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Day made another video detailing her feud with Kevin. I didn't watch it but I really am not interested. She needs to just accept that if she treats people like crap in the house or during jury, they do not, in fact, have to be best buddies with her after the game is over.
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3 hours ago, Browncoat said:
I believe he comes back periodically, too. I waffle, though, on whether or not I think they get back together. I feel like they are a really good match, but that Scarlett must just be exhausting to be around.
I don't think they'll get back together romantically. Over time I could see them forming a sort of partnership based on business interests, raising Wade and Ella, etc. Which would be the way many marriages settle anyway.
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On 2/19/2021 at 10:13 PM, kateleh said:
Love the description! Gonna purchase it later and read 🙂
It's available on kindle now!
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1 hour ago, madpsych78 said:
How has Joy come off as more conservative than anyone else in their family? I mean, I get how she is more conservative than Jill and Amy, but that's about it. I think the rest of them (at least the adult children) are just as conservative as Joy.
Well her extremely conservative siblings say she's the most conservative. So ... that says a lot about how conservative she is.
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Well my dad's book is now live on the kindle store, self-published. I have no idea how to card count so I have no idea what he's talking about. But I'm still reading it.
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I think the fact that they're using birth control now might be triggering the sexcapades talk. For the rest of the Duggars sex always carries the risk of pregnancy. I don't know if Kendra or Anna or Joy can ever have sex without thinking "another bun?"
Jill and Derick seem like kids who found out "wait so we can have sex whenever we want with no worries about another baby?"
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I kind of feel he'll come back often enough because he has a strong bond with Wade and Ella. I think he wouldn't want to abandon them. When I reread the book I thought Rhett's relationship with Wade and Ella was one of his most endearing traits. Unlike Scarlett he didn't judge them for their limitations.
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42 minutes ago, absnow54 said:
I'm not overly familiar with these cases, but it appears that in adulthood at least one of the children admitted to making it all up, because they wanted to give the detectives answers they wanted to hear. The fact that Dylan is standing by her statement 30 years later, tells me it isn't a story that Mia coached her on.
This. Also, insisting that Mia must still be coaching a nearly 40 year old woman to make up a case of sexual abuse is IMO uncomfortable victim blaming. Dylan was examined by psychiatrists and her story has been under scrutiny and met with disgusting denial for years. As far as I'm concerned if she still sticks with the same story after 30 years it happened, period.
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3 minutes ago, Gigi G3 said:
Very interesting discussion. One thing I’ve always wondered about: where did Mia get her money from? She didn’t work that often before her films with Woody Allen. Did she get a lot of child support from Andre Previn? She came from a rich family but I believe there were six kids in her family, so I’m not sue she inherited a lot, but maybe she did. It would cost a fortune to raise all those kids. How did she do it? Are Hollywood salaries that high?
Andre Previn was very wealthy and he was the father of I think six of her kids. So that's a lot of child support. She also had a divorce settlement from Frank Sinatra who reportedly supported his ex-wives financially long after their relationships were over.
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I'll add that the Larry Nassar stories started appearing all the way back in the 1990's. It wasn't until 2016 or so that this creep finally really got scrutinized. That's a shocking 20 year span where girls were molested and their voices were not heard.
As I said, I totally believe Mia was a flaky, irresponsible mom. I totally believe she collected adopted children more as objects and was ill-prepared to deal with their special needs. But would she coach her daughter to make up molestation charges? I tend to think no.
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2 minutes ago, Dr.OO7 said:
I had to look it up--14, 10 adopted, 4 biological (3 with Previn, one with Allen)
Yikes. From one of the articles I read, it's like the ink was barely dry on one adoption certificate before she was starting another one. I think she even adopted two of them in the midst of all the turmoil.
That's not normal. Loving kids and wanting to give them a good home is one thing, but this many and so frequently and rapidly is bizarre.
It seems as if three of her children have died:
https://people.com/celebrity/mia-farrows-children-where-are-they-now/
She's a very odd number, no doubt. I just don't think she'd purposely coach her daughter to think her father had molested her.
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7 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:
I may be missing something, but I think the usual argument is that she was put up to this by her mother, not that Dylan herself came up with the allegations.
But why would a girl lie about her own father like that? Not only lie about her father, but continue the lie almost 30 years later?
even if Mia tried to coach her, if it didn't happen, would a girl just continue to call her father a molester if it wasn't true?
Most false accusations of sexual abuse actually fall apart very quickly. Dylan has been consistent about her story for 30 years. As I said, it's incredibly fucked up that society so easily can believe that a mother can manipulate her child into lying about something as grave as molestation instead of just believing the child.
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I researched more into Moses Farrow. It appears he's now an activist against international adoptions. His IG is very ... weird. He seems to think that all adoptions are child abuse.
I don't doubt that he's traumatized from his own adoption. It sounds as if he got stuck in the very middle of two batches of kids: the "Andre Previn" kids and the "Woody" kids. I don't doubt that Mia probably neglected him growing up. And maybe Woody was kind to him. I would never discount his experiences.
But he seems willing to erase Dylan's experiences.
I also think it's interesting how much society is willing to believe a 7 year old would concoct an elaborate story about being molested by a father. What does that say about us as a society? The responses to Dylan Farrow remind me why survivors of sexual abuse don't come forward. They aren't believed. People do such mental gymnastics to say "oh she must be lying" evne if they end up accusing a 7 year old girl of lying.
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On 2/21/2021 at 4:36 PM, Starleigh said:
I don't see that happening. Melanie would never be able to appreciate the earthier side of him, and, while he respected and thought highly of her, I don't think he would have wanted a life where he always had to subdue that side of him. He and Scarlett really were a good match in that respect. If the war hadn't happened, I could have seen Rhett coming back to visit at Twelve Oaks, getting himself invited to Tara, and courting Scarlett in the accepted fashion. Gerald would have liked him, and Ellen would have come around. They really might have ended up married, and probably been very happy together.
Yeah I could see that happening too. I think Gerald would have appreciated someone who was a self-made man like Rhett.
One thing I kind of wonder is after the book is over will Rhett officially file for divorce? Or will they remain married in name only?
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1 minute ago, Tasya said:
Totally pegged Joy as the disapprover and Jana as the "doesn't give a crap" one, despite others saying she would be the hard liner. I think Joy and Austin are likely the most "Husband's way goes no matter what" couple, and Austin seems extremely intolerant.
I think the older J-slaves are the ones who don't give a crap what Jill does as long as she's happy. I think no matter what happens they'll always have the bond of being 13 and charged with changing a million diapers and doing 20 loads of laundry. They probably have a somewhat cynical view of what being a Duggar really means. They might not leave the fundie life but they know it's not just never-ending amazingness.
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Joy seems to have become rather hard and rigid ever since Evelyn was born. It's just all about being "purposeful" and improving her relationship with God.
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7 minutes ago, BitterApple said:
Apparently Joy liked a fan post criticizing Jill for airing the family's dirty laundry. Gold star for everyone who pegged Joy as one of the disapproving siblings:
Not surprised. I've noticed that Joy no longer seems to "like" any of Jill's posts anymore. Jessa, Jana, and Jinger (and Anna) all still interact with Jill on social media but Joy does not.
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4 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:
And Moses has his own issues he is blind to. I have read his blog post a few times, and what stands out to me is his vitriol towards Dylan and Ronan. He hates them. He insists upon calling Ronan his legal first name (probably because it was Woody's idea). It reads like a child mad that mean old Dylan took away his daddy. Moses is oblivious to the fact that Woody had to be persuaded by Mia to adopt him along with Dylan. He almost gets there when he talks about how the custody battle was really over Dylan and Ronan because Moses was always an afterthought. But, Moses just does not want to believe anything bad about Woody.
His IG seems kind of out there too. He says all adoption is child abuse.
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Mia is on good terms with the rest of her adoptive kids except for Moses. She might not win any Mother of the Year awards but I don;t believe she's a completely shitty awful mother if most of her kids are on good terms with her.
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Woody Allen is a horrible person. If he cared about Dylan at all he wouldn't put out statements accusing her of lying.
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If Soon Yi were to say she was abused by Allen ... who would she turn to? She's completely estranged from her family. She was borne to a prostitute who abandoned her in S. Korea who most likely is deceased. She chose to put her eggs in the Woody Allen basket and I imagine has very little in the way of job skills.
This is what abusers do ... they isolate their victims until they have no one left.
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19 minutes ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:
3) As someone above said, it's completely possible that Mia IS a controlling alpha bitch AND Woody still molested Dylan. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I think actually that Mia's lack of parenting skills might have made it easier for Woody to groom SoonYi and also to molest Dylan. It's really hard for anyone to take care of that many kids, especially a busy actress.
Also Mia missed so many red flags with Woody. Like he said he had no interest in her kids. Why would you date someone who wasn't interested in your kids? Then he said if they had kids that he only wanted a blonde girl. Again, why would that sort of thing matter?
A bunch of special needs kids + an absent, distracted mother = a situation where a predator can easily groom victims.
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4 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:
I never said Dylan was lying. I can certainly believe that she believes what she is saying is true. My point was more that we have seen how easily children that age can be convinced something is true, particularly when authority figures in their lives are reinforcing that belief.
This is a whole other kettle of fish but false accusations of molestation are extraordinarily rare coming from a child towards a parent. If Dylan confided in a therapist that it happened then I believe Dylan. Kids just don't make up something that sick and twisted.
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16 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:
I think what she has said is that they had little contact, which I took to mean that they were not close. I don't know that she's ever claimed he was not a presence in her life.
I'll make clear that I'm not arguing Allen is a good person. I just question the accusation that he molested his 7 year old adopted daughter. I mean, at least for me, I read all about the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s, and dozens of children were thoroughly convinced they had been molested and tortured by various adults. None of it was true, but these children were thoroughly convinced by the adults around them that terrible things had happened.
Those accusations tended to be about strangers or daycare centers. False accusations against relatives are much rarer because of the shame and trauma involved in admitting the incident. I worked at a school where most of the girls had been raped by relatives and without exceptions their mothers sided with the molesters and kicked their daughters out into foster care or group homes.
Why would Dylan lie about something like this nearly 30 years later? That's her father.
ETA: Woody Allen is so wildly inappropriate. He admits he leaves when there's diapers to be changed? What a turd.
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Allen v. Farrow
in HBO Documentaries
I don;t think so. In the 1990's our perception of sexual abuse was very different. Woody Allen was a famous, influential filmmaker. Memories of his award-winning pictures were much fresher. People viewed sexual abuse as something "private" and a "family matter" and not something to be discussed the way it is in the me-too era.
As I said, I can picture a 7 year old being influenced to change her testimony but a 35 year old woman? No, I think if she says it happened today it happened. If Dylan were to retract her testimony she could get financial benefits from Woody Allen. The fact that she's sticking to her story makes me believe her 100%.