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  1. 21 minutes ago, anonymiss said:

    I was very annoyed w/ Rachel but I was not outraged with UnREAL because I think they are in on our feelings of outrage. They wanted and expected to provoke that and I believe they know who the real victims are. I think in even taking on this issue, they would not be using it to further the plot of "poor Rachel" but of "you-have-gone-too-far Rachel." That's why she committed herself. I'm withholding judgement for the show because I think they wanted to end on a cliffhanger and that is the only reason they left Darius and Romeo's aftermath out of this episode.

    I have to disagree -- I don't think UNreal is in on my feelings of outrage when they decided to make the shooting of an unarmed black man and the injury of another all about a white woman who set the entire thing up.  And attempted to get me to pity her because she was in a psych ward and was taken away by "evil mommy."

    Yes, poor Rachel who voluntarily punishes herself because she feels so bad....what a hero!  The idea that commitment is some sort of punishment for her, is laughable to me.  When two men fight for their lives over her action and the only punishment she gets is the one she decides she is allowed to inflict on herself.

    If Rachel felt nearly as bad as she should be feeling, she wouldn't be blaming Adam for not saving her and checking herself into a psych ward (likely to avoid having to take any responsibility for her actions).  She would be taking the longest walk off the shortest cliff.  Because if my actions ended up getting an innocent man killed, because I needed to prove something to a dude I dated a year ago I don't think I could live with myself.

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  2. 10 minutes ago, anonymiss said:

    I never said it was OK. And I don't think the show is trying to, either. I think they've always been trying to show exactly how outrageous these producer machinations can get. And here it went outrageously wrong.

    This is exactly what they are saying when the show becomes all about poor Rachel and Rachel ends up being the victim and the person we are supposed to pity and we only get maybe 30 seconds of seeing Romeo shot on the ground and Darius crying.

    You implied that because Darius signed up to rehab his image on a reality dating show that Rachel's actions were somehow reasonable and made sense in light of the fact that Darius's intent was to rehab his image and Rachel's actions will result in the rehab to Darius's image.  Or that is how it read your responses, which were that Darius signed up to rehab his image and therefore whatever Rachel did was understandable and reasonable.  As if, by signing up for a reality show to rehab his image, it made it okay for Rachel to set him up to get beaten because that would rehab his image.

    1 hour ago, anonymiss said:

    He signed up to be character redeemed from his scandals so I think that sort of videotaped injustice would galvanize the general public beyond the show's viewing audience to see him in a sympathetic heroic light.

     

    33 minutes ago, anonymiss said:

    He didn't know her extreme methods, but he did sign up for the reality dating show for the sole purpose of rehabbing his image. It's why he also was convinced to take the epidural to continue. 

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  3. 8 minutes ago, anonymiss said:

    He didn't know her extreme methods, but he did sign up for the reality dating show for the sole purpose of rehabbing his image. It's why he also was convinced to take the epidural to continue. 

    It was sickening to see her crumble into her usual self-indulgent pity-party but she is our anti-hero so the focus is on her. I hope and expect the next episode will show us Darius' and Romeo's POVs. For now, the show is showing she finally went too far in manipulating situations and exploiting people and knows it, which is why she banished herself. 

    In the sports and entertainment world, which is where Darius makes his money, I think there would be a mainstream outpouring of support for this kind of incident captured on film if it were shown as it happened. (Of course, there will always be those who will not see him as the victim, but their views are too deep-rooted to even contend with.) Rachel is mired in self-loathing and I think we are supposed to loathe her, too. I don't think the show is condoning what they did or expecting us to feel sorry for her.

    So, because he signed up for a dating show, and his intent was to rehab his image that somehow makes it okay for Rachel to set him up to get beaten and shot?  I just can't understand that reasoning at all.  Its like saying I signed up to get a chicken sandwich because I'm hungry but if I got some dirt to eat its pretty much the same thing.  That doesn't make any sort of sense to me at all, and I can't understand the mental gymnastics to try to put Rachel in the right on this.

    As a human being, and a grown adult, Darius has the right to sign up for one thing, and just get that.  HE gets to choose how he rehabs his image NOT Rachel.  Because Darius isn't a child, he can make those choices for himself.  He doesn't need Rachel as the paternalist who decides HOW he goes about achieving his goals.  He decided to rehab his image by being on a dating show, not by getting beaten down by cops and having his cousin killed.  Darius is allowed to decide if there are certain things that aren't worth rehabbing his image over.

    And very, very clearly, Rachel was not at all concerned about Darius's image, but about telling a story and doing some expose about important issues to show Adam that she isn't just about fluff TV.  The idea that she somehow called Darius, and got him beaten and his cousin shot out of some sort of concern for him doesn't make any sort of sense.

    When Faith's story line was explored it was about Faith.  But when Darius gets shot and his cousin gets killed it has to be all about poor whittle Wachel?  Really?  And that poor whittle Wachel is "banishing herself" and its supposed to be enough punishment for her is laughable and just gross.

    Again, whether the outpouring of support is worth the life of his cousin and the cost of his career and health is a decision DARIUS gets to make, not some entitled liberal white woman.

    We are clearly not supposed to "loathe" Rachel since the entire set up was that poor whittle Wachel finally "loses it" and goes to a psych ward and THAT somehow is the real tragedy (as evidenced by the final scene of her mother petting her hair and her taking drugs).  "Oh noes poor whittle Wachel has to take the meds she has been fighting against from her evil mommy."  

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  4. 1 hour ago, anonymiss said:

    He signed up to be character redeemed from his scandals so I think that sort of videotaped injustice would galvanize the general public beyond the show's viewing audience to see him in a sympathetic heroic light.

    No, he signed up for a reality dating show.  He didn't sign up to be part of an agenda he CLEARLY didn't want to be a part of.  He didn't sign up to be beaten for Rachel's white fix-it-all paternalistic brand of liberalism.

    As for galvanizaing the audience, as someone pointed out above, even people on IMDB are blaming Darius and Romeo.  Which almost always happens in police involved shootings or beatings no matter how much evidence there is.

    Do you really think he signed up to have his cousin shot and to have his career ended with a police beating?  How is he a hero in any of this?  He is a victim....of Rachel, of the police, of Coleman.

    Oh, but I forgot, we're supposed to be worried about whittle Wachel's feelings.

     

    3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

    I was just coming over here to say the exact same thing! Darius was supposed to be rehabilitating his image! Rachel sold him on this idea. What the hell was she even thinking--how could him getting arrested for stealing a goddamn car help his image? I mean, I know no one means what they say, everyone lies, blah de blee, blah de bloo, but how could Rachel square it with him afterwards? Was she planning to throw Madison under the bus? "No Darius, believe me, I care about you and would never do that! Madison freaked out and called before anyone could stop her!" Life is not a closed set with no access to the internet though. The truth would come out really quickly. And while we're at it, how did Yael get a phone? How did she get away? How is everyone on this show suddenly just wandering off set, calling their friends?

    The one thing that strikes me about this season now, is just how messy and dumb some of Rachel's lies are.  

    She lied to Coleman about what she said to Adam.  That is such an easily discovered lie that it doesn't even make sense.  Adam had proof of it on his phone. Coleman was suspicious -- all he had to do was ask Adam.

    If Rachel is what "feminism" looks like, its pathetic, because it apparently looks like a foolish bitch willing to do anything for a man.

    Adam tells her that her show is dumb, she is willing to risk two human lives to prove to him that he is wrong.  Rachel is anything BUT a feminist.  She is on a show that routinely exploits women, has messy work place relationships with seemingly every single man she meets who is remotely attractive and is perfectly willing to let a man drag her through her career.

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  5. 3 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

    Yeah, I don't think we are necessarily supposed to be concerned for, or even about, Rachel. I mean, sure, some people are, and it is possible to be even if you think she's terrible much of the time. In terms of what we as viewers are "supposed to" do, I think "be curious" is what the creators have in mind.

    But Unreal is not a lighthearted dating show; Everlasting is (though it's clear that the Unreal characters only pretend that's what it is) but Unreal is the show that we are watching. The cops happened in "real" life, and they seized the moment to include it. This is hard to articulate--too many "levels" of realness!

    Yes, but why would anyone, even with a failed sense of morals think that the EVERLASTING viewing audience would want to see a black man get beaten on TV?  What type of TV did Rachel think she was making for her audience, something that they don't want to see?  So she can expose systemic racism....something her suitor did NOT sign up for?  But I guess as long as Whittle Wachel gets what she wants, screw the audience she is writing for, screw two black men, screw everyone else......because Whittle Wachel's feelings were hurt that Adam called her show ridiculous.

    There was a time when we had this word for white people conscripting black men to do things that they hadn't agreed to do......

     

    2 hours ago, wings707 said:

    This is intended to be dark and shocking.  We all get that.

    You can turn the death and injured black man story to a statement that says this happens, sit up and take note.  And it does.  So this episode was actually in defense and supports the 'black lives matter' crusade. How better to illustrate this than 2 innocent men from a reality show in an expensive car get shot.  Yes, Rachael called 911 and reported it stolen.  I see that as a plot device for this to happen.  And it served to also show how far (exaggerated) reality shows go to get their story (suicide).   

    Yes they stole a car but an arrest was in order, not death.  It also showed Darius reacting to his hurt back which was misunderstood as resistance.  This happens.  A man reaches for his wallet and is shot because cop thinks he is going for a gun and on it goes. 

    Before you come down on me for being insensitive or worse, this is just another way I saw this could be interpreted. I am not defending the episode or this season or anyone in production.  Just and observation. 

    I can't remember, was Rachel actually booked and arrested when she stole a car?  The same car from the set?  

    I'm sure wild eyed Rachel was probably acting 10x worse, was she brutalized?

    As far as stealing the car, and an arrest being in order -- I think an arrest is warranted if you really want your car back, larceny normally involves the intent to permanently deprive.  This.....was not that.  From the start they knew that Darius would be back with the car.  None of them wanted Darius arrested, just to get beaten up.

    This episode was a defense of "when black lives matter, because white people's feelings are hurt"......what a message

    As for "misunderstanding resistance" is that a reason to shoot someone else?  

    As for a defense that is not really a defense --  it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....its generally not a chicken.  

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  6. 33 minutes ago, MaryTylerMoore said:

    The writer claims to have written this six months ago but police shootings were happening six months ago, six years ago, sixty years ago.  Would they feature a school full of children being shot to make a point? Probably not. The utter lack of concern for what some of us are feeling is disgusting and unforgivable.

    When would that have been? Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Trayvon Martin, Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, Edmund Perry...it's a long list when would the right time have been?

    I was trying to figure out the writing timeline by the Samsung phone product placement.  

    I don't know how writing works, but I figure they would have written in the part about Quinn and the phone at the same time they were writing everything else.

    The phone has been out for quite some time already and I would think that you would want to try to coordinate a product placement with the release of the phone, but I'm not in marketing so I'm not sure.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, xaxat said:

    Rachel's actions were inexcusable, but Coleman's "Rachel, don't go in and try to defuse the situation because I am getting good footage of a volatile incident that I think may end in tragedy because of a false accusation that we set up in order to create drama for TV show." was totally loathsome.

    I wonder if those writers were totally ignored by the end of the discussion. .  . like Darius and Romeo.

    I was even more annoyed by "huh, why would I lose my job over this?" and referring to the shooting of two men as "the situation"  I was team Coleman -- no more.  Begone Google Glasses douche.

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  8. 3 minutes ago, earlbny said:

    SGS wants us all to give her a hug after last nights episode. Poor Sarah. Poor Rachel. 

    SGS has said that they had 2 black people on the writing staff and had long discussions about this season. They should have had even longer ones.

    I heard SGS talk during the UnREAL press tour and she came across just like Rachel when talking about the 1st black suitor.. 

    does she really think any of this makes her/Rachel likable?

    I suspect there was serious railroading at some point, or something was changed, because I can't see how two people of color would have thought that Rachel should somehow be a victim in all of that.

    But given the little I've read of SGS, she seems like just the sort who would.

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  9. 19 minutes ago, mattie0808 said:

    I've been hanging on by my fingernails this season, watching each episode days after it aired, and only after spoiling myself -- last year it was appointment viewing once I found it, and I didn't want ANY spoilers. So I haven't watched last night's episode, and I won't, and I won't watch the rest of the season. I can't believe this is where this show has gone so quickly. They should be &%$^-ing ASHAMED of themselves, from top to bottom. Though, hey, they really did hope it would be, like totally outdated by now! I mean, who didn't expect this country to resolve all the issues caught up with police brutality in time for the second half of UnReal Season 2? And, well, they did let a black guy yell at Rachel, so, you know, that covers that angle of a white woman setting up black men with the police! Isn't that what it's all about in the end? I mean, whether the black guys wind up dead, seriously injured, paralyzed...well, how IS poor Rachel doing!?

    Damn. I guess not all shows stay winners...

    Exactly, poor Rachel feels weally, weally bad and has to take some medication to forget about all the awful things she has done.  And mommy came to take her away....poor poor Rachel.  Shouldn't we really all just feel pity for Rachel?  She gets to take some meds and isn't facing death, like the man she set up for no reason other than to show Adam that her show isn't ridiculous fluff.

    27 minutes ago, RedInk said:

    I've been powering through this painfully shitty season, hoping things might get back on track, but this episode was my last. This ridiculous Lifetime soap opera thinks it's relevant! Capitalizing  on real-life tragedy and pretending it's making a statement. I think? Maybe it was just a callous and grossly inappropriate way to advance the story. I'm surprised there's not more blowback. 

    Out of curiosity I visited the FB page, and its a lot of "but Rachel was really trying to help!" "Poor Rachel really meant well!" and "ohhh...Adam!"

    I can't understand how the biggest thing people got out of that episode was "Adam + Rachel = hot love 4 ever!" 

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  10. 30 minutes ago, earlbny said:

    You're welcome.

    Had she listened to the fans season 2 might have actually been enjoyable.

    I strongly believe that Rachel = SGS. SGS wants us to feel bad for her. 

    This has been my biggest concern and its coming to life.  SGS sounds like a terrible human being.  I do not want to watch a show about her as an anti-hero because she sounds awful.  If this is about SGS playing victim and trying to justify whatever she has done in the world, I'm not here for that.  

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  11. So -- the only not shitty thing that could come out of this is if it bring Darius and Ruby back together.

    If there was ever an event that would make Darius get involved it would have to be this.

    I still hate Rachel, and I will be endlessly annoyed if this turns even more into what a victim she is, and how men are so in love with her for being a shitty human being.

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  12. Poor whittle Wachel.  She sets up a black man to get shot by the cops, another one to get injured and somehow she is the poor victim in all of this.  She is a fucking bitch, and I'm glad Jay read her for filth.  It is all her fault.  

    But to be fair, I was over her from the first frame of this episode.  Adam stole "her Africa?" because he had the courage to do it?  Bitch, bye.

    She is a fucking mess, and while Darius faces a paralyzing back injury, and Romeo faces death, little miss "I wanna call the cops just to see what happens" gets to take a few meds while her mommy pets her hair and gives her soothing words.

    The only bright spot is Yael possibly exposing the truth, and I only want Rachel to get exactly what she has coming to her.

     

    8 hours ago, holly4755 said:

    well I'm Still in - how could Rachael do this - she is nuts and going off the rails every day, you can see it in her male relationships all the time - but to hand her over to her mother again,that is uncalled for.  

     

    This year is hard to watch,but I admit having a laugh at the ashes in the mouth, 

    IMO, Rachel deserves much, much worse than to have a comfy bed with her mother stroking her hair.

    I don't care how mentally deficient she is, she knows right from wrong, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing and she did it anyways -- all in the hopes that someone would get hurt so she could expose some story, because she was ass-hurt that Adam called her show ridiculous.

    She basically got one man shot and another one injured over Adam calling her out for what her show is....fluff.

    At the very least, she was hoping for some sort of confrontation.....with a guy who can easily get paralyzed because of the epidural SHE encouraged him to get to remain on her shit show.  So at the very least, she set up Darius to get paralyzed.  

    But somehow the audience is supposed to feel bad for Rachel in all of this?  As she takes happy pills to make her forget all the terrible shit she has done?  While her mommy strokes her hair and Rachel gets to be in a daze?

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  13. Wow, this show is still going!

    1. What the hell kind of paternity test was that?  It looked so dog eared and tired....has no one heard of the internet, or pulling up a PDF on your phone?  I hope she doesn't lose that because it looks like her only copy

    2. Not for nothing, but what man needs to lie about having slept with a stripper/prostitute back in the day?

    3. Disgusted with Stevie -- let me tell you something, if you've been regularly supporting your child you should be FINE with a child support order because it will only order you to do what you've already been doing.  But if you've been a deadbeat, than yeah, child support is going to be an issue.  So maybe its time to buy a used Civic and an apartment -- instead of trying to front like you have so much money.  FURTHERMORE you're not a hero for not going to the courts for custody of Eva when Mimi had her sex tape out.....if you weren't paying child support you knew the court wasn't about to grant your ass custody without demanding you start paying out.  And for him to try to guilt Mimi over it?  WTF?

    4.  Tammie - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    5.  Karlie Redd...stop chasing that man!  And honestly.....at some age you're past a full body suit unless someone is following you around with Photoshop.  You, Karlie Redd....were that age 5 years ago.

    6. KK and that dog in a baby stroller.....I just don't even know what to say anymore

    7.  Chris is full of shit, that was a total break-up

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  14. 1 hour ago, Katesus7 said:

    Honestly, I think most of these people are likeable in one on one situations. It's the combination of paranoia and groupthink that turn most of them into crazy assholes. Lord of the Flies is totally a thing. I mean, basically all of them are reality show famewhores, so they start off the bat with asshole tendencies, but I still haven't seen any behavior by any of them that I truly think is abhorrent. Well, Frank. But I just can't with Frank, ever. 

    I agree, I feel like it can get very Stanford Experiment/groupthink really fast.

    I suspect if this wasn't a game, and if they weren't in this house they would likely be fine.  I would only want to hang out with a few of them in real life, but I don't think they would all be like this.  Yeah....no Frank.....no thank you.  But I have to wonder how he is surviving in the world with his behavior.

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  15. 1 hour ago, mooses said:

    James seems like the only one really bothered by the shunning this season - I shouldn't be surprised because he was the nicest one to Audrey after her breakdown also. I hope that Michelle's insistence that he be a part of that pushes him away from them instead of influences him.

    This is a hilarious, though:

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    That is sad.  Maybe I'm just not an A+ personality, but if I were her I would be dying to get out of that house. 

    I don't see what the end game is for her, is she thinking she is going to win this, because it sounds unlikely?  Does she want to get to jury....if so, why?  So she can be in the house with people who hate her and no longer have to disguise it and will probably blame her their loss in the game?

    If ANYTHING I think that would ultimately fuck with people's game.  Because I don't know what they do when that happens.  Do they just count that as the eviction for the week?  If they do, then at the very least that helps Natalie.  She has already blown up Day's game, so its not like saving Day from eviction is going to help Day win the game.  If they DON'T count that as the weekly eviction than she really screws Day over, which works for her because she is angry at Day.  And it would also push up boot orders by a week, so people ostensibly have less time to scramble.  If I were her, I would be tempted to leave the show and blow up everyone else's game....if I could.  I would then go home and hope that everyone just forgets I was ever on BB.  Or see if maybe she and Vanessa could do TAR.  I actually think that they might be an interesting combo on the race, they both evoke strong emotions.

    Tiffany has shown she can win a competition, and thats great.  I guess there is hope for her to be safe if she were to stay in the house and someone from her team win HOH.  But to me, she has already done too much, and she must, after this week, realize that she will only be a number for her "allies" and they will dump her if they don't need her.  No one responds to whatever social game she is putting out.  She can keep winning POV's, but so far she has only won one RK comp, I'm not sure if that will translate into becoming the comp master she may need to be to stay off the block.

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  16. 24 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

    Didn't we already see Taystee get out of prison, only to commit another crime and go right back?

    I forgot about that, but I believe you're right.  Now that I remember that, I remember it being so very powerful....a powerful statement about how little support these inmates get when they get back out into the world and how the prison can almost become more of a comfort for them.

    Her google search doesn't leave me with much hope for her computer skills, but she has so much intelligence and promise, IMO.

    I think she just needs to reach out to some advocacy groups before she gets released.  Had she even had access to the resources Alieda had (as half-ass as they were) I think Taystee could have made a go of it.

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  17. 3 hours ago, portfino said:

    In defense of the writers, unReal is an odd beast because the plot is basically an anthology with each new season but the characterization is more serialized. You can do a workplace drama, but this is like The West Wing if Bartlett was leader of an alternate version of America each season. The only thing tethering the show together is the Quinn/Rachel relationship which is great, but if Jesse/Walter is the model, Breaking Bad had Skyler, Saul Goodman, Gus Fring, Mike, etc. who lasted multiple seasons. I can't blame unReal for trying to build supporting characters through Rachel/Quinn's lovelife (How much drama can you get out of Everlasting hiring a new makeup artist or editor or cameraperson?), there isn't really another entry point because Everlasting contestants/suitors will be reshuffled each season.

    fair enough point, but can Rachel just start dating a nice guy that works at an accounting firm?  her local Subway sandwich shop? some dude she meets at her dentists office?  someone from a competing show?

    even though, to me, they could have explored the new showrunner without it having to be a man that has to fall in love with Rachel.....why couldn't it have been a gay man for a relationship with Jay and how that new showrunner may have pushed Jay's career instead of pushing Rachel's and how crappy that would have felt for her?  I think they could have explored some of the more legal aspects of the show, especially given that the Real World Challenge lawsuit survived summary judgment.  How do you get around attorneys on set?  Can they be the antagonists that draw Rachel/Quinn closer together?  

  18. 11 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

    She did? Meanwhile, on Paulie's end, he doesn't know if he would date her outside of the house, according to his earlier conversation with Natalie. This is sweet. I cannot wait for the end of the game, when Zakiyah asks Paulie to be her boyfriend and Paulie does a mad dash back to New Jersey. 

    Also, Michelle is comparing Tiffany to Vanessa and has been saying that she's so much like her sister. Remember, this is the "super"fan who didn't watch season 17, as she just confirmed to James. And Michelle's also whining to James that he called her mean for shunning Tiffany. Hi, Michelle. Yeah, you are mean. Get over yourself. At the same time, I do think she's really insecure and seeing as she is the youngest in the house, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt because she still hasn't fully matured. But she is also still a grown ass adult who should know that what she's doing is not a nice thing to do. 

    Michelle is the epitome of the girl who desperately wants to sit at the cool kids table.  

    There are certainly personality types that are going to be the "cool kids."  With time, if you're not the one who is destined to be a "cool kid" you grow and learn that its okay....heck, its even better because there is so much less pressure to conform or less pressure to have to be a jerk.

    My hope is that Michelle learns that it is okay to be different, nerdy and out of place and isn't using these same tactics at 40.  Because I've been around women that are 40+ and are still using the same games in an effort to be popular.  So many people that have gone on to do great things in the world were outsiders, and they could do great things because they saw the world from a different perspective.

    If my friends love me, they know that they have to love a slightly unlovable, highly opinionated nerd with an offbeat sense of humor.  

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  19. 43 minutes ago, hnygrl said:

    I mean really Tiffany. All she had to do was what Paul's been doing: Keep your mouth shut, lay low, make the HG forget about you, Hell, pull a Vanessa and take a week-long NAP for pity's sake, and Day would be gone this week.


    But noooooo...she had to go on a stupid rampage RIGHT AFTER she was saved. RIGHT AFTER. And never stopped.

    I was on her side, but not after that. She needs to go. Let's give Day couple more weeks in the house. Compared to how quickly she lost her shit last season, she's playing a pretty good game (for her). Not perfect, but pretty good for her. I just wish she'd control her temper more often than she has this week.

    Can't help myself. I'm a fan of hers....I know, I shouldn't be, but I am...I want to see her stay at least until Jury...I know she hasn't got a shot at winning, but still...

    I like Day too, I think she unfairly gets a bad rap from people.

    Very few people play a perfect game, and often, history is written by the victor.  If Derrick hadn't won his season, no one would keep calling him some strategic mastermind.

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  20. Didn't Bridgette say that her birthday wasn't a big deal?  I'm not sure if Z just figured that she would honor Bridgette's wishes, but still wanted an excuse to celebrate, or if she is calling Bridgette out on what is likely bullshit and an attempt at false humility.  

    For me, I do not particularly like my birthday and I do not want to celebrate it, and I absolutely mean it.  I would not want a birthday party or any great fuss made....I try to forget it exists and celebrate by eating some Ben and Jerry's and regretting it the next day since I'm lactose intolerant.

    Beyond close family calling me to wish me a happy birthday - I don't want a celebration, and at this point, I don't even particularly want gifts.  I can say that this past birthday my parents were on a cruise and didn't call and that hurt my feelings a little (they said they didn't have access to a phone or internet, but I think they just plain forgot, the cruise was in the US -- so I call BS)

    Thats just to say that sometimes there are people who really don't want a birthday celebration....but I suspect with Bridgette this isn't the case and she was hoping people would beg with her to celebrate her birthday and would have given her right pinky toe to be the center of attention for her birthday.

    I find it somewhat amusing that Z would turn that desire Bridgette has to be forced to be the center of the universe into a birthday party for a stuffed animal.  It really is the height of shadiness, but Bridgette shouldn't have told everyone she wasn't into celebrating her birthday if she wanted to celebrate her birthday.

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  21. 2 hours ago, Stinamaia said:

    I realized I was giving these people the power to make me angry, upset, and indignant. Why should I do that?  As far as real life I don't really care about any of them except James, Natalie, and Day.  I wish them the best.  I'll take a big step back and just look at the nominations and the vote since I'm unable to view it as just entertainment. 

    Failed BB Fan

    I couldn't agree more.  And it happens, you can get so wrapped up in these things that it gets you all riled up.  Especially some of the ideologies espoused.  And its what TPTB want, they want the controversy.  And I love my reality TV drama, but sometimes its just too much for me.  And when it becomes too much, I try (TRY) to take a step back, because ultimately, none of these people is worth raising your blood pressure over.  TV should be escapist fun, not a health hazard.  Honestly, I'll probably stop watching once Day is gone.  But, in other good news, you (and I) will have AT LEAST 3 hours a week back.  Take up a hobby, go for a hike, learn a new language.  :)

    Me...I'll probably just try to find another trashy reality show to watch, or try that new show on Netflix everyone is talking about.

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  22. 2 hours ago, earlbny said:

    tvwatcher says:

    July 18, 2016 at 8:09 AM

    I know it won’t happen but I would love it if Rachel, Coleman and Adam ran off and made a spin off show and left everyone else in the dust. As much as I find Coleman boring with zero chemistry I would not mind if Rachel stayed with him to just to piss off Quinn. On a serious note I hate stupid love tangles. I vaguely remember reading an article where Shiri said one of the things she loved about UnREAL was that she “got to play a woman who was not someones girlfriend or in a love triangle”. I am so bored with the cheesy soapy Lifetime love triangle. I don’t need a love triangle or a boyfriend for Rachel. I want to see her manipulating the contestants. I want her to get her life in order and write that book. Regardless I am still going to watch this show because Shiri gives one of the best performance on TV despite not getting nominated for an Emmy. She got snubbed. One other thing. I bet by the end of the season Rachel finds out she’s pregnant and next season is spent on the Maury show finding out who the father of the baby is.

    This person said it well, as much as Rachel is supposed to be some ardent feminist her entire world is shaped by her relationships with men.

    It undercuts Rachel's intelligence for her to get romantically involved with men in the workplace yet again, it undercuts the viewer's intelligence that all these rich/powerful/amazing looking men want to get involved with someone who sporadically showers.  I get that personality is important, but come on now.  It annoys me that the show will basically have them step in as her white knight saving her from everything.  Rachel can, and should save herself.  Not have to depend on Coleman to get her out of trouble, or sweep it under the rug.  Any person with two brain cells in Rachel's position would have enough intelligence to realize that another workplace romance is a terrible idea and wouldn't jump into another one.  

    In the season of Everlasting BEFORE season 1 of UNreal Rachel ended up running off in a car, in no small part due to the stress of the relationship she had in the workplace.  In Season 1, we saw Rachel suffer the fallout of that relationship with Jeremy (everyone seeing the embarrassing video), the passive aggressive weird relationship with Jeremy, and suffer again with Adam, and again when Jeremy called her out in front of everyone on set.  In season 2, we see Rachel again having to deal with the fallout from the relationship with Jeremy in that she can't just outright fire him for fear of a sexual harassment suit, we see Rachel getting treated like shit by Jeremy and having to pretty much take it until he hits her.  This would be a good indication that its time to take a break from relationships, and its REALLY time to take a break from workplace relationships.  Instead, Rachel hops right into one with Coleman.  And is perfectly fine with him using his position as her boss to protect her interests.

    At least with Adam, Rachel was the power player, but with Coleman -- she isn't.

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