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3 hours ago, Kyanight said:
What do you mean "behave like polygamists"? Wives either get along or they don't - just like everyone who lives in the same household.
When it comes to the Browns, they have a really strange dynamic I have never seen before. Either they downplay their religion for the TV viewers or their beliefs have been set aside for the most part. Either they believe in the religious reasons for plural marriage or they don't - or else it was convenient to pick and choose WHICH beliefs so that Kody could have multiple wives but not live the life. The wives don't act like any polygamist wives I have ever seen. Kody hasn't really set himself up as the head of this household - it seems like the wives have more say about any decisions than he does... and although YES that is typical of many married couples today, polygamist families traditionally are very patriarchal. I've seen a dozen people or more say this here on the forum and it's true - it's more like Kody and his girlfriends. The wives tell Kody what they will and won't do - it just doesn't happen normally. (If you can call this lifestyle normal.) Wives might leave - look at April Briney - and they might be unhappy, but they don't rule the roost.
I mean that Kody’s “wives” lived in one household until they were monetarily able to do otherwise. Now, living apart seems preferable to them and they feel abused by the suggestion that they return to a house that will even allow them to run their own kitchens and sneak through separate doors. I see that this is contrary to what the Principle requires, but my larger point is that the women have lived apart and found it superior. I think that is quite human and truer to the feminine nature. IMHO as always.
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It’s interesting that when polygamous “wives” aren’t absolutely forced by necessity to behave like polygamists, they behave like monogamists.
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“I've never seen Meri as upset as during the recent TH's on the couch with the others.... she really looked like she'd like to smash Janelle in the face as Janelle playfully flirted with Kody.”
Exactly!!!! She looked positively angry.
But I suspect that Meri and Kody’s divorce was a true split. I think Meri responded to “Sam” because she was free to do as she pleased - as long as she was discreet. I think TLC scavenges their plots from online forums and social media, so this show has basically become a weekly sitcom where Kody and Meri are doing what has to be done, like Lucy and Desi on the last years of I Love Lucy. Only not as classic. I think the somber new intro plays into this trickery. And now they have Kody quoting his dissenters and pretending to want a big house so they can all live the Principle as it was intended. TLC and the Brown LLC are officially throwing us bones.
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Wondering why Meri thought it okay to discuss her grievances at what was slated to be a light, fun ladies’ luncheon. If this is typical, it’s no wonder they all looked tense beforehand. Unless of course, TLC told them upfront. Either way, rude!
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Is it possible that Kody first met with Nathan about the castle because he wanted to be able to tell the ladies that a minister felt it was a good move? Could this be considered spiritual abuse?
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2 hours ago, ginger90 said:
It’s a strange post all around.
Yes. It’s always nice to make it about yourself when posting birthday wishes to others.
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3 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:
3 years of ripping women off. I'd really like to hear the stories of women who signed up under her downline. Of course, I'm sure they blame themselves for their failure.
And Lularoe would too.
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On 1/6/2020 at 12:54 PM, SunnyBeBe said:
I noticed the change in the intro too. It's sort of like, "we aren't in Kansas anymore." lol
Do they still take viewer questions in the tell all? I can't recall. I'd like for them to get questioned about why they couldn't have gotten closer together if they conserved more. Okay. Can someone help me on bedroom needs. I think I did this long ago, but, things may have changed by now. How many bedrooms did they ACTUALLY end up with?
Christine's minor children or those still at home are: Truly, Ysabel, Gwendyln, and Paedon? So, they could manage with 1 or two bedrooms for them and then one for Christine and Kody. A 3 bedroom would have been fine, right?
Janelle's minor or at home children: Gabriel and Savannah. 3 bedrooms would be fine.
Robyn's minor or at home children: Dayton, Aurora, Breanna, Solomon and Ariella. 4 bedrooms fine. ( A young man Dayton's age should have own room, imo. )
Meri has no minor children at home, but, would need a spare room for office/guest. So, 2-3 bedrooms. If times were hard, I would suggested that I get a studio (with garage space for my products) to conserve, since, I would be in NV and Utah (B&B) on business so often.
And didn’t Kody say it was completely normal for plyg children to share rooms?
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I wonder if Janelle knows the correct spelling of her sister-daughter’s name:
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I wonder if Kody asked the conductor to ring the bell and announce that Kody has four “wives”.
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On 12/24/2019 at 2:32 PM, DakotaJustice said:
I count 7 stockings. I wonder who didn't get one? Kody?
That is an excellent point. How do they work out Kody’s rotation on Christmas Day??
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Ah ha. The video above is the reason Kody prefers Robyn over the others. There is an obvious difference in the maturity levels of Kody’s ladies. One of the many drawbacks of polygamy is that someone new is always going to expose or highlight the previously undetected or overlooked flaws of the originals - especially if the originals were unavoidably halted in their natural emotional development due to the inherent stresses and distractions of polygamy. These ladies were sitting ducks when Robyn came along. And really, all Robyn had to do was not be completely nuts.
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I’m wondering if all that business about Meri’s house was just contrived to add suspense to an otherwise boring processs. Mary had to know she wasn’t getting in by Christmas.
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Is Kody now smaller than his wife and his girlfriends?
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I think true self-acceptance would favor a warm, genuine smile, not a prescribed, trending facial pose. I wonder if Mariah realizes what her frantic search for healing reveals about the dynamics of her upbringing. Her pain seems genuine because she returns to it continually, even in the midst of seeming personal abundance. It appears her raising was beyond the garden-variety familial dysfunction. She spent her birthday in tears. Kody (and maybe a couple of the other adults) can’t be thrilled with her open emotional wrestlings on social media, which only spotlight uncomfortable realities. Maybe Mariah deserves a good many special coffees and avocado toasts. I often consider that were it not for the reality show, she might’ve been the poster child for Mormon polygamy - as one of her sister’s sister wives. Her current situation seems preferable since it at least allows her the distance and the freedom and the funds and the time to search for actual Truth at some point. I hope/pray she has an actual chance.
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A bit off topic, but aren’t these folks “living this lifestyle” according to their religious faith? Why then do they never give any shoutouts to God and junk? Or do they?
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I get what Mariah is saying about being grateful that your body parts work properly and about being thankful that we get to experience the world through those parts, but let’s not pretend that after all is said and done she has not arranged this bathing suit photo to promote what she feels most comfortable displaying - and concealing.
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On 5/20/2019 at 5:36 AM, ginger90 said:
Robyn has to be there. Who else would’ve fiendishly placed Janelle and Meri on the opposite ends as visual anchors?
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Just saw that HGTV produced an episode of a series called House Full of Spouses with the Dargers. Wonder if Kody is angling to be on this show??
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15 hours ago, monagatuna said:
I agree with MarysWetBar that Janelle would lose weight if she unloaded Kody, but not only for the reasons listed. She'd be forced out of her comfort zone of laziness and (probable) depression and would actually go and enjoy life rather than just parking it on the couch and waiting for the next tell-all, where she'll have to get up and park it on a different couch.
With the extra weight, Janelle may be the lady least likely to leave this situation. As it stands, she has guaranteed companionship at least twice a month. But if she left, she might feel required to drop some weight before entering the dating pool, which is a fairly common human attitude, I believe. In other words, Kody really has no choice in the matter whereas the alternative is a big unknown. Btw, I am eating tons of ice cream as I write this, so...
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2 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:
I agree and that's why I have a hard time feeling much sympathy for Meri
When Christine... who in my opinion is a kind hearted and sort of simple person went to Meri in distress over her relationship with Kody... Meri acted like a stone cold bitch.
She sat in her bed enjoying Christine's pain, looking down her nose and telling Christine she better suck it up and be nicer.
Christine had to endure a pregnancy and birth while Kody pranced around on Cloud 9 with Robyn his sexy little girlfriend...then she sat at home with a brand new baby while Kootie sucked face and honeymooned with his bride.
Meri facilitated the entire thing and the timing of it KNOWING damn well that Christine was pregnant.
Meri is great at wiping eye boogers and bawling when it's HER heart breaking but she didn't give 2 shits about Christine or what the courtship at that particular time would do to Christine... . I mean really..think about that.... It's horrible. 😢
Sorry, no sympathy for Meri and her catfish BS... She brought that on herself.... Once again it was Meri looking out for Meri and it backfired and bit her in the ass.
Be careful how you treat others, karma is a bitch named Robyn
Exactly. But I also wonder how Meri felt while Kody was hoovering around with Christine before her entrance to the “marriage”. Meri was the last person Christine should’ve expected to validate her feelings.
Knowing that Meri had to watch these women angling for positions in her husband’s willing bed makes me wonder why I expected her to behave rationally at all. I get that she signed up for it, was raised in it, but is anyone really equipped to handle this situation with grace. It appears that one shatters off in a hundred directions and just pieces together what one can find of the leavings. What a mess.
I also believe Kody chose the obviously-intrigued Janelle, but had her make the formal request required in their sect. Kody was probably not exactly bowled over by Janelle (or Meri either really), but he could generously afford to give the gift of himself to these charitable causes, what with the prospect of plenty more wives in the future. I think the church and life itself put the kibosh on those dreams.
Stealthy as I think Robyn is, I am realizing this is just how this game is played. These ladies adopt the only available roles and humanness takes it from there. What. A. Mess.
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These ladies explained that it’s creepy for a man to pursue more women, yet the whole point of polygyny is for a man to have more women - since it it his natural inclination. So to legitimize this practice the wives pretend their husbands are not desirous of other women until she finds him one?
It seems that the only way to remain consistent is to allow the men to pursue as many women as they want. If it’s not wrong, it’s not wrong and if it’s holy then who dares put a cap on it? Besides, will four lovers cause a man to never look aside again? Not according to their own principle, which means these men are expected to exert some form of ongoing self-denial anyway.
Kody once referred to a man with ten wives as a “jack wagon”. He was admitting that having ten women was inappropriate. Where’s the line then and who drew it?
Because, really, if it’s better for a man to be faithful to a very small number of women (when he naturally wants lots more) then it’s best to be faithful to one.
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Robyn being surprised Kody can’t commit to just one home. On a show about polygyny?
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It appears one of the fruits of The Principle is enmeshment.
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S11.E04: Four Wives, One House
in Sister Wives
Especially since most of their polygamous counterparts must be living together. And if they believe God is commanding this lifestyle in order to teach women something, why are they seeking to avoid it?