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I feel like I’m still not hearing anything about why Laurel and Dinah are around other than their actresses want to continue playing the characters/the network wants to keep them around?
The victim is tied to Mia. Mia has been training to be the new Green Arrow and will get those memories back. Mia lives in 2040. But why are present-day Laurel and Dinah the ones now in the future teaming up with her? Right now, it sounds like anyone could have taken those roles. Barry could’ve run to the future/Sara could’ve taken the Waverider/etc. and given Mia her memories — and maybe the others — and then returned to the present/time-traveling and left FTA to be the heroes.
I'm sure there will be some weak reason for it — and we’ll probably see Dinah and Laurel acting like they were super close to Oliver/mourned him/whatever while talking about him like he’s dead but remaining vague about his fate — but I can see why Superman & Lois was ordered to series already and this wasn’t — and we haven’t seen more than a 20-second promo.
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I’ve been expecting them to be super vague about Felicity in 809, but I just hope they properly acknowledge her and don’t make everything about Oliver being her father.
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10 minutes ago, way2interested said:
There's also an interview with JH in the link
https://www.hypable.com/green-arrow-and-the-canaries-juliana-harkavy/
With Felicity as a caring parent throughout her life, she’s a little more put togetherMaybe it’s just me, but the writer’s phrasing here annoys me. Felicity was a caring parent in the pre-Crisis timeline, too!
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35 minutes ago, tv echo said:
On working with KM, KC: "She's great. She's a really good actor. Um, she's awesome. I mean, all of us get along. That's what's also really about -." JH: "Thank God." Access: "You're already a family." KC: "Exactly. We know these people and everybody's - yeah, it's just been wonderful." JH: "Kat's amazing."
Maybe this is true, but for some reason this all rings false to me, especially agreeing that they’re “already a family.” (And you know what? It’s okay if they’re not. Every TV cast doesn’t have to be ridiculously close.)
Maybe because of how they’re promoting the show versus how KM is on social media. Wonder if that will change after the episode airs and we get a better idea of what it’ll be? Still think Star City 2040 would be a better title since it looks like it’s taking place there/then. Wonder if that might change now because they considered that a spoiler?
(accidentally posted in Spoilers Only thread, sorry mods, please delete that post!)
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3 hours ago, tv echo said:
Then why doesn't E2 Laurel AKA Black Siren have to suffer some recompense for her murderous past? Her killings were even worse than Oliver's because she intentionally and cold-bloodedly murdered innocent people (like the building security guard, the girl in the garage, the cops, etc.). And what about Sara? She was a League assassin, but she gets to get a happy ending? I can't stand this double standard when it comes to Oliver versus everyone else. Oliver saved his city, the world and the multiverse, so I think he more than balanced the scales. He deserved a happy ending.
Agreed. That’s why I expect them to use Crisis to erase E2 LL’s body count. And aren’t they going to add to Oliver’s in the finale? Didn’t SA tease Oliver killing a bunch of people then?
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8 minutes ago, lemotomato said:
So basically reverting her back to E1 LL as BC, who always thought of herself as a serious and experienced vigilante.
That’s why we got that scene in the crossover that made no sense!
At least whatever version this Laurel is, there presumably won’t be that awful not-deathbed confession. We’ll maybe get something like E1 LL went off to find herself after her near-death — and Lance was at her side in the hospital, not Oliver — and somehow found a meta power because why not? Then she just came back around Season 7 to help Felicity (to keep that connection with Mia in the possible spinoff) and none of her evil deeds happened so they can continue to ignore them and bonus, that fries/milkshake scene for Laurel/Dinah happened since it originally happened with E1 Laurel/Nyssa.
actually, that was probably more thought than they’ll put into Laurel, so never mind.
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3 hours ago, Velocity23 said:
doesnt really count as such when you consider the magnitude of Olivers sacrifice. What they were just like hey Felicity sorry your husband died can you do us a favor?
Oh, I agree. I’m very bitter about everything regarding Oliver’s family. Anyone who hasn’t watched Arrow would probably think Rene and Dinah were super close to Oliver, Felicity was just tech support they called for help, and his family could be anyone, really. No mention of Thea, William or Mia — who everyone just met and fought alongside!
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From the part 4 thread
49 minutes ago, Velocity23 said:The fact that none of the so-called Olivers friends picked up a phone and called Felicity shows how little they actually cared. They are all bums.
they did. To have her look for him like tech support or for them. No mention of his family’s loss whatsoever. Mia and William weren’t even mentioned. Rene and Dinah were too busy crying and acting like they’d suffered some major loss and no one else mattered.
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I’m very, very bitter about the final crossover Arrow participates in. Especially the fact that it seems like everyone forgot about Oliver’s family — except for his one line as he was dying — and Felicity was relegated to being talked about like tech support.
Also, don’t even get me started on the Diggle/Laurel scene.
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I’m honestly surprised they didn’t have E2 LL in the crossover instead and have someone call her BC/a hero to remind everyone before 809 since they seemed to love doing that in S8. (But I am glad they didn’t have Sara do that.)
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10 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:
I don't think it was supposed to be memories that the Paragon had, as Kate certainly wasn't present in that Oliver and Ray scene, but I don't remember what Spectre Oliver told Barry exactly. Whatever it was just helped him find them.
I figured that was Oliver’s memory since Spectre Oliver was in there and they just used it as a lesson for Kate because they had nothing else to do with her.
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Question: So Barry found the paragons in the speed force in memories at least one of them had, right? So whose memory was the Diggle/Laurel scene? Dead Sara somehow overheard them? Or she imagined that’s how Laurel took over as BC?
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7 minutes ago, way2interested said:
The promo from CW saying to go to the app to see the other promos. Did it have stuff from 810 as well? Like Oliver had a line in it and I think there was a shot of what looked like Oliver and Mia jumping off of a roof together?
I caught an Oliver line — something about the mission? — but not Oliver and Mia.
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Honestly, don’t really care about the last two episodes. Sure, I’ll watch them, and I’m looking forward to seeing Felicity again, but I don’t care about anyone else really. Especially any of “the Canaries” for the potential spinoff unless one of them is Sara Diggle, to be honest.
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I really wish we'd gotten some Oliver/Jefferson scenes.
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This would be much sadder if, you know, they at least mentioned his wife and kids.
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SARA DIGGLE YES!
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1 minute ago, quarks said:
How is DINAH of all people the one monitoring the computer systems? Like, has she ever done this even once in previous episodes? There's several Team Legends people who seem more appropriate here! Or Brainy, given the number of Supergirl characters in this episode?
They needed to give her something to do because ... I honestly have no idea.
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That was corny.
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No, Sara, you were a better climber.
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Yeah, Rory was the best of the newbies. Don't you forget that!
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Five minutes ago, Rene was crying over Oliver. Has he forgotten about that? Probably.
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Listen, until I'm told otherwise, Oliver and Felicity are living happily ever after together and just telling everyone he's nowhere to be found. Once the crossover is over, they'll clue Diggle and Sara in. And that's it. No one else deserves to know.
(I know this isn't happening, but whatever.)
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Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown
in Arrow
Wow, I don't think we've ever gotten this many photos of Felicity for an episode before.