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I liked how they talked about wearing "high heels" and getting dressed up "all fancy" for dinner out. Plus - they really aren't used to eating at a nice restaurant are they? It almost seemed as if they didn't know what utensils to use as they ate.
And their "spa", I'm sorry - I love my sister and sisters-in-law but I wouldn't rub their feet - I think all feet (except babies' feet) are kind of ugly. And all of the talk (I'm looking at you, Anna) of marriage being six months of away? What?
I did kind of like when Joy said something about Jana hearing about "meeting a guy" for years longer than she has been hearing about it AND Jana admitting (sort of) that she is kind of tired of hearing it herself.
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Jynnan tonnix: Yeah, it used to be 7/70, and my niece who was going to turn 7 at the time was very excited, "No more booster seat!" she would say, Then about a month or so before her birthday, she said, "Nina, they changed the law! it's 8/80 now." She was so bummed. Anyway, a six year old (at the time) knew the law! Also, what my sister would say re; "bring my kid back alive" was pure kidding the sister w/out kids.
Back on topic:
It would be a shame if they were gearing up to find a match/courtship for Jana. Would she even protest? Say she didn't want it (it seems that according to speculations here that she has seemed to have declined in the past), would she now be forced to because the family needs income and she needs to put her brothers and sisters first? Or if it was one of the others (Jinger or Joy), would they be allowed to say no or would they be guilted into saying yes to courtship.
And if there is a courtship and they changed their minds? But according to Anna (I think) it's courtship with a quick slide into marriage and then BAM you're pregnant.
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Re: car seat or lack thereof - I don't have any children but even I know that where I live the law is 8/80! I have taken my nieces and nephews around since they were at least a year old and I knew that they needed a real car seat and then a booster. i would take my sister's seats OR SHE would tell me "Hey, I want my daughter/son back alive. Take the seat!"
I still feel sorry for these "adults" - I think that some of it is a clear choice NOT to know or find out stuff that might be good for them (example: read a good book!) to "We are not allowed to.." Even though there are quite a few over 18 year olds legally allowed to make their own life choices, they still relinquish their choices to their parents.
It just seems so sad to be stuck in a home without any outside interests or friends. Lack of encouragement to be independent, schooling, jobs. Despite their proclamation of how this sister/brother is my best friend, it just doesn't seem true. Most of them strike me as lonely.
Maybe I am projecting my own experiences of being able to choose to work before attending college, choosing my own major, making my own mistakes and learning from them. Having friends who sometimes seemed to understand me better than my family BUT also having a family that "let" me have outside relationships and experiences.
I think that sometimes they are just existing until their "real" life starts.
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I found it interesting that when asked Jessa said her favorite type of music is bluegrass. When did this family ever listen to any music of any kind? Also no one in the family could define hip-hop? Jinger saying "It's different." And that's it. How do they know what kind of music they like - they aren't/weren't allowed to listen to any kind that didn't mention Jesus.
Also at Jessa's lunch with the singer's wife, she said something around the lines of how it was good to see how others cultures are different. Wouldn't most people say how some things are the same? Example: A friend of mine is Japanese (I am Hispanic). We are always amazed at how there are so many similarities between us in regards to being daughters, home responsibilities, and respecting elders. Sure we talk about differences that come up organically in a conversation. But we don't actively point out differences between us.
It seems Ben has found his "calling" - again. Being a minister/preacher with an inner city missionary. WHAT??
So much fake laughing - Jessa looked uncomfortable listening to music and trying to be supportive.
Finally, Jill - clean up your kitchen!
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Okay, this is what I learned from this episode:
*Joy has been helping Sierra plan parties for five years!! So she started at 13??
*Joy enjoys baking for and with the little kids BUT she was a big ol' tomboy.
*Joy is becoming more "girl like"
*Joy considers Sierra a best friend and mentor (isn't Sierra like 30?)
*Joy is more girl like and loves shopping (according to Jessa "us girls really like to shop!") but watches the babies so she won't have to shop.
*Jessa and Sierra have become very good friends with Kristen (?) since they found out Kristen is pregnant - so very good friends for like a month??
*The reason they have men and children at baby showers is because if it was just women they would just sit in a circle and stare at each other in uncomfortable
silence - per Sierra
*Taking groceries to a poor family in Central America - food, you know, like rice and beans. They couldn't have said flour, milk, fruits and vegetables? I don't know maybe I am being too thin-skinned but I found it slightly offensive that rice and beans was the only food they could think to mention.
*Even a minute of Jim Bob and Michelle is a minute too much
Okay I 'm done - I feel better!
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Finally saw the episode and I agree with what others have said. Like....
*Jinger said "her" friends had the type of car she bought - What friends? I want names and addresses
*Anna said "check his social media" to make sure "he" is watching the kids - I thought that this family was against "worldly things - social media is as worldly as you can get!
*JD has checked out "Fellas" who have been interested in Jana? Again I want names!!
*Jinger and Jana did something on their own - along with four brothers that "tagged" along, made all the decisions, spoke for them, and took over!
I just don't get this family -
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I didn't see the episode but as others have said WTH does Jessa do all day? I too was puzzled when in the last episode she said that with a baby to take care of she can't stay focused on 5 hour projects. When have any of these people ever done a 5 hour project (maybe when they built the cars in the living room?)?
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*I thought that the "job" of the women in this cult was to tend to the home? So shouldn't they know how to change a bed, sweep, mop, dust, organize things, do laundry, cook??
*Weren't the girls all supposed to be learning through their "jurisdictions" how to do all of that?
*Wasn't it the mother's job to make sure that the daughters were prepped and ready for the man who would take over their lives - I mean marry them?
As others have said, I hate doing housework BUT I am an adult with my own home that I happen to like clean (because you never know who might stop by - so my mother used to say). Granted it is probably not hospital clean, but it is reasonably neat. AND if someone is coming over (like say a camera crew who is going to show my home to at least a million people) - you bet that I am going to make sure EVERYTHING looks good.
Finally, and it cannot be said enough, WTH do these people do all freaking day?? They don't work, volunteer, go to school, learn, travel, read, nothing!
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Aren't those boys a little too old to be acting like this? I don't mean to be a cranky adult but it is not cute or funny. As a parent I would be so upset that a child of mine did this! Put aside that they could have been hurt, but they could have hurt someone else. I just don't find this kind of stuff amusing.
And isn't one of them the boy who put in a video camera in the industrial dish washer to see what happens inside of it? If they don't respect their own property (nor do they seem to be expected to), they sure aren't expected to respect anything that belongs to anyone else.Sorry didn't mean to rant - it's just that this kind of behavior really bothers me.
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Whoa! I can't believe I actually sat through this (and I brought home stuff from work to finish!)
Just some random thoughts:
*Why does Jessa voice always sound soooo smug? Why does she always have that (seemingly fake) smile?
*Fall Feast??? Really - they can't call it Thanksgiving? Or is that just left over from the "we do things just a little bit different"?
*Everything that they were bringing to their "Fall Feast" was pre-made. So much so that they (the "older" girls) commented on it. But of course it didn't dissuade them from still doing the pre-made. Plus the face Joy (?) made when they said to make mashed potatoes using real potatoes!
*One of them, can't remember which one, actually said "Thanksgiving" instead of Fall Feast.
*The over complimenting of each girl --- so and so is just such a good cook. She just throws this and this, it's great.
*Oh, my god! Jill can't clean up the kitchen, I mean, the dishes were clean put them in those cupboards that you said were so wonderful for storage! Plus her kitchen was better equipped than mine is! And the rest of the house - she had to know that the cameras were coming, clean up your XXXXXX house!
*When we get together for "Fall Feasting", there are between 20-25 people. Everything is from scratch (except the bread) and not that tough to handle if you manage your time right.
*Aaaannnd - I just feel so sorry for Anna but she is so desperate to hold onto the dream she had since she was 8 and Josh-uuu-ah is it. As Elsa says, "Let it go."
Well, I feel better!
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Read about Jason's pickles. It always bothers me when people decide not to use an adverb when it is appropriate ("Cucumbers did amazing") It should be amazingly. But I notice this family does this consistently when they talk and apparently when they write too! Could be one of the drawbacks about SOTDRT.
I think I noticed it because that is what my students are working on (they are second graders!)
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Regarding the piano teacher "volunteering" to help with the laundry - 12 YEARS??? TWICE A WEEK??? What did Michelle say and how many times to guilt the poor lady into "offering" her help???
My friends and I have helped friends who have been overwhelmed by crisis, work, family emergency but NOT for more than a couple of weekends.
12 YEARS???!!! Just no.
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OMG! That video of Josie was 39 seconds long - it felt like 5 minutes!
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Yes, Will sucks his thumb - but really so what? My oldest niece sucked her thumb. In fact in the middle of taking her bar exam - guess what she did for comfort and to calm her nerves? She sucked her thumb! She doesn't do it all the time - she is a grown-up! - but in times of great stress, she goes back to a habit that gave her comfort!
I also think that the majority of four year olds say "I want.." whenever anything catches their eye, they don't expect to get it! And going by the four year olds I have been around, it doesn't hinder them from saying please and thank you when appropriate (although, they have to be reminded at times)
Also so what if Jen gets paid.
Finally, I really enjoyed this episode. So many wonderful moments!
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Their hopes and dreams will remain just that - hopes and dreams! These poor girls can't see the writing on the wall yet. Without an education (a real one!), contact with the outside world, and with some autonomy they will never even get close to to their dreams (such as doctor's assistant, vet's assistant, art teacher).
Plus - Poor Jana! No view of her future. So sad!!
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I'm glad that Maya won too. Although I really couldn't wear what she designs, I think it was beautiful. I liked Zachary and Peytie's designs also. I wasn't too impressed with Samantha, it all looked the same to me. And to be honest, the dress she made was no great shakes. I have a similar one in my closet that I wear around the house during the summer.
When Cristian said that he wished he could see her work so he could pick up on the way she does the construction - I thought that was great. When was the last time we heard anyone say that about PR with adults? I would think probably when Cristian was on it!
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I enjoyed this episode!
Bill and Zoey spending time together - Zoey's language has grown so much! (I have a student who's language isn't as good as hers and he is a first grader!) Their interaction and conversation was so cute!
Regarding earpiercing: The girls in my family (maybe it's cultural) have had ears pierced as babies. Just a matter of keeping little fingers away from ears (baby mittens solved this problem!). It was not considered wrong or as "bad" - it just was done. (someone mentioned it seemed .... I'm not sure of the word they used but kind of "slutty"?) I slept with earrings on every single night since I can remember - never bothered me (nor was I traumatized by the pain, since I couldn't remember) until I was about 25, that's when I began to take them out to sleep.
Trick or treating was so sweet! Will stopping and telling Zoey to hurry - adorable! Especially when "we" know how anxious he was to get his loot! Both of them looked cute in their costumes.
ETA: I never saw anyone without pierced ears until I was in middle school. I thought everyone had pierced ears - I was shocked when I met girls (around 12/13 years old) who told me they weren't allowed to have pierced ears! I thought it was weird :)-
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I am fine with all four going to fashion week. I am glad Tim saved Zachary - he has worked hard and (in my opinion) had an off day. (His original design looked good - as someone said - I think he just got lost/overwhelmed)
I really loved Peytie and Maya's designs.
This group was just so articulate as they described how they came to their design. They seemed to have really thought about what their design was saying about them as people not just designers. They also seem more self-aware about themselves and their work. I am going to miss them - their adult counterparts could learn a lot from them - "losing" with grace, being honestly supportive of each other, and seem genuinely happy for each other.
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Man Bun (maybe he will switch to Man Braid like Jared Leto!) really put his foot in his mouth! The expression on Tom's face when M.B. said that he felt he made delicious food but had to adjust and cook to the judges tastes. Then he seemed to try to backtrack but really couldn't pull it off.
I felt bad for Kwame - why pick such a sad memory? :( I thought for sure he was gone.
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I don't think that they really know any of their children beyond saying something generic about them.
Years ago someone came up to me to ask me about a student. i remember telling them what I knew about their strengths and where they might be needing some help. As i finished my brief synopsis about the student, it occurred to me that the student wasn't even in my class! So I said, "Wait a minute. This student isn't even in my class. Why didn't you ask M.-------, this student is in room ---." The answer I got floored me. "I knew if I asked you, you would give me a clear picture, so and so doesn't really know anything about the student."
That's what I think whenever i hear these parents (and I use the term loosely) talk about their children. No real connection (so it seems to me) to any of them or any knowledge about them.
On a totally different note, on my birthday ever since I can remember, my dad signs the card "We love you. Love your mom and dad"
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Just some random thoughts:
*I have had friends swaddle their babies (and i have done it too). But when the babies were swaddled they were also held by a parent/adult and sometimes rocked or sung to. They were not left just lying there screaming.
*Derrick looks terrible - I think it is as someone upthread said - stress over everything that has happened in the past year plus a clingy wife and a domineering father-in-law.
*Jill is dumb - does she truly believe that she is a real midwife? Or is she holding onto what others in their "fundy" circle keep telling her? Does she really believe that she could be helpful to others? How? She doesn't want to do things without Derrick because according to her upbringing she cannot be trusted to be anywhere outside the house alone. Sometimes I feel such pity for her lack of education, knowledge, and self-awareness. Other times I just want to shake her/
*Do they (Derrick and Jill) really believe that they are contributing to Catholics conversion to Christianity (Catholics are Christians despite what anyone else thinks!)
Okay - I'm done.
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Wow! Her feet sure are dirty!
I hate to wear shoes around the house. But i walk outside, in the garage, in the patio and my feet don't look like that at the end of the day!
Sometimes I wonder about what really goes on in their heads!
My nieces are around Jessa's age - They have four bachelor's degrees (one has two!!) a master's degree, a master's degree in progress, and working towards a teaching credential between the three of them. They each hold down at least two jobs. One of them volunteers at an elementary school and a soup kitchen during her free time.
How do they exactly spend their time? What do they do to earn a living? How can they maintain their standard of living?
I am constantly astonished (and not in a good way) by the things that they say, profess, behave.
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Wow - I was kind of underwhelmed by this challenge. They all looked, mmm; Maybe okay??
I thought Kelly was smart to look beyond the idea that Red Carpet just meant the Oscars. Granted it is not my taste but i could see someone wear it to the Grammys or any of the music awards. Although what she makes I could never wear but to me (admittedly, fashion dyslexic) her looks are generally creative, true to herself, and seem well made (considering less then 24 hours to make stuff most of the time).
Ashley's dress was kind of cool even Cristian liked it (He said something like, "I just kind of love this"). I thought it would look good walking the "carpet". But I still think that she has an awfully lot to learn. I think she needs to be able to "roll with the punches" instead of breaking down.
Morticia's dress was just a nice dress except to her taste - all black. That appears to be the only color she uses - the flamenco dress the only exception from what I recall. Plus she kind of rubs me the wrong way. I don't like the way she offers up her opinion to and about the other designers. I really don't want her to win.
EDMOND!! What was he thinking??? I was just disappointed, words fail me.
So my two cents: Kelly for the WIN!! (Unless Edmond comes back - then I want him to win)
**I miss the Bravo days.
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According to some random article (can't remember which "magazine" - Jessa was a rebel!! because she had "boys" at her shower!
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Very random thoughts:
-Ashley, Ashley,Ashley! So disappointed!! I've wanted to like everything you make, but I just can't. To paraphrase, "There's no crying in fashion!"
-Swapnil, i am sorry you had someone that was so inarticulate but as someone said, you could have done pants and jacket!
-Candice, the girls on Hollywood Blvd. can hardly wait for you to design for them! (To me everything you design is black, leather, and tight; maybe to switch it up you could add a whip?)
-Kelly, you designed overalls (although cute) for someone who wears overalls a lot.
-Merline, I know it had problems, but I kind of like it.
-Edmond, both were nice but not together.
Carry on.
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S05.E11: State Of The Art
in Project Runway All Stars
I agree about Sam's "design". It just looked as thought he wrapped a bunch of material around a body. Other designers have painted or dyed their materials, but not in such a way that Sam did. It was not good. I also agree that if he hadn't told his "story" it would not even rated a "I think I get where you were going with this." It's as if the design wasn't real until he told his story, And I really hate how clear it was that Isaac favors him (You could see the smirk on his face when Sam's dress came out). I knew he wouldn't be eliminated.
Everyone else referenced the artwork and how they interpreted it with varying degrees of success (I thought Emily's was avant garde for her). I don't think of avant garde as just an in your face, jolt to the system, uncomfortable feeling; it could be elegant, beautiful, extreme (I remember Cristian S. and Chris' design - beautiful, elegant).