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I think he purposely double booked them. Just like Issa double booked her wine down and Lawrence dropping by to pick up his mail. Lawrence wanted the phone o be ringing when he was with Issa and wanted to be breathlessly late if/when he finally caught up w/ Condola. Same jeans from the night before. And she bought the sweatshirt, as someone mentioned upthread. I have to say, Issa's sweatshirt game is tough. I wouldn't really call it messy bc she started out w/ the best of intentions. Actually, she was worried he might be trying to tell her he was sick. And she didn't seem all that interested to see his new apartment. The sex seemed more spur of the moment. And I tend to judge "messy" on a sliding scale. Molly's threshold for messiness is a lot lower than Issa's bc Molly has no emotional intelligence. So if Molly did it, i would call it mess. But not so much w/ Issa bc she can roll with stuff better. Only if Issa could be our tour guide! It started in college? I didn't get that impression. Didn't Molly and Isa both attend school in CA? But Lawrence attended somewhere else. He mentioned it in one episode and it wasn't in CA, if I recall. I'm re-watching so I may catch the episode soon. I think it would be awesome if they could try again but the time apart really highlighted their differences IMO. There was something really weird about all of the time he spent w/ coworkers at Meridian and the sudden revelation that he no longer wished to pursue entrepreneurship/app development. I think they had to make Issa trip and fall in the restaurant bc that is really the only connection she still has to the awkward, passive, self-doubting person in Season 1. She's dressing better, she's self employed, she's branching out trying to make new friends, she's being direct and honest w/ ppl (We Got Y'all, Nathan, Condola, Molly, now Lawrence). I feel like she would be underwhelmed w/ the new Lawrence.
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S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Oh wow. Ok thank you for explaining. I see what you're saying now. I didn't realize girl-on-girl experimentation was so prevalent 60ish years ago! Heck. I was oblivious to it 35ish years ago when I was a preteen! LOL I guess, just for me personally, I'd think "heteroflexible" (as suggested below) would be a more apt term than "totally heterosexual." But we are all free to ID however we want. Right he seems like a such a "people pleaser" type. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that before the relationship coach gig, he sold cars. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
I've read this several times and I'm still not sure what you mean. How do you know what it would take to jump right in with Erika? I'm not sure how someone can be "totally hetero" but enjoys having sex with people of the same sex. But my suspicion is Stephanie and Erika's interest in each other was based much more on an emotional bond, especially Stephanie's interest in Erika. They both identify as "different" and said they spent hours commiserating over past failed relationships. I can see how someone like Stephanie, who tries to be sexually liberated, might get that emotional bond confused. It's just sad to me that they couldn't have tried to save the friendship at least. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Maybe but he accidentally admitted he still considers himself single and refuses to tell his clients he's n a relationship. Don't the guys who are head-over-heels usually go very public w/ their relationships? I'm thinking his freak-outs have more to do w/ him than her. But IDK. And I can't believe Avery told producers she considers him her soulmate or whatever at the beginning of the season. Welcome! -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Right. If you meet someone great, you say to your friends, "this is my partner." And you expect they will treat him/her politely. It shouldn't be handled like an audition. But even still, they all knew it could get awkward. And it did. Just move on. LOL -
Ed and Rosemarie: The Long and the Short of It
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in The Couples (Spoilers)
Did anyone listen to his sexual assault accuser's story? -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Ed is so damn manipulative! I hate that trait in ppl! Do you notice how he is always twisting words around? When Ed told Rose he didn't want anymore kids, Rose asked him, "why did you wait until you got here to tell me this??" (Very direct question?) And Ed said, "I'm 54 years old and my child is grown. Why would I want more kids?" THAT'S NOT WTH SHE ASKED YOU, ED!! She wanted to know why you waited until now, after all these months of listening to her tell you she wanted two kids, and after you had sex with her, to tell her you didn't. He does this all the time! Then when he told her she has bad breath and should use "a good toothpaste," she said, "you don't think I brush my teeth??" And he said, "i'm concerned bc it could damage your heart." 😅 I mean, that's true but that's not what she asked. And then there was some more word twisting with his mother. Then saying how the STD test was a dealbreaker. But when she got mad at him, then it wasn't. Then justifying lying about his height bc it didn't matter if they could see eye to eye. Then he is the "bad person" when she calls him on his BS. I believe that is called obfuscation and it is considered emotional abuse. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
And I can't blame her for that...now. But she basically announced that she was unwilling to during their first day together, before she'd had a chance to even experience Steph's bullshit. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Why do you think Steph wants out of the relationship? Bc she's not bi? Or some other reason? I know Erika is being portrayed by the show as the sympathetic hero. But I like her only slightly more than Steph. I think she clearly gave the Steph the impression she was willing to move to the US but back tracked as soon as Steph got there. I thought it was childish and mean for Erika to immediately run to her friends and bash Erika after their argument about fooling around w/ the guy friend. (All that's going to do is poison the friends against her and make Steph feel ganged up on. Plus, some things just need to be worked out privately as a couple.) I felt Erika got quite defensive about deleting the dating app (which may or may not have been a dating app). And I still don't like that Erika didn't offer Steph a ride to the airport or even offer to arrange a ride if she needed. Why?? Are they still involved? -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
She said she doesn't want to let him leave like this and she doesn't want it to be the end. I hope she doesn't call her mother and yell at her for turning her against him blah blah. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
IDK if it was cheap or not. But I think it was dyed. If you like that dramatic, jet black Married to the Mob look (and I used to), it's going to be pretty one dimensional and fake. Even if it's done at an upscale salon. (The benefit to having it done professionally by someone who knows what they're doing is that once you get sick of it, you can remove it far more easily and with less damage than you could w/ cheap bottle color. Based on Varya's single teenage pic shown, she is dark haired. But I highly doubt jet black. The jet black would look better on her is she wore it in a style and not just hanging like a wet mop. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
But there have been several other Filipinas and a couple of women from other Southeast Asian countries and they didn't talk like Rosie, the maid from the Jetsons.😄 -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
But didn't they face that same dilemma last season w/ Caesar and Maria? -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Yeah, I did go back and you're right. She said the girl hadn't come out to her mom. That is odd, then, isn't it? Unless Erika was waiting the girlfriend to show some signs of being ready to come out before Erika would come out? IDK, I think issues of "coming out as gay/bi" are being conflated a lot w/ issues of "as claiming me publicly" w/ this couple. -
S04.E12: King Of Wishful Thinking
BallisticNikki replied to OnceSane's topic in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
I don't think it was ever specified that Erika was a secret specifically to that girlfriend's mom. Just that she was a secret. Maybe Erika objected to being a secret to their peer group. When I was a teen, we didn't really involve parents in anything but we did want to be recognized as the girlfriend among our peer group/classmates. Erika could have been out to her friends but not her parents.