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10 minutes ago, Neurochick said:
I don't fault Rebecca. Women are not allowed to put themselves first, even if they aren't married with children. All she wanted was to do something for herself independent of Jack and the kids.
I don't understand why it's always wrong for a woman to want this, when it's usually, or probably mostly always the other way around.
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3 minutes ago, Crs97 said:
Loved Miguel. Jack, when you tell your wife you won't allow her to do her job, you are now classified as "in her way." Did Jack tell Rebecca about the secretary flirting with him? The halo has fallen.
It will probably turn into the story of how Rebecca is to blame for his death or something. Now she will have to feel guilty.
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I'm glad he finally stopped constantly.....CONSTANTLY complaining about his other roles and being shirtless. Especially since this role is.....well, nevermind.
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11 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:
I never did buy that he painted that paining he showed the girls with all this in depth perspective. Still don't.
Same.....SAME.
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That article was so confusing to me
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Yeah, I was wondering if the character is based on his life or something lol
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Well hopefully by season's end it will seem like the writers have put at least SOME thought into Kevin and his story. Thus far it seems a sloppy mess
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From watching the previews for next episode...I am now at the point where I am LOLing at how that darn Rebecca is just always messing up
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I don't think I would want a Jack in my life because I would be often questioning if I was with a real human and not some robot or something straight out of a romance novel.
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It just seemed extra. We already knew how the big three came about. I don't think that when it was written and filmed they knew they had years to develop characters. And I think they have so much to cover each week because they keep adding things on....and then dropping them. And then adding something else on and dropping that. I just read an interview with Justin Hartley the other day where he mentioned there was so much to cover and so many people to write for that he seemed happy this latest storyline turn with Kevin was being gotten around to.
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5 hours ago, Aloeonatable said:
That was a one-off. Beth is an original character that will be in the show for many years. I am perfectly willing to let them roll out her story over time. What's the hurry? We know she grew up in a large family. We know her father died from cancer. I'm sure with the format of the story we will see more of her and her part in the Pearson family in the years to come.
I don't think it makes sense for a show in its first season, with that season about to end, to have backstory on the firefighter and the Dr. before characters like Beth and Miguel. But I think the show in general will probably make it a habit to keep introducing characters and spending time focusing on them and really anything other than the central storylines they have started.
On 1/30/2017 at 9:47 PM, kieyra said:I made it through 1.5 seasons of HTGAWM and only because of the lead actress. Well, and the actress from Gilmore Girls. Jeez, drawing a blank on both names. I suck. But generally I have a no-Shondaland rule. Empire is in a similar vein. OMGWTF! moments and plot twists drive the stories, not the characters. The characters behave in whatever way is necessary to set up the OMGWTF! moments. This Is Us is a little more subtle about it, or at least started out that way, right up until Toby did a patented Grey's Anatomy post-coital death-crash into an
anvilcoffee table full of food. And the reveal of William's bisexuality. (I always feel weird typing this, because obviously there's nothing wrong with being bisexual, I just object to the way they saved it up as a 'gotcha!' twist. It felt unearned, and like something they just decided to do the week before as a ... wait for it ... OMGWTF! moment.)Unrelated, but at this point I have a pet theory that the show started out, on paper at least, as mostly being about Randall, and they worked backwards from there to create the other characters. I know Jack is theoretically the 'heart' of the show (god knows they're not going to give Rebecca that honor), but Randall's modern-day life seems the most detailed and developed, what with William and all. In a way, him finding William was the show's 'inciting incident'. (There's nothing wrong with the show being about Randall, I just think it may be why some of the other characters (the females, in particular) don't get to have as many layers--they were added on later.) Anyway, just a theory.
For the most part I like Shondaland. Especially HTGAWM. The first few seasons of Scandal were great. But the shows don't try to be something they aren't, unlike what I think is the case with TIU.
Interesting that with William's sexuality the show wanted it to come across as though none of the characters cared or anything like that, yet the intention seemed to have it be an OMGAH whattatwist moment for the audience given the fact it was revealed in that particular cliffhanger episode.
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I feel like that's every other comment out of Dan Fogelman's mouth. But I don't see it, myself.
Ok So I'm not the only one that sees the Shondaland similarities? I think Shondaland is one of the main group of shows Fogelman is referencing when he talks about what's not good about television.
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We see this time and time again. All the time. Since TIU claims to be soooooo different from allllll the others, why can't they take a different approach?
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I love Candy!!! And pretty much all of Mandy's other hits :)
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Those ratings are incredible. 13 seasons. 13 seasons!!!
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1 hour ago, talktoomuch said:
I'm sick of the answer that eventually we'll get to see more layers to Jack that make him less perfect. We sure haven't wasted any time getting to Rebecca's layers. But here we are 12 eps in and are still constantly reminded that Jack is perfect.
At this point any flaws they show us in Jack will be amply minimized by his perfection. It's like when a person waits until you're totally in love with them to reveal a major secret or flaw. They know you now will weigh it against all the love you gave for them. Though had they told you in the beginning, you would have judged the reveal on its own merits.
I'd just prefer to judge Jack on his own merits. Not in the lens of "but he's so perfect otherwise" that the show insists on as its singular focus.
Exactly. Same with Miguel. I rolled my eyes at Dan Fogelman (as I often do reading his interviews about this show) when he said we will get to know about Miguel. Oh really....when, exactly? They know exactly what they are doing.
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I don't know why nearly everything Dan Fogelman says about this show annoys me. Since this whole season is a tease about how Jack died and wondering what episode William dies in, I wonder what will be the big tease will be next season
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The more I think about it the more confused I am that there was an entire episode dedicated to this. Unless the Dr. is going to become a series regular WHY waste one of only 18 episodes on this? It reminds me of being in school and needing a paper to be a certain length and struggling so filling up a page with a bunch of....stuff. As it is, the show already wastes soooooo much time on trying to be cute, but this took the cake. It seems like the kind of thing you do AT LEAST two seasons in. Like, when your core characters are already established and you want to do something different just because.
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I realize one way those involved with the show sell it is as feel good and as though it is the only one on television. But it also tries to sell as just the realest thing ever, and HBOish, cableish instead of just embracing the fantasyland aspect of it full on. Which is fine to be, and people obviously are responding and crying, so no need to make it out to be something else. To me that really bugs. The other thing is that there actually are plenty of other feel good shows on the air such as The Middle, Modern Family, Fresh Off the Boat, Blackish, Speechless (GREAT new show), The Goldbergs, The Real O Neals. Those are just some comedies off the top of my head that have much more realism, plenty of diversity, good messages, and heartwarming family moments that feel natural and not forced.
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27 minutes ago, Winston9-DT3 said:
They mentioned it in the script two or three times early in the season. People wonder when it's going to come up again because if it never affects the story why would they have bothered mentioning it repeatedly like that?
Do you think it is going to come up again? I have wondered if the issues between Kevin and Randall, Randall and Rebecca, etc. will come up again. They just seem to move on from them. The drinking might come up again, but I can easily see it not. And I can easily see Jack's perfection being built up simply to have a greater impact (in other words, more tears) when the episode with his death occurs, and for Miguel/Rebecca to never ever overshadow the couple. That's why Miguel gets the edit he does.
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That is probably going to be the season finale.
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No way would they write somebody like the firefighter like that. So far the only villains on this show are Jack and Rebecca's parents and I guess now Olivia and these are all to make the love stories of Jack/Rebecca and Kevin/Sloane more epic, not to produce a diverse group of characters. But it's definitely going to be a my life has more meaning now or meaning again kinda thing with these characters.
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Don't like the writing when it comes to Olivia/Kevin. It seems a mess and all over the place like they're not sure what to do. At first it seemed like they were going for a hate turns to love story, and eventually showing different sides of the Olivia character. Now it seems like they want her to be an evil villain out to destroy the true love between Kevin and Sloane. Weird wig and everything. BASIC.
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8 hours ago, Winston9-DT3 said:
I think the show is trying to be edgy... "Look! We're among the first to not only feature obese characters but ours are super obese AND we get racy! Obese sexiness is the new gay sexiness!" (As in, the new racy/edgy/progressive TV sex portrayal.)
Yes this. We may be on network TV, we may be a wholesome family show, we may be the new Parenthood, we may make you cry every show, but....we also got Milo's butt!!! And stuff with weed! See how rebellious we are!!
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S01.E15: Jack Pearson's Son
in This Is Us
They couldn't even give the flaw of jealous Jack without Rebecca having dated the guy previously. Gotta give justification somehow I guess while at the same time putting blame at Rebecca's feet. It just reinforces the belief that women can never ever even think about themselves without being considered a selfish jerk not deserving of a family. The rare times a man takes the usual position of a woman, he is the greatest man ever to exist and deserves thousands of medals. Whereas women who do it every. single. day can barely get a thank you.