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I'm gonna continue the trend...
One thing that gets me is that Kailah is frustrated with the situation and she's like "I don't wanna feEd into this" when Bear calls her over, yet she goes and she feeds right into it.
#ChallengeLogic
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56 minutes ago, blackwing said:
Granted, I despise Ben, but I feel like the disadvantage wasn't enough of a disadvantage. So he had to build 30% more. Big deal. That was like 8 blocks or so. Easy to make up that time considering people were going at different paces. The fact that he almost won is evidence of that. I think it should have been more of a disadvantage, maybe something like one hand was tied behind his back. Not being able to use one hand to balance himself while stepping through those ropes might have been a lot more difficult.
Better yet, for an astounding EIGHT fire tokens I feel like it should have given Nick more power in the game. A vote nullifier or a steal a vote seems like it would have been perfect. I just don't think it was enough chaos. But then again, I hate Ben, Tony and Sarah so would have appreciated any move that would have taken away their power.
The disadvantage that Tony got from EoE, that was worth 8 fire tokens.
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I'm not entirely clear on what was Nick's plan. Give the disadvantage to Ben so that Michele or Nick wins... and then what?
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17 minutes ago, skybolt said:
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. For instance you can argue that Brad Culpepper was as strategic and brash as Tony, but she beat him. The only person that is delusional about being a big threat to win is Ben. I think it's partly because he thinks that he was an outcast in his first season, while Tony and Sarah have convinced him that he's a welcomed addition to their triple alliance.
Brad is far more brash than Tony.
I do overlook the thought sometimes that the game is more nuanced. Any time I think of a winner, that is the person that I believe has the best game play. It seems like most, if not all, of us agree that Tony has the best game play and therefore will win. In Game Changers, I genuinely thought Sarah played the best game and therefore was gonna win, and the same goes for Tony in Cagayan and Jeremy in Cambodia and so on.
Despite that, the jury doesn't always vote that way.
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6 minutes ago, skybolt said:
But Boston Rob is one person, and is admiring Tony for playing a game conducive to his style of being the puppet master. Russell Hantz would also approve. I could also say Wendell cheering Nick on to keep talking means that everyone else is rooting for Nick.
To paint more of the picture that I'm seeing in my head... the picture assumes that Nick is not in the final 3. The picture assumes that it's Tony, Sara and (X)... with (X) being Michele, Denise, or Ben.
But you never know...
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14 hours ago, zenithwit said:
Wasn't crazy about how the show handled Jay's departure. He was clearly woozy from the hit so it's understandable why he had to leave. But I didn't like how Rogan was automatically granted a red skull for literally/medically knocking out his competition rather than technically winning the elimination per their rules.
I agree. Rogan should not have been given a red skull because he didn't win by the rules of the game.
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14 minutes ago, skybolt said:
I don't understand why posters think Tony is a lock to win if he makes final 3, and that players like Sarah and Denise are stupid for not getting rid of him. I personally love Tony and he was the one I was rooting for since day 1. However, IMO although I think Tony has done a great job pulling the wool over the eyes of the remaining players, I don't believe the jury is as impressed.
I think that Tony is a lock to win based on Boston Rob's reaction when Kim was voted out saying "Tony's a boss." I imagine the EoE players talk about TCs at least a little bit. I imagine Rob is not the only one seeing that "Tony's a boss." I imagine as they're on the outside looking in also, they see Tony, more than anyone else, playing the game.
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2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:
I feel like I'm losing my mind because people seem to be thinking Ben started hating Jeremy first but in the ep before Ben wouldn't talk to Jeremy, Jeremy had confessionals talking about how he hates Ben (and I'm pretty sure he used the word hate) and that everything Ben does annoys him, so I think it seems like Jeremy hated Ben first. Or, at the very least, they both hated each other for some reasons we aren't privy to or just because sometimes you hate somebody for no logical reason lol.
I don't recall. I'd have to back and rewatch. As far as I remember, Ben ignored and brushed off Jeremy because they showed Ben saying he thought Jeremy was going to win so Jeremy was Ben's sole target. Ben was making it blatantly clear to everyone, including the target that is Jeremy, that he wanted Jeremy out. Aftering ignoring Jeremy and not wanting to work with him, Jeremy went on to say that Ben was a child and was annoying. I could be misremembering.
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7 hours ago, EllenB said:
I guess Michele is starting to hustle, but for me it's too little, too late. She spent too many episodes on her Wendell drama, then she moped around doing nothing for too long. I don't dislike her, but I can't respect her enough to want her to win - unless she's up against Ben.
It’s late but Michele really had nowhere to go. She lost most of her alliance once Kim and Denise jumped ship without her. She’s been left out of every vote, even when she’s willing to be a number for the majority. No one but Jeremy was willing to actually play the game with her.
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11 minutes ago, Tachi Rocinante said:
That's about all she's bringing, though. She's nearly worthless, and the only resume item she has is a roomful of participation trophies.
I agree. She’s just been comic relief all season. For that reason only, I hope she sticks around.
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5 minutes ago, vb68 said:
Is Ben thinking he can just rock that fire making challenge at the end like last time? I don't think it will do him any good, but that might be his plan.
He really gets on my nerves the way he runs around blabbing everyone else's plans. I'm still not sure how he just away with outing Kim to Tony.
That could’ve been one of Nick’s moves to get out Ben when Tony confronted him about Kim’s plan... had Nick not been such a terrible liar.
Nick could have used that moment to turn the tables on Ben, but it caught up to Nick and was one of the reasons he got voted out. Tony couldn’t trust him anymore.
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18 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:
Denise....is basically playing for fourth place at best, as I guess she assumes her Sandra move is all she needs. I guess she tried to solidify a Ben/Sarah F3, but I think she forgot that they go to fire at F4 so someone would need to for sure beat Tony.
From the way things look, Denise isn't going to the end. I'm curious at what she believes her path to the FTC is.
She's voting out everyone that could have been a number for her. It seems that her and Ben are close, according to Sarah, She's not turning Ben but I believe Ben will turn on her before Tony.
It seems like Ben is in everyone's final 3. Everybody knows Ben has made no moves, they know they can beat him.
3 minutes ago, bamlouie said:Haha I thought the exact same thing! I guess it still takes skill to land it on the correct side, but I thought this advantage was more of a game of chance that would have required a more objective way of flipping the coin.
I thought Jeff was gonna flip it.
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7 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:
Sarah apparently assumes that she can beat Tony if she sits next to him, so she tattles on Michele, who was 100% correct, and has a good laugh at how she's...going to lose to Tony? At this rate, can she even get a couple of votes against Tony? I can't name a move that she personally made, at least not a major one like with Tony.
This one thing is what got me in Michele's corner. She's the only one making sense. Sarah is just as much of an idiot as Nick.
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3 minutes ago, me5671 said:
The thing that bothers me about Sarah's game is that she doesn't even seem to be thinking about turning on Tony. She demonstrated this when she ran and told Tony and everyone what Michele said to her about Tony being the biggest threat to win.
Sarah apparently thinks that she and Tony will be on equal footing at FTC and that she can argue that they decided together on who would go each week. She's completely forgetting, though, that Tony pulled off the Sophie blindside all on his own. He is perceived to be running the game because he IS running the game. She is just a loyal sidekick. If Sarah wanted to win the game, the Sophie blindside should have alerted her to what a threat Tony is and she should have taken action. I'm just stunned that Sarah didnt heed Michele's warning at all.
Completely agree! Here's what I'm thinking that could light a fire in her...
Whoever the person is that returns from EoE, if that person will tell her that Tony is running the game and now she has some jury insight and knows how the EoE players were thinking.
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2 minutes ago, TVFan1 said:
Why is Ben and Tony still in this game??? I want them gone.
Go Michele! At the start of this season I've been Team Michele, and hoping she wins it all. She's so close. She used her 50/50 coin on herself instead of Jeremy, which was smart otherwise she would have tied with Ben. Then when her back was up against the wall and on the bottom, she wins immunity when she needed it the most. I was so glad when she won that immunity. I'm rooting for her to win so much. I love her and her gameplay. I hope you win it Michele. You deserve it.
So am I because she's the only one making sense.
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51 minutes ago, Maggie Mae said:
Nick is an idiot. Ben needs to go. Denise is too full of her supposed awesomeness. Tony is still crazy. Sarah is stupid for not getting Tony out since she cannot win against him and payback is a bitch. Michele is getting prettier as the days go by and yes she is the underdog at this point. Who doesn't love an underdog. Go Michele....at least until Natalie comes back (fingers crossed)
I don't understand why both Sarah and Ben believe they can win over Tony. I would love to know.
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1) Nick is a fucking idiot. It's a great strategy to vote with the person that knows you lied to them about discussing voting them out.
Its not like he lied and Tony guessed that he lied. Nick outright admitted to the lie after being such a bad liar.
2) Why does it take playing from the bottom to make sense? Thank you Michele for making sense. I don't know why Sara and Ben believe that if they go to the end with Tony, they'll win. They haven't played the game, they rode the wave.
31 minutes ago, princelina said:Nonsense. Jeremy also hated Ben. Sometimes people just don't get along.
It was pretty one-sided when it started. Ben hated Jeremy and Jeremy tried to talk to Ben and see if Ben would work with him... and Ben wasn't havin' it.
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1) Aneesa is a whole mood this season. Loving it!
2) I'm just gonna put it out there. Nelson is never winning 1st place. He's terrible at the politics. He will never build an alliance that can take him to the end. Every season he's in, he's gonna get treated like a rookie. He's going into elimination every season he's on (specifically, the seasons where it isn't required to go into one).
3) I think Nany made a good TV move to put Jenna into the tribunal. Everyone was circling Jenna like scavengers. They have to fight each other over the scraps. Instead of going the predictable way of everyone voting for Jenna and then begging to go in against her, they have to scramble to find another easy target, who just might be Kailiah.
4) I really hate that the eliminations aren't at the end of the episodes. I don't like this format. I imagine that's going to continue for the rest of the season.
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2 hours ago, skybolt said:
I keep seeing posts asking why the remaining survivors don't just band together and vote out Tony. I think the main reason is that unlike Kim, Tony is actually putting in the effort to help other Survivors with their games (even if it's mostly for his own gain). Kim has always had great intuition, but instead of just telling others that Tony is a big threat, she should've been trying to convince everyone how keeping her could benefit their game. In contrast, Tony has literally saved Jeremy from being voted out twice, while keeping his 50/50 advantage. He also pulled Nick into the majority alliance after he was clearly on the outs after the Wendell and Adam vote outs. He shares everything with Sarah and was willing to use an idol for her, even though he knew the vote was between Jeremy and Kim. I don't know how, but he's convinced Ben that he's a big threat and needs a meat shield. Also, Ben rubs people the wrong way, but Tony has managed to be his best friend out there. He's also bribing players with fire tokens. It's like there are 6 Tony's out there catering to each player's needs 24/7.
Agreed! In addition, as great of an intuition that Kim had, she sucked at rallying the troops. She couldn't properly convey the vision she had of Tony, the guy who is making big moves, leading blindsides and winning challenges. She couldn't lay out the question of "knowing what you know as of right now, if we had the final TC right now and you're on jury, would you vote for Tony to win the $1 million? If yes, then he needs to go. Can you see others also voting for him? If yes, then he needs to go." Assume everyone doesn't know what you know. Assume everyone is clueless. Paint an extremely detailed picture for them.
The only person that seemed even slightly convinced was Nick. As of this episode, the only person that seems to understands that Tony needs to go is Nick. Nick mentioned his final 3. Nick knows he can't take Tony to the final 3. The question now is what will he do with this realization.
Lastly, just a few notes...
Tony literally paying for Ben's attention was hilarious.
By way of saving Jeremy in the Sophie blindside, Tony probably saved Michele as she probably would have been the easiest vote after Jeremy was gone.
Just a thought, Ben may be playing us all and using Tony as a shield.
1 hour ago, Daisy said:someone got pulled off the show because he was constipated? sheesh.
The old guy (forgot him name) back on Michele's winning season.
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1 hour ago, GussieK said:
Who was wielding the bat at the end? Wendy? I really couldn't tell.
Taylor... Taylor's friend/employee (forgetting her name at the moment) gave them a pass or something to a rage room, a place where people can go to smash and break stuff just to release pent up rage.
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42 minutes ago, CrazyDog said:
Wes...lol. Yes, he's an arrogant dude but I will always have some respect for him having some brains and building up a solid career outside of the show. He plays his character well.
One thing about Wes... you notice that unlike everyone else that goes into the tribunal interrogation, Wes has gone into interrogation twice (I think) and came out giving up absolutely nothing. They haven’t gotten any intel from him, he hasn’t thrown anyone under the bus, and he hasn’t offered any favors.
Everyone else is like “if you don’t say my name, I won’t say yours down the line” or “I don’t think I should go in but this person should go in because...” or “you should throw me in against this person because I’m clearly coming back and I’ll do this for you.”
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Why on earth would they stop airing those? Those were more entertaining than the episode where there's regular competition.
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3 minutes ago, Cornhusker12 said:
Absolutely! I get why people are annoyed by Tony's constant frantic energy but I happen to love it and think he's hilarious to watch. He's never mean spirited, he's become pretty self aware, he's always laughing about his own craziness, and more than anything he's providing life to this season in a much-needed way! I'm a huge fan of his constantly spinning wheels haha.
I love it! Tony reminds me of Wile E Coyote and the Road Runner, but switches roles often. When he running around all over the place, Road Runner, and when he's snooping and up in his tree shack, Wile E Coyote.
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13 hours ago, falltime said:
Hypothetically speaking, if Jay can't continue because of injury then Rogan won't get a skull, right?
That could be the case. I'm thinking back to Vendettas when Nelson and Darrell went head to head in the elimination and it was a draw. Nelson doesn't go home but doesn't get the winner's prize, a grenade, because he didn't win.
So I'm leaning toward Rogan not getting a red skull, because in such a case, he doesn't actually win.
S40.E13: The Penultimate Step of War
in Survivor
So Tony heard Denise’s conversation with Ben and Sarah at the water well about a Final 3 without Tony.
As far as we saw, Ben and Sarah didn’t tell Tony about that conversation. I’m wondering does that make Tony worry a little about that.