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  1. I wasn’t surprised that Daisy was one of two but man I was hoping she wasn’t the one.  Her voice sends me.   Kelsey seems sweet but she’s like watching paint dry.  I wanted him to wind up with Lexi or Maria.   Lexi was curious to me because if timeline is a thing and you’re leaving a dude you’re already lowkey in love with to start over…. 

    He made a super safe tv choice with Kelsey,  i thought this might go the way of Ben and it wasn’t gone be either of them, he was gonna spin around and say he made a mistake in letting Maria go.  Yes she was kind of a neurotic mess, but he didn’t doubt that she loved him and needing some kind of guarantee as a result of what he’d been through with Charity was just retraumatizing himself.  Not that he doesn’t love Kelsey but there’s no sizzle.  

    Jen as the new bachelorette is meh; but I’ll take anyone over Leah.  She was talking shit even in the audience.  I never wanna see her, Sydney  or the tall drunk one  again. 

  2. On 3/19/2024 at 7:08 PM, call me ishmael said:

    Okay I am going to try one more time and then we can just agree to disagree 😎

    On one side you have a deeply insecure person who has been drinking too much and who is really worried (especially because of Jessica) that her fiancé isn't attracted to her.  In the midst of an argument she screws up.  Is that wrong and was Jimmy right to consider that a deal breaker?  Sure.

    On the other side, you have a show's production which has all sorts of film to choose from, an enormous amount of time to decide what to include, likely knows that this was a violation (do we really think that Jimmy didn't tell his producer), is aware that it will mess up two people's lives (who weren't main cast members), and sits down and rationally decides:  'hey it will help ratings so let's include this and watch all the fallout on social media."

    Which one of those two do you think is more blameworthy?  I don't care for Chelsea but she made a drunken error.  Netflix made a calculated decision.

     

    Sorry I’m late, traffic was terrible.   We do disagree but it’s all good.   😛Chelsea is more to blame.  Error, drunken faux pas, semantics.  Programmers can edit something out, not put in what was never said.  In fact the reason I hold Chelsea more responsible is she’s not a kid.  She’s 31 years old and somebody’s ex wife, but still fights like a college sophomore, just no holds barred.   I think we needed to know the exact reason it wasn’t gone work because a lot of folks find that navigable.   As for Jimmy, he’s also immature.  Chelsea was insecure about enough stuff without him thinking he was “helping” to be transparent with that story.  In order of assignment of blame:  Jimmy 60%, Chelsea 35%, Netflix 5%.

    Bobcat says it better though:

    On 3/24/2024 at 6:32 PM, Bobcatkitten said:

    At first I thought it was hypocritical for the show to air her outing the friend and Jimmy sleeping together. But honestly that one fight and that exact moment clearly was the reason the relationship/marriage didn't happen. I don't know how they explain it without that. 

     

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  3. 4 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

    Yes, and but also...

    Two things I'm 'gonna note about this situation. First, Chelsea fucked up not one, but two of Jimmy's friendships, just because she's got low self-esteem. Ole' girl he slept with is mad because her business is on front street and other girl is mad because half the world thinks that she's the one Chelsea was talking about. Is Netflix to blame - partially, but snakes 'gotta slither. This was mostly about a conversation that Chelsea probably started "Your best friends are two girls? Really? And you never did anything with them? Oh wait, so you did date one of them? How long ago is a long time? And you don't think it's strange that you and she are still friends????" I imagine this conversation came out after a lot of interrogation on her part and him trying to put her at ease - just like the million other times they showed. 

    Second, after all this time - it's been a year - she's never gone on television and apologized to those two women. How hard would it be to say, "I'm sorry." They were absolutely collateral damage, but she continues to act like it wasn't 1) FUCKED UP and 2) her fault.

    ….is why I can’t blame Netflix.  He told somebody he already didn’t trust a secret.  She weaponized it to make the dumb ass point that 27 year olds shouldn’t go out lol.  Gurlluh.  Shut your frowny face pie hole.   

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  4. 5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

    The fashion show, (I'll use the word "Fashion," loosely here), was ok production wise but fashion wise, it's a nope from me. Wendy was 100% right that when she wore that body suit with the open sides the other HW's lost their minds and were vocal about how bad it looked...then cut to now and it is in the collection. 

    Let's face it, there is nothing new that can be done to leggings, (the invention of the the cell phone pockets were the best thing ever) and none of their clothing designs looked well made or wearable.  What would be interesting is to see a HW actually go to fashion school, learn to sew, cut patterns, learn about fabrics and color and not have to hire a designer to do all their work.

    I looked at the GnA website and that is all I am going to say about it.

    Did anyone think Sesame Street did a little work to her face for her appearance on this season? She looked less Muppet like maybe?

    All I wanted to do was pull up the one side of G's dress to cover her bra that was showing out of the top of her neckline.

    Wendy's show guests were new names to me, good for Wendy to get that many women to appear on her pilot.  Her producer would not discuss the budget because she hates to talk money, isn't that a lot of what a producer does, handle the money?

    The fight at the end of the episode will be shown, right?

     

    I'm crying real tears! 😂

    2 hours ago, J80134 said:

    Kadooz to GnA for pulling off a show. I wasn't sure where I was going to get a polyester cape and coordinating coochie cutter body suit that goes from workout to cocktails with such sophistication.

    Wendy still butt hurt about the lack of rallying over mama's colonoscopy (pun intended).

    Oh, candyass, if you have a baby you can't be the baby (great line from overboard)

    Rob is getting in early with Glo30 (only about 5 open locations) but her and the company are way late to the membership spa game. Big investment + risky return does not equal financial security.

    Jackie got her dig in on Mia right quick. She knows she's chubbed up. That's why she wore that yellow tent.

    Potomac has used this we got audio but no film shtick a few times. Audience speculation about a cliffhanger is a TV staple...who shot JR?

    Laughing Out Loud Lol GIF by Minions

    I mean...was it coordinating? *sigh* you coulda been a contenda, Rock!  You got a good chance of selling me something pink and you might be able to sell me something shiny, but you need to show it to me on a lady who's a real-life dress size, who has tiddy meat, food baby and it fits her properly.   Why the hell was that holey leotard so big on her?  If I leave a show thinking girl when/where am I ever wearing that, you bombed.   Still, it's more than we've seen from Sheree in 10 years.

    1 hour ago, drivethroo said:

    More thoughts on the episode:

    There was no need for "Monarch Magazine" (never heard of them) to exclude Nneka. It's obvious this was a cast shoot, she was the newest person on the cast.  The article could have been introducing Nneka to the DMV society.

    Wendy's mom* is as important to her as Gizelle's father & children are to Gizelle. Anyone mocking Wendy for being concerned about her mom's small procedure is basically saying what Gizelle's dad had going on should've been more important to Wendy than what was going on with her mother. Gizelle would not have received any well wishes from Wendy or Candiace anyway so they were correct not to go to Gizelle and express them.  

    Gizelle is about to find out what she dished out on Karen a few seasons ago.  She will get the grace she denied Karen.

    If what Mia was saying was true (and Gordon did not deny it), Gordon was/is financially abusing Mia.  Mia, unlike Ashley, is trying to get herself out of that situation. Maybe not in the right way (rapper/radio DJ) but she's not sticking around for a broke, abusive situation.

    I still haven't seen exactly where Robyn's skin care clinic will be but I feel like it's going to be near the new Bath & Body Works on the Target side of the shopping center.  Siince Juan isn't doing anything, Robyn needs to stick a paintbrush in his hand and put him to work.

    *Wendy's mom was with her at WWHL last night, she appears to be laying off the skin bleaching.

    There was literally not one reason Nneka couldn'tve been included in that fun little dress up game.  Since nobody looked like their icon anyway, she could've met up with them 3 hours later and come as Lauryn Hill.

    Agree with the first part.   As to the second, I dunno if I think they were right not to express well wishes - and lemme say I don't remember how the green eyed monsters responded to Mama Osefo - but I wouldn'tve said/didn't like that Wendy said out loud that (paraphrasing) she didn't give a shit because that's how they treated her.  Because she's so close to her mom, I think she actually does give a shit and missed a moment to be genuine and mature on some:  I know we don't always see eye to eye, but I'll be keeping your family covered in prayer.   It's tough for someone to continue shittiness after that.  I understood it, I just think it was as unkind as she accuses them of being when she could've said nothing.  Andplusalso, even frenemies know when to set aside claws for a real life crisis.   Ok last thing - there's a teeny tiny part of me that thinks on the gravity scale, a colonoscopy and brain cancer don't compare, but overall, worrying about your parents is worrying about your parents. 

    12 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

    I looked at Monarch Magazine on line, there is an article about Robyn and Gizelle but I did not see anything about the others.

    Robyn and her new biz venture will be a lot of work and we have seen Robyn flit from project to project so we will see what happens. I thought it was funny that Robyn gives her ideas for the layout of the new spa as if it has not been decided by HQ.  

    Robyn has a great location, so many stores and restaurants in that shopping center it shouldn't be hard to be seen and get walk ins.

    You know Juan isn't going to do anything to help this venture, he will be happy that Robyn is out of the house and busy and he will be free to do as he pleases, maybe even do a little, "laundry."

    Did we hear Mia say she got some good d**k and that was why she was happy? Didn't she also tell us that G's d**k is not working...hmmm.

    I plan on getting a facial from Glo 30, maybe let's do a MD/DC/VA meet up spa day? 

    That made me laugh a lot.

    Oh we doing field trips?  I got the time and these Spirit points, say less I'll catch a shuttle. 

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  5. 2 hours ago, call me ishmael said:

    See this is where we disagree, and not just because judge Judy is a travesty.  I’m not defending Chelsea (something I haven’t done all season).  Chelsea did Chelsea.  No one made the show say “Chelsea violated confidence so let’s make sure Jimmy’s friend suffers from her actions.”  The show decided to do that when they knew from one of the others (Jimmy) that it wasn’t cool.  
     

    I’m not surprised they did that.  They are  In it for ratings and controversy and embarrassment gets ratings.  But don’t then turn around and go on about how this isn’t about entertainment and how important it is to take account of people’s lives.  

    I’m surprised that people seem to want to minimize the responsibility of the show for their editing choices.

    I’m dead!  What’d Judy do to you? 😂😂😂

    How’d LIB find out about an off-camera convo?

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  6. 3 hours ago, Empress1 said:

    Amy’s red gown is a lot, with the … half sleeves? Cuffs? I’ve never fully understood why the dress code for reality show reunions is “pageant.” Like, Sarah Ann really had on body glitter. In 2024. At age 30, or however old she is. Oh-kay.

    I never thought Jeramey was cute but I thought he looked terrible on this reunion. Just nothing attractive there at all, either in looks or personality. He just seems like an asshole.

    Exactly. Jessica said it best- at the most basic level, Sarah Ann and Jeramey could and should have handled the situation more respectfully, and people are entitled to think they’re foul because of it. If Laura really thought Jeramey was it for her, that they were going to get married and have kids and alladat, then I agree with her that Sarah Ann and Jeramey made a mockery of that, and that sucks. I do think they’re a better match than Jeramey and Laura, but the way they got together is iffy at best, and actions have consequences.

    Watching Trevor just sitting there with his mouth hanging open was hilarious, I can’t even lie.

    Cameron posted that while he has no beef with the show, one, he and Lauren had a prior engagement so couldn’t make it, and two, he wasn’t really feeling season 6 like that (he said he tried to watch it but it was too much about drama). Basically: we’re like six years out from this, we’re good, let somebody else do it.

    I saw a clip online where she said she tries to make Clay realize what he missed out on “every chance [she] gets” and I was like, girl … Like, he’ll learn the lesson of “my actions had consequences I don’t like” by being denied access to her. Her hugging up on her (which she said she did, she said they’re all over each other when they see each other and call them “flirty friends”) doesn’t teach him anything except that he can still have her if he wants.

    Cam is a sweetheart.  I can’t even picture him being stern about anything lol.  Lauren is too but I can hear her say:  This is co-wash day. Boy, please. 😁

    She’s soft hearted to her own detriment.  He looked like he was bout break bad again when she told us about going out with Matthew…twice lol!  Flirty friends.  Mmhmm.  Bet we find out they’re keeping comp’ny. 

    7 hours ago, call me ishmael said:

    I wasn’t expecting the show to care.  I was just saying that’s it’s rich for Nick to be lecturing Trevor about real life implications when the show doesn’t care.

    Sure, let’s run the risk of messing up someone not on the show’s life for the sake of plot consistency.  

    I think it’s a hair splitting difference but hear me out.  Trevor is making representations to the show about himself/his availability that are untrue. If they know it when they cast him, it’s diabolical to have him on, but:  ratings.  If they don’t know it and find out post production but before the reunion, it’s still ratings gold.  To the point somebody made upthread, you don’t shock the network, that’s their job lol.  So if he did, mazel, but quid pro quo, there’s a price to pay and example to be made.   Hopefully the guy gets some help cause bringing his ex’s kid into the story is another level.
     

    The friend Jimmy slept with was, quite unfortunately, collateral damage.  See, I agree with you, she didn’t have shit to do with this.  If you’re still here thank you for your patience.  So two things:  By the time Jimmy disclosed it to Chelsea, he already knew what her conflict m.o. looked like.  Now what’s the most likely outcome when you hand an undisciplined sniper some ammunition?  Thassright, everybody catches strays.   And B: it was told off camera.  But for Chelsea’s character deficiency, Netflix would never have had it to air.

    I’m not mad that you’re mad, but as The Honorable Judith Sheindlin would say, you’re suing the wrong defendant.

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  7. On 3/13/2024 at 11:23 PM, Tess23 said:

    Sarah Ann still doesn't get it, does she? She and Jeramy deserve each other. 

    And everybody rooting for em is gone wind up with their feelings in shambles when they find out 6 months from now that he’s cheated on her with his baby’s mother.

    On 3/14/2024 at 12:23 AM, Snapdragon said:

    I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm not really bothered by Sarah Ann and Jeramy.  Should Jeramy have broken things up with Laura earlier?  Yes.  Was it appropriate for him to talk with Sarah Ann until 5am?  No.  But acting as if this is a normal dating/engagement situation is just ridiculous.  Sarah Ann and Laura dated Jeramy for the same amount of time and at the same time.  Her sending him a message saying, "Hey, if things don't work out, give me a call" makes sense to me.  We're talking about a show where out of the five couples that usually make it out of the pods, only 1 or 2 relationships actually result in marriage.  It's not as if Sarah Ann and Jeramy dated for two years, broke up and then a year later he started dating Laura, proposed to her after two years and then Sarah Ann tried to get him back.  Also, Laura is a mean girl!  I don't think she really loved Jeramy either.  She just wanted to beat Sarah Ann and when she did, she had the biggest poo-eating grin on her face as she "consoled" Sarah Ann after Jeramy broke up with her in the pods.  This is a woman who complained about Sarah Ann's message to Jeramy, then in the next breath encourages Jessica to go after Jimmy while he's still engaged to Chelsea.  And then there's the whole beandip situation! (which she brought up again, despite AD obviously not being happy about it, just because she was trying to save her image, the selfish cow)  So yeah, what Jeramy and Sarah Ann did wasn't cool but Laura isn't some innocent angel.  She's just mad that she "lost" and the fact that she's with someone else now but still so upset is very telling.

    What Jeramey should have done is the same thing Zack did.  Be a grown up, acknowledge out loud that the woman you chose is not the one you wanted and interrupt the process by telling the producers, your fake fiancée and the woman it turns out you do want, the truth.  Zack didn’t lie, cheat or sneak around and he still got what he wanted by simply being transparent.   I don’t think anyone is pressed that Sarah Ann and Jeramy are together, but the how and when they got together was disrespectful af.  She pursued a man who’d already passed on her, after the point of his commitment to someone else.  And because he’s an ain’t shit dude his own mama doesn't believe, he responded while in the commitment.  They didn’t go at em hard enough.  Being called to the carpet for behaving inappropriately and disruptively then being delusional about how it is received is not bullying, it’s being held accountable for your choices. Considering her affinity for red baseball caps, it shouldn’t shock me that she struggled to understand while AD was trying to give her a hand with it.  If Laura was unbearable, mean, condescending, etc. that was his opportunity to use her treatment as the excuse to say I don’t like it here no more, Seacrest out. ✌🏾

    On 3/14/2024 at 2:33 PM, ichbin said:

    I think they did it as a cautionary tale for people entertaining similar ideas in the future by letting them know they will be humiliated on TV if it comes to light.  It wouldn't surprise me to learn there is a clause in their contracts making reunion attendance mandatory.  I'm not sorry they showcased him and those messages considering the sympathetic edit he received during the episodes.

     

    All in all this wasn't a great season.  I still think season one of Sweden is the best.

    Yeah somebody should check on Trevor.  He has that same low-key sociopathic trait those people on Catfish do.   

    On 3/14/2024 at 6:14 PM, yellowcalla said:

    I was disappointed that we didn't get more updates from Chelsea and Jimmy. Is it just me or is anyone else confused if they are now together or not? There were moments when their exchanges communicated a lot of respect and care for each other and other moments where you could see there were deep wounds.

    Jimmy just looked so sad throughout most of the show.

    She posted on her IG that they tried making it for 4 days following taping and they just couldn’t.

    On 3/14/2024 at 9:40 PM, Artsda said:

    Sarah Anne and Laura at the lake house made Sarah look less villain.  The show put out she showed up and left with him on jet ski.  They left out conveniently her apologizing. 

    Does Laura even know what show this is, he held my dog! My grandmother has a flight. Would she rather he went to the wedding then say no? 

    Chelsea jumping in saying everytime she sees Jimmy they're broken up was ridiculous. She herself is the worst.  She should have been called out more. 

     

    Sitting a lady down to justify why you’re trying to poach the man she’s with is some new age 2024 mess.  She approached her because they were there.  Something like 5 days had passed between the location-share and the lake house and Sarah Ann hadn’t reached out to Laura one time that we know of, on or off camera.   

    The things that kept coming out her mouth at the Re’une also did her no favors.  Going back and forth over being called a pick-me with the woman your dude actually chose is secondhand embarrassing lol.  When Jess said “just like you said you were gonna do in the pods” we knew what it was.  To which Sarah said “I’m not here to make friends….”     So why are you loud and beat about getting put out the girls’ group chat?  Tuh!

    I think you meant Jeramy.  At first he said I haven’t seen you, then he said I’ve seen you once.  Chelsea is not the muffucah to play with about receipts hunny lol.  She proceeded to name the times, dates and bars where they ran into each other. Told Jeremy what her verbatim questions and his verbatim responses were.  After which he did recall after all and confirmed that he and Sarah have “had their ups and downs” like all couples.

    12 hours ago, call me ishmael said:

    And did it not dawn on anyone there that while yes, it was pretty horrible for Chelsea to violate Jimmy’s confidence, it was the show that chose to put that in the episode?  

    Yes but, had they not allowed the audience to see it, we wouldn’tve known the exact moment the straw and broke back camel showed up for Jimmy.  Excluding that random thing Clay said about AD’s finances, we usually get to see the moment it all turns to dust.

    Clay is a fast blinking, saying a lotta words but nothing substantive, salesman.   He has acquired more self awareness but the follow through is 2 stars, do not recommend. Someone online said, he does need healing but she is not that boy’s hospital.  ::tambourine pap::   For her own good I hope AD is moving past her build a bear phase because 🎶 truth is I’m tired.  Spending your time investing in making a man better for the next woman he meets?  She needs to unpack that.  There was a point when Kenneth and Brittany were talking about FaceTime’ing every day and the camera man swung over to Clay/AD in time to catch him give her an I told you so tap on her thigh.  That made me worry that they got back together.

    Nessa gurl, I smooth don’t care about any portion of the Lachey love story.  We got it, you ultimatumed him, it worked out.  Sis-boom-bah.  But you turn into a cot-damb porcupine anytime somebody says the words Jessica Simpson…..and it’s been 20 years.  Feel free to grab a towel and join Chelsea in the self esteem sauna.
     

     

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  8. 4 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

    I would have done a bolder lip, a necklace (I can hear my mother saying “you need something around your neck!”) and that slit was really high. I love a slit (I‘m tallish and have long legs) but I’d be worried about showing too much with a slit that high, so I’d want it closed a couple of inches.

    I told my sister I was disappointed that she didn’t have a MUA.    I was really looking forward to seeing her in a lash less ostrich-y and makeup with color in it.  Even if not different than normal, that’s probably the one day I’d want to look like a professional did my face. A lot of people liked/loved the dress.  It looked great on her, but it was a little nekkid for me.  Arms, chest, shoulders and thigh meat is a couple too many areas out on a day that’s supposed to be *sacred*

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  9. 52 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

    If he’s not ready to be a stepdad, he shouldn’t be (and I maintain that I don’t think a single parent of an underage child going on this show is appropriate). Even if his reason is “I don’t feel like it,” that’s a good reason - the best reason, really.

    And “company” in this case is “everybody with access to a Netflix subscription.” It would be bad enough if she just told her group of friends, but she told EVERYBODY. I don’t care about Jimmy and his friend one way or the other, but you should be assured that your person won’t put your business on front street if you ask them not to. And if they do, they should be genuinely apologetic. Chelsea was like “I mean, it’s how I felt so whatever.”

    His whole comportment screams “not ready.” Even the way he approached her at the altar said it. “I mean, why does the timing matter” - sir, please read the room and approach the situation with some humility. You don’t get to get defensive here. The way he handled their talk afterward said it - don’t be hugging up on her when you broke her heart! If you want absolution, go to church. 

    I said elsewhere that he’s probably one relationship away from being ready and I stand by that. AD might end up as the one who got away.

    Hmmph! Gurl in the Council of Bosoms group chat I said she went ahead and built a bear for some other lady.  Meanwhile, whomever that is might have a more Clay-pleasing face, but emotionally, he’ll never do better.  He’s gone be older than his old man in the club ass daddy by the time he realizes it too.

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  10. 56 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

    Not really. We know production probably told Wendy go over there however if Gizelle and Robyn were talking loud enough and Wendy heard her name being mentioned, she would go over there to be like "Whatchall talking bout?" (knowing they were talking about her)

    Maybe I’m personalizing.  Nonetheless, this is messy and Zen Wen is a bunch of different things.  I don’t get messy from her.  Now Ashley, yeah she’ll poke a bear all day.

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  11. “you met me but you wasn’t good to me”

    ::flaps open MLK fan::  Ch’urch, let us pray.

    When Clay’s nogoodassdaddy said you know I didn’t have too many examples…and Ms. Margarita said now Imma stop you right there.  I forgave you, but you need to be accountable for your actions and give your son a full-throated apology for some of the things you did that I’m just finding out about as a result of this show.   Big age trash ass man in a big age trash ass pity party.  No!  Including A.D., her mama Tesh and Ms. Rita, Clay has been cloaked with women who’ve coddled and encouraged him in the gentlest ways that it’s possible to treat a grown man.   At the end of the day, she’s fortunate.  He could’ve let her think he was healed and tried faking it till he was making it.  She’s a better woman than I could ever imagine being.  I tapped out at the luncheon where they were talking about his work schedule keeping him a away from home and he delivered this “then what’s the problem then?” with a lil too much sauce, for me.   Slickmouthing in the middle of a calm conversation is an automatic abort mission.   But if all of the things that kept him from saying yes weren’t specific to her, why bring your commitment phobe ass on a show whose purpose is to wind up in a commitment?   A.D. “it was a waste of my fucking time”…..for all of us, gurl.  For all of us.

    Producers I’m gone need for you to do better, much damb better.  When a jilted bride is leaving her own wedding in a double-R, the driver needs to open her door.  TF?

    I see the #FreeJimmy movement was a success.   If we can imagine a couple who’s been married for years and the wife says something in front of company that was shared on the condition of confidentiality, that’s a rough climb, even with loads of prior trust built in.   Her insecurities drove everything out of proportion, she didn’t accurately listen to what was being said in the moment, had no idea what it meant to respect boundaries and wasn’t interested in initiating de-escalation.   There’s no upside.

    I never remember Amy and Johnny until I see em.  She needs to get her goofy ass on the pill though.  There’s a man made contraceptive so popularly effective that it doesn’t even have a name, it’s just called THE pill and she’s worried about how it will affect hormones that it was manufactured to work in conjunction with.  It’s giving Disney.  You’re a whole wife, talk to your OBGYN.

     

     

     

     

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  12. I’m no Giselle fan, but she wasn’t looking at Wendy and couldn’t see Candace so I’m not sure she would’ve multitasked talking about Grace, listening and responding to questions about her and reacting to mean mugging all at the same time.  I mean the reason it even enters the chat is because cause Robyn makes her aware.  Now what is completely inorganic is having standing beef with someone and walking up to them like whatchyall talmbout? Y’all not slick, production.  Karen needn’t  have said shit.  If you’re Switzerland, hush until you’re asked for your opinion.

    Miss Ashley needs to be a wanton woman in peace and quit talking about a divorce.  She signed a pre nup, then a post nup (the infidelity clause of which he violated) so if she doesn’t have stacks in that account, ain’t no helping her.  She’s the primary caretaker for two back to back babies, there’s not one reason she can’t sue him for child support, right now.  it doesn’t have to be an issue decided with divorce.  One of my closest sued her husband (bf at the time) for child support whilst living with him.  Made dinnertime tense as hell, but when there’s nothing to lose, bet the house.  Michael might want visitation weekends but he damn sure doesn’t want custody.  Between the show, child support, moose knuckle pants and the yogi workout she should be releasing, she bullshittin.  Porsha’s on her second divorce, 1st millionaire baby’s father and whole ass weave line and still don’t have to get outta bed before 10.

    I’m lost at Candace trying to articulate what the issue with Robyn is.  Weren’t they just co-crying barside over Robyn’s hairdressers sister passing?  By the time they explain for real, I won’t care. 

    Karen’s body is fierce, for any age.  But I need her to tighten up the fit of those Fire Marshall Bill-ass teeth.  

    How old is Mia?  I never noticed this before but she has a booty-do.  Peri-menopause?  I’m on the middle pedestal raising my fist gurl, them hormones is whole muffucah. 

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  13. When I say I can’t wait for Joey to get a look at all this shiddy behind the scenes footage?

    idiotas:  I just…{{hiccup/gag}} ugh..can’t take it anymore, you’re making my life hell with your bullying!!

    Maria: {{runs hand through hair}} I don’t know what you mean, gimme an example of how I’m bullying you.

    idiotas:  OMG!!! You’re doing it right neeowwww!! STOP! Get away from me, you’re toxic.  

    I hope Maria tortures these bitches in perpetuity and sends out calligraphy’d stationery every time she and Joey celebrate a milestone.  “We’re having a bully-baby, please save the date for the harassment shower!” 😛

    I hope they get ate tf up at this tell all

     

     

     

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  14. @Baltimore Betty BSC = Bat Shit Crazy.  

     

    36 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

    Not at a child's Communion event.  It wouldn't even be appropriate at her own child's Communion event.

    Wendy's mother likely means because she gave birth to Wendy, she gave birth to the boys.  If she never had Wendy, the boys would't be here.  I really didn't see anything wrong with what she said or took offense to it.

    Wendy's mother has some internalized colorism going on and I can't help but wonder if negative reaction to her original skin color from people who look like Robyn, Gizelle and Ashley is the reason why. 

    I don't think that's a discussion that should be had on this show because most of the cast is dedicated to pretending not to know what's going on.

    I find it interesting Ashley's boob job was received positively but Wendy's boob job was viewed with suspicion.

    Nneka...

    The way I'm understanding the story she told was Wendy's sister Ivy had been contacting Nneka's husband's cousin to tell the cousin that Wendy was upset because she felt Nneka was using Wendy's name to socialize with the Potomac cast.  Sister Ivy called Nneka a clout chaser and Wendy was going to get a restraining order on Nneka. Then Wendy's mom called this same cousin in law to tell her to tell Nneka to keep Wendy's name out of her mouth and she was going to pray against her on her shrine. Robyn starts saying OMG VOODOO and Nneka rolled with the voodoo/shrine accusations.

    Don't Catholics have altars/shrines? I'm not Catholic but I thought some Catholics have altars/shrines in their homes (as do many other religions).  I'm not liking this OMG VOODOO? storyline because it's ignorant and xenophobic and when Wendy confronts them on it they will all pretend to be clueless and not know what's going on.

    In the words of Wendy, they are slow. They can't be uplifted.

    LOL @  Candiace and her "Gurl I told you so" looks at the table.

    LOL LOL at the Michael Myers music they played when Deborah popped up.

    Wondering how Keiarna will be received by the rest of the group.

    Let me officially welcome you all to the: African Mothers Thought Processes Support Group.  ::looksaroundroom::  Hi. My name is 'damo....and I'm a survivor.  

    So, not only an explanation of heritage and biology, the real point is that we all understand that she's taking credit for this and subsequent events, because after all, without her, there is no Wendy.  And again, without her, there are therefore no grandchildren to have been communed.  So she's also responsible for leading the prayer.   Please resist the urge to point out Eddie and his parents.  It's shorter to let your African mama Mufasa a whole situation than force her to acknowledge the obvious.  Just follow Ivy. Get a drink and help yourselves to the refreshments in the back.

    I thought the surgery Wendy had was to her booty but now thatcha mention it, her front is quite....alert.

    Ashley's are nice but she's got such a small frame, I wish she'd gone like a half a size smaller.  I get that that's a real grass is greener situation though.   That thing she said about not knowing how to dress them yet.  Lol.  Yeah shit's all fun and games until you're ordering a double xl tank top for no good gottam reason.  

    34 minutes ago, eXiled said:

    Nothing particularly memorable happened during this episode, IMO, so I'm gonna post about the various thoughts I had while I watched:

    - Auntie Kern looks good. I don't know what she's doing, but she needs to keep it up. The only thing I didn't like was how closely her makeup matched her yellow dress during Wendy's event. What's going on with Potomac's cosmetics this year?

    - Robyn looked gorgeous in that pink dress. Luminous. That's a great color for her.

    - Gizelle's pink outfit had the opposite effect, IMO. I prefer Giz in blue. She pops in navys and royal colors. I'd like to see her strut around in some deep purple. She would eat everybody up!

    - Ashley is working them titties out. I wonder if we'll ever see someone massage 'em. Ashley ain't the smartest chick in the world, but she does know how to do reality and keep interest. She knows anyone who's willing to film with her is for the streets -- and for a check. She'll probably keep any real relationships off-screen.

    - Wendy and Mia need to move on. During the end of last season, Wendy and Mia were flashing coochie at each other, correct? Mia even hinted that she wouldn't mind dining on Wendy's dish. I take it that the kitchen is now closed?

    - Grace Bryant is lovely. She seems fun and frisky.

    - Karen and Robyn's agreement to not discuss rumors works for me. Karen doesn't want anyone talking about the younger, blue-eyed men she's allegedly screwing in bathrooms. Robyn doesn't want anyone talking about Juan's inability to even pretend to be in a real marriage. They both win.

    - I'll never understand why Candiace entertains Ashley. She still wants to be her friend. Ashley will always walk through the door Candiace opens, kick Candiace in the teeth, and be upset when Candiace's machine gun of a mouth mows her down.

    - Uncle Lump looks nice. He may be the one reason Ashley is only half a sociopath. If Mia had had an Uncle Lump in her life, she'd be a very different hoe today.

    Karen:  you almost slayed girl.  It's either the floofy hat or the elbow gloves.  Both is doing too much.....which is saying a lot a Nigerian party. 

    I see t-shirt season's starting early.  

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  15. This thing own?  

    SweetTea, KeneashTea, meltdowns?

    Quad bearing gifts and giving gracious ex at a party to which she wasn't invited?

    Toya aka HaiTea having a seizure then leaving b/c Quad came even though bridey was shockingly diplomatic about it. 

    Since when did wedding planners dictate the budget?  Listen Craig, imma slide another 1800 usd across this here table, do what you want with that but don't call my phone anymuffucin more today, k? 

    Not Damon and Heavenly gaslighting this baby bout school?  lol!!  I hope she goes to the University of Honolulu.  

    How long is it gone be until we can see the wives react to ass cheeks on the party bus?  Curtis' face mole was contracting. 

    That is all. 

     

     

     

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  16. On 11/14/2023 at 5:05 PM, Roseanna said:

    George didn't lie to Bertha, he only didn't tell her about Turner's "offer". I am sure that Bertha knows her husband so well that she can trust him to tell the truth now whereas she has no cause to trust Turner.  

    If Bertha had doubted George, she would have certainly said so. But she regarded as a betrayal that he hadn't told the incident but let Turner be near to her and touch her, see he naked by dressing and undressing her.

    Thinking anew, I understand Bertha more. Let's image your best friend had made a pass on your husband and he didn't tell it to you. It's much worse than if a woman you don't know does the same. Turner owed loyalty to her mistress.

    Admittedly, I'm personalizing my opinion.  This is a debate within my immediate circle of bosoms that either ends in laughter or profanity or both.  Omission is a/the lie.  I'll see myself out 🙃

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  17. On 11/12/2023 at 10:56 PM, sistermagpie said:

    Oscar Wilde's plays are definitely not known to be boring--which is probably why this one's rarely done. It was the first one of his performed, according to Wikipedia, and closed after a week. No surprise.

    Most of plays, at least the ones I've seen, aren't tragedies, though. It seems like that's what they were hinting at. Basically people saying, "Wow, the play's terrible but he's hilarious in person..." Iow, he'll be a hit when he starts writing plays that are more like himself.

    I can understand why Bertha's mad a George, certainly, but if I were her I'd at least look forward to telling Turner how embarassing it must have been for her to get naked and then get thrown out of bed

    The Colyer girl seems to have inherited her family's heartlessness. Turns out the guy didn't do anything wrong except be a loser. Which is a perfectly good reason to divorce him, I guess, but the way they're treating him makes me want them to get found out. 

    I am so rooting for Ada and the minister. I find his Boston accent endearing--no idea if it's well-done or not, but it's not aggressive or distracting, but still a nice character note. As soon as they brought out the soup I knew this was no soup, it was chowdah! I wonder why he hasn't married. Seems like he was trying to make some sort of point with that story about the painting. But I suppose he also doesn't have much money? 

    He lied about it to begin with, so she doesn't know with certainty what happened, she knows what he said happened.  A sentence like this has your petty rival ready to respond with:  what makes you think he threw me out?  Now you look smug and dumb and lied to some more...in front of your husband's strumpet.  Nope. 

    On 11/12/2023 at 11:13 PM, AntFTW said:

    I'm sorry. Help me out. I don't know what this means. ☺️

    Girl imma need you to watch all 112 Seasons of Downton Abbey.  Goofy ass side movies too.  If the first episode doesn't get you, please hang in there for the first appearance of Dame Margaret Natalie Smith.  I wish she'd make an album reading us the alphabet so they could gawn and make her an EGOT already.  I digress.  Watch it for real lol.  

    On 11/13/2023 at 11:30 AM, Pop Tart said:

    Agree on this. It allowed her to land a blow on Bertha in the moment, but will likely come back to haunt her.

    Also agree with others she's being very short-sighted in her need to show up Bertha. She should never have come to an event at the Russells as it makes no matter if the Russell family keep her secret or not. As soon as the other servants see her the gossip is going to fly. 

    She could have kept her previous identity secret much longer by not appearing anywhere where the people who knew her before would be (beyond the Russells). To the Russell servants the gossip about a new Mrs. Winterton (?) would mean nothing as long as they never saw her.

    I sympathized with both Bertha and George in their fight. He did turn Turner away as soon as he realized so to his mind he had not betrayed Bertha. But to have a woman dressing you, doing your hair, giving you advice, etc. who had tried to sleep with your husband and you know nothing about it? Especially if you find out about it publicly from the venomous woman who was responsible? That would really hurt - especially as Bertha and George see themselves as a team.

    Generally, I'm not sure most men understand the exact nature of the betrayal here. Especially because this is a character not only very much in love with his wife, but in tune to her.   The physical construction of an affair is almost forgiveable.  If and only if a) you don't have an emotional tie to her and just as importantly b) you deny her the power to surprise me with something about my own relationship.  Bay-bee that letter b)?  I'm really shocked she didn't put him downstairs with Monsieur Borden n'em. 

    22 hours ago, Juneau Gal said:

    Turner was not dismissed by George after her advances, what was she dismissed for? I can’t remember. Thanks in advance. 

    This is the other thing.  That would've been her job and her decision to make, so her ultimate dismissal doesn't mitigate anything for Bertha.  Turner knows that George kept it a secret because Bertha didn't fire her the next day.    When George asked if the introduction to the Duke would get him off the hook, I really needed her to be like:  the fuck it will.  Let me know if you reach him. 

    22 hours ago, Roseanna said:

    I understand Peggy's mother - of course all mothers would be worried. But if Peggy wants to become a real journalist and later an author, she can't avoid risks.

    I wouldn't carr-my happy ass to nobody's sundown town in 20 and 23, The Year of our Lord.  Alabama's last (known) lynching was in 1981.  Ya'll.  Did you hear me say within my and some of yall's lifetime a black man was hanged?   I know Peggy's got a strategy about keeping moving since finding out about the baby but I wanted Audra to shake her, something.  Sheeeid, this sound like The Talk we have today.   Much deeper than subservience, pride any of that.  First, you gotta make it home.    

    21 hours ago, EdnasEdibles said:

    I truly don't understand why Agnes is so sour all the damn time. She appears to get no joy out of life. I know that she had a rough go with her husband but good God lady. She sneers at everyone.  Why is Rev. Dead Poets Society so horrendously awful in her opinion? Why does she need to cut Ada down every 10 minutes? The only time I saw anything close to pleasure was when she realized she could send threatening letters out to opera fans. 

    I need to either see a flashback explaining why she is the way that she is or have them show a moment of sweetness because otherwise she drives me crazy. 

     

    Nobody knows the trouble she's seen.  Nobody knows her sorrow.  I'd guess more than just a rough go, she's managed to keep the Van Rijns afloat, without a man, not penniless and still living in a fully staffed house on lah de dah street. Quite an accomplishment, for a widow, for a woman at the time.    Everybody kind of benefits from her largesse but doesn't really acknowledge the sacrifice it took for her to make it.   I think it's her litmus so everything else by comparison just isn't a bfd.   I'm biased though, I love Christine Baranski's delivery.

    Carrie definitely argued with the wardrobe department this episode.  Sky blue pleats.  How dreadful.  

    Turner's playing checkers and the game is chess.   Where is she supposed to have come across all this old money high society ways knowledge exactly?

    Where did Mrs. Astor send word to Mr. McAllister that the coven was meeting if she didn't know he was across the street?  

    She/he/you means to catch me out.  I want to figure out how to work this into my next accusatory conversation.   

     

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  18. On 11/5/2023 at 10:41 PM, Jodithgrace said:

    I don’t remember most of the subplots from last season. How did Mrs Russel’s lady’s maid end up married to Mr. Old money? Her name is Turner? Or was, that is.

    Part of me feels bad for Oscar in his quest for a wife. But mostly I don’t want him to succeed because it’s a terribly unfair life for a wife married to a closeted gay man. One of my favorite films is Maurice (starring a very young Hugh Grant) about two Oxford students who fall in love in 1912, and how Hugh Grant’s character ends up in a closeted marriage of convenience, which is very sad. 
     

    I kept thinking that the feckless Mr. Morgan would turn out to be J.P. Morgan, but old JP would already be a big shot by this period,  and not  a drunken youth. Right? Hmmm.  Have to Google. Ok…there was a JPMorgan Jr, but everyone would have known who he was. I

    That's what I thought but his name wasn't a two-parter starting with John.  

    7 hours ago, Roseanna said:

    Why should Adas have her broken? Maybe she is perfectly content to talk with him now and then.

    Or maybe the priest is interested in her also? So far we don't know anything about him, except that he has until now been a mama's boy - suspicious or not?

    Because Ada won't marry without Agnes' approval.  Last season when Ada's old boyfriend showed up, Agnes clocked him from the door.  She was cruel and dismissive, but she was also right.  She got him alone in the parlor on some I understand you've come to ask my sister's hand in marriage....you should know she don't have any cash.   Then we saw the smoke in his coattail. 

    3 hours ago, AntFTW said:

    I think there is an underlying assumption here that racism or a prejudice shows itself in only a few ways; that Armstrong has to outwardly and blatantly show racism in order to be racist.

    My point here is that just because Armstrong is showing her prejudice in a more coded or covert way doesn't mean there has to be an explanation beyond her prejudice. I happen to believe that most racial prejudices occurs covertly, even so in the 1880s. You mention that Armstrong wouldn't want to share a table with Peggy, but I think we learned last season that Armstrong wouldn't even share a whole house with Peggy with walls and doors that create enclosed spaces where she could mind her own business. She tried to get Peggy fired.

    Armstrong hasn't tried to get her other co-workers fired. Armstrong hasn't opened and read her other coworkers letters. Armstrong doesn't seem to be concerned with the other staff supposedly ruining the van Rhijn name. Armstrong doesn't seem to believe the other employees will bring trouble into the house. Armstrong would accept help from her white coworker, and not from Peggy who offered.

    Armstrong is a grinch in general, but she's more of a grinch towards Peggy. I have a difficult time coming up with any other reason why Peggy gets all that extra special attention.

    This.   I was gonna call it garden variety microaggression mixed with flat out jealousy.  I think it's an actual skill set to display this brand of racism so that the subject of your ire is typically the only one to see it accurately.  Yeah Armstrong's mean and ornery and genuinely doesn't like Peggy, but she has no reason to dislike her.  Everyone else thinks she's just "picking on" her, that's why the other servants are all:  girl stop being an asshole, Peggy's just trying to help you.  Armstrong knows that.  If you'd rather take the chance of not finishing your work (in that era) than having a black woman help you finish it, you racist as shit lol.  It just isn't loud.   The coffin closer is she knows that Agnes admires Peggy.  A thing Armstrong will never have, which is a special twist of the knife considering the ingratitude in the dynamic she has with her mother.  

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  19. On 10/30/2023 at 10:43 PM, Pop Tart said:

    I figured she was his daughter but don’t think we actually heard that discussion between them, right? We did see him lurking near her home and she did finally confront him, but can’t remember past that. It sounded like her husband was going to try to get rid of the servant/dad (Watson?) Hope he doesn’t get him fired. 

    Yes, we did.  In one of the lurks, as she's standing on the steps about to go into her foyer, she whirls on him and says something like hey perv, I've peeped you stalking me.  Who are you and what do you want?  He introduces himself with the name we all know him by, then tells her what his name used to be.  Then you see a look of recognition on her face.  She recoils and it gets hazy for me after that.   I don't know if she picks up her floofy petticoats and runs or says something to him.  My memory really wants to say she told him not to ever darken her doorstep again or some gone with the wind shit.  Either way, she knows who is otherwise the dinner scene where she tells her husband that bald guy from dinner with the gravy boat?  Yeah bro, that's my dad.   She is young still, so she presumably would not have recognized his face from memory. 

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  20. 14 hours ago, Iguessnot said:

    I did enjoy seeing Aydin again.

    It's amazing how much Sweet Tea looks like Toya.

    Mariah's husband?  shit, now I have to ff rewatch.   For a hot second I thought you were referring to Phaedra's sons who were somehow frozen in my mind at 18 months and 4 years old.  Ohmigosh they're still so cute! 

    and somehow, not in a good way lol.  

    4 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

    So it looks like Quad is a "friend of" this season. I don't know that it's a good look to show up crashing your ex's fiancée's shower/bachelorette party, but a check is a check, right?

    Dr. Gregory looks like he may not come out of this with his reputation intact.   

    A check is check.  I don't know if he was ever doing his reputation any good but falling in love with self admitted golddiggers 15-20 years his junior is a tough image to improve.  I'll give it to her for confidence though.  I think my booty is formidable.  And I'd like my fiance to describe it similarly.  I doubt very much, that I'd meet his friends for the first time, let alone host them and open the door in coochie cutters.......with tassels.    Say what you will about Quadrafinka Webb, she would have never.   Andplusalso, chafing dishes and a butler would've been involved.  Even at a hoe down.   Teneasha and Keneasha.  Why do people do this?  It's gone be a long season   

    2 hours ago, swankie said:

    I came here to post the same thing.  But it also looks like with each scene her face changes.  She's got a face that changes as you blink. 🤣  It looks like she and Heavenly will be butting heads all season.  We'll see how that plays out.  I'm glad she shut down the Quad talk.  I would also be pissed if people were talking about my fiancé's ex at my engagement party.  It was tacky for them to bring her up. 

    Yeah, it wasn't cool.  They got in their own lil world there for a minute.  But if you don't want chatter about your man's ex at your engagement party, you should probably host it at a venue that's not the house where he lived with her.   

    I'm only here to see the fight that Keneasha and Heavenly inevitably get into and whatever embarrassing thing Phaedra's boyfriend does.  She didn't even finish saying he's from Nigeri....before I said:  in 5...4...3...  Shoutout to Nia Long.

    6 minutes ago, StevieRocks said:

    Were they in a place with real fur? What in the whole wide world? Hellishly is still heinous, fugly, and disgusting. Cannot STAND.

    In hot ass Atlanta.  Yeah Phaedra's a co owner of the place.  I know that wasn't your point.  It's not politically correct, but that's not her priority.  If it don't make dollars, it ain't making cents.  

    Pressuring your baby to go to a school near home cause you finna have trouble with it is concerning. 

     

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  21. 11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

    Maryland marriage license law states you have to get married where you took out the license. PEOPLE magazine reported they took out a license at the Howard County courthouse in August 2022; they live in Howard County.

    But on TV they got married on Frank Sobotka's dock somewhere in Baltimore County (allegedly in September 2022) so unless they had the actual marriage ceremony somewhere in Howard County, the Baltimore County ceremony isn't legal (unless they got married in Howard). Karen openly wondering this makes me wonder if she and other cast members think Robyn has a Brandy style spiritual marriage (and not an actual legal one).

    If there was ever a time for Monique and her binder, this would be the time.

    Mia going to a 1500 sq ft rental with 3 kids is tragic.  I have more space than that.

    Gizelle needs to fix her driveway. It's a hazard.

    I'm took.  ROTFLMAO!!!!!! 

    6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

    I wish I could but that phone was stolen (at a DSW, it is a crazy story and way off topic), I will see if I can get him to resend them to me and I will post.

    I was trying to remember those same things, was the hooker at the Arundel Mills or the downtown casino? Even if he did just pay because he is a nice guy, he did not have to go up to the room. 

    Robyn, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck...it is a duck.

    If those two have truly worked out the cheating issues and decided to move past it all then why the hell does she keep bringing it up, she is not over it but it does make for a good story line and keeps Juan relevant.  I doubt their therapist considers them "healed."

     

     

    I mean it could be a goose, respectfully, their quacks sound similar.  Who's to say what their walks look like, have you ever really paid attention to a goose's walk? You don't even really know IF the goose can walk, you've never even seen his feet up close like that!   Robyn see how dumb words sound when you just spit em out all random and shit? 

    my delivery's gonna sound shitty but I don't mean it:   cause he keeps cheating.   The story she told in her own defense about telling him to get the fuck out?  then, because they know her, her friends were like:  well did he leave? and she let out a giggle and said no.   I didn't know whether to giggle with her or spike-lee-hands-up the whole situation.  All I got is what gets said when you find out the prom queen's been strung out since high school:  pretty girl, damb shame.  

    3 hours ago, HelloDolly79 said:

    I don't normally like seeing HW Spawn on my TV, but can I just say Dean and Dylan were the highlight of the episode. So adorable.

    Handbasket's pulling up so I'll make it quick.   Thankfully they've grown into their faces, cause, ::smoothsskirt:: well.  We didn't know which way this was finna go.  

    2 hours ago, Arynm said:

    I think my favorite part of this episode was Robyn trying to convince herself that the Juan hotel story was so nuts that it just had to be true and then they show us the Ashley story that was even more ridiculous with Michael going to the hotel room and just lying down not sleeping with the lady and she took a picture of him in his underwear. But he didn't do anything with her, honest!!! They had a cut of Robyn's face of disbelief after Ashley spouted that web of lies.

    Oh, Robyn, this is the same story!!  What a dumb, dumb.

    It also made me sad that all 4 of those women had stories so alike. Where are they finding these men?

    On the sales floor baby, ain't no other ones in the back.  All God has, are the ones that are *out*.

     

    OT: is anybody having trouble getting the gifs file to load?  I can't see naan one of em. 

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