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6 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

LOL, I hear you.  I usually like them tall, light haired and blue eyed so Pit Bull is an exception for me.  But I have made exceptions before, so my type is not set in stone.

I just think that a woman like Rachel who has put so much effort into improving her self confidence (with an arguable degree of success) will see Jose's lack of it a real turn off.   She tries to hide her real feelings, but her facial expressions give her away every time. 

We should consider ourselves very lucky. 😍

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And what’s with these guys that cheat.  What the hell do they want?  Don’t get married in the first place, then break someone’s heart.

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10 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Bingo, you hit that nail right on the head!

I don't know what it is, but I'm a sucker for Pit Bull.  He's all kinds of not my type but somehow that doesn't even matter with him.  Now THAT's mojo!  

He’s all things my type.  I have second dibs on him.  He reminds me of my macho  husband.  Tall, dark, handsome, built and fresh. Lol.

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10 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Myrla strikes me as one of those women that uses sex as a weapon.  She will dangle the cherries then only allow them to be touched after she gets what she wants from a man.  Which in her case might include the right to spend her own money as she pleases and lavish gifts.

I have no problem with her spending on expensive things being she works hard, but what happens when she decides to stay home?  The money pressure is on him, and he might put the clampers on her for spending money he can’t provide. What happens when the kids come and kids cost money.  Why designer things?  Does she need Gucci for the supermarket?  I just loved when he mentioned her beautiful lips.  She said “what about my dress”.  So into herself.

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2 minutes ago, WhatAmIWatching said:

I can see it. He was a lot younger when they got together, and from all reports was extremely charismatic. (How else could he have wrapped judges and the calif bar around his little finger for so many years?)

Being a part of his world and having some of his reflected sun shine on her probably felt wonderful after a life of being nobody special. 
 

It's not my personal jam, but I can understand it.

Yes.  After the Vanderbilt thing, I didn’t watch all the time.  I’m wondering what makes Erika a star who thinks she’s so great.  All I saw was her being lifted up by her boys and doing provocative splits, etc and singing if you call it that.  Her best seller book was horrible, and maybe Tom pulled some strings to get her in Chicago, after everyone else was in.  She seems more of a stripper than a singer or actress or whatever the heck her act is.  She really believes she’s a star, or am I missing something?  Tom was probably a very good lawyer in his day until he became greedy.  They were so over the top with everything.  On other people’s expense and hardships.  Now she’s on t.v. Screwing it all up.  You would think she would be lying low.

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On 8/5/2021 at 5:32 PM, RoseAllDay said:

You don’t chase (or marry) a man like Tom Girardi out of love or attraction. I’m certain Erika didn’t. She’s angry that the money and glam lifestyle are coming to an end. So Tom is taking the brunt.

Unbelievable what a person would do for a buck.  I wouldn’t kiss that frog for all the money in the world.  I love Love.   Erika is a hard, hard woman.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 8/5/2021 at 5:28 PM, tranquilidade said:

I don't believe he was cheating on her based on the articles where victims say he talked about her affectionately.   

He’s too old to cheat.  At 82 or 83, he can barely take a pee in the morning or dress himself, then barely go do business in the office.  He probably has people doing everything for him at this point.  I don’t believe the mistresses story.  He’s done.  As of now, he’s done for sure.  He’ll go to court in a walker probably like Harvey Weinstein and put on the ole act.  They both will probably spill beans on each other.  It’s everyone for himself now.  They turn on each other.  She knows what’s coming .. that’s why she’s sobbing her eyes out.  Screwed!  It’s sickening how all the girls are doting on her.  Would they like it if it was them not getting their due?  Hell no.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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is Chrystal new on the show?  She doesn’t bring much to the table.

8 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Sounds like what was going on at the golf course in our city several years ago.  

I believe Erika knew it all.  All that was going on while she was married to him.  Her behavior suggests guilty mofo.  

That story was more interesting than the whole damn show.

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19 hours ago, chlban said:

Yes, the temper tantrum overshadowed other little tidbits. She actually looked nauseous when Sutton was explaining forensic accounting. I also rewatched today to confirm I didn't imagine that during the conversation about the Desert house she had never seen she said something about it being a place for a family. She was implying Tom may have had another family which is some giant leap. It's like she is trying out new lies all the time. Granted, it was only an implication, so testing the waters? I agree it does not matter if she is under oath or not. She is contradicting, on film, statements she previously made, on film. Jurors always have to decide the credibility of a witness. At this point, I'd believe Brandi over Erika.

Doesnt Erika understand that being on the show is not helping her case?  She’s getting more mixed up by the minute when she is lying.

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21 minutes ago, suzsqueak said:

As someone who grew up in Bel Air and Beverly Hills, I can definitely second this. My mother, who has two Ph.Ds, has never used a debit or ATM card in her life. She somehow doesn't trust them, and it seems really common with her group of friends. They all go into the bank if they need cash and still use checks all the time. This includes a few of her friends who were actually in banking. 

I could understand that.  Debit cards get compromised often, and it’s a big pain in the ass to straighten it out and get a new debit card.

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19 hours ago, dbell1 said:

I hate knowing this, but Kathy was spraying a Tatcha Dewy Skin mist a few episodes ago. Love their skincare, but it’s scented and I gave up on it. 

Watched the Hulu special on Erika and Tom. I hate them so much more now. Those poor victims. 
 

Is it anywhere else than Hulu?

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22 hours ago, WinnieWinkle said:

Definitely not your imagination.  I call it the reward those of us sticking with cable are getting for sticking with cable.  It's like they actually want us to cancel.

I would definitely pay more money to eliminate commercials.

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1 minute ago, shapeshifter said:

Responded with sad face above because of empathy for chronic pain due to too much lifting (kids, bulk food, etc.).

I know exactly what you mean.  Besides needing a second back fusion, I have had sciatic leg pain for four weeks now.  Worse pain than labor.  Had about 20 epidural steroid shots yesterday near my spine.  Not working yet.  Sorry for being a downer.  I feel for you too.

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On 5/21/2021 at 3:04 PM, Mindthinkr said:

@bilgistic They once sent me some kind of glue when I had ordered those yellow replacement parts to go into my hummingbird feeder. They wanted the glue returned. I told them I was not considering leaving my house to find a UPS to ship it back on my dime. They said no worries. They told me to leave it outside my front door on a certain day and they arranged for UPS to pick it up, package it, and mail it back while expediting what I did order to me. I felt bad for the UPS guy as he had to do all the work so I left him a gift card for some local (Jersey Mike’s) sandwich shop for his time and inconvenience. He was so happy with me that he gave me a “code” knock so that anytime he delivers I know he has come because I hear that special knock. Next time tell them you want that option. 

I told that story to my Son who was an UPS Driver for many years until he got a spine problem from lifting those heavy things.  Nobody knows what they endure everyday.  He had daily over 200 stops, rain, sleet, snow, no air conditioning.  Drivers throw up.  It’s the hardest job ever.  You did a wonderful thing for him and he won’t forget your kindness. 👍

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17 hours ago, OFDgal said:

Erika was claiming she didn't know how to make a deposit at the bank.  Where did she get the cash that she was depositing?  It must've been left over from all that cash that Tom had lying around that he gave her her spending money from.  lol

It was probably from the settlements in cash which is either in a safety deposit box or in Switzerland or hidden somewhere.  Her Effie face and that fake crying is Effie annoying, but most of all, those stupid women are all over her, except Darcelle who has her number.  If any of them annoy her, she threatens them.  Get off the show already.  I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with Tom either.

 

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6 hours ago, qtpye said:

feel like Myrla brought two sets of night clothes depending on how she feels about her new husband. The lumberjack signaled no way.

After that lumberjack scene, I went on line and ordered a pretty short silk wrap to wear around the bedroom.  What happened to the beautiful sets brides wore on their honeymoon and thereafter?

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11 hours ago, buttersister said:

Change her name?  Not on this shitshow with its track record of failed marriages. No fast answer to that question, sport. Heh, they’re so doomed for so many reasons. But call me, Gill. Let’s just say retirement means I don’t need—buy—the designer shoes, bags and outfits anymore.🤣🤣😉

Eh .. I have those designer bags with the heavy metal in my closet that everyone had to have.  Waste.  Now I’m at Vera Bradley crossovers that are very light and hold just enough that you need.  Now all the Kelly bags are the rage.  I’m over it all, being old.

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On 8/4/2021 at 8:58 PM, Julyolo said:

As usual, when Erica's facade falls off, she is one nasty piece of work.

I didn’t know she was this stupid to cry and blab everythingshe won’t even remember.  I also don’t remember her being so chummy with all the girls and talking anything about her marriage.  Was she constantly going to lunch and gathering with the girls this much when married to Tom.  It’s so obvious that she filed for divorce exactly when he got in trouble.  What other family?  She said they had take out every night all during Covid.  Liar, liar .. pants on fire.

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3 hours ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

I have a huge crush on Johnny. That's all. His timid "I really, really like you" in the previews...swoon. What a wholesome man. I hope Bao can ease up on her rules a little. The scene where he was happily helping her take out her hair pins was such an underrated moment of intimacy.

I still remember vividly my husband taking out my 100 hair pins in the bed.  That was the day when brides wore hair up in all big curls.  Now, I make him softly scratch my head until his hand gets numb, lol.

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1 hour ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Myrla didn't know what her groom would look like or be. She walked to the altar as Marilyn Monroe, but after meeting  Gil the Bald, Pitbull Owner, she went to bed as Doris Day.

(I'm as old as my allusions. That's how I roll.)

 

 

 

Get the popcorn ready.  Wait until she meets the Pitt Bull.  I’ll need a chocolate shake with that.

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22 minutes ago, Spectator said:

Ughhhh…I could not help but notice that both Brett’s and Ryan’s table manners left a bit to be desired. Just after Brett exhibited the lousy table manners you noted above, Ryan stuck his fingers in his mouth and pulled something out that I assume he simply did not want to swallow and then presumably put the partially chewed morsel back on his plate. Yuck yuck yuck. Yuck yuck yuck. That ranks waaaay up there on my faux pas list. Jeez…if he absolutely just had to do that, at least he could have turned his head away, covered his mouth with his napkin and discreetly put the inedible item into the napkin (without using his hands/fingers…yuck!) and folded it into the napkin and tucked it away (without looking at it!). 

I think the producers love to show clips of stuff like this. They say so much without anyone saying a single word. 

I finally realized this about Production.  Everything happens on purpose, and here we all are arguing with each other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Trying to word this properly. 
 

No one has a right to be touched or expected to have sex without consent. Dressing as Myrla did for the wedding doesn’t give anyone permission to unwillingly touch her in any way.  
However,  i am indeed surprised at people who feel the need to wear lumberjack flannel pajamas on their wedding night, and refuse their new husband the traditional kiss, but feel it’s fine that the strange  man and his family and friends and the viewing audience get to see all she has in physical attributes.  
 

It just doesn’t seem logical to me.  I am a private person, and don’t want to participate in outlandish things like a stripper batchlorette  party either.  My wedding dress had a sweetheart satin bodice, skirt  - and a lace overlay that had a normal collar  and lace sleeves.  I try to dress so that people I don’t want to touch me also don’t get to ogle me. That would have seemed more of Myrla’s desired dress to me. 

 

 

I am exactly the same way.  Besides, it’s only Day one.  There are many things to work out.  I don’t get the “no kissing” thing tho.  A quick kiss would have been very appropriate to end a beautiful day and create a memory.

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Why does Myrla’s and Gils’ differences in money handling and income matter?  Why does her spending her own money on herself matter? 
Because a marriage is supposed to be a partnership not just two people sharing a bed.  That’s a fling. 
If she is the major income, then she is going to have to contribute more than half of the shared income to get the house and lifestyle she wants with Gil.  If he can’t pay half of an international trip, then is she going by herself? If he can’t pay half of a McMansion in Houston, are they going to live separately?  What about after kids - will one of them stay home? If it is Gil, will she share her income if it means she can’t buy her designer clothing? If she stays home, can she handle the reduction in income and therefore in designer clothes? 

Many women can marry someone whose income is less because they understand it’s a partnership and income is to be shared, even if your lifestyle then decreases. Myrla has no intention of sharing her income with her husband or children. Gil will be expected to provide everything so that she can spend all her money on herself. 

That is why her spending matters.  

This was a perfect summation.  It says what marriage is about.  If she decides to be a SAHM, the bills will all fall on him.  What then?  She will buy sneakers for the kids before designer shoes for herself.  In some states, Firemen don’t make that much.  They depend on overtime.  We would have loved to travel to Europe, but three college tuitions came first.  In some houses, that’s the way it goes, and we both worked.  Mylah is thinking of now, not the future.

 

 

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7 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I was going to rewind to get it exactly right, but I forgot.  At one point he described himself as something like "less than 6 feet" and I about died. 

What puts me off more than anything is that every time he describes his idealized partner, he doesn't say "woman"; it's always "perfect woman."  Ugh.

It did not help to have a gigantic officiant. 

Rachel was a teeny bit taller than him, but I assume it was because she was wearing heels.  I wondered how that could have been avoided, so the couple would look "better" in the pictures, but I really don't think a producer advising her that she might want to wear flats would fill her with glee.

Is that a 5'8" with a ruler, or do we need to apply the conversion chart?  😀

Just joshing.  I agree with you, except for the "when I wear heels thing" because it shouldn't matter in any circumstance (which is why I put "better" in quotes, above).

I'm a 5'6" female and had a long-term relationship with a guy who was about an inch shorter than I was, so he was empirically short.  It didn't bother me (obviously), but it was something that I noticed, but only because that's what society dictates.  Normally I'd say, "Who cares?" but the answer would be, "A lot of people."

That said, there are lots of men who would never date a woman who's taller than them, so it does run both ways.  And even I notice it when there's a woman towering over her man; it turns out I admire it, but it distresses me that I can't not notice it.

 

I'm going to criticize Ryan on that one.  That was no place to try to teach someone to two-step.  When she said she didn't know how, he should have just done the eighth-grade awkward sway that everybody else does. 

There are men who can lead so well that the partner pretty much has no choice but to follow, but they are very very rare and Ryan obviously isn't one of them.  So just sway.  Although I can't get over the number of men who, knowing they're going to have to dance in front of everybody, don't even find out the traditional position, with their left hand out, so it looks more like a dance than a junior high grope.

 

I'm not so sure I've concluded that she doesn't get any personal professional development out of her job, but even if that's the case, so what?  I'd say she's lucky, because millions of people have jobs where the only thing they get out of it is the ability to spend a little bit of money.

 

True about the money.  In this day and age lots of couples have their own money and split things.  In my house we pool the money.  What’s his is mine, what’s mine is his.  In the beginning, we didn’t have enough to be frivolous.  Buying a house, a car, kids.  We couldn’t be frivolous.  No designer things for me.  Now, it’s different.  She might make more than him.  It’s only the beginning, so they will work things out hopefully.

 

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20 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Girl If he had another family EVERYONE would know. Stop this bullshit Erika 

She’s trying to imply that he was using this money on other woman and not her like he didn’t sink millions of dollars into her “career” ..it wasn’t me getting the money it was the mistresses…lol she’s such a bullshiter 

Yeah, like everyone in Beverly Hills wants him.  He’s such a cutie.  Barf.