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On 4/13/2021 at 11:39 AM, Twopper said:
Well, I am an atty and not a therapist, but I have been around for 67 years and have seen a lot of idiots in my life.
I think Janelle and Kody are both in a panic about the finances, but no one will say anything specific about this "elephant in the room." I am sure Janelle knows she cannot support her "tribe" with her income from Cameo and Strive so it is necessary to keep the show going at least until Savanah graduates at which point Janelle may finally buy one of those tear drop trailers and just go park it near Maddie.
It is ironic that what destroys the family (adding Robyn plus adopting her children) and the catfishery is what has kept the show on the air since the adoption in 2015. The focus has always been on how Meri responded and Kody's revulsion, but it really shook up all of the wives to the point where I think they seriously began questioning their place in the family. Kody is the fault line that runs thru the family, but somehow the blame for most of their problems tend to land in Meri's lap. Unfortunately for her, she is cornered and cannot say that she was devastated by the divorce. Meri's relationship with the other 4 died the day she signed those papers. Unfortunately Kody was too dense to see the shifting sands in his other relationships at the time. He could have made things better with the original wives by divorcing Robyn and making her a spiritual wife. If Robyn complained, it would put the lie to the idea that only spiritual marriage mattered and the legal stuff was just to get the kids adopted. Janelle had been married before, and because she was a convert to the religion, I think she was least affected by the divorce shenanigans. Christine was, I think, almost as crushed as Meri. She was a mostly happy third wife until Robyn. I think it took a combination of the divorce and Aspen's wedding to make Christine feel cheated that she didn't ever have a legal marriage to Kody and that the legal marriage means a lot more than she had always thought.
I seem to have digressed. Back to why Janelle wants communication. I think she is trying to get to a point where they can all talk together about where in Utah they want to move since life in Flagstaff is more expensive than LV. She knows Christine wants to go back to Utah, and now they have no excuse to stay away. Once they are on the same page about going to Utah, she probably envisions at least 2-3 more seasons of moving angst. First they have to agree on a place to go so I can see trips to St George, the SLC area, Provo , and Logan. I mention the last two only because Logan has one of the lowest COLs and is a college town like Flagstaff and Provo seems the most centrally located and is about the same COL as St George. Parowan is even cheaper than St George, and I would laugh my head off if they all ended up there working for Meri at her BandB. Janelle is doing what she thinks will contribute to keeping the show on the air, and if that requires she get off her duff and try to herd a bunch of cats back to Utah, she will do it in place of Kody doing it. Getting everyone to agree to another move has to be a little more subtle than the way he got them to go to Flagstaff. Also they need to move fairly soon, because they are running out of boys to run the Brown Moving Services. Professional movers for four separate families would be expensive.
This is my theory, and I am sticking to it. I also have a theory about dinosaurs if anyone is interested.
I am def interested in the dinosaur theory.
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I just saw that someone said Kody’s best solution would’ve been to isolate from Robyn and her family. Brilliant.
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Furthermore! Meri bullying someone to convince Kody to throw her some love is wincingly reminiscent of Leah trading Rachel some fresh mandrakes for a night with Jacob. What fruit does Robyn like?
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I am vacillating on whether Kody and Meri’s bit this season is fake or naw. If it’s indeed fake, I’m truly appalled at Meri portraying herself this way to a younger generation of ladies.
If Kody doesn’t love Meri, he just doesn’t. It no longer matters how that came to be, whether because of Robyn or the catfish or both, Kody done moved on, child.
I feel like, “Y’all might be tryna trick us, but ya’ll ain’t trickin God”, so why keep bringing it up that they’re technically keeping their (loop-hole) faith. Not buying that for sure.
So I guess I’m back to - they’re faking this. And if they’re making enough money to fund four, I mean three, households, I guess I shouldn’t blame them. BUT if the shows are going to be this painful and uncomfortable and contradictory and socially irresponsible, why not just own the original truth in the first place? I guess because no one saw all this coming. Otherwise...
10 minutes ago, LilyDutch said:TweetQuote from Kodouche: “This isn’t a fight or situation that people should take sides or even give opinions. It is our problem and we will work it out as we should. This happens in marriage, so what you think of me is none of my business.”
- If we are not allowed to take sides or give opinions, then don’t be on a blood reality show!
- We will work it out as we should: Meaning what exactly?? You’re the perfect (best) example of how NOT to work things out!
- This happens in marriage: No it doesn’t. People divorce when they no longer love each other and when the respect has flown out of the window. Oh wait....you already divorced one and are not married to the other two...
Has this idiot ever considered hoe much damage he does to his kids by appearing as this massive douche-bag and trashing their mums on (inter)national tv??
THIS!!!! ❤️
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I’m back. I’m just floored because though I realized polygamous women had to do without their fair share of sex, I didn’t realize polygamous men were turning down so much of it.
1 minute ago, eskimo said:While I agree with this, I also have a feeling the problem here isn't just polygamy. From what Kody has shown us, he'd probably be a pretty horrible monogamist partner as well.
Lol! But it looks like he’s doing his best by Robyn. 😜
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When Kody explained that Meri was not “courting” him, I understood him to mean there was something Meri was failing at rather than that he wanted her to chase him so he could say no. Was he telegraphing that Meri acts like a butt and a brat or something and she must stop doing that before he feels she’s serious? Also, he said Meri was bullying the other wives to convince him to reconcile with her. Polygamy is a swirling vortex of sewage. Kody is resentful and the “wives” are resentful. But when Kody says he is not interested in meeting their needs and they are free to leave, they won’t. They just hang around crying and asking for sex. From Kody. A man who admitted he just pretends to care (about Christine). I’ve never seen women so desperate to live a lie. I’ve never seen women so clueless that the earth is full of other self-respecting monogamist males who don’t have to be asked twice for some lovin. (Hmph! And Kody calls himself a polygamist!)
Or has it all become so twisted and foul that no one leaves because they know it would make the others happy? For once.
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42 minutes ago, Teafortwo said:
I haven't been able to get through all of last week's episode, but I'm starting to think TLC/show producers read here and we're being played. For example, many expressed outrage/concern that Kody comforted Solomon but not Truely when she was crying outside Robyn's house. It may very well be that Kody did comfort Truely and they just didn't show it. Same with the Kody reaction to Mariah leaving earlier than he expected. Maybe he actually knew/talked to her, but producers told him to fake it. I know that Facebook uses strong emotions to increase engagement and thus advertising revenue. It's possible that TLC is creating scenarios through selective editing or "acting" that get viewers similarly to be more engaged/more loyal. This leads to some abandoning the show due to witnessing Kody's and Robyn's bad behavior - but some of us, myself included, end up posting more, re-watching etc. Sure it's snarky and critical but it's still engagement. I'm just starting to suspect that they may not all be as dissatisfied/at odds with each other as we're seeing. I think maybe they are just indifferent or happy with how things are. The show needs more drama than that so we get these "meetings" like the lunch where Janelle questions their commitment to "the principle" and so forth.
So true. I have long believed this. I have thought though that all these marriages except the one to Robyn are over and they are just continuing to scam us in thAt way. Or maybe it’s half and half. 😜
At the end of the day it’s still eye opening to see how polygamy enslaves and abuses women. That’s something they cAn’t hide.
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15 hours ago, Kellyee said:
I drank heavily and forced myself to watch the second half of the episode. Kody thinking he's an alpha male because the dog pees on him when he visits Meri is hysterical. I'm pretty sure Meri trained the dog to pee on Kody so mark him as hers so Robyn's smells it when he goes home.
And Robyn claiming that Kody has PTSD from the catfishing incident is just ridiculous, and offensive to real PTSD sufferers everywhere. I wish someone would just acknowledge that Meri was looking for another man to replace Kody because their marriage sucks and he divorced her anyway, and that it's okay to do that given that Kody has no problem being with 3 other women.
And if Kody can sit in a lawn chair in Meri's driveway, why can't he do that at Janelle's house too??? Also, if Robyn's family and Christine's family are both quarantining and Kody is going back and forth, there is no reason why Truely, Ariella, and Solomon can't play together. Except for Robyn's controllingness and paranoia. Also, Kody's nasty comments about teenagers that were totally meant to be directed at Gabe and Garrison, who are his own kids. I hate these people.
To me, it seemed like Kody was playing us with that schtick about being an alpha male. He was instigating for sure. He’s a toddler.
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6 hours ago, laurakaye said:
BINGO. Those wives who have raised all their kids and now have nothing to do but stare forlornly out the window, waiting for their offspring to return home for a visit? Those are precisely the women that are supposed to now be at Robyn's beck and call to help her with her adorable young un's, the apples of their daddy's eye, the precious spawn that bonded the entire fam'ly together - those kids can't watch themselves! It takes a village of sister-wives with nothing better to occupy those long, empty hours and that's EXACTLY what Robyn thought she was getting when she married into this traveling circus - a posse of built-in babysitters. She must be ticked off that a small portion of her multi-level plan is not working out exactly as she intended.
And Robyn was not so subtly reminding everyone that she is still yOUng and doing yOUng things like raising children like a yOUng woman - not Old with an empty nest. And just in case Kody forgot, she’s 11 years yOUnger than him and still vital and yOUng and relevant for yEArs. She’s a walking fountain of yOUth.
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4 hours ago, itsadryheat said:
Was Robyn always the dark queen or did she grow into that role?
I ask because her early years showed someone with a little spirit, smiled, wanted to be part of the "team". (I guess you could say this about all of them to an extent.) So was she always an opportunist, and her Lehi personality a cover to be unleashed when the time was right, emboldened by Kody's blind devotion.
For someone that gets what she wants, she sure does not look happy or healthy. Season after season she touted how important her sister wives relationships are to her.
Currently, her dour mug and dead attitude exudes Let Them Eat Cake.
I agree with your analysis of Robyn’s demeanor at first.
She truly may have gained her eventual confidence from Kody’s unconditional, passionate love for her. Like the love of a desert King, heady! 😜
Robyn had all the support she needed in her husband, so why continue to take crap from the serfs, who were situationally weak and unfit to rule after years of unresolved resentment, constant loss, unrelenting inequality, and bad taste in men. As Kody’s second in command, Robyn just naturally began treating the others the way Kody did. They deserved no better.
And, after all, they did receive magnanimous crumbs from her charger.
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On 3/22/2021 at 4:53 PM, ginger90 said:
Meri calls people haters when she doesn’t want to acknowledge truth in what they say. I’m sure she gets some nasty messages, but does she know the difference?
I detest the misuse of the word “hater”.
This.
Meri says we all have our own truth. Can truth be truth if it is malleable and changeable and adaptable to our personal feelings? Someone has to be wrong sometimes in the face of truth - and this time it’s Meri.-
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21 hours ago, itsadryheat said:
Thanks for bringing this up LK. I too was gobsmacked by the number of "collectibles" hoarded by frugal Robyn. Not a space to be seen. The massive amount loaded into those not cheap cabinets represent more of a problem than a hobby. Who even looks at those things. This from the woman who never had a crib for her first three kids. Kody and Robyn are HORRIBLE with money. Pretty obvious they believe this gravy train will chug along for a spiritual eternity.
Blown away with that house. Like Kody would stay in Janelle's affordable housing with kids who do not "worship" him. I think Gabe should narrate the rest of the episodes.
Great points. I have a feeling Kody’s very own man cave is housed at Robyn’s. It has to be annoying visiting the lesser accommodations of Janelle and Christine - kind of like staying at hotels while traveling for work. Maybe it’s exactly the same. I don’t believe Janelle asked Kody to stay away though. I believe that decision was made along the same lines as Kody and Meri’s divorce. I keep wondering if the original marriages ALL busted up awhile back and Kody is just doing visitation with his remaining children, which would be one reason (among many) he and Robyn got the large house while J & C... did not.
But, y’all, if that’s what it looks like to win Kody all to yourself...
Imagine having all those other kids, even the grown ones, constantly maneuvering in and out looking for their daddy time, only now without the help of the other “wives”. Then one would have to watch those “wives” traveling and relaxing on their kid-free days. This sounds so bad, I’ve almost talked myself out of believing Robyn would ever let this happen.
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21 minutes ago, Just Wondering said:
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When Kody sat Robyn’s daughters down to announce the decriminalization of polygamy, I wondered how Kody would feel if one of them married a man who embraced polygamy but not the religious/faith aspects. Because those fellows would be lining up too.
Announce thAt to Aurora and Breana, Kody.-
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1 hour ago, Grifter Lives said:
Exactly! The only two families that were shown celebrating were the families with many daughters who could be potential sister wives. We didn't see Janelle share the news with her children. (All her older children have already flatly rejected any possibility of polygamous marriages.) Yet, Janelle the convert was the one who explained that the Mormons banned polygamy in 1890 to gain statehood.
Her math is wrong in her statement, "For 150 years, we've been felons." First, there are 130 years between 2020 and 1890. Second, the law that defined polygamy as "criminally injurious conduct" was on the books for 85 years. Third, the Browns themselves have never been felons. Utah opened an investigation into their family that it never pursued before closing it.
Even dumber than Janelle's bad math were Robyn's describing the news as "fun and exciting," and Kody's chest-pounding about polygamous marriage licenses (with Robyn, loudly cheering him on). They're how Janelle justifies repeatedly that she's the logical, rational one.
Kody in the 2017 march:
Kody declaring himself a lover makes me think of how many nights his ladies went without a lover over the years. These folks practice polygamy according to the Bible, yet in Ecclesiastes it says, “Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone?” The only Biblical examples Kody and crew point to are the ones where the wives battle, the kids battle, and Jacob sends two of his least favorite wives first and second in a caravan going toward a possibly angry brother, and sends his favorite at the back of the caravan where she is safest. This should be enough to send every woman screaming into the void - from Kody’s beliefs.
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Basically, Robyn says (in a bonus scene from the More to Love Basement Wife episode) that society’s refusal to accept polygamy is the primary reason a sister wife like Christine feels like a second class citizen, or whatever. Living in a basement and taking primary care of all of Kody’s children while he enjoys superior compartments above stairs is apparently only the secondary reason a lady feels like a second class citizen, or whatever. As if Christine or any third wife would be treated more respectfully because of a marriage certificate. Humans are going to be humans.
Granted, all family members would have had access to health insurance, eradicating those payments for unexpected medical bills, but everything else would’ve evened out accordingly when Christine no longer had access to the bonus of welfare.-
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8 hours ago, laurakaye said:
grown-up Araibleola.
22 hours ago, Sofa Sloth said:little Areola
19 hours ago, HighlandWarriorGrl said:little Areolabela
LOLing at these variations.Meri’s doing it a little too brown with all that sweeping, flowery effusiveness about little Arebola.
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This toilet paper tutorial!
Next week on TLC’s Sisterwives:
Christine: For years Kody wouldn’t shit in my toilet.
Meri: I don’t care where Kody shits.Robyn: Kody, please shit at Christine’s.
Janelle: I’ve had to shit in basements with no windOws, ChrISTINE.”
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1 hour ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:
I believe she went to visit one of her sisters who had IVF. Could be it is something that runs in the family.
And when ur hubby has other needs to meet, there may not be enough opportunities to conceive.
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28 minutes ago, deirdra said:
It is more than a hint. Warren Jeffs' group and their Canadian Blackmore friends have been trafficking underage teen girls across the border to provide some new genetic material for decades.
100 % agreed. But Kody and crew reject the notion that they are anything like these other sects. I remember Christine not “knowing men could be such bastards”. The plyg lites either ignore the fact that all polygamy groups originate from the same fetid source or they just hope to trick the women into believing they gave full consent - even though there’s no way to give true consent when one is blind and deceived from the start.
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ALSO, all this queen wife/basement wife lingo gives the distinct impression that these men are not expected to be solvent enough to provide additional homes or an equitable plyg home before taking on extra ladies. How did Kody’s (male) elders okay him housing two or three ladies in a trailer? The term basement wife suggests (male) elders all over this practice are sanctioning unions where bankruptcy and welfare are possible outcomes. There’s something disturbing about a man being allowed to just shove a whole woman somewhere/anywhere and get to work on her with no financial (or otherwise) expectations on himself. There’s a hint of sex trafficking in here and I’m not ashamed to be so dramatic.
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When Christine says she didn’t stick up for her own kids like she did for Janelle’s, does she mean only during the day or do we assume this means all around and Kody didn’t either?
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if Robyn is so great at helping out the other relationships, why have two of them steadily gone downhill? And if Robyn is always having to correct Kody’s selfish, inconsiderate behavior to the other wives, why does she still like him? Also, if she keeps staying and keeps liking Kody, she has to think the trouble is someone else’s fault.
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Proponents of the Principle actually let you knOw that in order to be transformed, you are expected to put others first and to suffer. Expectedly, there are those who will always avoid suffering no matter the edict or feel they’ve suffered enough, so it’s someone else’s turn, but basically them’s the rules. So if Christine can’t take the suffering, she needs to admit The Principle is a lie.
If she hasn’t already. At times I wonder if this family came to that conclusion long ago and are now acting out the process for the cameras.-
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S15.E10: Polygamy Hell
in Sister Wives
Wait, wait, wait. It’s the “wives” and not Kody who are working overtime to keep all this going??
Kody isn’t privately wooing them with grand promises or instilling hope with persuasive compliments, but they are demanding he continue?? He tells them he’s in hell and it’s all their fault, but they beg to remain?? Meri especially reminding him that he pinkie swore?? To what? Treat them like tramps for all eternity? And they don’t want it to end??