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They're all despicable people, but Joy could be the worst. Are we supposed to feel sympathetic towards her? Because she's just terrible. I kindof figured the ending out, didn't see Savannah/Lindsey being Harry's sister though. That kindof seemed like a rushed storyline. Probably since the dog "found" the jacket, they took that into consideration

I was thinking it was Joy disguised as Stan hauling random junk, in an effort to frame him for her murder. I'll watch the last 2 eps tonight but my prediction is that Joy pulled a Gone Girl and disappeared herself and ran away with Savannah (not in a romantic way, but because she thinks Savannah is the only one who cares about her). Interesting to see how it resolves.

Dad was paranoid and that's not easy to live with and who knows, maybe mom bought into it too. He is similar to my dad, all about prepping and a survivalist lifestyle, fear of "them" and conspiracy minded. It's hard on a kid, especially moving away from everything to live in anxiety and paranoia. It really takes its toll (ask how I know, lol). I'm guessing it was probably an accident that is just assumed to be murder (and of course people in these shows don't communicate). Or it was a crime of passion and the kid just snapped from the stress of it all. We'll see, I really hope they don't go the abuse route, I think mental illness/paranoia/delusions is enough.

Oh he's gorgeous! Doesn't look old or bad in any way, but he looks in his forties. I think I was just taken aback because I just turned 37 and don't like the idea that he's younger than me, lol!

It was OK. Some terrible writing in places. Some rough acting in places. We're supposed to believe he's 36? Justin Hartley is a good looking guy, but he looks his 47 years. I'm slightly intrigued, but no character to this point is interesting or likeable yet. I might give it another episode or two, maybe once it gets its stride and figures itself out a bit, this show could be really good.

Just a vent I used to really love this show. I've had a stillborn baby, so I was sucked in from the pilot. I've been able to relate to some aspect of each of the big 3, I've loved many of the other characters. Seasons 1-2 were great, season 3 in Vietnam got dull, season 4 was great. Season 5 was a mess. It was either outlandish (Laurel's resurrection) or just filler. The only thing that moved the plot forward really was the last 3 minutes of the finale. I've spent 5 years with these characters, sometimes loving them sometimes hating them, always crying with them, but I'm ready for it to end. I'm afraid S6 will be more outlandish stories or filler until the finale wraps everything up in a messy bow. I feel this show has gone way downhill and is just laughable at this point. It just makes me sad.

Yep, Beth is scared of Tess. She indulges her because she's afraid to offend her. Whether a child (and Tess is supposed to be 12!) is straight, gay, a they, etc they need boundaries and discipline. Beth's more concerned with Tess seeing her as woke, not with parenting her, and Tess knows it too.

If Kevin is giving a speech, is he best man? Why would Kevin be that dude's best man?

Damn, they did Toby dirty.

Yeah, shouldn't newlywed game style questions be more like "who leaves their socks on the bedroom floor?" or "who's more likely to get a speeding ticket?"? It just seemed too much for a silly bachelorette game.

Ok, my antenna was a little fuzzy at some points, I missed that Kevin chartered a plane for the group. It was bugging me the whole episode, how stressed Toby was about the job thing, yet he still flew out there. Makes a lot more sense now, thanks!

Some more thoughts: what are the women going to do with their paintings of the naked model? Haha We know Kate and Toby don't move to SF, we see the montage of Jack growing up and creating music in their garage. Maybe he works remotely or commutes, and years of that causes their marriage to fall apart? Maybe he stays in LA. How did Toby and Kate afford a cross country flight for a the bachelor party as well as Kate throwing the bachelorette party?

I agree. Madison is the common denominator here, what's the deal? For the penultimate episode this was pretty dull. More tension, more doubts and apprehension. More of the same. Nothing progressed the story, maybe the flashback snippet of Rebecca and Miguel but otherwise, I could've not seen the episode and not missed anything. This used to be my favorite show, now I'm just glad there's only one season left.

She was upstairs listening, taking notes for Beth. Jk! I thought she'd went with the girls, but she didn't walk in with them, so idk.

Some samples, sure, but the packages of diapers and wipes, etc are charged (even if insurance pays for it), at least I always have been.

Yep. All those diapers and baby shampoos Jack and Rebecca took home were charged to them too. They and the nurse acted like it was free treasure, ha! Nope, plus it's marked up too.

At least Kevin's was a dream. Randall's experience was... a hallucination... I guess? He was awake right? I still don't get what it was. Kate saw Jack during her ivf, but again, anesthesia. Yeah, it's weird they're all seeing ghosts.

This just made me wonder: what if Kate and Toby had been chosen by a black birth mother? Would Randall have discouraged the adoption and been upset if they went through with it? Maybe he'd have been the uncle who could help the baby understand who they are as they grow up? That's probably not something the show wanted to deal with.

She was wearing white (patterned) pants too. No post partum mom wears white pants!

Are you suggesting she didn't ask for an epidural, they just gave her one automatically? Or are you comparing epidurals to rape? If she was getting an epidural she asked for it and signed paperwork consenting to it.

I guess they'd be taking Hailey home within a few hours of her birth and they didn't want to worry about waking Jack at whatever time that may be, but both wanted that experience? I can't think of any other reason they did that.

Jack was irritating. Let your wife complain a little, she's a fulltime mom, taking care of the kids (and him) is what her life revolves around. He should've let her blow off some steam and be excited about having alone time with him. She'd have been done in 5 minutes and onto their weekend. And if I kept all my kids' pictures and art, I'd be surrounded in paper and glitter, it's ok to let some of it go, especially if its waterlogged.

I've always wanted to see this too. I've had a stillborn baby, she was a singleton, but her following sister and brothers talk about her and express sadness over not having her with us. I imagine losing your triplet (possibly Kevin's identical twin) would be an extra layer to the conversation. Oftentimes people can have survivor's guilt, even from what happened in the womb, I could see it being a lot for all the big 3 to uncover in therapy

Yes, he was in the hospital, but I don't really consider that being there for their birth since he was in another room. It wasn't his choice though. I guess it's just different definitions.

I thought she'd accidentally clicked on a V not paying attention to the actual airport. I'd assume VCV was Vancouver at first blush while in a tizzy; it probably had nothing to do with geography. Plus, the dementia probably isn't helpful.