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  1. At the rare manuscript dinner, Floyd Stiles comes to the Gilmore table, where Jason and Lorelai are sitting together, ostensibly a couple (sitting close, holding hands, as per Emily's instructions). 

    [Jason also stated in the past that you always bring a date to these functions, and there was no other woman there with him.]

     

    So how come it's such a revelation in TTTB?  Meaning how Floyd drops it like a bomb that he knew they were dating bc of a private eye and he was sorry he had spoiled the secret.  Why would he have thought it was a secret?   As far as he knew, the Gilmores already knew about it.

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  2. Exactly.

     

    It was like a big production for him  just to come watch a movie.

     

    She knows nothing about his family.  Never even noticed his dark day.  Never saw his apartment.  Never knew he ate at Sniffie's.  Basically never socialized outside of the diner.

     

    And the most telling is when she's mad he "moved" and Luke asks her what has changed.  He still feeds her, he still gives her coffee, etc.  That really doesn't point to any extraordinary closeness.

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  3. Lorelai borrows Luke's truck.  Much conversation about lack of proficiency driving a stick.

    The he draws a diagram and says "D" is drive.

    Uh...not on any stick shift I've ever owned or operated.  There's no D.  Just the gear #s, N, and R.

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  4. We have found PUH-LENTY continuity problems in S1-4.

    6 hours ago, bracebridge said:

    I've always been annoyed that when Luke and Lorelai start dating, she has to "make" him go to town meetings and even Sookie is surprised to see him there as though that was a rare occurrence considering we are shown that Luke attends willingly (and punctually) to almost every town meeting that we see through Seasons 1 to 4.

    I was just totally thinking about this the other day.

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  5. 1 hour ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

    I will never be a Rory/Jess supporter because of how hard he worked to break up Rory and Dean (and the fact that he was a major a-hole to everyone in town, save Rory, and that was only until he and Rory started a relationship - then he was an a-hole to her, too).  And she was well aware of what he was doing so she isn't any better than he is.  And then Dean tried to fight for the relationship and gets called a creepy stalker by the Rory/Jess fans.  I don't care for how Dean was written once Jess came along, but he was far from the bad guy when it came to those three.  In my opinion, his biggest failure was not dumping Rory when she continued to allow Jess to make a mockery of the Rory/Dean relationship.

    Amen and hallelujah.  

    I totally agree. 

    If I had been Dean, I would have dumped her ass the second she insisted on hanging out with that guy.  I am one of those people who does not believe in "men/women can't be friends" or who controls who is whose friend.  But this guy was actively trying to stir shit up, even when Rory asked him not to.  If she insists on continuing to hang out with this person who harbors ill will towards Dean and/or to their relationship, why would anyone be expected to just stand around and just take it?

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  6. 2 hours ago, Katy M said:

    I think it probably depends on the fundraiser.  That stupid knit-a-thon is not going to make much, because they are only going to get pledges from the townspeople. Ditto with the basket lunch thing.  But, the inn seems to actually make money, which tells me that there's is some tourism.  So, things that will draw tourists like the hay maze and the living art display (assuming those were charity things, I don't really remember), could actually rake in some bucks.

    Speaking of the living art thing (which is so cool), it irks me time and labor intensive it is given the low turnout. Plus it does not appear to run very long.

     

    Maybe bc it is the same exact art year in and year out (minus the one yearly original).

     

    As for Mrs Kim donating stuff, most folks I know who are super churchy are big on volunteering.

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  7. On 7/23/2018 at 7:41 AM, Katy M said:

    Yep.  They eat out or get take out every. single. meal.  Which is just not possible for supposedly struggling family.  Apparently they get all the movie channels.  I've never felt like I could afford to throw money away on any movie channels.  

    Like this lady I met recently who says she's barely scraping by.

    At my country club.

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  8. 3 hours ago, elang4 said:

    I don’t agree with that. I think their friendship was two sided. Lorelai needed Luke just as much as he needed her. He brought the best out of her and brought her down to reality when she needed it. He was the one of the few she would actually listen to and she would actually take his words on board. This wasn’t all about Luke pining for Lorelai. Maybe he felt something for her a long time before she developed feelings but she really appreciated their friendship. Look at the way she would act when they weren’t talking. She couldn’t cope.

    Lorelai could have married Max, Jason, or any slew of guys and moved on with her life, supported and grounded.  Note I didn't mention Chris.  Not much of a rock, that one.

     

    If she was wiggy (pre-relationship) when she and Luke were on the outs, it's likely more because she can't stand for anyone (esp in her circle) not to like her/not be happy with her.  Least of all the guy who feeds her, fixes all her stuff, and has "the only decent coffee."

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  9. 6 hours ago, clack said:

    If, rather than being an ensemble character in a comedy/light drama, Luke had been the protagonist in a movie drama, we would perceive him as a guy in deep trouble:

    A man pushing 40, irascible and deeply conservative in his habits, runs a small town diner. His daily life consists of working long hours, and then going to the small apartment he has on top of his diner and watching ball games on TV. His only real friend is a woman with whom he is secretly in love.

    This is a guy on the verge of becoming a tragic figure.

    Great post.

    I like Luke like I enjoy many of the town's characters (because of how they make the story more interesting and complex), but I refuse to deify him like many do, because he is a hot mess and not even close to being the nice person people have built up in their minds.  This would be cool if ASP wrote him that way intentionally, but I have trouble believing she didn't mean for him to be that curmudgeonly "real deal" guy with a heart of gold. 

     

    He's not.  He's rude (many times very unnecessarily), condescending, insecure, ridiculously set in his ways, hates dogs, hates kids, hates change, hates leaving his comfort zone...he is one of those people who seems to get off on being negative about everything.  If  anyone wants to be happy or celebrate, well, that's lame.  "Everything is stupid, everyone else is wrong, and I'm going to make sure they know how stupid and wrong they are." 

     

    And to top it off, he's an emotional chickenshit who was great at running other people down but not so good at actually accomplishing anything himself.

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  10. I hate how cowed and nervous Luke is when Emily is rude to him.

    I never understood that behavior.  Even when I was 20 (let alone 40).

    Your inlaws, etc, are just people.  If they are aholes, no reason you have to put up with it.

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  11. On 7/16/2018 at 11:56 AM, ZuluQueenOfDwarves said:

    Considering there’s a GoFundMe to help get Kylie Jenner to billionaire status, it’s totally within possibility that the besotted Rory worshippers of the GG universe would do something to that effect, so their princess can be kept in the lifestyle she wants. 

    So...you're not going to be contributing to KJ's fund?  ;)

     

    My unpopular opinion today is that there is no way I'd want to live in a town like Stars Hollow.

    I'm not a big city girl, but I do like more personal space and more amenities.  I like having good friends without an entire population being up my shizz and I despise gossip.

  12. Yup.

     

    Luke never just straight up asking Lorelai out never made sense.

    Neither did the whole having to listen to a tape to "realize" Lorelai was the one he was into.  Smh.

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