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5 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
and two, his mother died young. What's the point?
Yes, I think it would be a depressing story. Show us this great love story and then she dies.
And then their daughter is nearly raped and definitely assaulted. And their son is beaten within an inch of his life and flogged twice, which leads to his father's death. So yeah...think I'll pass on this one. Feel like the ending of Atonement would be more joyful than this.
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22 minutes ago, ch1 said:
I personally have zero interest in the love story of Jaime’s parents. I mean if you are going the prequel route (and completely unwritten one) how about exploring how the hell people time travel?
1,000% this. We know how Jamie’s parents got together. How about some info on Claire and how/why she can time travel?
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On 7/18/2022 at 3:19 PM, gingerella said:
his sense of Scottish pride and honor.
Side note - I'm reading "Born Fighting" which is a book about the Scots Irish and how their way of life and settling of America impacts our culture today. As an Outlander fan, it is freaking fascinating, and so often, I catch myself nodding my head and picturing Jamie Fraser.
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On 7/17/2022 at 3:10 PM, Sheikh Yerbouti said:
I'm going into the finale still unspoiled about the story ahead.
So jealous. Those first time Outlander feels can really run the gamut of emotions.
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On 7/13/2022 at 1:02 AM, gingerella said:
shit don't make sense!
Spat water all over the screen!
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On 6/20/2022 at 4:49 PM, ruby24 said:
For the most part. I finally got used to William in this one,
Yeah, that was a pleasant surprise for me, because I've never been a William fan. And even more amazing - I actually enjoyed his interactions with Bree the most, and I'm absolutely not a Bree fan.
On 6/20/2022 at 4:49 PM, ruby24 said:I can't bring myself to care about Roger and Brianna anymore.
They are so blah and booooooooooring.
On 6/21/2022 at 9:39 AM, Athena said:He seems impulsive and bad communication more than anything. I preferred Roger when he was a historian or a singing one.
100% this.
On 6/20/2022 at 4:49 PM, ruby24 said:I feel like nothing happened to Claire in this entire book. Did she ever even leave the Ridge? I don't think she did.
This is maybe my Chief complaint of the whole thing. She is the main character, and what does she actually do. Even the big thing she did do - heal people with her sudden blue light magic - was so poorly written that I honestly didn't realize what was happening or if it really happened.
On 6/20/2022 at 4:49 PM, ruby24 said:I was lost at all allusions to Lord John's spinoff books. Haven't read them, had no idea about any of it.
Hated this. I haven't read them either, nor do I want to and nor do I think I should need to to make sure I understand what is going on. Those are spinoffs for a reason. Bree did tell Lord John about being a time traveler, and then Claire confirmed when she and LJG were married.
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On 5/2/2022 at 2:01 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:
I would have enjoyed the shootout had there been more casualties.
Is it weird that I wanted that, too? Jamie is supposed to be an excellent shot. Take someone out Mac Dubh!
On 5/2/2022 at 3:21 PM, Cdh20 said:Did Jamie figure out that Tom is in love with Claire when he saw him staring at her?
Definitely. I think it all clicked for him there.
On 5/3/2022 at 6:21 AM, Haleth said:I'm frustrated the Christie storyline will carry over to next season.
Me too. I wish all of this had been more of a minor plot point on the way to the Revolution. I think the Bugs and the gold is a more compelling storyline from Book 6.
On 5/3/2022 at 7:58 PM, WatchrTina said:I hate, hate, HATE the Christie storyline and the only thing I hate MORE is that creepy guy in the tricorn hat (I can't be bothered to remember his name) and his bullshit "committee of safety."
110% agree.
13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:I dinna recall if Wee Ian saved them or if Jamie and Claire needed saving
Yes. Ian trails Jamie and Claire after Brown takes them. The scene in the bushes with Jamie and Ian is from the book. When Brown breaks J&C apart, Ian goes with Jamie, who yells at Ian to follow Claire. Jamie and Ian regroup and start tracking Claire, who ends up in a jail cell with a petty thief, she delivers a baby, and tries to befriend the warden's drunkard wife. The Governor's aid comes to the jail looking for a midwife and takes Claire to the Governor's mansion to tend to the Governor's wife. While she's there, she becomes his secretary. When things start to turn politically for him, he takes her to a ship offshore. As they are leaving for the ship, Jamie sees her.
She never actually has a trial. Tom Christie comes to the ship to confess, and eventually Jamie comes to the ship to get Claire.
It's all a whirlwind and more than a little eyeroll inducing, so I hope we get a condensed version of that nonsense in Season 7.
Agree with a point in the Show only thread that it would have been so good if Claire heard Donner whistling in the jail cell and then the show fades to black. What was the point of showing him earlier in the season to do nothing with it, especially something so obvious?
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Here we are. Another Droughtlander, and I think it'll be ok. A modicum of faith has been restored to me after watching last night's episode, which felt like a return to a better form.
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- The shootout at the "OG-Big House" was exciting. Like on the edge of my seat exciting. Badass Claire is perhaps my favorite Claire. There you are, honey. I missed you, Badass Claire! When she comes blazing out of the breezeway packing musket heat - Yes, Girl!! Shoot that baddie in the guts!
- Loved the Fraser arsenal in the basement. When you know what the future holds, you get yourself prepared. Smart move.
- I've seen it criticized a bit, but I actually loved the fireside conversation regarding Jamie's Nine Lives. I was so pleased to see that brought into the show. The broken glass gave a lovely shimmer to the scene. Claire telling Jamie that she was scared was so so so good.
- Sam nailed Jamie this week. Finally, that's my JAMMF. Playing with Claire's hair by the fire, rubbing her sore knuckles, shooting Brown's hat out of his hands, that's Jamie Fraser.
- Tom Christie, Welcome to "Not a Total Asshat" territory. This actor, the way he plays him, damn. That look he gave Claire while they were sitting on the hill, double damn. Jamie catching that look, OH DAMN! Loved the whole exchange.
- Ian. I love this character and this actor. He has been such a bright spot all season. The beach rescue was amazing and so unexpected. I initially thought the Show was condensing storylines and Jamie would get on the ship and end up in Scotland, but the flying arrows and the arrival of Bird was so awesome that I sat up and cheered. What a great addition! The shot through the hand was incredible!
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- The Traveling Mackenzies. Snooooooooooooze. The sex scene was something the world just didn't need right now. Like, not at all. Or ever. I was sad to see the mole thing happen without Jamie and Claire. Claire is the one who told Roger that those things are hereditary, and it created such a wholesome family moment for all of them. I missed that here, though I did love Jemmy talking to the baby. Makes me feel like the show is setting up their super sibling powers.
- The Fisher Folk. This is a stupid plot from DG. These people suck and they need to go away. I want Arch to walk around and put eviction notices on their shitty cabins. And the Ardsmuir guys. Yeah, thanks for showing up. Like me walking into a meeting that wasn't on my calendar - late and confused.
- There was so much action and is was really exciting, but then we saw J&C ride bounce around in a wagon for a looooong time. Some of that could have been condensed into not as many stops. Sometimes, more show is just more show. I appreciate the additional minutes as long as it goes somewhere. If we had removed the MacKenzies or some wagon scenes, could we have gotten closer to a resolution to Claire's situation?
- Claire in a jail cell. This is where it ends? Really?
On 5/1/2022 at 12:30 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:nd ENOUGH with the “burrrrn the witch!” Bullshite. We had enough of that in season one. THESE Arseholes have land and homes because of Jamie. And so sick of Malva as being portrayed as some innocent and puir waif.
Me too. This is so tired. Even the old lady's lines were recycled from Season 1.
22 hours ago, Quickbeam said:I really did not need the Roger/Bree sex scene mostly because Sophie is such a terrible actor. It’s a casting thing I just can’t move beyond.
Same. Everyone else is so good. Even last night, Oakes was so good. I can't make peace with the Bree casting, and I feel really bad about it.
3 hours ago, cardigirl said:I believe that Bree was talking about Concord and Boston, correct?
Yes, I think. She was talking about the Battle of Lexington and Concord.
2 hours ago, McKavity said:Maybe it’s my disappointment after reading Bees, but I’ve found this season tedious.
Yes, I think that's where I am, too. I was so disappointed after reading Bees. I embarrassingly moped around for days when I finished it. There's bad DG, and we can all fume about it and move on, but I couldn't move on from Bees for a long time. I even tried to read it again about a month ago, and I just couldn't. I feel like my feelings for Bees have skewed my impressions of this season a bit.
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4 hours ago, gingerella said:
Eloquently put...
It's like you read my post in the BookTalk thread (and I know you didn't because spoilers and such). We are so aligned in our feels.
4 hours ago, gingerella said:who are all supposed to love Claire sooooooo much, why the fuck are they not circling the proverbial wagons round her and being more attentive as it is painfully obvious she is struggling mightily?
PAH-REACH!
4 hours ago, gingerella said:his show is predicated on the concept that time travel as a reality.
Wait, what? This is a time-travel show?!?!
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16 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
I also want tae see Jamie shootin' off arrogant man-boy Willie's hat.
We like the same things.
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11 hours ago, WatchrTina said:
Let me say first thatI love this book series. LOVE it. But every now and then Diana takes us down a dreary plot line that I just cannot WAIT to be over. The whole damned, dysfunctional, toxic "Christie Family Saga" is the worst example of that phenomenon. I can't wait until it is over.
Same, girl. Same.
11 hours ago, WatchrTina said:Thank goodness we have the serenity and joy of the AMERICAN REVOLUTION to look forward to
I'm really excited for the Revolution bits in the next two books. I hope we get to them! Show me the chaos of the Ticonderoga evacuation. Let me see Ian go at it with an Abenaki at Monmouth. Let's do this!
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On 4/26/2022 at 10:39 AM, rxpert14 said:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm seeing a stark change in how Jamie's emotions are portrayed in seasons 5 and 6, and now that I think about it, it really goes back to the latter half of season 3.
First, I agree with and appreciate your entire post. You conveyed what I've been feeling so well, so thanks! I agree, I feel like it is a striking change and it has to be a choice that was made to show a wiser Jamie.
On 4/26/2022 at 10:39 AM, rxpert14 said:But... it's not consistent with previous moments of high emotion, like Murtagh's death or the First Wife fight with Claire.
Yes! Spot on. Or even him frantically running to light the Fiery Cross in Journeycake.
On 4/26/2022 at 10:39 AM, rxpert14 said:In 512 and these past 2 episodes I've expected utter devastation from Jamie, since these events directly involved Claire. Showing heightened emotion doen't have to be melodramatic with a raised voice or flailing arms or wailing. In 606, it could have been demonstrated by a disheveled appearance from keeping a bedside vigil (more facial stubble, undereye circles from lack of sleep, untied stock or waistcoat, strands of hair escaping its ribbon, etc) but instead he was dressed impeccably with no hair out of place the entire episode. The monotone of his voice in 512 when he was preparing to rescue Claire from the Browns, the discussion with Claire in the barn, and now Claire's breakdown....Jamie seemed so emotionally distant (for lack of a better word). At the end of Claire's breakdown, I just wanted to give the woman a bone-crushing hug and not a hug that looks like I don't want to get my shirt wet from her tears.
Yes, YES, and YASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! Messy Jamie is the best Jamie, both physically and emotionally.
On 4/26/2022 at 11:14 AM, cardigirl said:About the tea, Claire even says something that was almost a direct quote from the ad on my social media, I think.
Thank you! I'm passionate about my OL. I tend to get overly fiery about things, it's just who I am. I'm a little bit Claire. And also, since we typed about tea on Tuesday, every ad on my social media is from the Art of Tea. Every. Single. Ad.
On 4/26/2022 at 1:21 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:And the way Sam was directed, just demonstrated that Jamie was too busy with aught else to know what was going on with his own wife.
Hear hear!
On 4/26/2022 at 1:21 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:It's been almost five years, but sure, they're quick to blame Claire for that besom Malva's murder. Someone who's only been there a few months, if that.
This is a terrible DG plot hole that the show didn't fix. It was stupid in the Buik, and it is stupid here. Many of these people owe their lives to Jamie and Claire. Further, there had to be gossip about Malva running around. It's not like she was being discreet. These people have no problem gossiping about Claire, but no one knew anything about Malva's behavior?
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16 hours ago, cardigirl said:
I know I'm in trouble when GHScorpiosRule and SassAndSnacks reply to one of my posts.
I think we generally, agree, right? No?
16 hours ago, cardigirl said:I have been upset all season that no one was aware that Claire was dosing herself
Same!
16 hours ago, cardigirl said:About the cup o' tea comment, this might explain that exchange.
Interesting! I have felt that there was a lot of "tea" talk this season, but I chalked it up to historical fan-service to the Boston Tea Party. In reality, there would have been shortages due to British blockades of Colonial ports during that time. But, I think you're on to something. And also, as a fan of tea, I think I need this stuff!
12 hours ago, Cdh20 said:Unfortunately the addition of this Lizzie plot was ill placed directly after Malva’s murder, so did not really add comic relief.
Agree. I remember thinking it was outrageous when I read the book and at one point being like "SHE DID WHAT!!" It didn't feel right here.
10 hours ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:I'm quite sure if you add up their lines, Fergus and Marsali have had many more than Lionel this season.
I was speaking figuratively. I'm just missing them and want them to have more screen time.
12 hours ago, Cdh20 said:Jamie’s quiet restraint in the face of accusations from around the ridge. Couldn’t you tell he was just trying to keep it all together. Sam says a great deal without saying anything! And clearly worrying, with the finger tapping! The tears in his eyes while Claire was having her breakdown.
10 hours ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:Yeah, I don't think Jamie's been unemotional at all. His eyes have been all about quiet but heartfelt intensity.
Ok ok. As much as I didn't enjoy this one, I'm willing to go and check it out again. I do recall Jamie doing some hard swallows, like clearing a lump in his throat, during Claire's breakdown.
But I still agree with the statement below, too...
12 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:Maybe if Show had indicated in any way that Jamie knew something was going on with Claire. But he didn’t. Stupidass writers had him totally ignorant and unaware.
No one will convince me Jamie knew and was just waiting for Claire to tell him.
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1 hour ago, cardigirl said:4 hours ago, SassAndSnacks said:Expand
Random Confluence of my Episodic Thoughts (Please note, I just pulled my hair into a ponytail because shit's 'bout to get real) -
- Jamie --> This is NOT my JAMMF. WTAF! Why does he have no emotion? Get effing emotional!! This is not the guy who yelled at Claire that she was ripping his guts out. This is not the guy who sobbed as she relayed to him how their baby was lost. This is not the guy who sobbed as he was leaving his son. Who TF is this guy? Your wife is standing in front of you, having a total emotional breakdown, and you stare at her wide-eyed? People are making gross accusations about your wife and you just stand there and take it? No thank you, sir.
BuikJamie WOULD NEVER. And this portrayal of a cooler Jamie pisses me off. BuikJamie wrote a resignation note to the one and only George Washington in Claire's blood because he couldn't stand to be parted from her. BuikJamie senses something was wrong with Claire after she saw her rapist and hunted the man down and killed him. ShowJamie...THIS guy...can't tell that something is up with her for weeks? THIS guy, after hearing her tell him that she has been taking ether to help her sleep, lets her go downstairs by herself for a cup of tea AGAIN?! WTAF! I don't understand these choices, and I hate them.
I hear you, but I did appreciate Jamie's calm tone with Claire, when she was flagellating herself about her selfish choices creating so much trouble. He was supposed to be the voice of reason and calm, I think, saying without her choices there would be no Brianna, no Fergus, no Jemmie, and that those are great things that came out of her choices. I did enjoy that scene.
I did too, actually.
Someone in the Show Only thread gave a great take on Claire's personality type and why this is so much harder for her. I wont copy it, because I don't want to inadvertently bring them to the Spoiler thread, but basically, Claire is a Type A "doer" and when you are a doer, you're a fixer and if you can't fix something, you take it much harder than you maybe would otherwise. Anyway, that viewer said it much more eloquently than I just said it, but you get the gist.
1 hour ago, cardigirl said:And while Lionel is creepy, the actor is really doing a good job of playing that awful man.
Agree 100%. It cant be easy to play that person, so I have a great deal of respect for him.
12 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:I'm not saying that Jamie needed to raging, but for fuck's sake, he should have clued in to what was going on with her months ago. That he was utterly clueless and wasn't aware of what she was feeling or going through is just not believable, when we saw how he saw her reaction and having PTSD leading up to Culloden; and knowing she was pregnant with Bree a few months later.
YES!!!
I just said this to someone else (so if you are reading this again, I'm sorry for being redundant) but Claire's family really bothered me. She has no support system. It frustrates me that no one could see or cared to see that she hasn't been ok. No one bothered to take her aside and ask her a simple "How are you?"
I'm sure I'm just sensitive to it, but it really bothers me. No one said a word until she came to them, to Jamie, and even then his initial response to her admission that she was huffing ether was so unemotive. He had a stronger reaction to Fergus's alcoholism, which I realize was more noticeable, but this is CLAIRE. This is the woman who, when reunited with her, he told her that the best part of having her there was that he could talk to her and tell her anything. Don't you think she deserves the same?
This is different from the book, because she didn't act this troubled and adrift in the book, so there would have been no reason for someone to be particularly attuned to her, unless she was having one of her flashbacks. In the show, they made her dependent upon the ether and made her have a greater, more realistic reaction to her trauma. And it's like no one cares. Claire is abducted, meh. Raped, ok. Is betrayed by a loved one, who cares. Accused of murder, so? It makes me so sad for her and so angry at everyone for being this unfeeling about it. I want someone to be mad for her!
Marsali would care. Marsali would have asked and been raging pissed at everyone for accusing her of this.
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Hi All,
My name is Sassy and I love Outlander. But I dinna love it last night (or this morning). Not one little bit. I almost started rage typing here around 11:00 pm EST, but I held off. Now, I realize that I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. (Read that in your best "Mom Voice.")
I've always said that a bad hour of Outlander is better than a lot of good hours of other shows, and I suppose that still holds true. But in a season of 8 episodes, I don't think you can afford to have, nor should you actually have, a bad hour of Outlander. And let's be real, we've sat through some bad hours of Outlander in the past -
Season 1 - The Search --> But at least we had Murtaugh, and Claire was so clearly in love with Jamie.
Season 2 - The Fox's Lair --> But Jamie and Claire are together and working together, so the more stupid parts of the plot are palatable.
Season 3 - Creme de Menthe --> But Jamie and Claire are newly reunited, so let's overlook the whole unnecessary lobotomy.
Season 4 - Most of It --> Eh....but we're building a new life on the Ridge, so...
Season 5 - Mercy Shall Follow Me --> Yeah, it's a lot of Bree, but at least we get rid of Stephen Bonnet by the end.
This episode...shit. I don't even know. Who are these people!!!!
Random Confluence of my Episodic Thoughts (Please note, I just pulled my hair into a ponytail because shit's 'bout to get real) -
- Jamie --> This is NOT my JAMMF. WTAF! Why does he have no emotion? Get effing emotional!! This is not the guy who yelled at Claire that she was ripping his guts out. This is not the guy who sobbed as she relayed to him how their baby was lost. This is not the guy who sobbed as he was leaving his son. Who TF is this guy? Your wife is standing in front of you, having a total emotional breakdown, and you stare at her wide-eyed? People are making gross accusations about your wife and you just stand there and take it? No thank you, sir.
BuikJamie WOULD NEVER. And this portrayal of a cooler Jamie pisses me off. BuikJamie wrote a resignation note to the one and only George Washington in Claire's blood because he couldn't stand to be parted from her. BuikJamie senses something was wrong with Claire after she saw her rapist and hunted the man down and killed him. ShowJamie...THIS guy...can't tell that something is up with her for weeks? THIS guy, after hearing her tell him that she has been taking ether to help her sleep, lets her go downstairs by herself for a cup of tea AGAIN?! WTAF! I don't understand these choices, and I hate them.
- Jamie, again --> I get that Sam is gorgeous. And has Jamie, I find him to be incredibly attractive, bad wigs and all. But I feel like occasionally, he's objectified on this show, especially now that Cait is pregnant (during filming). The views of him laying on the bed, perfectly lit, they're just odd. It feels a little fetish-y. I know, this is Outlander, there are a lot of fetishy things.
- Cait --> My goodness. This woman. She blows me away. While I strongly feel that Sam has phoned it in a lot this season, she hasn't. In an episode that I largely hated, I loved her.
- Bree --> I strongly suspect that the lack of Bree interactions with other people has little to do Covid protocol and a lot to do with the actress just being completely unable to carry a scene. She wasn't good last night, and I don't mean to harp on her, but c'mon. She has so few lines every week, and even those aren't delivered well. I did a total facepalm during the dinner scene when she said something to Jamie like "Is she <Claire> alright?" Is sounded so forced and wooden. That's your mother, honey, have some feeling. And her interactions with Roger were so cringe.
- Malva --> The intro with her in the church was a good choice. It was creepy to see her brother in the background continuously, which was also a good choice. Her words were so earnest because they were true, only they were about Allan and not Jamie.
- The Truple --> It's a funny storyline, but it fell really flat for me. Lizzie and Bros. are no Angus and Rupert. There's a lot of traumatic shit going on at the Ridge right now, and throwing this storyline in there as comedic relief felt really misplaced. Also, the final scene with Bree, Roger, Jamie, and Claire when they put together that Lizzie married two men was odd. They were all like, "Welp, that's weird! Gotta go!"
- Lionel Brown --> Pretty sure we've seen him more than Fergus and Marsali this season, which is just wrong. He was creepy as hell, and that was done in such a great way. The moment where Jamie sees Claire distraught, rushing from her surgery because she sees Lionel in there, and then Jamie leads her back in, when Jamie turns and Lionel comes into the frame...wow...highlight of the episode.
20 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:That was just horrible. I’d rather Jamie catching Claire dosing herself and then have her confessing and THEN Jamie bring up Wentworth.
YES!! Why is he not paying more attention to her?!! Literally, me screaming at the tv in with my best Nancy Kerrigan impression "Why God, Why?????"
17 hours ago, Quickbeam said:I found this episode really bleak. Everyone is knocked up or dying. Did Caitriona give birth around this time? They were either doing the pregnancy hide thing or she looked really exhausted. Even in the book these story lines were skim worthy. Looking at you, Lizzie.
I think this was one of the first episodes they filmed, so no, she wasn't close yet. She would have been in early pregnancy, which from my experiences, can be really awful, so maybe it was for her. The exhausted look was probably accurate though given that she isn't really sleeping.
And yes, the Truple is completely skim-worthy. It added nothing to this.
44 minutes ago, aemom said:I can't remember if Book-Malva was present in the house nursing Claire back to health as she was on the show. If she was, it really doesn't make any sense, because she would have had ample opportunity to make sure that Claire didn't survive the illness.
She was, but she's also the one that made Claire sick. Malva counted on Claire dying and was surprised when she didn't. That's when the whole Baby Daddy plot came about.
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2 hours ago, Pallas said:
Because being violated hollows you out, and self-hatred rushes in. To herself, despite herself, Claire is damaged goods. And she also feels that way because of who she is. Achievers like Claire, especially, tend to believe that they "deserve" what their hard work and accomplishments have brought them, and apply that sense of deserved outcomes to other aspects of their lives. We prefer to live in a world where calamities happen to us for a reason, not because we all live and die contingently. Claire is first of all a doer and a doctor, and she's been turned inside out. It's her world that's been turned upside down.
This is beautifully stated. Thank you.
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People - My best friend, who doesn't know he's my best friend, just recapped this episode. Like Malva, I'm dead. (Too soon?)
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52 minutes ago, Eureka said:
Unless that was a real song back then that was reimagined by LMM?
It was. It didn't originate with Hamilton (which I haven't actually scene either). It was a British folk song and had been used in England since the 1600s. No one really knows if the Brits sung it as they fell at Yorktown. They probably didn't, but it has become American folklore because it is appropriate for such a historical event - the world's most potent military power is trounced by a bunch of farmers, shopkeepers and regular guys doing extraordinary things in a battle that basically ends the Revolutionary War. The World as it was then, was Turned Upside Down. A bunch of upstart rebels overthrew the most powerful country in the world at that time.
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24 minutes ago, kwnyc said:
how long would it have taken for word to reach North Carolina from Boston?
I could be wrong, as this was likely one of the "hmmm, this looks like a good part to skim" moments in the book series, but isn't there a scene in ABOSAA where the Frasers received a care package of sorts from Auntie Jo and in it was a batch of newspapers from Wilmington detailing either Lexington and Concord or the Boston Tea Party and the papers were 6 months old? News would likely reach the larger coastal cities relatively quickly due to trade, packet boats, etc. and could be printed in shops there, but it would be weeks until those papers made it to the back country homesteads.
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10 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:
I hope the start of the war becomes the central theme of these last two episodes and that the nonsense with Claire is wrapped up far faster than it was in the buik.
Fingers crossed! The "Claire as a Prisoner but now as a Midwife but now as a Secretary" shenanigans were really tiresome.
10 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:I find these melodramatic Dire Perils Of Our Heroes™ to be tiring by now, and it takes away from the overall storytelling. I do wish they'd move the pace along a bit faster. Just as Lady Stoneheart was cut from Game of Thrones, Malva and Tom Christie could just as easily have been dropped completely from the story, especially since the war starting is a complete game changer overall, and nothing except Tom Christie's interactions with Jaime at Ardsmuir really adds to the characters' stories in my view. And as much as we all loathe Tom Christie, the actor portraying him, Mark Lewis Jones, is doing so brilliantly. I'd love to see him on stage. He knows how to command a scene.
Yes and YES! I eventually came around to Tom Christie in the Books, and I'm really enjoying the Show's portrayal of him.
2 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:Claire being forcibly hauled off the mountain over Malva's murder puts her squarely in the current governor's orbit and catches us back up with how the Revolution is coming along in North Carolina. I assume we'll also be hearing more about current to them events there.
I'm ready for some war action. I know they couldn't really get into it this season because of Covid filming protocols, but I want to see some battle scenes. Personally, I'm so excited to see the Battle of Monmouth on the Show, and dammit, it had better happen!
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1 hour ago, WatchrTina said:
I really DO love this book series but absolutely everything touched by the Christies turns to shit, so this part of the book is just SO depressing. It really says something that I'm looking forward to a WAR if it means we can get away from the *&^%$#@! Christies.
Preach. I would rather cross the Delaware in my bare feet in the midst of a blizzard to attack some drunk, but still scary, Hessians than to ever deal with the Christies again. The Revolution was ugly, but the Christies are uglier.
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35 minutes ago, Cdh20 said:
Claire ending the barn conversation with knowing Jamie was innocent because he would never turn his back on his child.❤️
Oh yes! This was such a great addition to the already superb book dialogue.
36 minutes ago, Cdh20 said:I kinda liked how in her ether nightmare we saw her insecurities about her hair, age, sexiness. It was a good throwback to her insecurities about her looks when she was returning to Jamie & Frank had cheated on her.
I thought this was so wonderful and honest. Who hasn't felt this way, even occasionally? Especially when you aren't feeling your best or like your normal self.
37 minutes ago, Cdh20 said:My reading ahead has finally done exactly what I expected: left me disappointed in what should be the most exciting episode of the season.
I'm so sorry, for you, that you are now part of the "I love it but I'm kinda disappointed" Club but I am happy that you are here with us. :-)
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1 hour ago, DoctorAtomic said:
pissy bitch Allan
OMG! I'm snort laughing!
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3 minutes ago, cardigirl said:
What would a prequel even be about? Jamie's father and mother?
Yes. DG is writing a prequel on Ellen and Brian. Sadly, nothing on Claire's family because we don't need to know how she inherited the ability to time travel or anything like that.
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Outlander In The Media
in Outlander
Not to be spoilery, but so far, he isn't a dickish dick in House of the Dragon. So far. It's only two episodes. But don't all McTavish characters eventually become dickish dicks?
He's toned down the burr a bit, and I'm no a fan, ye ken?