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Aftermath in the Media
italianguy626 replied to zxy556575's topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
I went to it using incognito mode in my browser. It's all about how great a man LRH was and how he helped so many people through his research and technology. Its been in existence since 1995, around the time Scamatology was battling alt.religion.scientology on Usenet and the online publication and distribution of the OTIII level. It's clear on the site that it has been put together by Scamatology. -
S02.E14: Ask Me Anything Season 2
italianguy626 replied to FormerMod-a1's topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
Disappointed in this episode. Was hoping to hear more from Mike and Leah and instead got a "greatest clips" show. Maybe they should have done a panel AMA and brought in the Headleys, John Brocheur, Amy Scobee or any of the high profile Scientologists they've had on the past two seasons and expanded out to two hours.- 18 replies
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I remember reading Bare Faced Messiah back in the mid 90s when I first encountered Scamatology. There was an article in Wired magazine back then about how Scamatology was attempting to take on the Internet, particularly the Usenet group alt.religion.scientology and then attempting to suppress the OTIII materials that were made public as part of the Fishman Affidavit in the trial of Church of Scientology International v. Fishman and Geertz. This led me to the Usenet group and from there I went down the rabbit hole. Lots have been asking about Hubbard's appearance and how people could be attracted to him. In both Bare Faced Messiah and Going Clear, it is noted that Hubbard had a huge amount of charisma and naturally attracted people to him and was quite the ladies man in his youth. Maybe he was somewhat attractive when he was a younger man, but we don't have many pictures/video of him. I strongly believe he was a psychopath, and so is Miss Cabbage. Here is a quick read from a psychologist on how to identify a psychopath and differentiate that individual from a sociopath. Hubbard and Miss Cabbage fit the psychopath profile to a "T". Here is a sentence from that link that jumped out at me:
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Aftermath in the Media
italianguy626 replied to zxy556575's topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
US Weekly’s cover story this week is about Leah and her quest to take down Scamatology. Web preview of story. -
Aftermath in the Media
italianguy626 replied to zxy556575's topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
Looked at my DVR. Tomorrow is Propaganda Arms at 8 eastern (7 central). Tuesday is The Life and Lies of L. Ron Hubbard at the normal time, with an extra chat right before. The following Tuesday is the ask me anything ep. about season 2 at 8 eastern (7 central). -
S02.E11: Aftermath of Aftermath
italianguy626 replied to a topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
I believe they get around this by referring to Sea Org members as the church's clergy. Here is the page at the IRS website that discusses how clergy wages and income are treated. -
S02.E11: Aftermath of Aftermath
italianguy626 replied to a topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
When Leah was in Sea Org, she worked at the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater doing housekeeping. Fort Harrison is the hotel Scamatologists stay at when visiting Clearwater to do their higher OT levels at Flag (the so-called Super Power Building, which is attached to the hotel). Sea Org has to keep the hotel in tip-top shape so that visiting Scamatologists (non-Sea Org) are comfortable in parting with their money. /sarc Pretty much, Sea Org does the upkeep and maintenance on Scamatology's properties and they get paid $50 a week, plus the "free" courses and auditing, for the privilege. -
S02.E11: Aftermath of Aftermath
italianguy626 replied to a topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
They do prey on the poor and less affluent. It's just when it comes time to discuss taking and paying for courses, if the mark is truly destitute or near destitution, then Scamatology says "Hey, we've got this thing called the Sea Org. If you join, you get all your courses and auditing for free! What a bargain!" However, if the person leaves Sea Org, they are presented with a freeloaders bill, where the church bills them for all the "free" courses and auditing they did while they were in Sea Org. As for being holed up in a private compound, Sea Org is holed up in private compounds. I would guess that most of the membership, outside of the celebrities, are Sea Org and there are very few members that actually live among the general population. I've read that the ones who do live in the general population usually have Scientology issued computers and devices that either have Internet access disabled or the computers/devices are filtered to exclude anything that is anti-Scamatology. That is, unless you are Miss Cabbage and give your dad a Kindle and forget to disable the Internet on the device and he uses it to access the Internet and find out all the crap the cult pulls. -
S02.E11: Aftermath of Aftermath
italianguy626 replied to a topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
It's all spelled out in policy left by LRH - you never defend, you always attack. You must utterly destroy the "enemies" of the church. According to fair game, anything goes, even lying and making up stuff about the enemies of Scamatology. That's what makes these attack sites so laughable. They are so over the top in their condemnation that they aren't believable. -
Small Talk: Kings and Queens
italianguy626 replied to Meredith Quill's topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
I have Uverse and haven't had an issue. Even been grabbing the "First Looks" and "Extra Chats". -
I think what they do is like that tale about putting a frog into water and gradually bringing it up to a boil. Frog doesn't know until too late that it is being cooked. Same thing with Scamatology. They don't hit you upfront for $100k. It's a $100 course here, a $50 course there, then a $500 membership, then a $1,000 package of books and pretty soon you are into it for significant money. A lot of people, who don't want to feel like they threw their money away, will just keep going. It must be something about human nature because that's how Ponzi schemes and multi-level marketing scams hook people in, too.
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Thanks, one of my good friends from high school is a lawyer and he frequently presents cases to me to get my take on whatever the issues are, putting me in the role of "prospective jury member". He also explains "lawyer logic" to me as he says it can be different than everyday civilian logic. Scamatology would really not want any case to go to trial. That's how the OTIII level and Xenu story got out. It was read into the trial record for the Fishman and Geertz case. IIRC, Scamatology tried to block it by claiming "trade secrets" but the judge in the case overruled and allowed the information to be in the public record of the trial. This was around the dawn of the world wide web, and the information quickly spread.
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I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, but I think Judge Wittemore probably allowed the arbitration hearing to occur so that any ruling at trial wouldn't be overturned on appeal. So, he put the lawsuit on hold, allowed Scamatology to have its phony-baloney arbitration hearing, and now the Garcia's lawsuit will hopefully be reinstated and allowed to go through. The Scamatology playbook has been to delay, delay, delay and delay some more until they cannot delay anymore, then quickly settle so that a trial, and all the wonderful depositions and discovery that comes with a trial, doesn't see the light of day. I am so hoping the Garcia's don't settle and aren't persuaded to accept a settlement offer.
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S02.E08: The Greatest Good
italianguy626 replied to a topic in Leah Remini: Scientology And The Aftermath
I bet a lot of these questions would be answered if we could see what was left on the cutting room floor. I would guess these interviews are a lot longer but get edited down to fit whatever allotted time they have to showcase that person and their story. -
Nathan recorded a video responding to the Scamatology smear site they put up about him and Tara. Linky.