[S05.E02: The House Of Black And White]

I might be alone in this, but I felt kind of bad for Cersei. They start that scene by reminding us that she can't be Hand of the King because she's a woman, and that's bullshit, even if she would do horrible, horrible things as the Hand. I actually hated Uncle Kevan for disrespecting her, and I'm worried for her that this is a sign that her tenuous hold on power is slipping. She's not a nice person, but it sucks that the only way she's ever been able to be in charge of anything is through manipulating people, because she's can't officially hold any of these titles or positions.

 

Someone said upthread that Dany reminded them of Stanis because she was so determined to do the right thing -- when she said "The law is the law" and got up in front of everyone to do something unpopular, with no thought to what might happen to her as result, she actually reminded me of Ned Stark. I seriously doubt she's going to get killed, though, so maybe this is a redemption story where she follows her conscience and it turns out well, to make up for what happened to Ned.

 

Prediction that is based on nothing but the pace of these two episodes: Varys and Tyrion don't actually meet up with Dany before the end of the season. They meet up with Jorah at some point and complications arise which delay the three of them until the finale. Maybe the complication is just that they have a really long conversation while they're drinking.

[Masterchef (CA) - General Discussion]

Man, for a show that likes to hashtag everything, they sure miss some ripe opportunities. How do we not have #UnderTheCloche? Or even #WhatsWrongWithJennifer?

 

Instead we get #MakeAMousse for half an hour.

[S05.E01: The Wars To Come]

This is going to make me sound like an asshole, but mery killing someone while he's getting burned alive seems like small potatoes compared to other things this show has done in its season openers. Not that it wasn't horrible to watch, but compared to other things that have been horrible to watch, this seemed pretty mild.

[Masterchef (CA) - General Discussion]

As for tonight: very sad for Kristen, and I'm not sure letting Jon slide was OK. Oh, but there was maybe a tiny bit of licorice in the puree! Hey, I like him, but that was bull.

 

Yeah, from the way he said it, I feel like they stopped the cameras and had a longer conversation about this where they tried to find a way to keep him and coached him to emphasize that licorice was in the puree. I'm sure it was actually there -- I'm just saying the conversation we saw on the show read to me as the tail end of a longer concersation about it, where the producers were trying to figure out what to do. It felt like the show was looking for an excuse to let him stay.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, I get that you have to have a cut-off point so that people respect the time limit. On the other hand, it's always seemed dumb to me that, when somebody cooks something perfectly, they get kicked off because they didn't have 10 seconds to move something from one plate to another. So, it would have seemed tragic and dumb if they'd sent him home, but it also seems kind of unfair that they let him stay. This is more about the show running into the drawbacks of its own rules than about whether there was licorice on the plate.

[Masterchef (CA) - General Discussion]

My kingdom for good vegetarian poutine.

 

I just caught up on this season, but I was sad to see Kwasi go. It seemed like he lost fair and square, but he also seemed like a nice guy, and he was my second favourite after Christopher.

 

Is it just me or does it seem like blue-haired judge is trying to be nicer to people this season? I like it, personally.

[S02.E16: Blood Must Have Blood - Part 2]

What everybody else said!

 

I was surprised, and pleased, and then surprised that I was pleased, that the story went so dark in the end, with no way to save Maya, and all of the nice Mount Weather people getting killed. And I also noticed the Buffy and Battlestar Galactica similarities.

 

I get that part of the point is that the Mount Weatherites have to dehumanize the Sky People in order to justify holding them prisoner and stealing their blood and bone marrow, and therefore they wouldn't care about hurting them, but I've never really understood why they had to do everything in such a painful, horrifying way. Showing us characters we like being horribly torutured to death for no good reason was an effective way to get us to go along with Clarke's decision to kill everyone in Mount Weather, but part of me can't help thinking that this could have all been avoided if what's his face the son wasn't just randomly evil.

[S02.E15: Blood Must Have Blood - Part 1]

Well, A for surprises, C- for making sense.

 

It makes zero sense to me that, in Grounder culture, it would be acceptable to make a trade like that instead of going into battle with your enemy. The show went out of the way, at the start of this episode, though, to tell us that this was the lamest plan ever -- basically they were just trying to distract the Mountain Men long enough to smuggle their people out another way; the objective wasn't to take control of the mountain (which it probably should have been). So, when you look at it that way, then I guess, tactically, trading juicy sky person bone marrow for the Grounder prisoners makes sense?

 

What I really wish is that they'd shown us the conversation where Lexa was convinced to do this -- but I also think there's no conversation that would have convinced me that she didn't want to kill some Mountain Men while she was there. I'm so confused.

 

Grounder-speak for 'Shut Up' is 'Shuf Up' -- that makes no fucking sense.

Jasper and Maya get captured, but the couple hiding them were executed for being traitors to the new administration.

I can't believe that the grounders are buying into Clarke's "We're only here to rescue, not wipe out the Mt. Weatherites" plan.  Mt. Weather has been stealing and torturing and killing Grounders for decades, I don't think they will just let it go.  Was there a meeting that Clarke wasn't invited to ?

As I've been listening to the Grounder language more, a lot of it sounds like mumbly English. But I did enjoy that "be quiet" sounds basically the same as "shut up." It's a whole different culture!

 

They want to keep Jasper alive because of his bone marrow, but I have no idea why they wouldn't just kill Maya. They knew she was that other dude's daughter, so it's not like they got her confused with the others. (I got legitimately emotional when her dad said that her mom would be proud of her, though.)

 

I had the same thought about the meeting -- I was sure that Lexa had already gone over a different plan with her army and they were all just pretending to listen to Clarke. Guess not.

 

I am going down with the Clexa ship though.  Lexa will see that Clarke is not going to give up no matter how slim the odds are, and after Lexa sees that her people have got to safety she will come back alone to try and redeem herself to Clarke. Then they will team-up to liberate the hell out of the 46 (including Bellamy and Octavia), take out the evil Mountain Men leadership and let the good Mountain Men live, then retire to a little cottage and have lots of Princess Commander babies and live happily ever after.  The End.  La-la-la-la.

 

See, this is maybe why I'm confused. I think the writers just didn't come up with a very sound tactical plan from the beginning? Because, I want to say, there's nothing to stop Lexa from storming the mountain now that she has her people back (either way you slice it, it's not like keeping your word seems to matter to her), except that we were just now made to believe that there was no possibility of storming the mountain and the whole point was to create a diversion at the front door.

 

But, if there was no legitimate chance of storming the mountain, why were the Mountain Men so worried? Also, what was all that talk earlier in the season about the Grounder army on the inside that could wreak havoc once they were set free? 

 

If there is a legitimate chance of storming the mountain, how could Lexa not take it? Either before or after making that deal? Even if the Mountain Men are too busy injecting themselves with Sky Person marrow to worry about bleeding any more of the grounders, aren't they still really dangerous and isn't this still the best chance to take them out?

 

This doesn't make any sense.

 

ETA: Riful posted while I was typing -- so, okay, there was more to what was going on, but it didn't come through in the episode. :(

 

I did like the Indra and Octavia scenes. "You are one of us now." Pause. "You are dead to us now."

 

Indra is so dramatic. She's known Octavia for, like, a week, and she's already wiling to a) welcome Octavia into the clan as one of their own, and b) banish Octavia because she will never be one of them -- both within the same half hour. That whole arc would have had a lot more meaning if Octavia had been trying to join the Grounders for longer than a few days in show time.

[S05.E07: Tell Me You Fucking Need Me]

Lip's college troubles are one of my favourite parts of the show -- they ring very true to me, and it's one of the only times the show seems to take class differences seriously. I loved that little moment at the end of the episode where he goes and gets a mailbox because he can't send his mail to his house anymore -- it's such a small thing, but it speaks volumes about the distance that's growing between him and his family as he starts to aspire to more.

[S02.E14: Bodyguard of Lies]

Oh my gosh. I so wanted Clarke and Lexa to get together, but years of disappointment stopped me from thinking the show would really go there. I am afraid that Lexa's going to get killed in the coming battle, though. And that her spirit will choose either Clarke or Octavia to be the new leader of the grounders (or whatever happens when you die on this show).

 

Loved this episode though. It's the best they've had in a while.

 

Finally--I don't understand at all how Bellamy wasn't burned when the flames shot him out of that pipe. His hair should have been singed at least, right?

 

Yeah, the fire gently pushing Bellamy out of the pipe was the second funniest part of the episode. The funniest part was Octavia trying to scream like a grounder -- I guess that's what happens when you're raised under the floor. She's trying. (Actually, I blame the sound mixing more, because it singled her voice out from the group too much, but it was still hilarious).

 

Also great: when Jaha chased that crazy guy through the mine field and they showed a reaction shot of Murphy where he had a little, secret smile, as if to say, "I am not the most unbalanced person in this group."

[S04.E06: Close Up]

I'm okay with Mimi Rose as a character, but I'm not sure about Gillian Jacobs in the role. Something just feels off to me.

 

My big question, after watching this episode, is whether it's going to be possible for Girls to entertain the idea that Adam could be better off with someone who's not Hannah, or if we're being set up for a thing where he realizes Hannah was right for him all along because she's needy and he digs on neediness. I have no problem believing the show could decide that Hannah is better off without Adam -- I'm just not sure if it's willing to show him being happy and mature and growing as a person when/because he's with somebody else.

 

As others have said -- I am shocked at how few qualifications someone needs to teach. Where I live (Canada), you have to have a BEd to teach in public schools (even as a sub), but I just looked it up and, apparantly, at private schools you just need whatever. As someone else said upthread, I'm surprised that, if you're paying that much money for your kids to go to school, you wouldn't mind that the teachers just have random qualifications. Blows my mind.

 

Looking at Hannah's CV, though, I think it's kind of neat that a piece of paper that was on TV for two seconds actually seems to show the chronology of the jobs we saw her work. Makes me think about the props department and all the effort they put into little things like that.

[Looking - General Discussion]

Almost everything Patrick said and did all episode was uncomfortable and hard to watch, but I think it was supposed to be, so I'm okay with it, even if I had to look away while he was talking.

 

I really liked Augustin's wig, but thanks to the Recap for pointing out that these costumes are unrealistically good. There was part of me that wondered if I just always eff-up Halloween because I never look like that, and somehow everyone at this party had something amazing.

 

I saw someone make a point about this in the AV Club comments section that made sense to me.  Legolas is British. Link, the person Patrick thought he was, comes from Japanese anime.  Eddie's friend is Asian.  So while Patrick is a geek who would have probably made that connection if Eddie's friend had been white, he's also racist enough to truly not have it occur to him.

 

I think this explanation works, but I also read it as a thing where Patrick's bond with Kevin is partly over how they both like video games, and Patrick's feeling alienated all night because nobody else in his life understands his video game costume -- so, when he guesses the new love interest is dressed as a video game character and ends up being wrong, it's a signal that this new guy doesn't measure up to Kevin, and isn't the person he's looking for, and that makes having both his exes in the room with him even more upsetting for Patrick.

 

(In retrospect, I think it all would have worked even better if Patrick was the only one with a really good costume, that nobody understood, and everyone else was wearing a bunch of random crap that everybody liked).

[S02.E13: Resurrection]

I don't know, you guys. This is starting to look like a story line about how a kid who's basically good starts hanging out with a bad influence and gets into a fight with her mom while asserting her independence. I bet this ends with Clarke realizing that she has to be true to her own values and turn against Lexa by Just Saying No either to beer or to killing innocent Mt. Weatherites who tried to help her friends.

 

Glad Kane is still alive. Was scared he was going to die.

 

I'm confused about why, if all the other grounders thoguht Octavia was stupid, they just stood around taunting her about her dumb ideas instead of trying to come up with something themselves. Not that I don't enjoy making fun of Octavia, but am I really supposed to believe that, of all the people there, none of them had any relevant knowledge or experience or skill to come up with a plan, and they were just like, "We're gonna die no matter what. Let's taunt the sky person first"? Like, if Octavia hadn't been there, would the whole grounder army have been pinned down in that one spot forever?

[S02.E11: Coup de Grace]

My favourite part was the part where Kane more or less told Abby that he didn't care which of them held the title of Chancillor, as long as he still had all the power to make decisions about who they would torture. That was really big of him.

 

Because usually Grounder-blood doesn't cure people as fast as the blood of "that guy" did. And Maya knows first hand how SkyPeople-blood can heal you fast since she was treated with Jasper. I can understand that she assumed Bellamy was a SkyPeople like Jasper because of his blood healing properties.

 

That's what I got, too. It went by really fast, but I think they tried to show us the logic of how she reached that conclusion by having the Tragedy Guard notice that there was something strange about the treatment.

[S05.E04: A Night to Remem...Wait, What?]

Oh no, you guys. I didn't catch this until I started reading this thread, but now I totally think Fiona just got married so that the writers can set up a love triangle when Jimmy Steve shows up. I hate Jimmy Steve. Why couldn't he just be dead?

[S02.E10: Survival Of The Fittest]

I didn't really follow what happened with Lincoln, I think, because there were too many factors at play, and they didn't get a lot of screen time to set things up. Looking back on it, I think their original plan was to show up alone and then the fact that they showed up with a bigger group of grounders somehow screwed them up? But then also Lincoln let himself get drugged? Maybe because he saw how much fun the other guys were having? I don't know. It was really confusing.

 

I love that the A plot this episode is that Clarke and what'sherface go to the zoo and get attacked by an ape. I did wonder where Abby was.

 

And, I'm not thrilled that Jaha now has this Crazy Religious Quest narrative going on. I like that it ties into the story where he first landed on Earth, but it feels a lot like they just didn't know what to do with the character, so they made up this other story line that's going to split from the rest of the show.

 

Speaking Indra, totally knew that Octavia getting her ass kicked was going to make Indra take notice, and be willing to train her, because she respected the effort.  Of course, Kane wants her to be a spy, but Octavia doesn't seem down with that.  Have no idea what to expect.

 

I thought, for a second, that they were going to subvert that expectation by having it be totally pointless for Octavia to get her ass kicked by the grounders, but then Indra showed up all, "I really like how you didn't stop fighting even though you totally sucked at it."

 

I seem to have a problem with every incarnation of Octavia, and I appreciate that this one is a little less helpless and dumb than the previous ones, but I also have a hard time with the idea that she started dating Lincoln and that made her an honorary grounder because now she knows their "ways" and he taught her how to "fight." I like it better that she's training with Indra, because that seems like she's earning it more, but I still have a hard time buying it.

[S04.E03: Female Author]

re: the writer's workshop stuff. It doesn't ring true to me, either, having been to a few (not Iowa), but I think this may be one of those cases where they're trying to make the experience accessible to people who haven't been there, so that's why it's coming across as Writers Workshop 101 rather than a graduate program for actual writers. Kind of the same way movies and TV shows about other specialized professions or hobbies boil things down to the basic elements that everyone can understand -- doctors give you medicine; lawyers talk in courtrooms. In this case, writers go to workshops where they're pretentious and passive-agressive with each other -- in broad terms, at least in my experience, that's kind of right even if the details of how it happens seem wrong.

[S02.E09: Remember Me]

It was legitimately scary when Monty was in the cage at the end. I was scared.

 

Bummer that Raven ended up being tortured for something she didn't even do -- especially since they all made such a big deal out of not letting the grounders torture Finn for something he did do last episode. This time they all just kind of stood there like, "Well..."

 

I can't believe Kane has become my favorite adult after his behavior last season, but I really love how he's like "Well, clearly Clarke is running the show!" and seems totally fine with it.  I find it interesting that out of the three main adults, he seems to be more willing to accept that Clarke and the younger folks, are going to be the ones dealing with the Grounders, and stepping up leaders.  I can understand why Abbie is hesitant, due to her being Clarke's mom, but I think Kane is making the right call here.

 

I actually have a hard time suspending my disbelief about this one -- it seems to me like Kane of all people would be reluctant to let some random kids tell him what to do, even if they're right -- but he has become my favourite adult character, too. One of the things I liked most about the first season was the way the writers flipped things around with him -- first making us think he was just an asshole, and then showing us that he's a good person who's trying to do the right thing in a bad situation, just like everyone else.

 

But, every time he goes all, "Let's hang back and let your teenage daughter tell us what to do!" it pulls me out of the story. It's smart of the writers to have someone other than Abby be the one who believes in Clarke, and I get that it falls on Kane because there are no other adults with main roles, but I have a hard time with it.

 

Further to the same point, about how there are no other adults with main roles (besides Jaha, who's MIA most of the time), I sense a brewing romance between Kane and Abby. Just because there's no one else.

[S02.E08: Spacewalker]

I think I would have been more sad about the tragic slaying of Finn if a) Finn had not been totally annoying the whole entire time, b) I was in any way invested in his romance with Clarke, which also didn't seem that interesting to me, or c) what he did wasn't so senselessly violent and horrible. They took a character who no one liked, and had him randomly do something awful for no good reason, and then had him get killed for his crime, and I guess it was a little bit sad, but... yeah.

 

I actually think the was the least dark way to kill the character off, and I found it kind of disappointing after how hard core this series was the first season. What would have been darker -- I can't believe I'm arguing for this, but this is what The 100 has done to me -- what would have been darker is if they had handed him over to the Grounders. Or if the Grounders had actually tortured him to death. But Clarke mercy killing him Buffy-style after he turns himself in because it's the right thing to do? That's kind of lame.

 

Again, I might have cared more if he wasn't the worst character or if his relationship with Clarke actually meant something to me.

 

The retcon where he went to jail for Raven kind of made sense to me -- and I liked the twist at the end where it turned out that they didn't need to go on a space walk because she was allowed in the program after all -- but it was unnecessary and an akward way of trying to make us think he was a good guy just in time for him to get killed. If they wanted us to feel something, they should have done more work to make us understand why he needed to murder a bunch of innocent people (or they should have had him do something OTHER than murder a bunch of innocent people).

 

As an aside, I also didn't understand why Raven wouldn't put her helmet back on when the hatch started to decompress. No matter what the ultimate outcome was, wouldn't that be the first thing you would do if the room was losing air?

 

I like how Clarke just completely ignores what the adults decide and does what she wants regardless of the consequences for everyone else.  After what Kane and Abby just said, they just let Clarke stroll out the unguarded side gate that non of the Guardsman should have been watching. 

 

For me, the most awkward part of the show is still the mash-up of the kids' story and the adult story. In the first season, I thought it worked well to have them separate, but now that everyone's together, you get weird moments like this. I laughed at how Kane was just like, "No, no. Let's let your teenage daughter walk toward certain death. We'll see how it plays out."

[S02.E07: Long Into an Abyss]

Give them the one you call Finn, Clarke! Give them the one you call Finn.

 

When was Clarke listening to Rosetta Stone: Grounder Edition ?  How about never.  The only one with any grounder parlance would be Octavia when she was prepping for her speech to the grounder commander at the foot of Lincoln's statue several episodes ago.

 

It made Clarke seem weirdly observant, but I was okay with that part. The show made a big deal of showing us that Anya said those exact words in front of Clarke several times, always in a situation where she or someone else was about to die (and once in a situation where she killed the other person to put him out of his misery). So, I'm willing to buy it the way it was presented -- that Clarke didn't know what the words meant, but she knew they meant someone was about to die. So, symbolicially, this is showing us that, because Clarke was able to make an alliance with Anya, she learned something about their culture that ultimately helped her to save Lincholn, and create peace between their people.

 

As for her plan to save Lincholn... yes, it took electricity to do that, which is something the Grounders don't have, but, up until that point, it seemed like her solution was "literally stand there and do nothing except some chest compressions, and hope he's just okay when he wakes up." I'm not sure why she was so confident that that was going to work.

 

I did think it was a cool moment, though, when Abby suddenly had the idea to use the electric whip/cattle prod as a defibrillator instead of a weapon.

[The Fall - General Discussion]

One of the things I really like about this show so far is that it's demystifying the idea of the serial killer. Paul thinks he's a big criminal mastermind or whatever but, in reality, the police were able to identify him pretty quickly after they started investigating, and they only waited this long to arrest him because they were hoping he'd lead them back to the missing woman. There was something insanely satisfying about watching them swoop in and arrest everyone this episode, after how painful it's been to see him murder people.

 

As for next time, I'm actually really concerned. I'll be incredibly frustrated if Spector manages to escape this situation - it'll feel like such a jump the shark moment to string things out into a third season, and one that I won't be that interested in watching if it's simply Spector evading the police/Stella trying to hunt him down/more cat and mouse games. A good story should know when it should end.

 

Word. I was surprised that they stretched it out this long, to be honest -- I think stretching it out another season would be pushing it too far. Whatever happens in the finale should wrap up the story with Paul, whether or not they do another season.

 

Slightly surprised they actually arrested Spector, though I loved the way that it was the intervention of the UDA/UVF/WTF guy that actually brought about the arrest. Didn't quite understand why they released him and then arrested him unless it was some sort of Stella power play (hey, she's the genius psychiatrist, not me).

 

I think they wanted to keep the arrest low profile for some reason? People were already paying attention to the crime scene, neighbours were looking out their windows, etc. Also maybe it had to do with jurisdiction, and they didn't want to get the local police involved? I have no idea.

[S29.E13: Let's Make A Move]

I think I'll cry if Natalie doesn't win. She's a good player, and she seems like a nice person, so I would like her anyway, but she's in the game with people who are dull and bad at Survivor so she's really standing out.

 

I laughed when Missy said that she would never betray someone or go behind their backs. Jeremy was her One True Alliance at one point, wasn't he? Before she betrayed him and went behind his back? I do feel bad for her that she got hurt during the challenge. Whenever that happens, I think someone dropped the ball somewhere on designing it; she wasn't the only one who landed hard on that stupid teeter-totter thing.

 

The editing gave me hope that Jon would finally be voted out, and I was not disappointed. I don't mind all the foreshadowing when it's so delicious to watch his girlfriend tell him "I think Natalie was lying -- it doesn't make sense that she forgot who to vote for" while he's like, "Nah -- I'm not worried about it." They both annoy me a little, but Jaclyn is better at reading people for sure.

[S21.E15: Finale: The Last Girl Standing (1) / America's Next Top Model Is… (2)]

Ugh. They were all horrible walkers and so-so at taking photos. Keith's sexy face looks like an angry face, and I don't get why the judges think it's awesome.

 

The one bright spot for me was that Tyra didn't cut someone right before runway, the way she did to Cory last season. That was the worst thing I've ever seen her do to anyone, and, when it looked like she was going to do it again I thought, "I'm done with this show, for real, if she does that to somebody else." Glad it didn't happen.

[S02.E05: Human Trials]

In fairness to the show, I think they want us to be annoyed that the adults are so dismissive of the 100, and they're doing a good job of that, at least.

 

The way that everyone keeps coming up with stupid plans is starting to grow on me. I LOL'd when Kane got thrown in a pit.

[S29.E09: Gettin' To Crunch Time]

I think they should make some kind of Survivor rule that you can't go thru peoples personal possessions. I think that is the lowest thing you can do, (Reed).

 

Word. I'm shocked there isn't already a rule against that.

[S21.E13: The Girl Who Gets Caught In A Lie]

Oh, man. I'm bummed out that the show tried to send the message that it's okay to call someone a name they don't like as long as you don't think it should offend them. :( I also felt sad about it, because Chantelle was clearly trying to tell herself that he was doing it out of love, but he made a big point of explaining that the reason he did it was because he didn't like her and was trying to put himself in a better mood around her, so that he could overcome not liking her. And therefore, she couldn't ask him to stop doing it, because it was really her fault somehow. What a shitty thing to say to someone.

 

I'm used to Shei's look, but I've had weeks and weeks to adjust to it. I remember that, when they first gave her this makeover, my reaction was like "!!!" and that's probably how it still is for designers seeing her for the first time. I'm surprised that the show was willing to air the comments from the designers specifically saying that they didn't like the makeover, though. Good for them.

 

The go-sees kind of made me sad this time, beause I felt like they really hammered home the idea that Top Model is a fantasy and not a real modelling competition. The show picks people who have a bunch of different looks -- and different measurements and different heights -- and behaves as though they all have an equal chance of succeeding, but then you drop them in a semi-real situation, and the reaction from people in the industry is like, "Ugh, this is not what I was expecting." :(

 

The complete photo set (including eliminated contestants) for this week

 

I haven't been looking at these, so this is the first time I realized that Denzel has to keep wearing his fake beard after being eliminated. Ha ha ha.

 

You know Kelly was disappointed she couldn't be a raging bitch to someone for being late after the go sees. She probably had to steal candy from a baby after to make up for it.

 

I know! My favourite part of the whole episode was how obviously disappointed she was when she walked in and everyone made it back on time. I don't think she even told them good job on time-management. She was just like, "Oh... and everyone's here... moving on."

 

I still don't know what to think about Keith's actions towards her about the supposed lie. As I watched I was rather surprised by his response and yes I also considered how it would be if the genders were reversed but he seemed to really go after her in a particularly humiliating way. He could have privately confronted her and then asked her to straighten the story out with the others. He was making me feel really uncomfortable when he said "She likes me but I don't find her attractive" I mean come on she's 19 and we really don't know what happened between them and what the deal with those stories is. It seemed bizarrely ruthless of him.

 

I also felt uncomfortable about the way Keith reacted. I'm trying to imagine how I would react if some guy I was aquainted with told people we'd had sex when we hadn't, and I think I would be either angry or uncomfortable, depending on what our relationship was like, and what I thought the purpose of the comment was. I can't imagine a situation where I would be like, "Ha ha LOL @ you for saying you had sex with me. Stand here and tell everyone how you lied because you have a crush on me, so we can all laugh at you as a group!"

 

If he's telling the truth, and it's a lie (or an exaggeration), he seemed to understand that the lie was based on some combination of immaturity, wishful thinking, and having feelings for him, rather than maliciousness -- I feel like that would make me want to be more gentle about my approach, if it were me.