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    It left me wondering what the ultimate payoff was for Oliver. Did he want the house and or money or just the destruction of these people? Is he really going to be satisfied going forward?

    The ultimate payoff was to just be with Felix in any way he could (friendship or romantically).  Then when his secrets was going to put the end to that everything spiraled. He tried to lure Venetia back in with a kiss and that wasn't working so she had to go.  To me, if all he wanted was Saltburn or to destroy the family he would not have waited 15 years to do so.

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    Can he really maintain that large house long term plus, it’s not likely he would be accepted by people at that level of society.

    He has the same chance of success at maintaining the estate as Elspeth had. She was living off of Sir James' money which she willed to Oliver. 

    I think by the time he gets Saltburn he knows this. He knew it all those years back: people not remembering his name when they sang Happy Birthday to him, not  holding the attention of Henry's wife at the party.  It's as Emerald Fennell says, a "Pyrrhic victory".  It truly is. He "won", but at the cost of not having Felix in the world. 

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    None of the staff or other family members thought these deaths were suspicious

    Twice when looking for Fellx, Duncan stopped and glared at Oliver. He is even standing on the mound looking at Oliver at Elspeth's grave. He knows Oliver is behind this. 

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    The family didn’t protest the will?

    For all we know Elspeth had no other family. Even if Sir James' sister (Felix's mother) wanted to contest it, she had already been cut out by Sir James. But I think it would have been unnecessary to delve into that. It is, to me, supposed to be a hollow victory for Oliver.  He probably dreamt of having a life like the one he now had, but it's tainted.

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  2. 25 minutes ago, DearEvette said:

    I wonder why the Mormon kid couldn't go home for Christmas? Or the Asian kid.

    Ye-Joon's parents were overseas and didn't want him to travel alone. The Mormon kid parents were overseas on a mission. 

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  3. 1 hour ago, Giuseppe said:

    How do you know it was fifteen years later when Oliver 'ran into' Elspeth? I might have blinked and missed a date or something. 

    People have said they can see the date on Sir James' obituary.  The barista and the people outside the café are wearing masks.

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  4. 5 hours ago, rmontro said:

    I can see the point some have raised though, where's the character's weird, dark side?  This must be the most "normal" portrayal of Wonka that we've seen.  He seems a very typical, likeable movie hero.

    My feeling is that I can see this Wonka evolve (or devolve) into the Gene Wilder one; especially he's had to endure years of paranoia surrounding the Chocolate Cartel and whatever other upstarts try to sabotage him. And considering when he came to town he was bamboozled, I can see him cloistering himself off and becoming more cynical. 

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    Ok, but what happened to Farleigh? Last I remember, Sir James ordered him out of the dining room, but then we didn't see him for the rest of the movie did we? Are we to assume Oliver offed him, too? 

    Sir James kicked him out for having drugs. He was banished again, and this time permanently. Sir James said he wouldn't do anything more for Farleigh.

     

    6 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

    The ending montage went a little fast for me, so I was unclear if they were actually showing us what Oliver did to Felix in the maze, and it looked like Venetia was asleep in the tub and Oliver placed two razer blades on the rim? Was he stalking Elspeth and set up the 'run-in' at the coffee shop? I couldn't really figure out what was happening. The timeline confused me as well because as far as I could tell, we didn't get any timestamps. I could deduce that some years had passed between Oliver leaving Saltburn and then seeing Elspeth in the coffee shop, but how much time? And what did he do to Elspeth anyway? Poison her? So many questions

    There was a 15 year time jump from Oliver leaving Saltburn to "bumping" into Elsepeth in the cafe.

    The montage showed Oliver spiking the alcohol, begging off to vomit and handing the alcohol over to Felix knowing he would drink it.  He left the razor blades on the edge of the bathtub. Venetia was susceptible as displayed by Oliver having her eat his croissant after telling her the night before in the garden that he wanted her to eat and not get up from the table (although, she did ultimately leave he table). 

    Surely after reading about Sir James' death Oliver started looking into Elspeth's life and found out she lived in that neighborhood. He located a cafe to hang out in in order to orchestrate "bumping" into her. 

    I am in the minority and believed Elspeth just got sick; and it hand nothing to do with Oliver. Yet, when she did get sick he made sure to have her amend the will so that it would come to her and then he killed her. But I don't think he was the initial cause of her illness because we would have been shown it.  

    6 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

    I do wish we had gotten a bit more insight into Oliver's frame of mind. I agree with others that the crazy seemed to come out of nowhere. 

    I don't think it came out of nowhere. From his parents we know that he already had a tendency to lie. A majority of what he did was driven by his need to be with Felix. Whether he was in love with him or just wanted to be him or a combination of both, he wanted to be a part of Felix's life.  When Felix first tried to ditch him after getting annoyed by him in his dorm and not inviting him to the pub; Oliver came up with the lie about his father. 

    When Oliver saw how fickle the Cattons were with Pamela, he started working on them individually so that they would like him enough to not think him boring and wanting him to leave (which was Pamela's fate).  He had to get Farleigh out the house because Farleigh was the only one who he couldn't manipulate. 

    Once Felix found out he was lying about his background, Oliver knew it was game over and that he was going to lose Felix and access to his life. He gave Felix a chance in that maze by putting his feelings on the line, but one Felix told him he made his blood run cold Oliver knew he had to kill him.  

    He tried to move on to Venetia but then she expressed how she and her father truly feels about him so he knew that would be a dead end, so he placed the razors on the tub so she could kill herself because he knew she would poison the family against him. 

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  6. Elliot and Helen arrive in Ireland after receiving an invitation to meet an old friend, Tommy, whom they hope will be able to provide answers about Elliot’s old life. But the couple are soon separated when Elliot is violently kidnapped. Held captive in a hidden location, he comes face to face with the McDonnell family, resentful enemies from his past, seeking revenge for actions that he can’t remember.

    Meanwhile, Helen, terrified that Elliot is in danger, teams up with Detective Sergeant Ruairi Slater to track him down – a search that will have them cross paths with someone she’s not ready to meet. Back in Australia, Ethan decides to win Helen’s heart back.

  7. On 12/8/2023 at 5:10 PM, AngieBee1 said:

    The Golden Globes nominations are Monday and I'm hoping that Barry gets nominated for Best Actor in Comedy, Rosamund Pike for Best Actress in Comedy and the film itself for Best Picture Comedy or Musical. 

    A well-deserved nomination for both but not in comedy. 

  8. Cooper knocked it out of the park with this one. Didn't love the note it ended on, but everything else was utter perfection.  Carey Mulligan was fantastic. 


    The prosthetics by Kazu Hiro to transform Cooper into Lenny were amazing.

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  9. The Golden Globes nominations are Monday and I'm hoping that Barry gets nominated for Best Actor in Comedy, Rosamund Pike for Best Actress in Comedy and the film itself for Best Picture Comedy or Musical. 

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  10. Very cute film. I was surprised that Timothee Chalamet carried the songs as well as he did.  Easy, breezy enjoyable holiday fare.  I especially liked the supporting cast like Matthew Baynton, Keegan Michael-Key, Paterson Joseph and Matt Lucas.

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  11. On 11/30/2023 at 1:44 PM, methodwriter85 said:

    It was kind of hilarious when Felix drives up to the house and he goes, "Wow, your mother must have gotten herself together because your house is quite lovely!" LOL Dude, that wasn't a council estate and you're kinda slow on the uptake here. LOL

    That entire scene was so well played by Elordi. Slowly - very slowly - the alarm bells start going off and then when he notices the manicured, watered lawn it gets a tad louder and then when he sees the "Gone Fishin'" scene you can tell he knows what will be behind those doors. I loved that scene. 

    And for both Fennell and Elordi to say how terrible a person Felix can be, he was so nice to make Oliver stay and have dinner with his parents because he knew it meant a lot to them. 

    Even in the maze scene with Oliver, it's as if his anger has died down and now he's jus sad. While he would have had every right to throttle Oliver, when Oliver throws up he asks if he feels better and suggests he goes to bed.  I think Oliver started out as a pity project to him or maybe a way to be a good person by taking him under his wings, but I think he felt a friendship with Oliver. Or at least the image Oliver created for himself while at Saltburn.

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  12. It was my intention to only watch the first episode, but I blew through the series in one night.  Absolutely loved it. It's been a while since Johnny has done a proper comedy. EMMA was funny, but his Mr. Knightley wasn't the comedic lead as he is in this.  He and Roisin are so great together.

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  13. Absolutely loved it. Very surprised how much I loved it.  Bening and Foster were fantastic.   I was with Diana's journey every step of the way.  I loved how they didn't shy away from her prickly personality - many driven people are prickly pears.

  14. Writer/director Emerald Fennell's directorial follow-up to 2020's PROMISING YOUNG WOMEN is another dark-comedy (being touted as a gothic thriller) following Oxford University scholarship plebe Oliver Quick (Barry Keoghan) who is instantly besotted with golden boy Felix Catton (Jacob Elordi). 

    Felix takes Oliver under his wing (much to the consternation of Felix's cousin Farleigh (Archie Madekwe) and invites him to stay at his stately home Saltburn. What transpires is a twisty, deliciously twisted look at obsession.

    My favourite film of the year.  Barry Keoghan is exquisite and Rosamund Pike is a delight.  

    The main complaint I see is that people say it's a ripoff of The Talented Mr. Ripley and yes, there are similarities, but this is very fun and riveting film that doesn't need any other film to bolster it.  It's a corker.

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  15. Frankie and Marcus' relationship is a great balm to Hawk and Tim's relationship.

    This is the only episode where I nearly didn't side with Hawk with his machinations. I thought he would pay off the hospital to not admit the Senator's son. Or say they admitted him and Hawk would set him up with a place somewhere. I didn't think that Hawk would even want this guy subjected to electroshock therapy.

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  16. Excellent film and Colman Domingo is incredible; just wish it was longer. They really rushed through the final act.  Bayard's story deserved more meat.

    Loved seeing all of these great figures in the movement portrayed like A. Philip Randolph and Cleve Robinson.

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  17. Marcus and Hawk would be so much better than Tim and Frankie. But I can see why Marcus and Hawk never went the distance because they are mirror images of each other.  I feel for Tim and Frankie but those two have to realize that expecting more from people who have already told you their rules of engagement is just going to lead to frustration and heartbreak. 

     

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  18. I love how pragmatic and uncompromising in his stance Hawk is.  This is his life and livelihood that is at risk. And I especially love how his steeliness extends to his family. I expected him to fold being at his father's deathbed, but he stayed resolute.  He really is his mother's son. His father said that as an insult, but it's a compliment.  They make no excuses for the decisions they made. 

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