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Honestly would rather watch Vinnie be whiny & Clara complain about no-sex Ryan than watch H&J anymore.

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1 minute ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I also think he has been dumped by women in the past for what ever reasons and he is taking it out on Haley.  

And Haley's ex got someone else preggo which has caused her to become an angry & toxic person.

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22 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Jake is a whiny muscle head.  So he doesn't like Haley.  Fine.  But he won't even try to be nice and pleasant sitting at the table with the others.  He just wants to cast a pall on the gathering because he wants to act butt hurt and call Haley out in front of everyone.  I'm glad she's no longer reacting to him.      

If no longer reacting is being a bitch on wheels, well maybe...

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1 minute ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Brianna can, too, about Jake. Worry about your Doughboy.

She doesn't know the whole picture & should STFU, but they ask direct questions so these people comment on the other marriages, which really sucks.

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3 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Yeah, he’s so over it. And doesn’t he know you are not suppose to answer your phone or text while driving? 

I missed that; that's bad.

Otherwise Haley can't be any more fake; Jake speaks truth & knows just how fake she is. She's trying to pull things out of him that she has no right to anymore. Haley isn't there when they're not filming, but he's supposed to be cool with her act.

Haley just went to this retreat to bitch about & at Jake. Neither of them belong there.

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Great... another episode of Haley picking on Jake. Fucking sake we know you hate him. And I'm hating this show.

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Clara's chosen a longer negligee for tonight's Unfiltered.

JamieO asks Clara & Jake how they're doing -

Clara: "Good!"

Jake: "I'd rather be anywhere else Good."

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1 hour ago, NowVoyager said:

!? 3 HOURS !!?

 

I think, it's 2 hrs, & the last hour is the Unmatchables thing.

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I think Haley was not really ready to make a marriage commitment, & it being the infinity symbol freaked her out.

She should've kept it around though, & with things going badly just told Jake she needed more time to determine if wearing that symbol seems appropriate.

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Sounded like Danielle & Bobby are done with having kids, & I don't blame her/them at all. I'm also glad for selfish reasons, as I'm pretty tired of hearing about all her issues whenever they're on the show. I guess now it'll be all about the kids though.

So they got MAFS, bought a new house & moved, went to one income (sorta, they do have MAFS & other SM/publicity income now), had two kids one right after the other while dealing with a slew of medical issues... these two will either thrive for the long haul or fall apart if life gets too basic & boring.

Jephte filming Shawniece on the toilet while she farts... um, stahp. The fake preggo 'scare'... all so stupid.

Sad about their 5 year plan if they're really done. I don't follow SM & haven't seen any new re-posts so wonder what's up.

Steph & AJ - they seem perfect for each other. I dislike their competitive natures but it's all for fun & works well & is probably bonding for them. Sometimes it's funny to watch.

Deonna & Greg are boring in a good way - in a they're-doing-well way, so I'm happy for them.

Best part of this episode was Henley pulling up her mother's top to cover the always over exposed boobs. Even her kid is sick of seeing them. 😂

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I wish they'd stop the couples retreats - typically annoying &/or boring.

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Didn't Chicago Anthony get Ashley an "A" pendant of some sort?  He dreamed an "A", or did I dream it...

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1 hour ago, Empress1 said:

And second, if he finds love at 41 or 45 or 50, so what? It's not less valuable. He might think "I wish I had more time with you," but that doesn't mean whatever love he finds is somehow lesser because he found it after a certain age.

Better less, but happy, time with the right person, than more time being miserable with the wrong person.

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11 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.  That Mother sounded like she spoiled the shit out of Haley.  Now she’ll probably throw the bracelet in Jakes face and make a big production out of it.

She'll punish him for sure. In Haley's world, no one is allowed to have feelings except for her (IF she has any).

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Enabling Hailey Mama... can see perfectly where the problem started.

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1 minute ago, Silver Bells said:

If a guy goes to the trouble of picking out a gift, you better well appreciate it.  After that altercation, she gets that look on her face that he’s not even worth talking to and walks out in a huff.  She is a tough nut to crack, and mean.  Jake was just speaking his mind in a nice way that it hurt him, but of course she doesn’t want to hear the truth and walks out like a spoiled brat that she is.

 

YES!!!

3 minutes ago, MyTwoCents said:

If I were her, I’d die of embarrassment to take him to any work function.

Her uppity, condescending attitude is immature & embarrassing for someone to be with or around.

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1 minute ago, Crashcourse said:

She didn't want to, so she should have returned it asap.  

Maybe she'll hand it back to him on decision day, when they finally end this crap.

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I'm glad Pepper pointed out that Jake has feelings, & that Haley lacks empathy. Yeah they never belonged together, but this has been a damaging experience for Jake in particular. She shut down & doesn't care at all about his feelings. He's still a human being.

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FFS his shoes again? She's so damn superficial.

She probably sold the bracelet.

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1 minute ago, Crashcourse said:

Vincent does have a sexy voice.  

He can do a beard well.

I like Brianna's glasses.

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3 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

I wish Jake would freakin' shave!

Hmmm... I'm not usually into facial hair, but I think he actually looks better with a beard. The in between stuff , maybe not.

Ryan should really do something; his beard is so patchy.

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Sure, Ryan. Sure. 🙄

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Just now, LennieBriscoe said:

Oh, he's determined to show America just who Haley really is and has been: Uninvested from the git-go. Scornful. Insulting (a wedding gift of a $20 HAT?!). Indifferent. 

Good. She's uncomfortable for a good reason - she's a fake & always has been.

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I think the point is Haley just never took anything about this marriage seriously, which he's right about.

Also $800 for a stranger - I guess it means he was serious about this, but, way too much to spend on a tv 'wife'.

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This is so ridiculous to ask anything of Jake when she's only there for the cameras. But keep acting like he's the one not trying fake Haley.

And Jake didn't want her to know he wrote to his younger self, "Don't ever sign up for MAFS".