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  1. 5 hours ago, jsbt said:

    I think LW really sold the pairing with Ingo and the marriage to Jax, which I never would have bought with any other Carly back then. (I remember the chem tests with Tamara during the JFP year and I hated it.) 

    I'm gonna have to HARD disagree on this. I uber-adored Tamara's Carly and Jax. I thought Tamara and Ingo had incredible chemistry and worked so well together.  I shipped them so, so hard. 

    In fact, when Tamara came back as Kim, I was desperately hoping that maybe they would pair up Jax and Kim so I'd finally get those two together. Alas.

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  2. Personally, I'm not judging Sam or Joss, etc. for not being as good a friend or a better mother, etc. now than they were before since the writing, relationships, connections, are already SO MUCH BETTER overall in just the brief amount of time that PM/EC have taken over.

    For example, let's look at Joss. Two examples of a better change in her. In the scene between Joss and Stella, Joss was showing herself a good friend to Trina. Sure, she talked about Oscar's death, but she wasn't making it about her. She was using her experience as a way of how it could relate TO Trina. She was making it ABOUT Trina.

    Also when she was talking to Michael about Jason and the situation with Willow where Michael was worried about her, he asked what Dex was saying, and she said she hadn't heard from Dex, and he asked why. Prior to these writers, Joss would have explained that they broke up, and it was really hard on her, and the rest of the episode would probably have continued with Joss and Michael discussing her relationship with Dex, how hard it was for Joss, and how awful Sonny was for what he did to ruin her great love, etc., etc. Instead, Joss just brushed it off like no big deal because it was more important what was going on with Jason, and Willow and Michael's concerns. And she didn't even tell him.

    Josslyn Jacks did not TALK ABOUT HER PERSONAL PROBLEMS!

    There are things like this that are happening that I am appreciating. There are still issues, but overall, I am pleased.

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  3. I actually didn't think it was chem testing for Anna and Jagger, but rather we're getting some potential seeds for Brooklyn and Jagger. Their first meeting was antagonistic. She's talking/venting about him to Chase. He's talking about her to Anna, and in doing so, points out how she made him realize he had erred in his action, and essentially made him want to do better.

    I know that Chase and Brooklyn have their fans, but I read a lot more people bored with the two. Shaking them up would be the best thing for the characters and I could see the new regime throwing some seeds out there to see what blooms.

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  4. I got what Joss was saying. In her mind (and this relates back to the Jason being a smart killer conversation with Cameron after Franco was killed), when Jason killed it was in a dangerous situation where he was protecting Sonny (or Carly, or other family members). It wasn't cold-blooded. It wasn't premeditated as she said to Dex. Jason was defending Sonny (or the family). He was protecting the family from enemies, from dangerous situations, from threats. That is how she thought it was. She may have made comments now and then (like, oh, can't Jason just kill Nelle), but she didn't really mean it.

    She never thought of Jason as an actual, honest-to-god HITMAN. As someone who killed someone because (as she pointed out to Carly or Dex, I forget which one) it was inconvenient to Sonny. There's a coldbloodedness, a premeditation to that that is beyond her moral compass to accept. She cannot justify it. But she realizes truly now that her mother can and does. For Jason.

    Joss had never allowed herself to truly think it, to verbalize it, but it had been there in the back of her mind without actually thinking it through that she could/would do the same for Dex. But when she was confronted with the reality of it, she realized, nope, that is a line that she could not cross.

    This is the kind of nuanced and thoughtful writing that we haven't gotten in years.

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  5. 1 hour ago, Daisy said:

    so wait let me get this straight. Jason has rocks fall on his head and somehow doesn't die. Doesn't come home for at least a year (it feels like 2 at this point?) for whatever reason. John finds him first somehow, and goes work with me or I'm sending you and yours to jail, and instead of coming home, telling his friends and family that "yes, you know, I'm alive, hey mom."  and call Diane to get him out of this mess (as she always does). he's just... doing what John is telling him to do and being all pouty sad face about this?

    go jump on the Pennsylvania side of the river you big dumbo. 

     

    There is clearly more going on here. We were just shown a small scene. A small piece of the puzzle. i don't expect that we will know the full story right away, but with Mulcahy (and Korte) running the show, I think we can expect more complex storytelling than we're used to, and it sure looks like it's not going to drag on as the previous HWs would have done.

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  6. 27 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

    From what I've seen over the years, Finn is the most stable, gentle loving and equal partner she's had - not using her as a life raft amidst addiction or for redemption and has no connection to, history with or interest in Sonny and Jason. He has history with addiction but has maintained sobriety on his own. They understand each other's work as medical professionals and support one another as parents. 

    Exactly, re: Finn and Elizabeth. And they may not be popular here, but they do have a fanbase. Unfortunately, it's fairly clear that the soon to be gone HW had no clue nor did they care how to write for them. Here's hoping the new regime does better. RH and ME are both charismatic, great actors who work well together and can generate chemistry, as the beginning of their story showed. They've just been handed crap doled out in horribly paced increments ever since.

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  7. 43 minutes ago, jsbt said:

    Yes, that's what I'm saying, she played it. That's why I said I don't put the more latter-era change down on LW's inability to play it, or her interfering with the writing.

    That's what I said. It didn't start that way with LW.

     

    5 hours ago, driver18 said:

    When she first started in the role, she played her as written with flaws and everyone didn't love her, Carly didn't always walk away unscathed. But it didn't take long for the LW model to take over and eventually Carly became just another Cassie and Ally where everything went her way and everyone bowed to the wonder and glory of \[insert character that LW is playing\].

     

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  8. 3 hours ago, jsbt said:

    But the reality is that wasn't exactly something that began with LW in the role. Anyone who saw TB's Carly in 2003 can attest to that. Even Sarah's Carly had a number of Teflon moments near the end of her run where the entire canvas and people's attitudes got skewed around the focus on her, Jason and Sonny. That bias in the writing had been going on for a number of years. It isn't something LW brought to the character or has enforced upon it.

    I disagree. There were moments, plots when it happened, but ppl, characters still didn't like their Carlys. They still had characters looking down on them. When they screwed up, they were called on it. And when LW first started, Carly wasn't swanning around town like she owned the place.  She still played the vulnerability of Carly, as did, yes, Braun and SJB.

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  9. With regards Carly and LW, for me it's both the writing and the actress, and I think the writing for the character is because of the actress. I've watched LW in all three of her soap roles: Ally on *Loving*, Cassie on *Guiding Light*, and now as Carly on GH. 

    She's a good actress, I'll grant her that always, but I don't like her style, and what she brings to a role. She always has to be essentially the right one even when she's wrong, the perfect leading lady that everyone in the (fictional) town adores. It was the case with Ally, same with Cassie. Everyone worshiped at their feet. And Ally and Cassie were original characters that started with her and she played them until the shows were axed so it wasn't that awful. (Still, lordy, I was not a fan of Cassie--they literally brought on a character who was a prince from a made-up country just to make Cassie a princess because she wasn't worshiped enough.)

    Anyhoo, the point is that Carly is not an originating character for LW. When she first started in the role, she played her as written with flaws and everyone didn't love her, Carly didn't always walk away unscathed. But it didn't take long for the LW model to take over and eventually Carly became just another Cassie and Ally where everything went her way and everyone bowed to the wonder and glory of \[insert character that LW is playing\].

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  10. 16 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

    Catherine is part of the French Resistance but she has no problem using Christian’s “tainted” money.

    She actually did have a problem. She told him to give it back, but Christian pointed out it was how he basically gave her money to fund all her resistance activities.

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  11. 2 hours ago, Pingaponga said:

    When people have been looking at photos of Spencer and reminiscing, why are all the photos of Nicolas Bechtel? ALL the photos have been of him. It makes me a little nervous that they will bringing him back as Spencer. I know that that wouldn't really work, but all the photos have been of him, so I need some reassurance that my imagination is going wild and this isn't in the realms of possibility.

    There were photos of both Bechtel and NAC. I remember one distinctly of him and Trina, and there were others.

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  12. The hairdresser (she was that, not her assistant) wasn't loyal. The hairdresser was just as scared of Tatiana as Tatiana was of Victor. You could see that in the scene when she gave her the power, and especially when they "swapped places." When they were lying in bed, and the hairdresser was telling her about her brother, she was bracing herself to basically ask for this favor because she had spent this time ingratiating herself to Tatiana who hopefully had sway with Victor.

    When Tatiana jumped on top of her, the hairdresser was scared shitless that Tatiana was going to hurt her. Then when Tatiana kissed her, the hairdresser was still scared, and she was confused, and just going along with it so that she didn't get killed.

    I'm not saying that what Tatiana did was right by killing/blaming the hairdresser for what she did to Victor, but, no, the hairdresser was not her bestie, or loyal to her. She was just another servant to the first lady, and the hairdresser was afraid of Tatiana, but was willing to use any bit of possible sliver of favoritism that Tatiana had shown her to help her family. Which in the end, hopefully, Tatiana will do for her as she told her.

  13. 30 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

    I think that's already in the works. Apparently Jason will be turning to her for help when he comes back, reading between the lines.

    Or Elizabeth is just the intro to Jason's return. On Twitter (X) and such, Elizabeth and Finn do have a loyal fanbase. It looks like this malpractice story is going to be ending sooner rather than later (thank goodness), and so Elizabeth will get the focus of the next story. It doesn't mean a break-up. Of course, we'll see what the new HWs (hallelujah!) have planned. If it means a better show overall, I'll deal with it.

    I still maintain that Elizabeth and FInn as a pairing is NOT the issue. It's the writing for them (and the fact that the current writers refuse to write for them as an actual couple) that is the problem.

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  14. 19 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

    Not sure I know Mulcahy’s work. Is he any good?

    Mulcahy is fantastic. He's my 2nd favorite soap writer of all time (and I've been watching soaps for 40 years. He wrote for GL and SB during its heyday (I believe).  I think he's the one who wrote the infamously awesome GL election special episode.

    RE: Korte. Honestly, until I read people complaining about Korte's obsession with Carly here nonstop, I always and only heard good things about Korte. Because, yes, she has been around FOREVER. She *KNOWS* GH and has delivered some of its finest hours.

    ETA: Just checked the link and, yup, Mulcahy was there at GL during 1992. He was the one who wrote that amazing election episode. He's so very good.

     

    I'm excited for GH again! I'll have to wait until March for the new stuff, but DAMN, I'm excited!

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  15. 26 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

    Maybe they'll at least break up Liz and Finn.

    Elizabeth and Finn could be great. It's the writing for them that is the problem. Both actors are great, and have chemistry, but they simply aren't written AS a couple. Their fans don't even like the writing for them. If the dang writers would actually write them as a COUPLE, give them good writing, it would be different.

    Just now, YaddaYadda said:

    They should get rid of Korte. The show would improve leaps and bounds without the weird Carly worship and continuous fanfic we are treated to on the daily.

    Not likely considering that Korte is the temporary headwriter according to that link.

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  16. 4 minutes ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

    Question for anyone who's watched every day: Did we see much reaction to Gatlin-Holt's death? He was a massive fail of a character, but in the world of the show, he's supposed to have been working at the hospital as a doctor for a while now, he had a long relationship with Maxie, he knew her family. In the episodes I've seen, the only people really talking about him are people involved in the criminal plot. I do remember hospital characters talking about how he hasn't shown up for shifts and isn't returning phone messages, but nothing beyond that. Is his murder public knowledge in PC yet? 

    Yes, Felicia and Maxie discussed him. As did Ava and Nina, as in the personal side of their relationship. If the Qs did, I don't know as I stopped watching for a few weeks.

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