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2 hours ago, Sakura12 said:
I continue to love that this show mixes up the pairings. John and Ray were fun. It seems Constantine and Charlie will be learning the same lesson by hanging out with the rest of the misfits. I loved her and Mick commiserating over doing time. Mick trusts his team. Although we never heard Sara say she wouldn't put Charlie back in a cage.
I appreciate that about Mick. When Charlie started trying to get to Mick, I found myself thinking "you're barking up the wrong tree". Though their bonding did get him to release her, it also got her to come around on the Legends, forming the foundations of trust. I really liked that. Though, yes I did note that Sara didn't promise anything. I'm hoping that comes into play in needing her to be in a cage as bait type scenario, and not sending her to hell.
1 hour ago, Maelstrom said:I find it interesting watching Mick be the first to bond with cynical new Legends, as he did with Zari in her first episode. Looking forward to seeing them finally capitalize on Dominic and Maisie’s chemistry whether or not ends up being romantic or platonic. I have to say by the end of the ep I only see Charlie when I watch her now, and have stopped thinking of her as just an Amaya lookalike. Love her new punk look.
Poor Nora, being stuck as eye candy at a Ren Faire is probably a level of hell just as awful as being host to Mallus. Can’t wait to see where her story goes from here - this show does a good growth/redemption arc so it should be fun.
1He's only bonded with the female cynical Legends though, he still distrusts Constantine who is as cynical as one can be.
I'll respond to the Nora bit below.2 hours ago, tennisgurl said:Looks like Constantine might be out of the action last week, so that will bring Nora back into the action. Nora, who is currently lying low at a ren fair, as a witch...a lusty one! I am interested to see what a Nora/Ray pairing would really be like. Would she become better, as we saw earlier, or would some of her darkness rub off on him? Maybe some of both?
I'm going to admit, I haven't watched last season in full. I've seen big chunks, but none of it had to do with Nora, so I haven't seen her be super evil or whatever. I'm just going on tonight's peek at her, and her innocent/confused response to the guy calling her a lusty wench/witch is the side of her I think that Ray sees in her. It was also very reminiscent of Ray to me. I find it hard picturing Ray having darkness rub off on him, he's experienced some terrible things and he's still the way he is. However, I do think he's going to be taught some things, but I'm thinking it's going to be Constantine that can't be saved the way Ray would want, not Nora.
Loved Toby and his baseball confusion and end scene. Also liked seeing Ray and Sara's influence on the kids.
I also appreciated that defeating the baddie this week was physically a little harder for Ava and Sara because they were in kid bodies and not their full strength.
I was a little surprised they were going to have Ava and Sara kiss as kids, but then the lights started and I was like "yeah, that makes more sense".-
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2 hours ago, UNOSEZ said:
Lizzie is the top spot for me.. But no. 2 is MG cuz GE seems like a good person without being too goody goody... RAF is in a tie for third with Hope.. But both of them are downgraded in my eyes because they seem enamored with Landon... Who has yet to show me anything worth caring about in a positive light and already shown more than a little to view negatively... Penelope and Prob Kaleb won't be featured as much so while interesting and potential foils they may only pop up ever so often.. Josie is ok.. But she comes off as a martyr/pushover... But Landon so far is the worst... That letter he wrote to hope was arrrgh.. Like 390 words to show you I have a soul.. Now plz sleep with me.. Hes treated RAF oddly... Naw he can't be my lead male..
I saw you wrote this on tvline too. I'm curious if you watched the episode of The Originals that Landon was introduced in. So far Landon has shown typical signs of an abused foster kid. Alaric wasn't really helpful or realistic in regards to how he dealt with Landon's predicament. Nothing about Landon's behaviour has shown him trying to get into Hope's pants in some creepy or even usual teen boy awkward way. His behaviour with Raphael was reasonable, he tried to put Raphael's well being first in the premiere by leaving without a fuss. In this episode when he saw the note his explanation of "freezing" makes sense, and after seeing Hope he was shaken into moving.
Plus as a viewer the explanation he gave about the knife in terms of everything else that's been going on with "things that aren't supposed to be real" happening, also makes sense. That knife clearly is calling out to certain types of supernatural beings. Landon and his lack of being able to be compelled means he's likely more than human, and with the upbringing he's had, there's a slim chance he's aware of it.44 minutes ago, Minneapple said:So far Lizzie is my favorite character on this show. I don't mind Josie sometimes -- I like when she called out Lizzie about throwing her under the bus -- but she really does come off as "woe is me" an awful lot. Also, poor Hope. Josie was basically like "YOU SHOULD HAVE LET HER DIE, DAD." But honestly so far the relationship between those three girls is the highlight of the show.
Landon remains super sketchy. He seems really manipulative. This may be one of those cases of the writers thinking they're writing a character one way but he's actually coming off another way.
1I don't think Josie is any more "woe is me" than Lizzie. Josie internalizes it and sure shows it in puppy dog eyes, but that's less irritating than the constant temper tantrums that Lizzie throws. I'm inclined to believe people like Lizzie more because of how much she reminds them of Caroline and the one-liners she gets (which I admit are fun).
I'm not seeing Landon's behaviour as manipulation. However, I also tend to flip between watching things from the point of view of being immersed in the story but also from that of a writer.
I'm concerned about Kaleb's vamp superiority line of thinking and wished he'd got to hear Jeremy's point to Raphael about those gifts not necessarily meaning the supernatural has the upper hand when there are hunters, etc. Plus with all these "not supposed to exist" creatures coming out of the woodwork... I'm waiting for Kaleb to be disabused of this notion real quick. Just hopefully not by way of death. Especially since that teacher seems not too long for this world now that he has the knife and Alaric said he trusts him. He was very right to demand a raise and benefits, though I don't think that'll save him.
Oh! Also yay for a mention and some explanation for Caroline's whereabouts! Recruitment. I'm still curious how that works considering some of these kids would clearly have parents still alive. I'm not sure how they'd feel safe having their kids there after the gargoyle and now with other creatures likely coming to attack the school.-
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I liked it. I'm not really convinced Landon is bad. I think the black magic they did to track him set off the knife and that he's just a supernatural type we haven't been introduced to yet, and that he's not aware of it either. As noted, we've already seen Hope be duped by a guy she likes, I think and want this to be something different. I'd like to see Hope's arc this season be to accept that things aren't so easy as "don't care about people and they won't die". I do find it funny that she's into curly haired guys with strong bone structure. I wonder if we'll ever see Roman again.
I'm kind of curious of what the deal with the twin's (Jo's) ex is. I also like that there's a parental presence on this show and it's not an antagonistic relationship. I want to know what the explanation for where Caroline is though and what the twins think of their parent's history, relationship/friendship.
Also curious, how do the vampire students work... as in, when do they graduate and how recently have they been turned? How old is MG? The exposition/joke of Alaric relating to Milton wanting to be called MG made me roll my eyes and chuckle.-
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On 10/16/2018 at 10:57 AM, SmallScreenDiva said:
That's where I've seen him. He looked really familiar. (I also thought maybe he was one of the cast of the Hugh Jackman circus movie.)
He was Lurch in The New Addams Family (another show filmed in Canada way back when).
57 minutes ago, Kuu-uurija said:I liked young Will's actor a lot, he was very good at conveying resentment, love, loss and confusion at the same time. He has come a long way. I am sorry to see him go.
I don't trust Oliver's new little friend, at least not yet. He was way too surprised that Oliver didn't defend him - almost like he didn't expect to get beaten up. It would be logical to assume that fraternizing with Oliver would cost him as Oliver was clearly an outcast there. Honestly, it seemed that the guard that woke Oliver up was more sincere than he was. He didn't seem to be purposefully cruel in the end. And he broke up the first fight. I am hoping he will be an ally.
Can somebody tell me what Oliver said to Felicity when she said she tried but couldn't protect William and what it feels like not being able to protect your family. When he said he had lived with this feeling every second he stepped in prison. Felicity, don't doubt that? Because it sounded like "don't tempt that" (English is not my first language, sorry, and I have no CC.)
2I don't think William is going to be gone for long, the Diaz situation is only temporary.
Oliver's new prison friend's name is Stanley. The surprise that Oliver didn't defend him is because he's a Green Arrow fanboy who didn't think his hero would turn his back on someone who needed help. Consider how crushed he was to think his hero was a coward and there might be no hope/justice. Oliver was an outcast because he put a lot of those people in there. The only ones that decided to pick a fight with him only did it as a group and once reminded of how lethal he is tried to "persuade" him to join them.
The guard seems to be too ambiguous right now to me. However, I think he'll have a purpose, he was onscreen too much not to. I wonder whether he'll gain Oliver's trust to either help him, die, or betray him. I mean the guard warned him not to be a hero, but I can't tell yet if that was for Oliver's own good or to keep the status quo because he's involved with whatever racketeering is going on in the prison.
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6 hours ago, Trisha said:
I had lots of concerns that Roy returning would mean that he left Thea right after they reunited, but I guess him being in the future solves that. Still, if this means he doesn’t interact with the rest of the team in the present, that feels like a waste.
The prison scenes were better than I expected, but certainly not enough that I want to watch them for multiple episodes. Especially if this is the only Olicity scene we’re going to get when he’s in there. And if the totally reprehensible thing Oliver does that Stephen Amell was touting in interviews was just that he let Stan get beat up, then he’s forgetting the season we saw him skin a man alive.
I think he will be interacting with some of the cast, just future versions of them. Well, the ones that are still alive at least. There will likely be someone who doesn't survive.
As for the prison scenes, I liked them. I am aware though that I don't watch tv like a normal person. The guy that Oliver left to get beaten is played by Brendan Fletcher who I've been happy to see pop up in many different shows through the years (since his runs in a couple of my favourite Canadian shows I watched growing up). I'm used to him playing at dick/bully/creep, so it's interesting to see him playing a good guy in a bad situation.SpoilerHe is supposed to be a voice of hope for Oliver in prison. According to the interview debrief of the premiere here .
So I'm interested in seeing this prison plotline. As nice as it is to see Oliver interact with people he cares about, seeing the list of who he cares about grow is also nice. Especially when it's an actor I like. It actually hurt my heart more to see Stanley consider his hero is a coward, than the Olicity scene which as emotional as that is, it's kind of the norm.
6 hours ago, Angel12d said:It's sad but I also feel like it's the right thing to do for now. I just hope he's not left there for too long because it might foster some bitterness but we'll see.
That's the thing about a flash forward, we see that William seems hopeful or at least not angry. How he interacts with couple people we see him with, he seems pretty well adjusted actually, considering the type of stuff he's bound to have had to deal with in the 20 years gap.
Also, I've seen complaints of Diaz as a villain. Just from a storytelling standpoint, does anyone think Diaz is going to survive past this season, again? I don't.
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Why are people seeing the ex thing as revenge sex? I mean, I know how and to me it seems like it has more to do with projection than actually taking in what the character has been like thus far and what she said and acted like in the episode. She clearly likes him, and if anything, the sex was about her getting some closure. She was upfront about why she doesn't want another try at a relationship and was forgiving about past Kevin. Not a vindictive move. She even still likes that past Kevin despite the ghosting, as shown by her acknowledging he was too "smooth" but still had a lot to like about him. Then with the reactions during and after ending the phone call, she's clearly got butterfly's, that is also not a vindictive person.
The revenge thing is one way to read that, but it's not the message the show is emitting.
I like both her and the cop character. I hope we get to see more of them. Specifically more of the cop interacting with Amy and him not coming off like a kicked puppy. I liked that we got to see some of Amy's faults--not communicating effectively with people who are still alive and not taking her own advice about looking after herself. I'm hoping we get to see more of them as a full family unit soon.
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10 minutes ago, Camera One said:
I'm trying not to take offence at your condescending tone. I assume you are saying that the fact that no one else seemed to be affected by the sinking was a hint that the Cuthberts had unique financial difficulties?
If losing a single year's crop was enough for Matthew to mortgage the house, then there would have been pretty serious existing financial difficulties which could have shown itself before that "hint" in the episode right before the finale. Farming is unpredictable, and it is not unheard of for a year's crop to be lost due to weather or disease, and farmers wouldn't normally react the way Matthew did. What this says to me is the surprise factor drove the plot, not the characters. It felt like a typical exaggerated cliffhanger scenario that took me out of the story.
There have been plenty of shows I've watched where the main character develops in the season finale, especially in the first season. Matthew realizing he shouldn't kill himself may be character development, but it was not presented in a way that was believable to me. I liked Marilla's development, but it was too quick.
I'm tired and not filtering properly, sorry. I think you picked up on irritation to what's seemed like a weekly complaint about how the show isn't as expected (not all by the same person, I know, my apologies that it came out in a response to you).
* My first point was a response to you saying:On 5/3/2017 at 10:38 AM, Camera One said:Even the financial troubles plot was not alluded to at all.
And then mentioning the boat incident, which was the first major hint at financial troubles, last episode. I understand better now that you were also considering Matthew needing to take a mortgage out on his farm after the loss of a years' crop as abnormal. Which I agree, is strange. However, I think it could be argued that the Cuthbert's search for an orphan boy to help out on the farm could count as a suggestion to their struggle. In the first episode, Marilla mentions that Matthew had decided on getting the extra help since the winter. Based on this episode, it seems Matthew was keeping their financial problems from Marilla for awhile, so any hints at that plot thread would all be from Matthew and subtle. Plus there were clues to his heart problems, and him recognizing them, and also keeping that a secret. On top of that, his buying a bunch of unnecessary things while gathering the courage to get Anne's dress due to his shyness would be an example of ill spending. It probably was not the first time he's done that either. Marilla, mention this episode to Anne that Matthew had visited the pawn shop a few times. Matthew sold his pocket watch to get to Anne and bring her back, and the never bought the watch back, another clue.
I've stated before in another episode of the show's forum that I think the Netflix binging format is probably better suited for the show than a weekly series. It's a lot harder to get pulled out of a scene when things are fresh in one's mind. I binged episodes 1-5 on the CBC website. It pretty much felt like watching a long movie and made piecing the story together easier. Based on the format the show was intended to be watched in, I disagree with the statement that the writing is mediocre.
A lot of the questions you asked about: Marilla's reaction to Matthew's old beau, why the community is so reticent to help, who else was affected financially from the sunken ship, the Blythe farm financials.
I wonder about all these things too, though I don't think Gilbert is enough of a focus character to learn about his financials just yet. I hope season 2 will build on the community more. I feel like this show's depiction of the Avonlea community is a little closer to the show Road to Avonlea, which sugar coated things a bit less than the Anne of Green Gables movies. Though the level to which people don't seem to know one another, in a small town, in this version, is weird to me.
As for Matthew and Marilla's development this episode, I feel both were too quick. Someone mentioned it needing to take longer for Matthew to reach that point of despair and I agree. Marilla's, I could accept as just the limits of a 44 minute episode. Though thinking about it now, after Matthew's suicide scare, Marilla being more open to help makes a certain kind of sense.
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On 5/3/2017 at 10:38 AM, Camera One said:
I think the heavily off-book parts show how mediocre the writing is. The strength of the series is in the impeccable cast, the beauty of the cinematography and the LM Montgomery source material. I don't mind a more sombre look at the period, but you can't just throw in a suicide attempt out of nowhere. Even the financial troubles plot was not alluded to at all.* What was Marilla's relationship/reactions to Matthew's old girlfriend showing up? That would have been interesting to explore, but we don't even get a full conversation between them. Why is this version of Avonlea, the community, so reticent to help? What about all the other Avonlea farmers affected by the sinking?* In another thread, we were discussing the lack of clarity about their invented Gilbert situation - how was their farm managed when they were away in Alberta?
And at the end of they day, how did the thieves, pawning off Green Gables' treasures, Gilbert working at the docks, etc. develop Anne's character in any way?** This episode felt more like plot machinations rather than character exploration. Even in the last two episodes, the Diana/Anne separation was very temporary and they could have explored how that affected Anne. They're only halfway through the book***, but Anne's relationship with Gilbert and Marilla have both been fast-tracked to where they are by the end of the novel.
*The second highlighted line with "*" contradicts your first statement. The boat sinking in episode 6 was the first sign of financial problems, but that's still a hint. The fact that the guy that told Matthew about the boat was also making Matthew pay his outstanding credit that day also emphasised this.
** @SeanC made some good points. But also season finale's aren't usually about major character development, they're about closing threads and opening new ones. Matthew went through character development, in terms of understanding his own value at Green Gables beyond working the farm. Marilla too grew, in learning when to put pride aside (which was also learned by Anne).
***They're only half way through the book, but Anne's older than the book. Besides, in terms of the season, it wouldn't make sense for Anne to still be questioning her place at Green Gables after the first season. She had that scare that they might give her back due to their financial issues, she still has doubts and likely they will still flare up here and there due to the trauma of her past. But even her diving into being a Cuthbert and diving into representing them when in the city was development. She's part of a clan now, and she supports Marilla at the bank and by going to the city to sell items. By the way, Anne's realisation of what Gilbert's lost, due to her relating her fear of losing Matthew, was a huge character moment for her.
I understand feeling like certain things are brushed over, like the Diana/Anne separation, but that was explored in the Sullivan adaptation. I like that they're focusing on slightly different things here. I'm sure Anne and Gilbert will still butt heads despite their truce. I don't think the truce means anything beyond tentative friendship for now.-
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I was surprised to find the episode already available online on the CBC website the day it aired, (actually it was online before the end of the episode was even over).
I have to say, I really liked the imagery of the snowflake melting and representing Gilbert's sadness instead of actual tears. Especially considering his argument with Anne, his shortness with Matthew (at first) and then his physical fight, he is clearly exhibiting the anger stage of grief. I agree with @Miss Dee that it's nice to see Gilbert more fully rounded out beyond "love interest". I also find this new commonality of Gilbert and Anne both being orphaned interesting. I imagine because of the Blythe's status within the town and Gilbert's age that the title of "orphan" won't tarnish him socially as it does Anne. Even though Anne pointing out their new common status blew up in her face this episode, I can see it down the line bringing them together to some extent.
Also, I find it interesting that Gilbert now knows about his dad and Marilla's connection, I wonder if or when Anne will learn this.
I've grown so attached to this version of Matthew, I'm feeling anxious about the last episode of this season.-
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I binge watched up to this episode over the Easter weekend and I think the show will do better as a bingeable format a la Netflix. Reading back all the comments in each episode forum so far, there were a lot of complaints about the "essence of the character" and parts missing, which just ended up showing up in later episodes. I really think this series, especially because it is an adaption of a book series, is formatted like many "prestige" shows these days (Game of Thrones, Westworld, etc..) where each episode or even a whole season is a chapter and one can't really form a complete opinion without seeing all the pieces as a whole.
I remember more of the Sullivan adaptation than the actual books, but even then it's been over 15 years since I watched or read either. I think that helps me look at this series with somewhat fresh eyes. I watched the PBS adaptation and found myself audibly reacting in annoyance, much to my roommates' displeasure. I managed to convince him to watch this series after pointing out that Moira Walley-Beckett was also the writer of his favourite Breaking Bad episodes, which I think is also a big draw for a wider audience than what would normally be expected. It was actually my roommate that wanted to watch all the released episodes so far on the CBC website. I wanted to break on episode 4 and wait and watch 5 and 6 together due to what the episode summaries suggested for plot. I didn't want to feel like I was left hanging in regards to Anne and Diana's separation.
Speaking of Diana... she was the only part of this series for me that I was feeling iffy on, until this episode. I wasn't really feeling or seeing her side of being swept up by Anne and their bosom friendship. However, that seems to be just another example of this show's pacing, and how the binge format will be to its benefit.-
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19 hours ago, aradia22 said:
Again, maybe it's foolish but I'm kind of holding out hope that there's something I'm not seeing yet. I think someone mentioned in the last thread that it was weird that Artie and TJ both sort of adopted Pete and wanted to help him. I'm thinking there's perhaps a larger narrative we can't see yet that explains why this is happening. I mean, sure, he seems nice and his story is compelling in its way and you feel bad for him. But if this becomes a pattern, I feel like they might be trying to go for something.
1Maybe... but also comics are generally like that from what I've seen. As in, bringing someone under their wing and giving advice, while at the same time it's an ego stroke for them because now they're the one doing the mentoring. The early/late morning drunk(or not) comedy advice conversations are very accurately depicted. I know couch-crashing amongst comics who do shows in neighbouring cities is a thing, I can imagine NYC being its own special/weird ecosystem where such things happen.
The one thing I'm still trying to wrap my head around is who show Pete's peers are supposed to be and why they haven't been seen yet. That might be in tonight's episode Barking though. Because TJ apparently was very much as supportive in real life as in the show, but he's Pete's peer, and wasn't as far in his success. Same with Kumail Nanjiani and John Mulaney who are also known to have been a part of real Pete's support system. This is the one thing I feel is missing. But as it took time for the depth of the marriage breakup to happen, it's probably coming.
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6 hours ago, Skyfall said:
Actually in my area if you want to attend a school outside of what you're supposed to attend you have to pay a yearly fee (or something like that) unless you're in the same county and want to apply for a school designated as open enrollment (see: doesn't have enough students so kids in crowded schools can attend the open school and in hopes help reduce the crowdedness at others). I had a classmate that had to pay the fee because our town was on the county border and he was in the other county but his parents wanted him to the attend the school nearest to him. Crossing the border probably caused the fee, but still the waiver beat has enough real world plausibility, at least for me, to work.
Ah, thanks for answering that. I just accepted it because of my own experience of not being able to go to the school I'd planned on and in the end going to a private boarding school out of province. It was paid for in part by my parents, a scholarship, and a significant bursary. I'm Canadian though, so I'm wasn't sure if bursaries were a thing the US and if the GMW school was a private or public school.
At the same time, Boy Meets World was never big on realism in the school sense so I don't think Girl Meets World needs to meet realistic standards in that regard. However, I do wish they'd be a bit more realistic in how the characters interact with each other, just be a bit more subtle. I did appreciate that the episode didn't go the typical magical "A Christmas Carol" route with the dead ghosts and all that. -
On 12/3/2016 at 0:25 AM, KaveDweller said:
Did we see what Riley got as a gift? It would have been from Maya, right?
On 12/3/2016 at 9:02 AM, ybrik said:Also yeah I did notice there was no Riley gift.
On 12/3/2016 at 9:53 AM, Mabinogia said:That was...bizarre. I kept waiting to see what Maya got for Riley.
In regards to Riley's gift, I read the name draw scene as Maya got Lucas, so Lucas would have gotten Riley. Maya said she wouldn't even say if it was a "him or 'her hur'", which is the noise she makes to tease cowboy Lucas. Plus the camera panned to show Zay catching on immediately. I actually really liked the subtlety and teenagerishness of that moment. I actually thought it was pretty obvious Zay's gift should be an extra cookie from his grandma since they bring that up so much... but the game was pretty good too.1 hour ago, Skyfall said:One thing we've all glossed over that I didn't catch until the rewatch. We now know how Maya is in the same school as Riley. And we can fanwank Farkle into the picture because Minkus is rich and likely wanted his son in a school system with Mr Turner and Cory.
I liked that they explained that. Even though that's not really a thing according to the author of the recaps. But has it been established that the school isn't a private school? I mean, it would explain a lot if it were and that would make Maya's mom's sacrifice even bigger.
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On 5/1/2016 at 7:36 PM, Big Mother said:
The one plot point that still confounds me is Pat and Eileen's "divorce". They are still eating their meals together, they are getting along, so I don't understand why they need to divorce. You don't to be "in love" at all times to make a marriage work, and staying in a non-amazing marriage for the sake of the kids is, in my opinion, preferable than starting to search around the world for a new love. It's not like either of them have someone they're madly in love with and therefore want a divorce from their current spouse. neither of them is dating or anything. They're not even officially divorced. So they're basically still married, except Dad doesn't sleep in the bedroom with Mom? and I don't really get why. There are ways to revitalize a marriage, there is counseling, there's trial separation... instead they just decided one day, 'Okay we were never really in love, this marriage has no point, so let's get divorced but for the sake of the kids, continue doing everything a family does, except sleep in the same room." It's strange.
i think the endgame is that they won't actually get divorced. That's why the show is dragging out the 'divorce.' I dunno.
1They said in the pilot they'd been going to marriage counselling, so they did try that and it didn't work and they landed on divorce. Currently, they are separated and "getting a divorce" so they're doing the separation stage too. The decision has been portrayed as something they've taken awhile to get to.
Personally, I think it's healthier and better for their co-parenting relationship in the long run that there isn't some love interest in the wings. Plus the stress of living a lie, of not feeling like you should be with the person you're with, is a ridiculous strain to put on one's body. I like that this show portrays an undramatic separation/divorce (which yes will probably lead to them falling in love... it *is* TV after all). Shows always present the dramatic version, and friendly/respectful break ups are pretty much never shown. Doing things this way allows for less predictable storytelling and humour, which I appreciate.
I'm still laughing while watching the show. Shannon stabbing "her hand" at the breakfast table and everyone's subsequent reactions had me in stitches. Considering I work in the comedy scene and have gotten a sort of Lorne Michaels tendency to not actually laugh at things I think are funny, for me the show works. -
This show definitely has made me laugh every episode (after the pilot, which made me smile, but not emit sound). I like that both siblings are supportive of Kenny, and their relationships with one another are sweet. I also really like how the dad is portrayed as competent and loving, and that the kids feel comfortable telling him about the "Porn Bomb Emergency". I was fully expecting them to also try keeping that from him and more hijinks ensuing in typical fashion, I like the left turn in them telling him and not making a huge thing out of him finding out about the "date" at the cafe. His subtle comment about caring a gun, and it not being a threat, but a fact was hilarious. I know there are some negative Irish stereotypes, and I like that they're not present here, as far as I can tell.
Also, always nice to see Ian Gomez, him and his mention of Florida reminded me how much I miss Cougar Town.-
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Sorry Cold, you're just not her type. They were playing up Snart having a thing for Sara.
She dated Oliver before and after Nyssa, so I don't think we can rule out a Sara/Cold pairing if the writers decide to go down the route of more than friends.
Captain Cold and Heatwave not being remembered historically strongly suggests they were successful at getting away with their thieving, which should be very flattering to them. It's getting caught that makes thieves well-known! And White Canary should be pleased that her career as an assassin stayed out of historical records too. Is the show really trying to tell us the whole team is motivated by a lust for fame? Seriously?
There's a clip from The Flash of Cold saying something like "always happy to meet a fan", I think he's got a bit of an ego. Being remembered historically as thieves doesn't automatically mean they were caught. Though they were caught and spent time in jail, even if they ended up escaping, their names/nicknames are known. Having their names/nicknames known and leaving signatures, such as evidence of their respective guns could lead to a type of infamy, which is just as flattering. However, they didn't seem to care about that revelation one way or another. Neither did Sara, considering she's the one that pointed out the whole changing their futures thing to Ray. So, no, all of their motivation is not for fame. Cold wants to steal stuff, Heatwave wants to kill people, play with fire, and steal stuff, and Sara wants to be useful in a different way than she has in the past.
The show was fun, I tend to keep an eye on the plot and watch episodes here and there of Arrow and The Flash based on how much my favourite characters are in it or what the story arc is, I'll do the same here. Right now I'm most interested in seeing how Sara, Snart, and Kendra evolve. I enjoy Heatwave as comic relief but don't know that he's a fully realized character yet. Ray I liked when interacting with Felicity, so until he finds someone in the group to banter with I don't know that I care. I'm not bothered by Hawkguy, but I kind of would like to see Kendra not fall in love with him and change things up. I like Victor Garber, but I didn't watch any of the episodes of The Flash involving him so I don't have any opinions on the character yet. The others are alright until something about them sparks my interest.
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I just watched Dead Bear Walking the other day and still have this interaction popping into my mind and can't help but chuckle every time:
Gus: I'm dead serious. I don't even like bears in fables Shawn. Goldielocks was a crazy blond shorty for going up into that house in the first place.Shawn: Don't say shorty.
Gus: Shorty. *walks away*
Shawn: You're going to the bunny den aren't you?
Gus: Don't be making that your business.
Shawn: Why are you talking like that?
Gus: I'm deep in the streets Shawn.
Shawn: You're on a wooded path to nowhere!
I don't know why, the delivery of that last line tickles me.
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I liked this episode. I still haven't watched the finale from last season, so while appreciated some of the exposition, I still found it to be a bit much.
I loved the line from Watson "What's the hardest you've ever been hit?", a great way to shut down that gross chatter about heroin addicts. Plus the line was perfectly delivered and received by the actors in the scene.Indeed, near the end, when Sherlock tells Watson he is not going to prison, Joan says something along the lines of "Great. Now let's talk about the women you are not going to correspond with" (though I don't know why she would have a problem with "C").
I didn't take that line to mean she's telling him to stop corresponding with them, but more about the fact that he still is and isn't even in prison.
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I mean- Tony is seriously perfect. Like, beyond perfect. Breaking them up (and going for Laura/Jake redux) might actually make me stop watching.
I just don't want Tony to go...but if he does, please let it be because Laura decides she is just not ready yet. Not because she is considering Jake.
Absolutely agree with everything you said, but these two things specifically I want to expand on. First the latter comment, if that's what they plan on doing I 100% hope it's for that reason rather than anything else. Worst case scenario would be that it's because of something Tony did (in a bad way) that leads her back to Jake.
Speaking of Tony doing something bad, you're right about the "beyond perfect"-ness of Tony now, but he didn't start that way. When we met him he had a bit of a temper, his first lines were yelled at Laura. This last episode Laura pointed out how perfect/great Tony is, and he's done everything well and maturely, but I hope they do explore him getting frustrated, if anything, about Jake manipulating Laura's feelings. Also, they showed Tony as vulnerable this episode, when he told her to taste the food he brought, so I though he'd look more disappointed at her "I've never considered introducing you to the boys" outburst. Instead, he kind of didn't react, the actor is good, so I figure the lack of reaction was on purpose, but I am curious what will get Tony to react the way he did when we first met him.
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Glad I'm not the only one who isn't interested in seeing Laura and Jake get back together. I just adore Tony, and she needs to stick with him. Let Jake ride off into the sunset with his girlfriend.
Speaking of his girlfriend, how crappy for her. Also he *just* introduced her to the boys as his serious girlfriend, but he's still sniffing around his ex. I like him enough as the Captain and his interactions with the others, but he really is a shit romantic partner.
ps. Where was she during all this hospital stuff?
Why, Laura. Why? Why do you still have feelings for Jake? The show made it very clear throughout the entire season that Laura maintained a cordial relationship with Jake because he was her boss and her children's father, but she was completely over him. Laura never seemed confused about her feelings, except for a recent episode when she got upset about Jake bringing the FBI lady around the boys. But I can assume that was put in as build-up for this episode.
I can understand her confused feelings in the sense that she probably didn't stop loving Jake just because he's a womanizing jerk. The hurt from his betrayal by cheating would help her bury her feelings, but I don't think she has really dealt with what happens in this sort of situation where his life is at stake. She didn't straight out say she was in love with him, she said still loves him a "little". He's the father of her children and this is a traumatic event, it shook things loose. Plus he's actively emotionally manipulating her. I like that she was upfront with Tony right away, and an adult about it though. I really hope they go with the novel idea (for TV) of not going back. If that's what the writers want though, Jake has a long way to go to measure up to Tony (or bringing Tony down, which I hope they don't do).
So did the guy who shot Jake intend to shoot someone? I guess he knew that the only two other people there wouldn't report him because then they wouldn't get the other $10,000, and I guess he knew there was no security camera. So was he just threatening them and didn't see Jake until Jake popped up to be a hero and then, what, he decides to shoot him instead of running? Criminals aren't very good at weighing costs and benefits of choices, I guess.
I was confused by this too. I figure he was startled by the girlfriend coming in, and then again when a cop popped out of nowhere. But why was he staging a robbery anyways when he was trying to intimidate the guy into doing something for him? Meh.
--I did like the hospital scene when the babysitter kept the kids in check, even as they sat next to their (possibly) dying father.
Ha! Yes! I also liked that they managed to tie in a call back to Senor Softie, the ice cream truck Laura hates. That was what the nanny was threatening to take away if they didn't behave.
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Awe Tony. I thought this might be the end of him and Laura, but I'm glad there's still a chance that he'll be back. Although if what I've read about the renewal is right, he might not be. Apparently they're retooling the show and it's supposed to focus more on the cases rather than Laura's home life, which I think would be a mistake. I like this show for the cast of characters, not the crime solving, that's just how the characters show off their badassness.
Some of this episode I... "cringed" is too harsh a word, but I don't know what else I'd use... at, such as all the times Laura referred to Jake as her husband and Soto's department romance question timing. But overall I enjoyed this episode, despite figuring Jake would be fine, as that'd make the show too dramatic this soon in its run.-
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I guess they left themselves some wiggle room. If I saw that photograph, my first thought would be, "Wow, the guy in this old photo looks just like Henry. Must be his grandfather!" not "Wow, the guy in this old photo looks just like Henry. He must be immortal!" They could still have Henry lie his way out of it, I guess.
It's not just that though, there have been signs that something's been up with Henry for while now from Jo's point of view. He's an expert in all things historical, "like he was there", his general demeanour and lack of knowledge of things someone who is actually the age he looks would know. Besides all that, there is also his investment in Abe's mother, she recognized but didn't understand what was going on with him. Also that wasn't the first time his watch has appeared somewhere is shouldn't be.
Awe, if this is the end I'm going to miss Abe's particular brand of mischief. He has quite a young soul. I wonder if that characterization was something that was decided or just intuitive. To be his age and living with a parent, I can only imagine how that would keep one young. The tendency to revert back to childlike behaviour in the presence of a parent is hard to fight. The whole scene between Abe and Henry in the basement, when Abe's been sitting as lookout, is made of win.
Abe's: "I had a few bathroom breaks, and then I had lunch with Myron. But other than that I've been a hawk." and the "you're emoting Henry. Continue." Had me burst out laughing.
I think I need to sleep on it, maybe watch it again and then come back and comment on the episode further. I really *really* hope this isn't the end. I like all these characters, and not just the main ones. If this isn't the end I really wonder how they're going to get out of that conclusion,
with Adam
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Is Major supposed to be stupid, or is he just out of his depth? Because the car thing was stupid, and I'd actually prefer to think he's stupid instead of thinking he deliberately pulled a dick move like putting someone on speaker with other people in the room and not telling them.
I think it's the latter. Major started to warn Clive by saying his name, but Clive talked over him. Major even said, he was about to tell him. It was still a dick move though, who starts a conversation on speakerphone? But also, how is it possible to not hear that you're on speaker? I can hear the difference every time my parents do it when I call home. There's a tin quality to the sound that occurs. Though Clive was distracted, so I guess that understandable.
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Ditto to everything you said thuganomics85. Though I think that the Captain figured it out for himself, he is a police Captain after all. He didn't notice anything strange while he was human, but once the possibility of Zombie came into his life, just looking at Liv it seems kinda obvious. Even Lowell figured it out quickly.
What I'm confused about is how zombie rat got into the other cages and if we know based on what the show has shown us which rat it was that turned into a zombie. I mean, it's not that zombies get smarter, they get dumber the longer they go without brains, so zombie rat would sooner start to rot, rather than figure out how to get our of his cage and into the other cages.
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in Legacies
My thought when MG was talking to Kaleb "oh my poor sweet dummy".
Very poorly thought out. Why was this decided within a single day? This school needs more teachers. I'm going to jump to the Emma thing here, she was the only adult seemingly left on campus. I doubt that's the case, but still. Also based on how this school works as shown thus far, Emma probably knew about the werewolf fight in the gym but it's likely considered a pack matter. What I don't get is why the alpha is a student and not a teacher, though I guess that'd be problematic in some ways too.
I thought it was weird that she didn't stay, but also, she didn't really need to hear their reasons for casting whatever vote they did. What mattered is that any action was made immediately, because the council was meant to contribute their thoughts to decisions regarding the school, not make the final decision. As for the reasons, Hope didn't blame Raphael for anything, she countered Raphael's point that he'd protect Landon, by pointing out how he couldn't do that 24/7. Hope's point about it being everyone's responsibility to protect him has to do with the fact that they are all notably stronger, magical beings who can bounce back from emotional outbursts with each other, Landon can't. The problem with that point is that that is exactly what they are supposed to be learning to do so they can enter the real world with all the "weak" humans. Having Landon there would actually help with the "human element" because there are humans that know the truth about them, and that can be good and bad. They should get used to it.
Josie's point while logical seeming was also not fully informed considering Landon is not the source for all the danger, the knife is. Also, Landon's point is wanting to protect HIS family, which is Landon. So as much as Josie has a point, she's also not considering the fact that she's separating Raphael from his family through her decision.
Yeah, referring to them all as monsters was super ignorant sounding.