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    "The View": Week of 12/15/14

    in The View

    While I thought Whoopi's sweater was funny, I thought it was inappropriate for the show. Of course, Whoopi is often inappropriate, so...

    Now she is lecturing the Taliban. I'm sure they're all ears. And she thinks most Americans agreed with the hacking of Sony. Rosie P and RO both had their mouths open at that, as did I. Having said all that, the show was okay. Everybody seemed to be in a good mood.

    That was such an odd moment.  She said, we were with you (sputtering and finger wagging) but now that you are threatening people, well, you messed up, cause now we are not with you.

     

    I was stunned to hear that she thought that Americans, Canadians, anyone, was supporting hackers who revealed the personal information of something like 50,000 employees, SSN, etc.  This is not a small crime, this is I am guessing a life time sentence if you get caught.  And Whoopi was with them?  Seriously?  This is a major crime and has been for decades.  She is so ridiculous.

     

    And I am so so sick of her tirades, and lectures and bullshit yelling at America, the audience, the fellow panelists.  She is out of control and quite frankly has ruined her fucking EGOT cache (as if there ever was one).

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    "The View": Week of 12/15/14

    in The View

    And then Whoopi wanted to make it clear that Beverly was not raped.

    OK, fine.

    But the fact that Cosby would drug someone isn't of concern? Isn't that creepy in and of itself???

     

    Yes, Whoopi missed the point.  BJ telling her story about being drugged by Cosby validates the other women's stories.  It doesn't matter that she wasn't raped.  It shows the pattern of behaviour that is consistent with the other women's stories, that spans 5 decades of assault by Cosby.

     

    What exactly is Whoopi's view?  That BJ wasn't raped so the drugging doesn't mean anything or matter?  Or is it that she thinks BJ is lying and trying to get in the limelight for this?

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    B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

    in The Bold And The Beautiful

    I was never a Steffy fan, and not really a Hope fan either.  But the character of Hope is one of the worst I have ever seen on daytime soaps.  So much sturm und drang, and for what?  She acts like all of this has happened to her, and that she has nothing to do with her life choices.  Even now, if she really loves Liam, and is dumping Wyatt, isn't she once again being unfair to Liam who has to be in a holding pattern waiting for her to return?  What happens to Ivy.  

     

    Of course Quinn is an idiotic psycho bitch, and she has wreaked havoc, but Hope, like Ridge, is responsible for her own responses to the situations that Quinn created.  Hope did at least at one point acknowledge that she made some bad decisions, but blaming Wyatt for not protecting her, and then that bs about she only married Wyatt because of Quinn's shenanigans, so ridiculous.  When they bring her back with a new actress hopefully they improve this idiotic and offensive character.

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    "The View": Week of 12/08/14

    in The View

    Yeah, that was odd, that the white shirts make her feel clean, but she also likes when they are threadbare and with holes.  Olivia Munn actually kind of called her out on hat.

     

    Many of us have tendencies toward something, clothing wise, but I feel like Whoopi has to make it a big deal.  She annoys me.

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    Hosts Chemistry: Re La Ti O N S H I P

    in The View

    I think this should go here...even though it happened on today's ep, it is more about the relationship between WG and RO.  RO was saying how Claire Danes is on this other level of acting, that even as an actress when watching her, she RO realizes she could not do that level of acting (something like that).  And WG says something like, oh I can (implying that she could play anything anyone else plays), and RO quickly came back with, of course, you're an EGOT.  Now, RO was probably sincere but I think that their relationship is definitely strained.  It also seems like WG is countering RO even when she presumably agrees with her.

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    "The View": Week of 12/08/14

    in The View

    Today the guest host gave the lame argument for torture.... she said... if someone had my child I would do anything I had to to get them back.. or get information on where they are..... which is total bullshit.... if her child was taken... she would call the police. Also, If like she said... she would torture someone to find her child... that would be her choice.... but if she made the choice to step over the legal line... she would have to pay the price.

    That is what I hope this report is used for..... to hold the people who went too far..... in actions and orders be held accountable for stepping over the line...... There is no justification for torture.... none.... and it has to be said out loud.... there was no smoking gun... there was no attack that was stopped.... there was nothing gained from torture.... other than the satisfaction that those people were dehumanized.

    One other thing... there were over 120 people tortured by America (Not 3 like Nicholle wants us to believe).... and almost 25% of them were completely INNOCENT and had no intelligence to share.... that is pathetic

    Olivia Munn was referencing the Hugh Jackman film where he tortured a guy (really and truly tortured, I couldn't watch it) that he believed had his kid or knew something about it.  IIRC the torture didn't yield results and the way the child was found was not as a result of that.  I certainly didn't get the impression that the movie was pro-torture. But that discussion to her point didn't happen.  

     

    RO was really pushing back on NW today.  I get the impression that Whoopi doesn't like RO and seems to contradict her most times she speaks, like she did today when she was talking about the photos and whether the ends justify the means.

     

    Whoopi is really full of herself, and she has taken over this show to the extent that no one else can really get a word in.  She's bizarrely unappealing yet all the celebs seem to love her.

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    "The View": Week of 11/24/14

    in The View

    Well the day of the start of the Rosie vs Trump and then the Rosie vs Bitsy (where Joy kept begging them to go to commercial and the Geddie refused to) were two separate shows.  Today Rosie was referencing Trump and their long-standing feud (more on Trumps part at this point b/c he can't let things go), not Bitsy.  

     

    I wonder if Rosie O's veiled reference to Trump will stir things up again w/him?

    I bet it will.  I didn't see this ep, and would like to understand how this came up.  Thanks--if you can provide insight.

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    "The View": Week of 11/24/14

    in The View

    Thank you Laverne Cox for bringing up implicit bias.  Not much else to say, Pitbull makes me smile, loved Gaga and Bennett.  Yay! for Whitney (former SYTYCD dancetestant) getting her first mirror ball, glad Ribeiro won.

     

    Oh wait, lemme bust out my teeny weeny violin for Whoopi and her commute troubles because peaceful protesters shut down the Holland tunnel.  Try the Washington Bridge, or or or or.... just shaddup already.

    I forgot to mention, Whoopi's whole rant against the protesters was finally based on the premise that they were preventing the proletariat from getting to their low paying jobs--they would be responsible for the little people losing their jobs because of their protest!  She wagged her finger and ranted and SHAMED them for their lack of consideration!  When we all know she really was pissed sitting in her limo on her way to the View.

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    The GCEh?C: Canadian Episodes (Spoilers for Non-Canadians)

    in The Young And The Restless

    So at the end of today's episode when Victoria makes the big announcement that tomorrow morning she will know who the father of her baby it, I couldn't help but feel embarrassed for her.  It sounded like a clip from Maury.  What professional wealthy woman would want to keep going on and on about the fact that she slept with two men at the same time and doesn't know who her baby-daddy is.  Something she could have downplayed or resolved earlier, I think.

     

    In the previews Sage finds bear-food Nick, so Gabriel will be seeing him soon.  Wonder what he will do to him.

     

    The rest of the show was meh.  I liked Sharon with Noah and Mariah, but the other Thanksgiving scenarios were boring.

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    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    in General Hospital

    I like that the close caption calls one Luke and the other Fluke.  That's all I like about those scenes.  So Luke manages to pick a lock that somehow has a key chamber facing him.  Then Fluke comes in, threatens him etc  Fluke sits on the floor, lazily waving the gun around and Luke does nothing.  Fluke leaves and Luke just pounds on the wall and screams.  Um, how about pick the lock again and go the other way? 

     

    Hey, I have a secret and don't want one of the bad guys to know I have it. So I'll go to the house they are staying at, talk loudly about it with other people with the door open.  Better yet, I'll bring up stuff on a computer that faces the open door even though I know the guy is on his way back.  And when I am told he's nearby, I'll just sit at the computer, stare at the info on the screen with my back to the open door.  #smh

     

    Better yet, I've stowed a criminal under a horse stable and left him there for a year but there's a stable hand that is feeding and watering him periodically.  Guess changing his litter box too?  I think looking down in that box, it would be easy to tell if anyone had been in there for any length of time.

     

    meh meh meh

    What was hilarious is that equally pathetic faux Luke kind of lazily waved the gun around as exited the "rubber room" and there is no reason why Luke could not have charged him as went through the door and escaped the room.  Sure, they may have been guards on the other side, but seriously, he is just going to let him saunter out of the room like that?

    "The View": Week of 11/24/14

    in The View

    To me they just came off worse than Thurs. I'm glad Ro just sat there saying nothing. There's nothing for her to say, we know what she meant and she knows we know by being silent like she was. Whoppi came off like a bully who thinks she's better than us viewers. She's so ignorant, what kind of 'proof' are these rape victims to show? She pissed me off so bad today wagging her damn finger at us 'viewers' I flipped her off! I never want to hear that Keke woman's voice EVER again

    Whoopi's rant is like so many we have seen before.  She puts her "view" out there, and then doesn't like it when in her daily life, the plebes like us call her out on it.  You cannot have it both ways.  If you are going to have these views, and espouse them daily, you are going to get taken to task.  No matter what the topic.  If someone yelled at her about her views on rape-rape, that should not be a surprise.  What I find hilarious is that she is supposedly this counter-culture person who is then admonishing us, the viewers, or the audience.  She has been pretty clear that she only does what she does for the money, so her contempt for the viewers/audience is a bit hypocritical.   Would love for someone to call her out on that sometime.  

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    "The View": Week of 11/24/14

    in The View

    OK, i'm going back to a stance i've taken before - the original premise of this show - intelligent discussions by women of different backgrounds about topics that matter to women. WHAT HAPPENED?

    Whoopi is my age. She is being deceptive when she talks about this issue. She knows damn well that when she was a teen/young woman, sexual assault was not something that was viewed the way it is today. Any woman who was groped, or drugged, or threatened, was not taken seriously. the response was all about asking her why were you alone with a guy? why did you go to a party? why did you accept something to drink? why did you accept a ride home if you didn't want sex? why were you wearing clothes that made you look sexy? Any woman who reported being attacked would be accused of having consensual sex and then experiencing regret the next morning. Whoopi KNOWS this, she's pretending she doesn't.

    The original View panel would have DISCUSSED the accusations against Bill Cosby, and discussed how things have changed over the decades. They might have shared personal stories, but they certainly would have talked about how men were in control, and women were powerless. they would have discussed it in terms of how women have been empowered in recent years, and NOW, women can come forward and talk about their experiences of powerful men taking what they wanted.

    but they would have TALKED about it, listened to each other, and considered the issue intelligently, from a number of points of view. How BC was a product of that era, where it was accepted and expected to take advantage of young women by putting something in her drink. How a man's secretary, assistant, intern, was referred to as his "gal" or "girl", and he could have her if he wanted. the executive banging his sexy secretary was not a myth, but something women went along with in order to keep a job. How a woman could go to college, and then end up with a job as an assistant to a man who made twice her salary even though he lacked her credentials. How it was acceptable to pay men more than women for the same job, because men had to support families. How HELP WANTED ads in the paper had two sections - male and female. How women could get fired for getting pregnant, or for being married, even for gaining weight.

    How about how the country was still grappling with the issue that Black men were supposed to be equal to white men, but everyone knew women of any color were inferior? Women were not equal - not in the workplace, not in the home, certainly not in the entertainment industry.

    Bill Cosby was a powerful man in the entertainment industry who understood that society saw women as there for the taking, that a woman who wanted to succeed in the industry was going to have to go along with advances from men, whether she wanted to or not. And he understood that if a man takes it too far, and crossed a line, then having someone give the woman some cash would make the guilt go away.

    Society changed, gradually, over the years, and what we used to accept is now considered a crime of sexual assault. Bill Cosby didn't change, he kept up the same behavior for a long time. The thing is, I really think Bill Cosby himself probably does not think he "raped" anyone. By the standards of the time, he had sex and then was generous by sending cash and gifts to the women. Yeah, he gave them a little something to loosen them up and make them "relaxed", but so what? He didn't beat them up! That was the mentality at the time, and that is the discussion they should be having - about race, gender, and power and control. It's worth talking about.

    To be clear, I'm not excusing Cosby - I think he's a pig. But a bigger issue is how he was allowed to be a pig. And a rapist.

    Cannot agree more.  I think this is what the "news item" is really about.  It was a different era, and you have described it well.  My hubby when he heard this news--and he is 60--said this was probably what all male stars at that time did/got away with, plus producers, directors etc.  It's not even a guess, the autobios are out there and women have been reporting this behaviour for years.  The story/discussion should really be about how this was so prevalent, that women could not be heard.  Now they will be heard, and there is absolutely nothing in it for them but heartache.  Instead, we have a cast of women who mostly seem to want to divert from this real issue.

     

    It is similar to the issue of child abuse, which was hidden for many years, and spousal abuse.  These things were accepted when I was a child.  Now celebs are being called out for this.

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    GH In The News: The PC Press Club

    in General Hospital

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11/21/michelle-stafford-y-and-r-interview_n_6198848.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-tv

     

    Stafford interview.

     

    I did an eyebrow raise at "I've known some people who didn't want to let me shine in a scene". It makes me wonder, did they want the spotlight all to themselves or just didn't want her eating the scenery?

    Her comments in this interview are quite unflattering to Y and R.  1) there is so much drama behind the scenes there, and ego 2) the writers didn't give her anything challenging to do 3) Howarth is the best male actor she has ever worked with 4) Maura West wants her to do well in their scenes unlike another female actress she worked with who didn't want her to shine in a scene 5) she doesn't watch  Y and R and doesn't care about the show or Phyllis. 

     

    Looks like she is burning herself some bridges there.

    "The View": Week of 11/17/14

    in The View

    It's clear to me the Cosby discussion started backstage and just continued once they were on air. Rosie O was already extremely pissed even before the segment began. I get what Rosie P was saying with regards to social media - the corporations are listening to the people on social media who have already made up their minds about Cosby and are acting accordingly. There's nothing wrong in what she said, IMO. Yes I do feel Rosie O was cold to her regarding her comment. I don't think Rosie P was belittling the actual issue which is rape. Her comment went along with how Whoopi opened the discussion, in that new developments happened overnight which was several networks cancelling Cosby shows. 

    I totally get what Rosie O was saying but she should have articulated her viewpoint way, way better instead of creating tension that was unnecessary. 

    This.  There had to have been a disagreement backstage for this to have gone down this way.  RO believes Cosby is guilty and that really is what she should have said, and why, rather than challenging Rosie P on her viewpoint, and then calling Whoopi out for being angry.  I am sure Whoopi was angry and when Ro said that it made her even more angry, you could see that in her face even with the profile shot.

     

    I truly don't get why Ro cannot just state her opinion, instead of "baiting" the others about their opinions.  I feel this way and I actually agree with Rosie.  I thought the social media commentary by Rosie P was not all that relevant.  It's true that this turned in a shitstorm and Cosby is being impacted by it, but he also has declined to comment.  (And he is not suing these women for slander.)  He is in the public eye, it's going to happen and it happens to many many people, including people who are not celebrities.  So her comments about social media just seemed not that important.  And if the public is "big brother", what is actually wrong with that?

     

    I thought the tension was weird, instead of a discussion or conversation it seemed like they all were waiting for something to happen.  On Ask Ro, her answers often imply that she feels she is being held back.  I will say that I think Whoopi is the Queen on this show, and apparently she has a big following, so Ro is put in an awkward position when she butts heads with her.

     

    I think there is another angle to this story that they haven't discussed which is that powerful men, especially during the 60s/70s, could get away with this shit, and probably lots of famous ones did.  Rosie made a good point about the "image" of Cosby as having an impact on the discussion.  If it was someone less iconic or loved, would everyone be on tenterhooks?

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