. She did not frame the kiss as being unwelcome, and I didn't get the impression she felt it was an assault. A person with more relationship experience would likely have set some boundaries where a man would have not felt comfortable to kiss her. (Assuming the man wasn't a complete jerk, but based on the stories told by Emily and Becca that did not seem to be the case). .
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6 hours ago, Elizzikra said:
My question is, why does Emily’s sexual past matter so much to Brennan? She liked one night stands as a single woman. She is married now (or she was). Presumably she was going to stop with the one night stands as a married woman, unless Brennan was concerned that she would be unfaithful to him.
The issue may have been that she ONLY has had one night stands and no serious relationships. Which may be fine in your early 20s. But by 30, that's a serious red flag when considering a long term relationship. Man or woman.
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I seems like toward the end, Lauren was starting to see the toxicity she had involved herself in with the pink posse. She broke ranks to tell Claire and Emily to quit interrupting and let Brennan/Cameron answer the question about the double date. And based on the previews for the where are they now episode, it seems she's completely out the circle.
Other interesting tidbit was when Brennan said backstage that he regretted encouraging Emily to be friends with Claire, and that Emily initially didn't like Claire at all.
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Loved the experts holding the women accountable. The looks they had when Becca said they didn’t know how to come to the experts with their issues (after agreeing the experts told them to come to them with any issues) were priceless
The men at least had the good sense to take some accountability and apologized to the experts for lying to them. Dr. Pia seemed to really appreciate Brendan’s apology, and she was definitely not a Brennan fan during the show. The juxtaposition between those 2 segments was interesting.
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I appreciated the ladies pushing back on Alyssa on what specifically Biden could do to lower grocery prices. Disappointed that she had no answer. Sunny tried to throw her a bone with an option, but she kept sputtering non specifics
She also needs to find a new grocery store if she's paying $5 for a red onion.
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I've not always been a fan of Kevin Frazier at these reunions. But he's doing a pretty good job moderating this mess. I like that he's pretty much blaming the whole group for the optics scheme, and not falling for the woe is me, the evil boys all made us do it narrative the pink posse is trying to spin.
I think Lauren is the one woman on the panel who has the best argument about being gas lit and treated poorly by her husband. But she's overshadowed by the rest of the pink posse.
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6 hours ago, Snapdragon said:
I'm sure the author would have gotten criticized for it, but when Sunny brought up Bernice King, I wished he had said, "So what?" Bernice was five when her father was murdered. It's not as if she was his contemporary. If Sunny disagrees with his interpretation of what MLK said, then she should state her opinion, not drag someone else into it.
Honestly, the only thing the guy really said was that ideally, people should be judged on their character, not skin color and that it's better to concentrate on helping people based on their socio economic status, rather than race. Then Sunny went off on her tangent so I have no idea if he has any actual controversial opinions, since we barely got to hear him speak.
Bernice King was raised by her mother and family who had more insight than anyone else to her father's beliefs and writings. So yes, her perspective is relevant.
I do believe the guy's writings are controversial as he seems to dismiss the ongoing implications of racism in this country. Racism does have socio-economic effects.... but there also environmental, physical and mental health, etc effects that focusing on just socio-economic issues would not address.
The guy might have some great ideas in his book. But just like so many cherry pick MLK's, I have a dream speech without context, the right may be cherry picking this guy's writing to promote the narrative that Black people are not owed anything. I think that's where Whoopi and Sunny were trying to go with him.
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On 3/25/2024 at 9:45 PM, Lamb18 said:
I've also noticed that Daisy's vocal fry has nearly disappeared. I wonder if she worked with a vocal coach.
I noticed that too. I thought maybe she was adjusting to her cochlear implant while the show filmed, and now she's more comfortable with the sound of her voice.
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2 hours ago, KittyQ said:
Well - Colman Hughes interview - you'd think that <fill in the blank with whatever person Sunny really dislikes> was sitting in that seat. She kept going on tangents to the point where she was interpreting what other authors meant in their books in order to contradict the author's points. Clearly, Sunny disagrees with his POV, but that doesn't mean no one else gets to hear them and decide for themselves. I also thought that the panel's (was it Whoopi or someone else?) suggestion that his age disqualifies his ideas was silly as they often generously praise other young people's ideas. The difference is that they tend to agree with those other people. The age of the author shouldn't really matter. Agree or disagree, he's as entitled to his opinion as anyone else.
What I think Whoopi meant is a saying my elders have often said to me, "Keep on living...". Meaning his perspective may change as he continues live and grow. Colman Hughes seemed to oversimply a very complicated issue. That is not uncommon with younger people.
Sunny tried to interview him as if she was the only interviewer there. That just wasn't going to work in this format. But I'm not mad at her line of questioning.
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1 hour ago, roughing it said:
Perhaps Oprah and Ana have type 2 Diabetes?
Ana has said that she has type 2 diabetes. I do wonder if the anger/frustration against the wealthy who use this drug for weight loss is misplaced. In reality what the covid pandemic has show is that drug manufacturers can make drugs quickly and in mass quantities. The companies that make these drugs could increase their production if they so chose. But they don't, because they make more money from the rich paying full price for a scarce resource than from selling to insurance companies.
I blame them. I'm overweight but not diabetic. And if insurance covered it I'd take the drugs too. Diet and exercise are only part of the battle. Genetics plays in role in obesity as well.
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I’m not a Brennan fan, but I will give him credit for not bringing up Emily’s drunken make out session with the Australian guy. Very odd the ladies tried to make the double date story a thing, knowing Emily made out with someone not her .husband
This is the fifth drunken Emily story we have seen in a six week marriage.
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On 3/13/2024 at 8:49 AM, HerkyJerky said:
I totally agree about Whoopi. What does she even bring to the show? I love Friday’s the best because Joy is a good moderator and she is engaged. What do people on this forum think would happen if Whoopi decided to retire? Would the ratings fall off that much? Maybe her benefit to the show is they can get bookings that they wouldn’t otherwise get?
I like Whoopi. I think she's funny. She brings a certain cranky old lady vibe that I connect with 🙂. And to me she's an icon. However, I get why others view her differently than I. Is Whoopi the best moderator....probably not. But I don't think Joy is a great moderator either. She tends to cut off discussion too quickly to insert a joke. If Whoopi left, I would love to see them go back to a journalist in the moderator role.
I don't agree with any of the ladies 100% of the time, but for me this is the best panel chemistry they've had in many many years.
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12 hours ago, cinsays said:
All the talk about Brennan and Austin being different off camera. Yeah, but I imagine their wives are too.
Agreed. I think most of the women come across as “performing” for the camera as well. I don’t think any of them have taken much responsibility for their role in their relationship issues either. Becca keeps saying Austin is concerned about how he will be portrayed on tv. but he’s not directly saying that. He’s saying he disagrees with her perception of his character. Even in the hidden camera apartment footage, Becca was the one who said Austin is only concerned about the cameras.
The men have not spent much time speaking negatively about their wives with each other or with their friends. But all the ladies have criticized their husbands with anyone who would listen.
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5 hours ago, Haleth said:
Wow. McGraw was certainly asserting talking points without offering anything to back up his words. And we’re supposed to believe his new news network doesn’t have an agenda?
I thought it was interesting he said his network would deal in facts and let the viewer come up with their own conclusions. Then he proceed insist his conclusion on schools, kids and covid was fact.
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5 hours ago, Haleth said:
Today Alyssa was making a lot of good points about perception and voter apathy and no one was listening to her. It was one of those days Whoopi and Sunny were being know it alls rather than admit there’s a problem.
Whoopi in particular has acknowledged the problem multiple times. But she's basically of the opinion that it's too late. There is basically no other path rather than Biden vs Trump so discussing the age thing is a waste of time..
Sunny has acknowledged the problem as well and went so far as to suggest that Biden could step down after he secured the nomination and be replaced by Gavin Newsome.
Both are basically tired of Alyssa putting the onus on the Dem's to save democracy everyday. She has good points, but I'd also like her to put that same level of energy towards her own party every day. Implore the Republicans to nominate someone else and save democracy sometimes.....
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37 minutes ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:
True, but Alyssa has over and over again warned of his danger to democracy AND she has testified against him to the DOJ.
True. But she did come across a bit "hit dog" during the discussion.
The way Alyssa spoke today, made me wonder if she is also worried that he would personally go after her if he was re-elected.
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11 minutes ago, Snapdragon said:
Eh, I think Alyssa has a point. A lot of people just voted for Biden because they didn't want to vote for Trump, not because they thought Biden was so great, so I do think her "a potato could have beat Trump" analogy is correct.
I'm not so sure. The reason why Biden won the nomination, was because it was perceived that he was the only one who could be Trump. People were concerned about his age, and tendency for verbal gaffs even then. There were 10+ running on the democratic side most of them perfectly qualified for the job. I'm not confident that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would have beaten Trump, which makes Biden more than a potato 🙂
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32 minutes ago, Snapdragon said:
I really, really need them to hire a research/fact check intern or something because the Grammy discussion was such a mess.
First you have Sarah going on about how she felt that the Black Artist award the Grammys had in the 80s was ridiculous and look how far we've come in that Jay-Z won a Global Impact Award last night...only she seemed completely unaware that the Dr. Dre Global Impact Award is a black artist award, it just has a fancier title (and I'm assuming is kind of a lifetime achievement sort of thing) and no one corrected her one this.
Sarah was correct. The Dr. Dre Global Impact Award is NOT a Black artist award. It pays tribute to any artist who has used their platform to give back, past just the musical medium.
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So glad Sunny pushed back on Alyssa’s talking point about fentanyl and the border. Her initial inference was that the migrants seeking asylum were bringing it in. When Sunny pushed back as that being false, she then tried to back track her statement
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1 hour ago, KittyQ said:
Sunny needs to brush up on syllogisms. While talking about Nikki Haley, she made a comment about racists and white people that implied a conclusion that doesn't follow. While some racists are white people, and some white people are racist, not all white people are racists, and while some Americans are racist, and some racists are Americans, not all Americans are racist, so concluding that the country is (and has always been) racist is faulty.
I think Sunny was on point. The country of America is not a group of people. People (native, European, African, etc) lived here before 1776 when America was created. The country of America is an entity that was created around the constitution and laws. As Sunny and Whoopi previously discussed on this show this week, racism is literally in the original constitution and explicitly stated in multiple laws up and through 1960s. So it's not an unfair conclusion for Sunny to state that the country of America was racist from the start. And while some Americans are racists, the the American people as a whole are not.
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15 minutes ago, princelina said:
How are they similar?
Emily said that Becca tried to initiate intimacy by jumping on top of him. According to Emily, Austin batted her away and told her to get off. (According to him it was said as a joke).
Brennan said that Emily got drunk and tried to break down the shower curtain to get to him in the shower, she then jumped on top of him in bed and smothered him. The implication was she was trying to have sex. He told her to stop. He was not playing when he said no and was upset by the incident.
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Not a good sign, when there is as much discussion of the Afterparty than the actual episode.
But I'll go ahead and add to the afterparty discussion anyway 🙂 Emily said Brennan got angry after she said something he didn't like. Keisha asked her what did she say and that seemed to trigger her and she refused to answer. Sounds like she possibly said something pretty foul. But instead of saying whatever it was she turned on the tears and implied that Brennan was scary and possibly abusive (throwing things at walls).
She also did the exact thing she accused Brennan of by trying to pivot the conversation with Keisha and saying she wanted to talk about something more positive.
Also interesting that what she accused Austin of doing in rejecting Becca's advances is very similar to the incident Brennan described with Emily breaking a shower curtain to get to him in the shower and then jumping on him in bed.
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3 hours ago, HerkyJerky said:
FASCINATING discussion today about evangelicals and their support for Trump.
Agreed. You could tell he was a preacher's kid. Very engaging, the ladies were all actively listening rather than waiting to ask their questions.
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S46 Ep. 10 "Run the Red Light"
in Survivor
But yet he didn't volunteer to sit out of either challenge to ensure they all got rice (which she could eat). Not faulting him for doing so. He wanted to protect his spot in the game and play for immunity. But he shouldn't criticize Q for protecting his spot in the game either.