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3 minutes ago, mtlchick said:
Who knows what the NY state tax law on winnings is, but I read a few articles about winners on the Price Is Right.
If it's like the lottery, the highest in the country.
My MVP was Tisha Campbell Martin. Although getting "poles" from Snoop's gestures was kind of awesome.
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16 hours ago, millennium said:
But if I follow, you were looking at it as "Batman reveals he was born female and became a man."
I kept "-man" in my description purposefully. And again, I don't think that many or most of the the elements you listed as the core of the Batman concept automatically require a cis man. I'm pretty sure a trans man can still be a man's man. Plenty of the trans guys that show up modeling or on Instagram have better bodies than I do.
And perhaps for the point of saying it, the current Batwoman was an obscure straight character that they resurrected as a lesbian. And she's been one of their best received characters of the last ten years.
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Jodi has fans? That's not a scary thought at all.
Please understand, I'm not defending Jodi, nor am I trying to minimize the magnitude of what she did, but it bothers me when women do evil things, but the part that people focus on isn't their evil deeds, but their sex lives. But like I said, dig a deep hole, throw her in it.
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Is he sleeping with the nurse? Because IMDb says the nurse has been in a number of episodes, but not the one that had all of the sex. I honestly didn't care enough to pay attention to his sex life.
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43 minutes ago, Ohwell said:
Was that the same nurse that Kenny was sleeping with who wanted to go to the game? I thought he was sleeping with an EMT.
The EMT died on the way back to her home planet. Which was apparently Georgetown Law because that made sense.
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10 minutes ago, millennium said:
Full disclosure: I'm no fan of gender fluidity. I like the gender binary. I just happened to be born on the wrong side of it.
I'm fine with the binary too, but if Batman is trans, doesn't that make him a him and not her?
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1 hour ago, millennium said:
You had to pick Batman, my favorite. Okay, yes, it would change him fundamentally. Batman is a man's man. By day he's Bruce Wayne, dashing playboy millionaire (or billionaire, today); by night he's the world's greatest detective, martial artist and stoic symbol of justice. He's hard, unbreakable, often inflexible, yet always human. He is an iconic male figure in pop culture. His strength, his physique, his overall masculinity are intrinsic to the character.
I know I'm probably very close, if not actually over the line, of sounding like I'm cisplaining here, but I don't know that I think many of those attributes are exclusively those of a cisgendered man. To me "grim avenger of the night, at the peak of human physical and mental achievement" is Batman, no matter which set of plumbing he was born with. I'm not saying that I demand DC give me a trans Batman, just that I think it doesn't automatically cease to be Batman.
But let's be realistic here. There is about as much chance of Justice League having Batman or Superman being trans as there is of Star Trek making Kirk or Spock gay.
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16 minutes ago, Bruinsfan said:
I completely agree, though I am torn. I'd say Takei, having played Sulu for 38 years, is the person with the deepest insight on the character, and has every right to make his opinion known whether or not that opinion thrills Simon Pegg and Zachary Quinto.
George has every right to share his opinion about it. But I can't quite say that grants his opinion more weight than Pegg (the storyteller), Cho (the current custodian), or Quinto (the other gay dude).
15 hours ago, millennium said:I'm transgender, but you know what? I don't ever want to go to a Justice League movie someday and find out that one of my beloved DC superheroes is coming out as transgender. I like those characters precisely for who they were when I formed my bond with them and I don't want to see them altered -- especially for something as crass as political correctness or to create advance buzz. The same goes for Star Trek or any other iconic show/characters of my past.
Let me ask you a question. If you did in fact show up to that Justice League movie, and Batman was trans, would that fundamentally alter the character? To me it doesn't, because there's nothing about Batman (at least for me) where being cis is a fundamental part of the character. Maybe for a character like Wonder Woman, whose gender was one of the driving forces behind her genesis, it would be. But even then, I wonder what it would be like to have an avatar of female power being represented by someone who had to struggle to be herself. But I'm not trans, so I think perhaps opinions about that are left to others who can speak more authoritatively.
As to Sulu, being gay doesn't change the fact that he's a bad-ass with a sword, that he can stare down Kahn, nor that he's the best pilot in Starfleet. It's additive, not a replacement for other traits. Bring in a new character, especially when you have a limited time to tell a story, and he or she becomes the gay character first. I'm not saying that's a bad thing if it's done well, just that it's a lot less meaningful. At least to me.
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14 minutes ago, benteen said:
Having watched Agents of Shield, the gay Inhuman character Joey isn't defined by his sexuality. It's just a part of his character but not something the show focuses on that much. Though he hasn't exactly made a lot of appearances either.
With the admission that I still haven't seen the last two or three episodes of the season, I can't tell you much about Joey except that he's gay. And also, as you said, barely there.
Now, contrast with Jerri Hogarth on Jessica Jones. I probably should have included her in the list of characters who were handled well.
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9 minutes ago, Kromm said:
It depends on if it's done organically for storytelling purposes. The David Gerrold story I mention upthread was purposefully written in the 80s to be about AIDS, for example, but wasn't pandering in the least. These days a comparable effort might be gay marriage or child rearing storylines.
If this were 30 years ago, I'd completely agree with that. But we're a decade and a half into the 21st century, and as a culture I would like to think we are past needing a character who was created only because they need to fill the spot for a gay guy. Sara on Legends of Tomorrow, Connor on How To Get Away With Murder, Jamal on Empire...none of them are there just to be gay. Compare that to the gay Inhuman on Agents of SHIELD, and see how clumsy just checking the box can be.
And while I will say that I did enjoy Phase II's adaptation of "Blood and Fire," and while I do agree that it would have been pretty groundbreaking for 1988, everything I've ever read about Gerrold's original script said that it was not that great. And the Bury Your Gays ending bugs.
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Damn it, NeNe. I watch this for a laugh, and then you went and gave me feels.
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14 hours ago, millennium said:
So create a new gay character. Send the Enterprise to a gay planet. Create a plot where the gay character's sexuality actually has some bearing and outcome on the storyline rather than just dabbing an existing character with a gay paintbrush. Write a story that has a moral about acceptance and how in the end we're all the same. THAT would be bolder and more socially relevant than Pegg's pandering.
How exactly is it bolder? And IMO, adding a new character just for the purposes of ticking a box is the worst kind of pandering.
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9 hours ago, ButterQueen said:
There's an audiobook???? Damn, I like to listen to those in the car. Who narrates it? I bought the hardback book. BOO!
On 6/11/2016 at 10:31 AM, walnutqueen said:The narrator's name is Patrick Lawlor. Full disclosure, I didn't really care for the job he did, especially because the tone and inflection he uses for Jodi sounds uncannily like David Sedaris.
To be truthful, I had some problem with the book, which is similar to my problem with some of Travis' family. Jodi Arias is a terrible person, and deserves to spend the rest of her life in a dark, dark cell. But there's this level of slut shaming that really bothers me. And anything that suggests that Travis was not exactly the paragon of Mormon values his family tries to claim is glossed over.
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I wouldn't say that George isn't entitled to his opinion, nor is he under any obligation to keep it to himself, I just think he's wrong.
The other problem is that the heterosexual bona fides of all of the other characters are pretty well established. The only indication we have of Sulu being interested in women is when he's under the influence of space madness ("The Naked Time"), evil ("Mirror, Mirror"), or Deltan pheromones (TMP). We see Kirk, Scotty, Bones, Chekov and even Spock with female love interests in TOS, and Uhura flirts with Spock like crazy and by TFF seems to almost be in a relationship with Scotty. It kind of has to be Sulu by default.
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The Prime version of Kira Nerys had extended romantic relationships with three different men over the course of the series; the Mirror version was shown to have sexual relations with both men and women. Prime Ezri Dax had relationship with two different men; Mirror Ezri seemed to be exclusively interested in women. That is somewhat more complicated since she is the gestalt of a genderless symbiont (who has been bonded to both men and women) and the young female body, however we only saw that version interested in opposite sex partners; additionally, the Mirror Ezri was not bonded to the symbiont, and from what we knew of the Prime Ezri prior to her bonding, she was heterosexual. Prime Leeta was married to one of the male recurring characters, Mirror Leeta was more interested in Ezri.
All of which is a long-winded way to say that your assertion that the Mirror version of Sulu's leering at Uhura proves the orientation of Prime Sulu is objectively false.
At the end of the day, I am more in agreement with Simon Pegg in that the true token character is the one introduced exclusively to be the gay one. I would honestly be okay with that, because for all of Star Trek's depictions of a diverse utopian society, sexual orientation and gender identity are things they've mostly avoided like the plague and their few attempts at doing so were either fair or downright offensive. To the part of me that remains the thirteen-year-old gay boy who fell in love with Star Trek twenty-five years ago, my only reaction to this is that it's about goddamn time.
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15 minutes ago, millennium said:
I heard Deep Space Nine did a Mirror universe episode. I didn't see it, because I dislike Deep Space Nine almost as much as some people hate Enterprise (but I like Enterprise, go figure). Enterprise did a Mirror Universe episode. Can't recall anyone switching teams there.
So, it doesn't count because you didn't personally see it?
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5 minutes ago, fivestone said:
Aww, I really liked Dr. Del Amico. I was kind of annoyed that she was never billed as a regular (I don't think), but whatever.
She was. Only in the fourth season, because she appeared only in maybe two episodes of the third.
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I remember reading an interview with the creators a long, long time ago (this was probably during the show's second or third season), where they kind of implied that Chandler was originally supposed to be gay, but that Matthew Perry wouldn't play him that way.
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10 hours ago, millennium said:
Certainly the sexual orientations of other characters did not change -- Kirk was a hound in both universes
Kira, Ezri, and Leeta's did.
Simon Pegg gave a very polite and respectful response about why he disagrees with George.
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This is not quite where I was expecting the conversation to go. I liked Del Amico too.
It's very hard for me to understand how the show ran for another 11 seasons after she left. I gave up around S9, but tuned back in for the final few. I thought the parts of the last season I saw did a lot of stuff right, because it reminded me a lot more of the classic era than the later seasons that I did watch.
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7 minutes ago, dargosmydaddy said:
I should just stop trying to have this make sense in my head.
3 hours ago, starri said:That's the show's motto.
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There are no words to describe how happy that makes me.
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I was too busy working the actual night shift (uuuuuugh) to watch this last night, and I'm probably as cranky as Topher right now.
I'm willing to accept the level of ridiculousness this show throws at me, because in spite of everything, I do enjoy it. But having to accept that the episode began around 6 and finished around 11 is just a bit too much. Jessica Tuck probably wouldn't even have fully been out of anesthesia in that length of time.
Can they find a way to get Syd to stay? We've determined that Jordan is an acceptable substitute for Krista in Drew's life, but Syd, particularly since she has the added advantage of also being military, is clearly the superior choice. I know the show likely can't afford Jennifer Beals, but I want it, and I'm going to pout. That said, I thought the relationship between Drew and Riley seems to have evolved awfully quickly. I can buy that Syd and Drew would bond quickly and strongly in a foxhole, but I have a harder time thinking Riley would have gotten so attached.
I will be happy to rub Topher's "burgeoning abs."
Jordan standing up to Topher may be the most I've ever liked her. I've moved from disliking the character to being ambivalent, which is honestly a lot of progress, given the limitations of the writing and Jill Flint's not being Meryl Streep. I think I approve.
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9 hours ago, juliet73 said:
Who was the karate kid?
Jennifer Beals' daughter.
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Star Trek Beyond (2016)
in Movies
Is it wrong that I really hope Sulu's husband is played by Kal Penn?