[S17.E01: It's Like They Never Left!]

I was actually sad to see Joe go-only because I so enjoyed his season & the chefs on it. I am rooting for Eric because he’s a “local” chef to me & he is fine (I’m shallow) but I want a woman to win-there are so many talented women on the show. And seeing Jenn reminds me of Isabella’s stupid face & comment about not letting a girl win. 

One of my favorite parts was Tom raising his hand when asked who had been named sexiest chef. I absolutely love Tom & his treatment of his employees (especially now) & charity. Plus-like I said-I’m shallow & he is also very fine. 

[S04.E06: Caged Heat]

12 hours ago, FozzyBear said:

Carl is such an asshole. What the fuck is his problem? He has serious rage issues. I actually thought Lindsey was being relatively calm (for her) at the dinner until Carl decided to go full smug rage monster. I actually would not have gotten over it as quickly as she did. I don’t think I would ever be friends with him again. Honestly, I think there’s something wrong with him.

I think Carl got so ragey and obnoxious because he wasn't getting a reaction out of Lindsay. If Lindsay is calm and pleasant, he is the bad guy (in his mind-he IS the bad guy to every rational person), but if Lindsay "Lindsays" then he thinks everyone will think he did the right thing. My opinion on him anyway. I would call him a child, but that is insulting to children.

[S04.E06: Caged Heat]

I hate Carl so much. He has not changed in all the seasons and then to blame his dickish behavior on blacking out is such a sad excuse. He is in his 30s, not a college freshman his first weekend drinking away from home. It feels very gross in 2020 for him to say "Well I yelled at you because I was blacked out." Honestly he sort of needs a woman like Lindsay-maybe with a strong personality pumping him up, he will be able to..I don't know.. keep a job his BFF didn't give him.

I feel like Jordan is trying to rush into being a couple with Jules to a-prove to people he is "manly enough" (eye roll on having to prove that) or b-be on the show (even though Jules is as cute as a button and seems pleasant). I thought her calling him for the dare was hilarious (and did Kyle call her a "stage-5 clinger" after? Your fiance hates you Kyle-chill). 

I know I am very much a party of one, but I like Hannah. I know people think she is ugly, but I appreciate how she isn't always done up like the other girls (probably because I wear very little makeup and I'm projecting) and always seems up for something sporty. All people aren't attracted to the same types of people and confidence is a pretty attractive quality so maybe Luke likes that? I also like that she made him work a bit and didn't just immediately hook up with him (I 100% would have when I was younger!).

Spoiler

They are apparently all over each other's social media still, so they might still be a thing. Or just friends, but they are on good terms.

She is also very funny on twitter and in interviews. She reminds me a bit of Courtney from Below Deck in that way. 

[S01.E06: Oof! I Did It Again]

54 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

Don’t walk so loud?   Because some passed out hammered guests are “sleeping”?    “I’m totally self-sufficient”  “I’m lonely”  “I need my alone time!” “flirting doesn’t bother me” as she pulls out the knife....

Seriously. She is such a fun sponge. I hated that Paget told her not to sound too bossy because it sounds like something someone would tell a woman, but in this case, I think it is just her. 

I think I love Madison. She is such a hard worker, managed to be professional in the face of that complete dickbag, and whip up a plate of grilled cheese? Plus she was very cute last week trying to cheer up Ciara (good luck).

[S10.E14: Something in the Water]

I go through phases where I just hate Jennifer so much but then she pulls me back in only to lose me again-in one hour. This was one of those episodes. I like her support of her brother & I actually like Bill. It’s a real roller coaster over here. 

I took my 20 year old boyfriend to my prom. He was a year ahead of me so he had just finished his freshman year but was 20. We had a lovely time-like we did at his the year before-and he managed not to be a sexual predator to any of my friends. 

[S07.E18: Big Girls, Do Cry]

7 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Moving to NYC from Florida is a very big change, especially financially. I assume she has something big lined up.

I think she moved there awhile ago-not just after this season wrapped. She drives to Florida a lot because her dog is afraid to fly.

 

6 hours ago, Lamima said:

And at end he said he was going to go on a vacation with his daughter. I think he may have even said to the beach cause I said, out loud, so he can kick sand in her face. 

Either he or Brian basically said their daughter would never act like the women (Kate/Rhylee I assume) so I guess that means men won't kick sand in their face when they are sitting away from them enjoying a cigarette and a beer, not speaking to them. 

I really did love Courtney this season and people seem disappointed she went with Brian the last night. He is hot and she knows it isn't going anywhere-why not? And I could watch that scene with her and the dog on the dock 100 times. 

I am so happy this season is over. I am a drinker, but I was so tired of watching Kevin and Tanner fall all over the place (and pantless-no thank you) all season. They are both trash and can be taken out accordingly with Ashton.

[S07.E15: Public Displays of Affection]

23 hours ago, ghoulina said:

On 1/16/2020 at 7:56 PM, Teri313 said:

 

People can be obnoxious when they're drunk. But you don't stick your unwanted tongue down a woman's throat - TWICE - just because you're drunk. You don't attack the van you're riding in JUST because you're drunk

Don’t forget ashton also needlessly “helped” Courtney out of a trolley thing by putting his hand on her ass before they got to the club. He might not have been sober but he wasn’t yet Smashton or whatever his stupid alter ego is called. I was so glad she said something to him. 

I felt so terrible for Courtney. I know exactly the feeling she had when you get something like that text in the middle of the day & then you have to function the rest of the day. I’m cringing now-that pit in your stomach is awful. (I’ve dated a few “Brian’s.”) She is wonderful on Twitter-she calls out people that make sexist comments to her. I am a huge Kate fan (I personally love other women) but my Courtney love is starting to get to the same level. I wish I had her self respect in my 20s. 

[S10.E09: Abs & Jabs]

35 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

 I would take Caroline, Kathy, Amber, the twins, or even Siggy over Melissa, Dina and Jacqueline.  

NEVER Amber. With Amber comes the worst house husband ever. I listen to the Watch What Crappens and they did a mailbag where they were asked who they could "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" and I think Amber was mentioned (and Siggy was definitely mentioned-what a monster). 

WHY does Teresa walk so weird? At the pool furniture store, she walks like a comical cowboy from an old western. If you cannot walk in heels, just don't wear them! 

[S07.E13: Exodus]

43 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

Yeah, we know about TV production. We also know that they can’t make you do something that you don’t want to do. Nobody made Ashton kiss Kate against her will 3x. Nobody made Ashton complain about none of the crew on the boat giving him a BJ. Nobody made Ashton punch the van and then try to assault Kate.

I totally agree-the great Heather B from Real World season 1 said something along the lines of "Don't be a bitch and they [production] can't show you being a bitch." (Paraphrased but I always loved that.) Production didn't encourage Ashton to be a drunken lout and destroy dj equipment, marginalize women, and then assault one multiple times. Actually-two since he grabbed Courtney's ass and she called him out on it and he acted put out.

24 minutes ago, scrb said:

This is a reality show.

drinking is de riguer.

Along with Capt Sandy, many of Bravo folks don't drink-Kandi from Atlanta, Marge from NJ, Jill from NYC, Luanne from NYC while on probation (JK-she drank on probation)... 

Maybe Ashton should take a page from Courtney and Simone's book and have a few drinks, dance, and not manage to embarrass themselves (outside of hooking up with Tanner) or blackout. He is 30, not 22-he should know how to handle his liquor by now. 

[S07.E13: Exodus]

23 minutes ago, scrb said:

Oh and as for the misogyny, Ashton apologized, knowing full well Kate never would.

I'm still confused as to what apology Kate owes Ashton. He's the one that sexually assaulted her and physically intimidated her, then punched the side of a car (which would be his second property damage issue in a few weeks)-I would have left too. Is it because she didn't leave a note?  Like many women (and men), this is sadly a familiar scenario for us, and you can bet I would have left that boat too. It is called fight or flight and from my experience in a similar situation, she was probably shaken (plus intoxicated) and wanted to be away from him and the cameras. I also did not leave a note-maybe I should have apologized in court when he was forced to? 

[S07.E13: Exodus]

8 hours ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

Kate is treated like garbage, Kate walk away from a hostile, drunken, and borderline violent situation where she was the target, none of the assholes suffer any consequences, Kate does not pull any favors with the Captain or anything of the like despite the fact that she should, and returns because Bravo, production, and money(as if Lee has any say on Kate’s hiring or firing lol).

But sure, Kate’s just riding that privileged cloud.

Seriously! I guess because people are good at their jobs and gain the trust of their superiors, and therefore have job security, they are expected to stay in a violent situation. To me, this preferential treatment/job security that everyone speaks of just reads as supervisor trust in an employee to me. It IS nice to have and I have it, because I earned it through my job performance.

As for the cheese, it doesn't matter if it is not an allergy. If the guests don't want it, don't make it Kevin (I loathe him). The guest said it didn't "sit right". I wouldn't want to pay a lot of money, be served something that didn't sit right, and spend the vacation is in the bathroom, particularly if I was the girl sleeping in the lounge. 

ETA that now I want matzo ball soup.

[S07.E12: Yacht-Pocalypse Now]

5 hours ago, SimonSeymour said:

Of course I’m team Kate in the van situation, but I’m just wondering if he’s that much of an incel, or if there’s something I don’t know about Ashton’s mom and that Kate hit a nerve with him that she knew about? Not that his reaction was acceptable either way (he’s terrifying). 

From what I recall, the only comment he has made about his mom was earlier in the episode-I don’t think he ever brought up his family last year. I absolutely loved him last season. I thought he was so sweet with Patrick Swayze eyes & thought he actually treated Laura (the stew he had a fling with) with respect (especially compared to Tyler & Rhylee). I have no idea why he is so angry this season. 

Brian is on social media apologizing to Kate & explaining to the general public that he didn’t know how bad the situation in the van was & that he went to bed as soon as they got home. I’ll give him a pass because he does seem decent, until the next episode. 

[S07.E12: Yacht-Pocalypse Now]

5 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

16 minutes ago, jmcd44 said:

You raise very good points, and I think I have to agree with you.  On the other hand, if I were Kate, I think I would have been banging on Captain Lee's door and demanding that he have Ashton removed from the ship, not the other way around.  Kate leaving just gave Ashton what he wanted - she gave him the upper hand-now, he can say what a big man he is because he "won".  

Actually I probably would have done that too. I would hate letting Ashton win because I’m very petty. I do wish someone had gone with her to talk to the captain if that was what she wanted to do. I don’t know that the female crew realizes the extent of his rage. On Twitter (you guys I swear I get real news from legitimate sources & use twitter for bravo & dog pictures) it was mentioned Kate didn’t want to tell the captain (per a podcast) so she didn’t get preferential treatment. I don’t know that alcohol wasn’t more of a factor in that over perceived reactions. Thank you for answering so nicely-I always like to hear how other people would handle situations! 
 

[S07.E12: Yacht-Pocalypse Now]

10 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I was disappointed with Kate tonight, too.  She is usually better than this.  I don’t think we’ve seen her this drunk so often on the show as we are this season.  It was hard to watch her have her tantrum and walk off the show.  We all know she will be back, but it was still hard to watch.

I’m very seriously just asking what you thought Kate should have done. I’m not trying to be a jerk. I don’t think they are allowed to use their locks & if my physically larger coworker assaulted me (again) & then used his size to physically intimidate me because I asked a question & not one person stood up for me, I would leave & get a hotel too. She didn’t seem like she was having a tantrum to me but just wanted to leave (she seemed a little in shock which reminds me of younger experiences). I used to have a Rhylee temper in my youth & I taught myself to just remove myself from the situation when I can leave until I am rational. 

Apparently on the after show (credit-twitter because I don’t watch those so this is allegedly) Tanner & Ashton are saying Kate deserved It because she’s a bitch. It’s fucking 2019 boys. I loved Ashton last season & he is lucky that this is a network that gave TRav a platform or he might be my most hated. And I include Danielle. Between racist Leeanne & predator Ashton, why am I watching? Bring on top chef.

Tanner is a pig. 

Good stuff-those kids were cute & funny. And I thought the parents dealt with them very well. 

[Temptation Island (2019) - General Discussion]

On 12/8/2019 at 8:13 PM, nlkm9 said:

I think Ben is a great transition - because she is so needy, I’d love to see her fall in love with herself before she jumps in again. But I’m glad for her at any rate!

Ashley is 24 right? I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but when I was 24 I definitely hung on to too many losers because I was insecure and unhappy in other aspects of my life. My friends (same friends from then-we've just grown up) have all said Casey is just the kind of loser we would let have strung us along at that age.  I hope (and she should) that she matures a little and realizes she doesn't need a relationship to be happy and that she is a nice, sweet, very pretty girl, and should have her pick when she wants. I know I am a horrible person for saying this, but I hope Casey cries A LOT next week. 

@Booger666 I didn't see your post before I hit submit, but re: David & Kate spoiler: 

Spoiler

He is awful. I don't think I needed to spoiler that but just in case Toneta was on the boards and the threesome wasn't enough to dissuade her from David.

Spoiler

I read a spoiler (it might have been here but just in case) that one couple leaves together and then breaks up prior to the reunion so I guess that is Ashley and Rick. And that Casey won't come to the reunion and AGAIN I LAUGH.

[S07.E10: Everyone Hates Kate]

I thought Kate was being an asshole with throwing the clothes and not accepting Brian's apology, but that is all I think she was a jerk for. While I have zero idea what is so offensive about being called a yachtie (I do not get mad if people call me by my employment title), I liked that he apologized and seemed sincere and I didn't like when she dismissed him (and I am of course RIDE OR DIE Kate). However, I was SO annoyed at the brus. First of all, who said Kate needed to be "put in her place". That is almost the grossest thing said this season (I'm afraid it was Brian). And second, maybe the brus should have enjoyed the day and the pool and the swim up bar and not just sat around and complained about Kate all day. As I sit in randomly warm and cold DC, I would have killed to be at a swim up pool bar. Third, they are so predatory toward women. I assume those two women were professional dancers at the resort and maybe they didn't want the likes of Ashton and Tanner up on their podium. (I find predatory behavior of all people to service industry folks gross-to Capt Lee too by the women, before anyone asks). Also Ashton's dancing grosses me out. 

AND TANNER. He is so gross. I was just (internally) screaming "SIMONE GET SOME SELF RESPECT". I know she is 29, but I feel like I had found my self respect by then. And she asks him not to run his mouth and he says THAT is why he isn't in relationships. Hmmm-is that why Tanner? Could it be you repulse women? And has anyone's mother ever had to ask them multiple times if they got a sex worker pregnant? I get that she is trying to be Colin's mom, but I find the original Colin's mom annoying. He is foul. Simone can be annoying (mostly her taste in men and her "O.M.G."), but she is a nice, intelligent, pretty girl-she can do SO much better than Tanner and his big mouth and weird long gyrations.

Courtney's bathing suit was fabulous. I think she and Rhylee are friendly on social media so the Brian stealing might be a blown up story.

[S07.E09: 12 Seconds in Heaven]

On 12/6/2019 at 10:22 AM, Yours Truly said:

Ashton and his work so hard to get a blow job comment tells us that he doesn't like it when women don't comply.

First-bravo to your entire post. I won’t back down at work when it is necessary & often I’m the only woman to do so (and I’ll speak up on others behalf because it is uncomfortable for some to themselves) & I know it bothers some people. And I do think Rhylee can be a jerk but if she had ordered her own food, Kevin seems like the kind of person who would react to that too when HE is ordering (to a woman). Tanner seems like a try-hard so it wasn’t surprising to see him jump in. And Ashton? I loved him last year but he has lost me forever with that comment about how they only had (were stuck with?) girls that didn’t want to have fun, where fun only seems to mean orally service him. So women are just sex objects to him? To quote Rhylee “GOT IT”. I know Ross made out with Rhylee last year but didn’t Ashton also-or at least try to? 

[S07.E08: A Recipe for Disaster]

3 hours ago, newms said:

Shred them, Rhylee. I completely understand your anger all the time. Dealing with misogynist assholes is exhausting and this crew is full of them. The shit she must deal with her job infuriates me as a viewer. The “act like the bigger person” is bullshit. All that does is let the asshole get away with they’re behaviour. And they will steamroll over someone who reacts to their shit nicely. So again, shred them, Rhylee. So glad you’re back. 

I’m with you. I don’t necessarily love Rhylee, but I felt for her last year when the deck crew kept telling her to calm down when she was speaking rationally at a normal volume. And why is Kevin such a prick? Just order chicken satay without the sauce & chill. He has spoken down to Kate, Simone, & Rhylee now. Someone upthread said he wanted to be in with the “cool guys”. He will never speak down to them. 

Capt Lee tweeted something about how Simone should have taken the garter off to not encourage the primary. Extremely bad take Lee. 

[S10.E02: On Lock Down]

10 hours ago, dosodog said:

I really enjoyed Jennifer tonight.  I think its the first time ever.

I did too-it felt weird. But I liked her talking to her daughter (who I felt so bad for-having food thrown at her? What horrible children) & I LOVED her calling out & calling Danielle “Beverly”. Then she gave Tre a cute wink when she corrected her on the oil & vinegar comment. Like I said it felt weird but I think there was a full moon. 

Putting this in a spoiler just in case (about Danielle)

Spoiler

Danielle is horrid. I can’t wait until she gets booted for putting her hands on Marge. About time Bravo. Also-I read she is back with Marty. He’s a fool. 

Danielle isn’t even good hate watching like Jen usually is-she is like Jim Marchese. Just useless & hateful. 

[Temptation Island (2019) - General Discussion]

I hate Casey. Even more than I David. He’s such a pathetic liar. How do these women (cough Peyton cough) not realize he is there to hook up & her his ego stroked? He’s going to go home with Ashley. 
 

Spoiler

Speaking of-I will take absolute glee in him being upset next week & I hope he breaks his stupid hand on that bench. She is beautiful & seems nice-she can do better than him. I fear she will still leave with him though.

Peyton is also pathetic. I am very much hoping her crying & running away from Casey was for camera time. You went on one (two?) dates with him. Chill. I’m 40 & dating & I will never miss the complete insecurity of my early 20s (do miss unlined skin). 

Per usual-Esonica for the win. She seems like a blast to hang out with & just cool in general. 

Zero sympathy for other Ashley watching Rick. Good for him. But I find Medinah to be extremely annoying still-“oh I’ve figured out Casey!” Girl-we all did in the first episode-he’s a choad. 

[S07.E05: Magic Ashton]

On 11/2/2019 at 12:43 AM, biakbiak said:

Oh good more creepy women making unwanted advances on the male crew. It’s seriously sleazy and I wish someone would point it out but realize that is unlikely on this show.

I feel like I could’ve quoted any of your posts. It’s gross. Men have said gross stuff for years to the stews on this show (I remember someone asking Emily Rabbit about her V) & everyone was always horrified. Why is it ok for women to yell at deckhands to take their shirt off? While they are working too-part of their job is safety. I don’t scream at attractive male flight attendants “TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRT” during their safety demo. I know I constantly sound like a stick in the mud on this site (maybe that’s why I like Kate?) but I promise I’m fun-I’m just grossed out by this stuff in 2019. 

I thought Kevin did alright with the food this week-lots of the courses looked yummy to me.

I adore Courtney now-she has a great dry sense of humor.

As for Abbi-the rumor I’ve seen is 

Spoiler

She leaves during the 7th charter. And we get Rhylee  

[Temptation Island (2019) - General Discussion]

On 11/2/2019 at 12:27 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

I don't like Medinah after this episode, and I don't find her attractive either.

She made me really uncomfortable when she was straddling Rick. I’m sure he was fine but he was saying “stop” & she kept going. If you reverse the genders, it would be seen as pushy at least but most likely predatory. I know this is a tv show but it still felt gross. 

And good lord Peyton. One date & she is having serious conversations with Casey? Dude is just trying to party & hook up (under the umbrella of the “process”) and go back to his girlfriend (I hope she leaves him). He’s not trying to have relationship talks with her during a booze filled party. I was annoyed for him & he’s a loser. 

This season is definitely grosser than last season but I’m a horrible person so I’ll keep watching.  

[S07.E02: The Proposal]

10 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

I do know that every dude who was ever on this show would rather stick their dick in a pencil sharpener than Kate. I mean seriously how can Tanner be after Kate when you have a happy,  sweet and beautiful girl like Simone around who is on the same level as you? I call shenanigans.

It just sounds like people are evaluating women on whether guys hit on them or not & that feels gross. Kate is a jerk (that I enjoy) & there are many reasons to dislike her besides saying no one wants to fuck her. 

There were lots of stews & female deck hands no one ever hit on (Connie, Jamie, Jen, Lauren) and no one talks about them like that. Amy was the best stew ever & Eddie chose to nail Rocky (also cheating). 

[S07.E02: The Proposal]

2 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

As I remember the origin of her conflict with Ben in her first season was that he didn’t want to bang her anymore.

Kate & Ben hooked up between her first & second season-he was cheating on his girlfriend with Kat during Kate’s first season. Her second season was the Leon season & Ben was only there two charters & they were fine (I just rewatched the end of that season this weekend).  
 

6 hours ago, Sage47 said:

Poor Brian, Courtney shot him down hard. She really thinks she’s all that

Courtney’s complaining & aversion to work is extremely obnoxious but she doesn’t owe Brian anything. 

I don’t bang any of my coworkers & in fact date outside of my workplace. Guess I’m horrible like Kate & Courtney too. 

[S07.E02: The Proposal]

4 hours ago, Lizzing said:

I am way off on my own, but I really like Courtney so far. 

Like your love of Ronnie and Ben, I am with you on liking Courtney.  I sort of thought "What a pill" at the club, but then realized I hate clubs too and I want wine and conversation.  Also I am blessed with an angry resting face so people constantly tell me to smile and I am going to sort of steal her line of "be funnier" with a smile twist. She complains a lot, but she seems to do her job competently & that is all I need when I am interacting with servers.  I might just like cranky people though?