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I basically thought Logan was dead and William staged it as an accident. Logan's hands were tied and he was set naked on a horse sent galloping across hilly terrain. How long could Logan really stay seated? A fall from a hose at a gallop could break your neck. If William looped stirrup in such a way that Logan would be dragged by the horse if he fell, Logan would easily be killed. Stripping him naked? Way to make it humiliating by making it look like his own foolishly reckless (and sexual) actions leading to his death. Basically I thought it was William setting up both murder and the way he got away with it.

Ross is an overgrown manchild with a short attention span and poor impulse control. Liz is a dimwit. And poor Geoffrey-Charles.

At this point I consider time-slippage/2 timelines to be confirmed. The greeter-host was a greeter in Wiliam's timeline. She is a Wyatt-plant/damsel in Ford's current plot line. She has clearly been reassigned as has Lawrence. William =MIB theory still has wiggle room (though I think it highly likely). But there seems to be far too much circumstantial evidence + a supplied in-world explanation (re: the way host's memories work) + Delores outright saying she can no longer tell the difference for me to think that there aren't at least 2 time periods being shown. (I tend to agree with theories of there being at least 3 timelines --Delores in the old town where they're dancing and gun to her head/ Delores returning with William-quest / Delores traveling there now alone ). Re: greeter host 'blowing the magic'.... they have Maeve the motherly settler in the video as well and she is repurposed as a madam in Sweetwater. Greeter Host is on the outside edges of the park beyond leveling up Pariah. Maeve would be a greater chance of 'blowing the magic' than greeter-host.

The impression I'm left with stems from a few mentions in the episode about the way Hosts memories are such that the past is the same as the present. The show is doing the same thing to the audience. It's a pastiche of past and present stitched together...for one story. Timeline is all over the place My guess is that the William and Delores plot took place decades ago (but that she is experiencing reveries of it now). And I think William is MIB. I base this largely on MIB's story about his wife. The way he said he'd always considered himself a 'good man'. William is about to get married in the Delores plot. MIB says his wife committed suicide after 30 years of marriage. After his wife's death, he returned to Westworld to do something 'evil' and murdered Settler-Maeve. Since MIB is '30 years later,' I wonder exactly how long ago was it that Settler-Maeve tried to kill herself and got reassigned as Madame Maeve? The original William and Delores plot will either end badly or as an anti-climax. I think that plot is taking place in the distant past. After the D&W quest, William left to marry whoever and Delores is sent on the short loop plot with Teddy as looped in the first episode. (Further evidence is MIB rescuing the host-bot who first introduced William to the park) But, after being activated by Abernathy, she's traveling the same path as she did with William. We have flashes where she's alone and William disappears. She's re-enacting 30 years ago in the present, but cannot tell the past from the present while doing it I also think that Bernard is Arnold. Or rather the host version of Arnold. So some of the memories of Delores' interviews aren't with Bernard at all but are very old memories. As to why would Ford make an Arnold-bot.... why would he make his dad-bot, his dog-bot, his kid-self a bot? Clearly, Ford doesn't let go of the past. He just recreates it, and subjects it to his will. He's done/is doing the same with Bernard/Arnold. To what end? Unclear. But... Ford is a controlling old man. He might be well on his way to wanting to perfect the code so he can upload himself and live forever while maintaining complete control of his fiefdom.

Yes and no. Yes in that it is a departure. It seemed consensual in the PBS version so he doesn't look like a rapist. But he DOES still look like a douchebag with a sense of entitlement that's out of control with women. He is possessive of Elizabeth. He went there to prevent her from marrying another man despite having no claim on her. He thinks he can sex her up, that he is entitled to do so, because... why, exactly? Seriously, why? BC he's the dick in the sole Poldark family? He also thinks sleeping with her will stop the wedding. And he does this with no thought to her reputation or the possibility of her becoming pregnant. Why? Because he's the man and thus is entitled to control her and stipulate what she may and may not do with her own life. ...And he can menace his wife for trying to talk him out of screwing around. ...And he can tell his wife that he was entitled to do all of this because he's the dick of the house. So, even without a rape, he is entitled, controlling, and dismissive, full of arrogant belief that he owns these women and they must suck it up and do as he sees fit, bowing to his opinions and whims despite years of evidence that he is a hot headed fool who makes dangerous, unthinking choices on a regular, dare I say constant basis (my opinion of his overall idiocy will never overcome his agreeing to a loan at 40% interest. What, other than disaster, could he have expected. 40%!!!! Idiot) Ross still comes off as arrogant, entitled, controlling, sexist and overall an idiot, who doesn't realize he's a creep where women are concerned. Ugh! It being the 18th century, Demelza can't dump and divorce his ass, but I wish it were an option. Re: George,. I wish they would make him less mustache twirly. He definitely set up the tin prospectors on Elizabeth's property. He did it in his stalking pursuit of her. But I wish there had been a moment of shock for him when Elizabeth's mom stroked out. George isn't omnipotent. He wasn't arranging a stroke, just scaring Elizabeth. There should have been a moment of surprise even dismay over what his scheme had caused, then he decide since it happened might as well use it for his advantage. He'd still be a villain but a less ridiculous one. And yes, I root for Nana Poldark.

I wondered bc I heard no 'no'. Still, Ross is awful. Wish it were viable for Demelza to up and leave him.