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Not only that. The only reason they are building the restaurant is for Jay to be happy. The whole idea of building the restaurant came up when Sam learned that Jay had interviewed for a job in the city because he was unhappy not being around people he can see and unfulfilled professionally. The restaurant is Jay's, it's the only thing that is keeping him here, essentially. And now Sam is throwing it in his face that he only cares about his restaurant and it would be nice if he also recognized that there are other people here who have things that are important to them? Are you serious? And the notion that they have to give in to Isaac's demands is dumb. Again, the goal here is to build a successful restaurant that will allow Jay to be happy in these woods, which would allow Sam to keep her family and stay around the ghosts that she loves so much. So, really, there is no difference between not getting Isaac's money and getting it but having to waste it on a restaurant that is not going to be successful. They should be able to explain this Isaac, shouldn't they?

Ah yes, you are right. He must have been referring to Jordan, but it worked out well with the season switch and refers to Slovenia now.

Wow, so many teams that seem really unprepared and not likely to do well on the Race. Did the siblings say they were competitive swimmers and something else? Competitive? In the sense that they want to win, I’m guessing, not in the sense they are able to compete, right? Phil said something like “we went to a new country last season, and this season we are going to two new countries!” Seeing how “this” season happened before “last” season, did they assemble everybody on that beach again way afterwards, just to record that line?

Yes, of course. That way would be to forgo using pronouns and use names instead. And if having to forgo pronouns becomes something we have to do more and more often, up to almost always in the extreme case, then why have them at all? Language will become more primitive if that happens, and more cumbersome at the same time. With Mary and Brenda, the same sentence “she told her that her car needs gas” describes four scenarios that have to be distinguished, but with Mary and George and “they” we already have six scenarios because “their” can refer to Mary’s, George’s and also to the car that is actually theirs, the one they both use. No, it’s not that big a deal. People will adapt. If people discussed things like this four hundred years ago, they would probably go “it is outrageous that people are using ‘you’ instead of the proper ‘thee’, ‘thou’ and ‘ye’. What is the world coming to? How are we going to communicate? I blame the [whatever they would have for the internet back then]”. 🙂

I agree. But then there's the issue of using pronouns when nouns or Proper Nouns (names) are required for clarity of understanding. So changing “George and Mary were talking, and they told them they’s car needs gas” To: George and Mary were talking, and they told them their car needs gas” — is still unclear. Whose car? There was another line in my post where I quoted someone actually using “l’s” for “my”. That’s the only reason I went with “they’s” instead of “their” - it is preposterous but, unfortunately, not impossible.

I have no problem with that. But good luck trying to figure out whose car needs gas and who said that to whom.

Ha, I was just thinking that soon enough we will only have two pronouns, they and they’s (the second one is possessive). Then we will see a sentence “George and Mary were talking, and they told them they’s car needs gas” and pronouns will become obsolete. I almost drowned in that river of language when I once heard someone say “Brian and I’s relationship”.

Full disclosure - I did not seem to remember much from that episode, so I rewatched. Not really, Carol was not rude, she was simply firmly saying no to Sam, who was pushing ideas for her daughter’s wedding. Then Sam forged Pete’s notes in the “family heirloom” book, which made Carol upset and she became a bit less polite, understandably. And Sam already knew at that point about her cheating on Pete, it did not seem to be a problem then. (Fun episode, I did not remember anything about the Pony and Bangs’ investigation or Crash having a major speaking part.) In any case, being rude to someone because they were rude to you is stooping to their level. It’s not great. You know, I know Sasha and Nico are supposed to be that, but I don’t think I can specifically name anything stuck-up that they did. They kind of walked right into the weirdness - the seance, Sam talking to thin air like a crazy person, then the dead body and Jay with the shovel - and just reacted to it. The closest thing I can think of is when they said that Sam is losing her mind because she is stuck in the middle of nowhere in this creepy hotel, but they are not exactly wrong about the setting here. As far as Sam really being Hetty’s descendant, maybe only in that Sam didn’t feel that there is anything wrong with expressing her disrespect to someone. Other than that, Hetty felt that Sam was doing everything wrong. In her words, Sam’s “chances with Nico and Sasha were dead long before Carol was”. There was something about them being in music and stylists to the stars and an amazing bathroom remodel, and Sam and Jay felt that being around all that would advance their social status somehow. I don’t know. What social status? What are they going to do with it?

Or goes “Don’t worry, Molly, we are going to find your dog.” :) I mean, it’s not like she is spaced out all the time and about everything. She has provided factual information and good insight about this and that before, so she could totally be aware about how long she has been in the well. Or it could be a broken clock is right twice a day situation, too. I think my favorite scene in the episode was when Carol was trying to figure out which one is Nico and which one is Sasha. “This are our friends Nico and Sasha.” - “Nico and Sasha. (points) Sasha? Sasha?” - “Nico.” - “Nico. Sasha?” - “Sasha.” I wonder if it was adlibbed, it felt so natural. And I’ve got to say, Sam and Jay were extremely rude to Carol. It’s not her fault that they invited her by mistake. In fact, she is in their life at all only because Sam invited her to visit in the first place (and then invited her again, and then subscribed to her newsletter…). And now they stick her alone in the kitchen to guard the donut holes?

This is a real conundrum. Ghosts walk through walls and doors, so if they're 25 feet under ground can they walk through the earth? Not that that would get her anywhere. I like your theory that they don't move through things vertically. They can also walk up and down the stairs. So, logically, if they can walk through the earth, Flower should be able to find a stone to step up on, walk around, find another stone higher up and so on, until she gets out. It must be that either they can walk through soild material only up to a certain thickness, or that it's just Flower being Flower and not realizing some obvious things she can do. (Didn't see the above post, obviously.)

They can have Jay use that shovel and fill the well up little by little, this should bring Flower up to the surface. Are the seances in this show supposed to work every time they are conducted? I thought they were a might or might not work kind of thing. So not being able to summon Flower may not clue them all in to the fact that she is still around. And yes, what was up with Jay fake-greeting Flower? That was just weird.

I loved how Mary was not surprised at all that Taylor was not gay after all. I was wondering last week why Mary didn’t bat an eye at reading about Missy’s gay friend, but yeah, it makes total sense. She knew. Sheldon would never say “it brought what’s-his-name and I closer together.” He would have used “me”.

And if you bring along a sandwich, it would qualify as dinner with Prince :). I think we’ve cracked how he did it.

"A Paisley Park spokesperson said space rentals start at $25,000 and can climb to $75,000." That's one expensive dinner with an imaginary ghost 😀. Eric is an architecht, right? Bela would have had questions. https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/want-to-have-a-party-at-paisley-park-it-will-cost-you-between-25-000-and-75-000.5397509/

The line was “He took me to Minnesota for my birthday to have dinner with Prince.” This requires Eric either to know for a fact, in advance of the trip, that Prince is currently a ghost still haunting his place in Minnesota, or to just go there blindly without any reason to expect meeting Prince and somehow “succeed” at that. (Well, it worked for Sam’s mom, I suppose). Anyway, it just felt to me like Bela would have caught on to Eric’s lie in a snap, just like she did when he pretended to have walked through Flower. Btw, would he have to rent Prince’s mansion (that is now a museum) out to have dinner there or is there a food court?

It’s the 90s and it’s Texas. Frankly, I was shocked George was so open-minded about Missy supposedly having a gay friend. Well, Taylor was pretty busy when Missy told him :). I liked his reaction, it reminded me of Joey Tribbiani ('Dude, what are yoiu massaging an old man for?' - 'His daughter was hot!' - 'Gotcha.') And George's perspective was pretty much that a gay friend is better than a straight boyfriend. I am actually surprised that the very religious Mary did not seem to have a problem with it, she just chuckled at George's patting himself on the back for being open-minded.

Yeah, I don’t know about Bela and Eric’s relationship. It sounded like she needed him to see ghosts or be that French biker for her to be into it. Or he felt like she did, at least. He will have to work hard and come up with something else to keep it going. And how would he know before going to Minnesota that Prince would still be hanging out here as a ghost? Bela is smarter than buying this. I saw this painting once at the Reina Sofia Museum, a female artist painted herself wearing a red dress. Her father disowned her. There wasn’t even an ankle showing, just a red dress. But this was Francoist Spain, super conservative. A woman wearing anything other than a black dress was scandalous, apparently. Right? She easily has a good 60 years left, no need to panic or anything, but still, awkward. And I don’t really understand why Isaac keeps thinking about the 10K as “his money” - he can’t spend any of this without Sam, he has no control over it whatsoever.

She does do this all the time, doesn’t she? And I can’t remember, was she ever different? Ever since she accepted her ability to see ghosts, she just dove into their rich world and became all about them, at Jay’s expense. Yes, she did set up a DnD game with the ghosts for him and suggested/agreed to build a restaurant, but those things kind of feel like throwing Jay a bone so he doesn’t become too unhappy and interfere with whatever Sam has going on with the ghosts. She just doesn’t come across like she is there for Jay, really. Sure, Sam interacting with the ghosts is the show. But Alison on the British Ghosts did not come across this way, she was totally there for Mike (in the two seasons that I have seen, at least). It’s probably because there Alison and Mike were actually struggling and persevering together, whereas here it doesn’t really feel like Sam and Jay are struggling. One is a freelance writer, the other a gifted chef, and they are pretty much enjoying life, even though they mention once in a while that they have no money.

Sass inadvertently inventing hygiene? That just might beat “The Old Man and the Sea” in terms of value to the humankind. But he said that he has to gain the person’s trust and show up in their dreams repeatedly before being able to influence their dreams, and the person has to be susceptible. How would one even discover that he can show up in someone’s dream? Poor Isaac. Even when he was alive, they had to entertain themselves by things like staring at James Madison’s hunting print for an entire burn of a candle. Or thinking that they are inventing democracy (amongst Europeans). I laughed at Thor’s enthusiastic account of ripping a pig apart. “What a lot of people don't know is pig has weak spot in spine. And once you locate spot, well, you can just rip it in half. Just like goat!” Just like goat.

Sure, it's for our benefit. But it could be that, this being a special, short-term international program, they would teach its courses in English. They do that sometimes, both for the international students and also so that the native students could polish their English.

Easy. Sam is writing something about the vikings and gets a sketch artist to produce a portrait according to what she wants an illustration to look like.

I am having a little problem with Missy’s bringing up that people don’t thank her for what she is doing for them. It sounds like she does things for others not just because she feels these things have to be done for her family’s wellbeing and wants to do them, but also because wanting to be thanked or to be thought of well is a major motivation for her. It kind of devalues the great job she is doing taking care of everybody. That said, she is absolutely right making everybody else work too. It’s not her job to do everything. Where exactly did that girl get her degree in education? Not with another prominent, award-winning scientist, I’m guessing? I liked how Mary in the background was enjoying her tutoring technique. Dummkopf! I wonder if Linkletter even knew about the 26 dimensions. There is no East MIT!

Huh, I have not realized until now that Thor always wears that shield on his back. Like a turtle of sorts. I know I’ve seen him wear it before, but I could have sworn that I have seen his back without the shield too. But it can’t be right, ghosts can’t get separated from the objects in their possession. I think I’m good. Isaac’s “you wouldn’t believe what a cattle stampede can do to a human body” is enough details about Flat Maria for me. Sass was a total evil genius for a minute, suggesting to Sam in so many words how she might be able to use his power. And then he goes into Jay’s dream and just folds at the slightest challenge! “If you are not Sass, how do you know his full name?” Man, the solution is so simple - “Jay, this is all your dream! It’s all in your head, dude.” But I’m glad he is not an evil genius after all and can have real conversations with Jay now.

Dale 😉? Dale is drinking Missy’s coffee and making jokes that are going to be funny in two years. And George doesn’t know they have a linen closet and spare sheets. Which still leaves more than enough adults taking care of the kids, to be sure. Come to think of it, Mary’s coming home would actually worsen the situation since she comes with the mega baby that is Sheldon.

This made me wonder - if Flower is the first sucked off ghost they care about, why didn’t they care about the ones who have been sucked off before? They have been ghosts for a long time, they knew about being sucked off, they surely have seen this already. They all get along so well (well, the upstairs ghosts with each other, at least). I kinda liked them, they all had personalities (and lines!) all of a sudden. Crash too! He reminded me of Joe Pesci. I wonder if they are all going to be more prominent now or if this was just a one-off, just some extra cash for long-out-of-work actors. “Interacting with local fauna is how I got cholera” :). Is that really how you get cholera? I thought it was mostly through drinking water.